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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further
adjourned at 10:34 PM.
r Clise declared the meeting
Mayor
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MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL SESSION OF JULY 15, 1992
The City Council of the City of Port Townsend met in special
session this Fifteenth day of July 1992, at 7:00 PM in the Council
Chambers of City Hall, Mayor John M Clise presiding.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers present at Roll Call were Vern Jones, Julie
McCulloch, Norma Owsley, Robert Sokol, Sheila Westerman and Cindy
Wolpin. Also present were Planning Commission Members Ernie Baird,
Mark Welch, cindy Thayer, Lois Sherwood, Randy Maag, Bob Rickard,
Clerk-Treasurer David Grove, City Attorney Dennis McLerran, Planner
Dave Robison, and City Consultant Lisa Palazzi. Councilmember
Camfield arrived at 7:10 PM.
JOINT PUBLIC HEARING
Environmentally Sensitive Areas Ordinance. Mayor Clise explained
that there will be no action taken on the Environmentally Sensitive
Areas Ordinance this evening and that all testimony is ",ranted.
Dave Robison noted that this is draft #8 and explained the process
the draft ordinance has gone through since th~ beginning of the
year. Mr Robison explained that this ordinance comes due to the
Growth Management Act that was passed in 1990 that says that all
cities and counties within the State of Washington must designate
and protect environmentally sensitive areas and then went on to
summarize the areas: wetlands, fish and wildlife hslbi tat,
geologically hazardous areas, frequently flooded areas, and aquifer
recharge areas. Mr Robison then explained the process that: would
be required if a building site is in one of the environmEmtally
sensitive areas. Mr Robison introduced Lisa Palazzi, consultant
working with the City on the Environmentally Sensi ti ve Areas
ordinance who is a soil scientist in wetlands and stormwater
management. Mr McLerran addressed the issue of how this ordinance
fi ts wi thin the constitutional limitations regarding the regulation
and use of property. Mr McLerran discussed the difference between
taking and substantive due process and stated that this regulation,
on its face, does not have a constitutional problem.
Mayor Clise requested questions for clarification from the public
before opening the hearing for public testimony. David Wren
questioned why "extraordinary hardship" on page 7 appears to be
struck out of the document. Mr McLerran responded that after he
became involved in this, about draft 4 or 5, the language was
specifically taken out of court cases regarding reasonableness as
opposed to extraordinary hardship and that the reasonable use
exception process is in 6.4 on page 22. .
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Jim Hermanson questioned if the city is going to bear the cost of
appeals or is the landowner going to. Mr McLerran respondE~d that
the appellant is the one who bears the burden of appeal and that
there is the ability to work with staff at the administrati VI:! level
before one would get to an appeal.
Cal McCune questioned if this ordinance in any way begin to cause
some of the buildings downtown to be made safer. Mr McLerran
responded that the only area where that would come into play is if
there was a substantial renovation or remodel in which building
permits are needed under the Uniform Building Code.
Monica Mick-Hagar questioned how much it would cost to appE~al and
why is there a fee. Mr McLerran explained that there has not been
a final decision on how much an appeal would cost although an
earlier draft had a $250.00 filing fee for appeals: the reason for
a fee is that you do not want frivolous appeals in either direction
and then explained the provisions for adding on to an existing
house within an environmentally sensitive area.
Don Barr explained that he has plans to build on his property which
seems to be in an environmentally sensitive area and questioned how
soon the city would respond to make an initial investigation as to
whether he has a problem on his lot and if the appeals are from
what is found on this investigation rather than what is shown on
the map. Mr Robison responded that site inspections would be made
as soon as possible, especially if there is a permit pending and
agreed that there should be an appeal process of the sensitive area
determination and will check to be sure it is clearly spelled out
in the ordinance. Ms Palazzi confirmed that the maps are no't being
used for regulatory purposes, but purely as guidelines.
