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MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL SESSION OF SEPTEMBER 9, 2002
The City Council of the City of Port Townsend met in special session this ninth day of
September, 2002, at 6:30 p.m. in the Port Townsend Council Chambers of City Hall,
Mayor Kees Kolff presiding.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers present at roll call were Joe Finnie, Kees Kolff, Geoff Masci, Catharine
Robinson, and Michelle Sandoval. Frieda Fenn was excused; A1 Youse notified the
Clerk he would be late. Staff members present were City Manager David Timmons, City
Attorney John Watts, Fire Chief Ed Edwards, Public Works Director Ken Clow, and City
Clerk Pam Kolacy.
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COMMISSIONERS
Commissioners Rich Stapf, Zane Wyll and Mark Bowes were present.
City Manager Dave Timmons gave a brief introduction. He stated that there are many
implications to the discussion of combining services, some of which are financial and
level of service considerations. He asked those present to keep in mind the benefits to be
gained for the people we serve and those who perform the services to carry out critical
missions.
Chief Ed Edwards of the Port Townsend Fire Department and Fire District #6
Commission Chair Rich Stapf, presented an in-depth presentation including overviews of
each department, budgets, insurance rating, options and recommendations.
Recommendations
Chief Edward recommends that the City Council determine an adequate level of service
and direct the City Manager to evaluate methods of providing that level.
Commissioner Stapf recommends that as elected officials we establish the "level of
service" we want to provide to our respective communities and then work together to
meet that goal."
In answer to michelle: budget implications: reallocate budget to responders rather than
administration.
Clarifying questions
Chief Edwards elaborated on the need for a Training Officer and the duties of the
position. He also discussed the details of a pre-fire program.
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Mr. Stapf explained on the new proposed structure of Fire District #6, noting that the
budget funds are being reallocated to responders rather than administration.
Mr. Masci asked about the potential paid staffing at District 6. Mr. Stapf replied there is
no official proposal on the tale, but there is a potential, with cooperation, to come up with
a command officer, paramedic and two firefighters on each shift. The staffing would be
supplemented by the volunteers.
Chief Edwards noted that an example of benefit from combining departments is that
District 6 has a new piece of equipment which, if shared, would eliminate the need for the
City to acquire at a cost of about $120,000..
Public comment:
Nancy Dorgan. Stated she would like to hear more information about the merger from
the perspective of growth management.
Comments from Fire District Commissioners
Mr. Wyll stated that it is important we do all we can to provide best service for Port
Townsend and for District 6 with the resources now provided by the public; we should
show the public we are providing the best service possible and if the public desires a
higher level of service, they may support more funding.
Mr. Bowes stated that he has the highest praise for the departments and commends their
efforts for managing resources in the face of shrinking dollars. He commented on the
growing number of mergers and annexations.. He stated his one reservation is that he
does not want to compromise maintenance of the strong Port Townsend Fire tradition
which goes back 127 years.
Council discussion
Ms. Sandoval asked for a list of three positives and three negatives that would result from
a cooperation between departments.
Chief Edwards replied he is asked continually for the negative side of cooperation with
Fire District #6. He stated that for public safety, firefighter safety, best utilization of
resources, and service to the public, it is a win-win situation and he can see no down side.
Councilors had several questions about the ISO ratings. Chief Edwards noted that the
rating system is complicated but he would provide whatever information the councilors
wish. He added there can be many benefits to public safety which will not necessarily be
reflected in an improved ISO rating.
Mr. Youse arrived at 7:50 p.m.
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Mr. Masci stated he considers the growth management issue to be is a red herring which
has nothing to do with providing a consistent and adequate level of service to the citizens
of the area. He said the discussion should center around citizen benefit and life and
death issues, not whether an urban or rural level of service is maintained. He added that
the council should step forward and determine how all the people in this isolated area can
be best served. He added that we are probably one of the last cities to go forward with a
merger or annexation and as a result citizens are being disadvantaged.
Mr. Finnie noted that the Fire Department budget request goes up every year and cuts
always must be made that affect the level of service. He does not consider the growth
management argument compelling when one considers the fact that there are
extraordinary upward pressures on our ability to deliver the current level of service.
Mr. Youse stated his continual concern that the department should be working closely
together; he stated we are missing a level of professionalism we could maintain if the
department were larger. He added that Chief Edwards's leadership has been crucial to the
department and he puts great store in his recommendation. He agrees that the ISO rating
can be maintained but with significant improvement in service.
All councilors expressed appreciation for the excellent presentation.
Mr. Timmons spoke to the issue of insurance ratings, and stated that the benefit would
likely be to maintain the rating we have rather than improving it. He said we are barely
maintaining at this point. Other positives resulting from cooperation include sharing of
resources and improved disaster response and management through a unified plan.
Mayor Kolff stated there are some issues to resolve and he looks forward to dealing with
them through the General Government Committee, with a recommendation to the
council.
RECESS
The meeting was recessed at 8:10 p.m.
At this time, the District #6 Commissioners left the meeting.
Mr. Finnie left the meeting during the recess.
RECONVENE
The meeting was reconvened at 8:20 p.m.
PARKS AND RECREATION FUNDING OPTIONS
Mr. Timmons introduced Lee Springgate, of the Point Wilson Group, who presented an
overview of the City of Port Townsend Parks and Recreation, including a discussion of
funding options.
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Mr. Springgate answered several clarification questions regarding different funding
options. He stated that in general he recommends that the City Council maintain control
and make decisions regarding the city's parks and recreation; that a city parks department
be formed separate from Public Works, that taxpayers generally do not welcome another
government board (