Lee Wilburn questioned if the 26% figure being used for the area of
the city wi thin the ESA includes buffers. Mr Robison responded
that the 26% figure is a little misleading because the ordinance
does not regulate shoreline areas and seismic areas in the downtown
and things of that nature and that it does not include buffer
areas. Mr Wilburn requested an estimate of what a wetland buffer
might be. Mr Robison responded that there are two options in the
wetland section and the buffers go anywhere from 25 feet for a
category 4 wetland to 150 feet for category 1 wetlands like :Kah Tai
Lagoon. Mr Wilburn stated that the minimum lot area in 7.1, page
24, should be addressed due to the differences between modern
surveys and the surveys in the older plats; and stated that the
types of bonds required on 12.8 on page 48 and 14.0, 3.B on page 49
are unavailable.
Kay Goodhue requested clarification of D and D.3 page 46, density
transfers and is density credit optional. Mr Robison responded
that is one area of the ordinance that still needs some work and it
is intended allow for clustering. The questions really can not be
answered until this section is clarified.
Kathryn Jenks questioned if page 18, 5.4 F sub 1 means that 250
square feet of impervious surface requires a special report but
everything else on a remodel does not and requested that the
aggregate of 250 square feet be inserted as in 5.2 C page 15. Mr
McLerran clarified that the intention for the 5.4 F.1 language is
that the 250 square feet be a threshold: for additions undler that
amount of square footage there would not be a special report
required.
shirley Rudolph questioned if the process is still required if
property is surrounded by the green area on the map. Mr MGLerran
responded that the State Department of Community Development
guidelines for adoption of cri tical areas interim regulations
strongly recommend that the maps be performance based, meaning that
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because the accuracy of the available data is rough, there will be
questions asked relating environmentally sensitive areas whether
the property is shown on the map or not.
David Wren questioned what constitutes an aquifer recharge area.
Mr Robison responded that an aquifer recharge area is a subsurface
area that collects and stores groundwater. The intent of the
Growth Management Act and the ordinance is to regulate the uses
that have a potential to contaminate the aquifer. Ms Palazzi
stated that the attempt was made with the maps to locate areas that
are expected to be more hazardous in terms of more likely to result
in contamination, areas that are extremely porous where the water
is readily accepted into the soil surface and into the underlying
geologic layers.
steve Hayden questioned if this or any other ordinances regulate
activities that threaten these sensitive areas. Mr Robison
responded that there is a performance standard approach to try to
protect those areas from adverse uses and impacts. The ordinance
really looks at alteration and disturbance of sensitive areas and
not the use of the areas unless it has the potential for adverse
impacts through that alteration or disturbance.
Bob Gibson questioned if the city is going to compensate owners of
homes in these sensitive areas for loss of value. Mr McLerran
responded that this is not an easy issue but stated that he has
dealt with an environmentally sensitive ordinance in another
community where it did not have any impact on property value with
respect with properties that were either in or out. The
constitution does not provide that compensation comes into play
until you get to the point that there is no reasonable use of the
property, although property tax relief may be available in some
instances. These regulations supplement regulations that are
already there, i.e., the state Environmental Policy Act. Cindy
Wolpin clarified that existing homes do not have any impact at all
under this ordinance. Mr McLerran responded that he does not think
there will be a perceived difference; existing houses are
specifically identified as continuing to be legal uses under the
ordinance.
Doug Lamy, Swan Hotel, questioned if his permits are vested, will
he be allowed an extension should his building permit process go
beyond the period of review. Mr Robison clarified that shoreline
and SEPA matters are exempt from this ordinance.
David Wren questioned if owners of property designated on the map
notify a prospective buyer that they are in an environmentally
sensitive zone regardless of whether the property is vacant or has
a home on it. Mr McLerran responded that there is case law with
respect to real estate brokers and agents with respect to property
owners that requires disclosure of items that would substantially
impact the purchase decision by someone. Matters like zoning and
so on are matters of public record.
There being no further questions of clarification, Mayor Clise
opened the hearing to the Public. Kay Hermann, who lives in Port
Angeles, was recognized and stated her concern that she had not
been notified that her property could be designated an
environmentally sensitive area and that she has had no opportunity
to participate in this decision. She also stated that she does not
feel that her property cannot be designated environmentally
sensitive without being inspected and feels that this ordinance
would affect her property value.
Steven Moriarty, attorney representing Kay Hermann, was recognized
and stated that he sees two issues in the ordinance that he feels
give the property owner grounds to challenge the enforcement of the
ordinance: 1) being placed in an environmentally sensitive zone
without being notified 2) the ordinance makes reference to
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"reasonable use" but does not give any definition of reasonable
use. The ordinance should be drafted to make sure that an owners
property rights are not ignored and should provide reasonable use
parameters and not rely on staff interpretations and notice should
be sent to each property owner if they are designated as bE~ing in
an environmentally sensitive area. Mr McLerran commented that this
is a legislative action, like comprehensive planning, dealing with
all the parcels of the city as a whole and not with a specific
individual site; a quasi judicial rezoning would require no"tice to
each individual property owner and a specific hearing. General
notification through the newspaper and the kinds of public process
and hearings that have gone on so far on this ordinance is adequate
to meet due process requirements. The reasonable use exGeption
process is intended to allow a factual inquiry to look at the
specific facts and circumstances of the individual pi'ece of
property. The city has done what is legally required and would be
limiting things too greatly if a set of specific criterium for
reasonable use was set.
Bob Rickard was recognized and stated that there will be no public
testimony taken at the Planning Commission meeting tomorro'~.
Margaret Lee was recognized and stated her concerns about aquifer
recharge areas and wetlands specifically on page 29. She stated
that there is not enough attention given to the use of chE~micals
and pesticides and would like to see much more specific langiuage as
to who or what agency is going to supervise of take control of that
necessi ty to protect our aquifer. Ms Lee stated that she has
submi tted a list of pesticides which have a high potential for
leaching into groundwater as well as an outline for a model
ordinance to address local pesticide use explaining that some of
this information could be included in the ordinance being
discussed.
David Wren was recognized and opposed the ordinance stating that
his home and vacant land at 409 Q Street are taken under emergency
powers by city hall by wrapping it with the environmE~ntally
sensitive areas ordinance and questioned the fair value of his land
and called it an unjust law.
Don Barr was recognized and stated that he had not heard of this
ordinance until he saw the map published in The Leader even though
there have been other hearings and suggested that there should have
been a larger effort made to be sure everyone knew it was going on.
He further stated that he and his wife feel that the basic intent
of the ordinance is a good thing for the community and hope that
its problems can be straightened out.
Cal McCune was recognized and spoke about the environml:!ntally
sensi ti ve areas not recognized in the ordinance: 1) the! smoke
problem during the winter in the Kah Tai Valley 2) the downtown
area in relation to earthquakes. Mr McCune stated that hE~, as a
downtown property owner, has the feeling of being buffeted :for the
last four years in his desire to develop his property and requested
that the Council have a thumbs up, green light attitude toward
construction downtown.
Kathryn Jenks was recognized, thanked city staff and officials for
this ordinance, and stated that she has known about it. since
January and has seen many instances in the newspaper of it and lots
of meetings, stating that she feels there was adequate public
notice. Ms Jenks stated that this is the first of three steps: the
second being the purchase of wildlife corridors and habitat and the
third step being a combined, long-term effort of public education
as to why environmentally sensitive areas are so important. Ms
Jenks suggested that a volunteer citizen group be formed 1:0 help
with this, that the group be information gatherers only and never
have a part in the process of deciding or advocating and que:stioned
who and what will benefit from this ordinance.
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willi Smothers was recognized, thanked city staff and all the
volunteers who have worked on this ordinance and stated that out of
this process we will have the most fair and just policy to
scrutinize development and insure that the quality of life will be
assured in this community. He is currently building a home
adjacent to an open space and feels that his property value will
increase because of the open space.
James Hermanson was recognized and commented that to assess a fee
to stop a person from appealing is distressing and stated that a
fee would exclude many from appealing. Mr Hermanson further stated
that he has always considered himself an environmentalist but now
feels that the Growth Management Act, County Commissioners and city
officials in a sense are creating precipitating genocide on the
small property owner and this if his land is reduced in value
because of legislation, that the rest of the citizens should bear
the cost.
Byron Swigart, speaking on behalf of puget Power, was recognized
summarized his comments and gave written comments to the Council
and Commissioners. In his summary, Mr swigart petitioned council
for corrective action on his comments sent in earlier and not taken
into account in the current document stating portions of draft #8
would seriously obstruct the ability of puget Power to carry out
its statutorily mandated duty and that much of the language is
confusing and ambiguous. Mr swigart stated that in an emergency,
time is of the essence and requested that the requirements for
director approval in cases of emergencies, repairs, routine
maintenance and improvements in the existing utilities systems be
deleted. In emergencies, the imposition of unnecessary obstacles
to a prompt response is contrary to public safety, health and
welfare.
Jolene Anderson was recognized and presented a formal rebuttal on
behalf of the Jefferson County Homebuilders Association which she
distributed to the Council and Commissioners. Ms Anderson invited
the Council and Commissioners to meet with the Homebuilders to
discuss a more balanced approach to drafting the final document.
Glen Huntingford speaking for the Jefferson County Property Rights
Alliance was recognized and distributed a letter from the alliance
stating their concerns for the draft ordinance which he read.
Bernie Arthur was recognized and stated his concerns about the use
of "rapid growth" and "adverse" in the findings of fact, the effect
on the environment and why this ordinance is needed. Mr Arthur
also questioned how this is going to affect the people in the cost
of living in this community and stated that if this is passed, who
is going to get to live here.
Linda Newberry was recognized, stated she has been participating in
this as a private citizen, and that it is time to start listening
to what the earth has to say and to what are responsibilities are.
She urged that the council and commission pay attention to what the
facts say and not listen to scare tactics because there are people
who do care about the environment.
Betty Wren was recognized and stated that she agrees with her
husband and that just because they are property owners doesn't mean
that they don't care' about the environment and resents being
painted "ungreen".
Monica Mick-Hagar was recognized and stated that the property she
plans on building on is in one of the zones, very steep land on the
south side of Morgan Hill. She thanked everyone who has worked on
the ordinance and then stated that she is glad that there is a very
good potential that this ordinance will become a reality and the
only way to keep the beauty here is to think on an individual basis
on each piece of property.
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Lee Wilburn was recognized and urged everyone to derail this
project saying that as much work as has been done, there is still
a way to go. He suggested a short and simple interim ordinance as
this ordinance needs an environmental impact statement. Mr Wilburn
pointed out changes he would like to see and then stated t.hat he
thinks that the substantive ideas of the ordinance are headed in
the right direction.
Paula Mackrow was recognized and explained that the intent of the
Growth Management Act was that internal ordinances would be in
place last September with extensions to this March to prevent
further degradation of all sensi ti ve areas before they can be
identified and designated. Since we are so far over the deadline,
she urged that we proceed with considerable haste to me!et the
mandates of the Growth Management Act.
Michael Atkins was recognized and stated that one of the
fundamentals of ecology is the interconnectedness of nature and
explained that the whole Quimper Peninsula is an environmE~ntally
sensitive area and should be treated as such.
Forest Shomer was recognized and stated that we should respl9ct the
water and that without water there are no plants or civili:1!:ation.
We should keep as much water as falls out of the sky in place in
the soil, sub-soil, aquifer and in the living tissue of plants and
animals. Mr Shomer stated that this ordinance begins to review the
community in terms of watersheds instead of the planned grid of 100
years ago and urged the city to continue in the direct.ion of
watershed management instead of political grid management.
Byron Ruby was recognized and stated that his nephew will be upset
when he discovers that his property is in an environmE~ntally
sensitive area and could prevent him from building or would cost
him a lot more money to build when he comes to retire here. He
urged more study before this ordinance is passed and recommended
that it not be dumped in the community's lap in a short ti]ne.
Daniel Yesberger was recognized and stated that his property in one
of the environmentally sensitive areas, he had not heard of any of
the hearings, has been logging just enough of his property to pay
his taxes and will now probably have to clear cut it to ma]{e sure
he can get his own timber off his own property.
Kay Goodhue was recognized and stated she feels intimida1:ed but
that people have a right to express their opinions, to address
council and the planning commission. She further stated that the
council and commission have done an excellent job with the
ordinance will all the public hearings, testimonies and input and
come up with draft 8 which is much improved from others and feels
that she has been listened to, her input has been heeded and feels
that it is long overdue.
Janeen Hayden was recognized, thanked everyone for the efforts put
into the ordinance and stated that the ordinance is a good result.
Ms Hayden also stated that the ordinance doesn't do what shl9 would
like, the buffers are smaller than she would like, the size of
parcels to be regulated are bigger, but it does clearly say that we
care about these aspects of our environment and we are willing to
do something about it. Every day that goes by, we are losing
things that are important to us as a community. Ms Hayden stated
that 70% of those who responded to the survey done by Jefferson
County a year ago spoke loudly and clearly about the preservation
of air quality, water quality, forests, fish and wildlife habitat
and wetlands and that this ordinance is one step in that dirlection.
steve Hayden was recògnized and stated that the photographs on the
wall taken about ten years apart tell an important story - the tree
cover on the second one is dramatically less, the number of miles
of road are dramatically more and asked that we think about the
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changes in the last ten years in terms of flooding and water run-
off problems from big storms. This ordinance goes a long way
toward protecting the system that has been here for at least ten
thousand years and could last a while longer if we protect the
wetlands, drainage, and tree cover.
Doug Mason was recognized and stated that his property is in an
environmentally sensitive area, understands why the ordinance has
the provisions that it has and how it is going to affect his
property and is glad that the city is doing what it is doing
because there are important qualities about his property that need
to be regulated and protected.
Kathleen Mitchell was recognized, thanked everyone for the process
of this ordinance and commented that the maps are to be used for
guidelines only; it is important to make a commitment to protect
critical wildlife habitat, wetlands and water quality; and this
ordinance is how it can be done; and thinks that this ordinance and
the Growth Management Act are not a takings, just a means to have
appropriate development and is a good starting point.
David Wren was recognized and admitted that his previous statement
was harsh and explained his reaction to mistakes even though he has
been assured that he is really not in the environmentally sensitive
area and that it is just a little error; his life, for many years,
has been ruined by "little errors" and he reacts very strongly to
them and stated that this law is too rough and has no "give" in it.
Doug Lamy was recognized and stated that he sees the need for an
advocacy instead of an adversarial relationship with city hall.
There being no further testimony, Mayor Clise closed the hearing to
the Public.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further
coming and expressing
adjourned at 9:51 PM.
everyone for
the meeting
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR SESSION OF JULY 20,1992
The City Council of the city of Port Townsend met in regular
session this Twentieth day of July, 1992, at 7:00 PM in the Council
Chambers of City Hall, Mayor John M Clise presiding.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers present at Roll Call were Jean Camfield, Vern Jones,
Julie McCulloch, Norma Owsley, Robert Sokol, Sheila Westerman and
Cindy Wolpin. Also present were Clerk-Treasurer David Grove, City
Attorney Dennis McLerran, City Planner Rick Sepler, Police Chief
Jim Newton and Public Works Director Robert Wheeler.
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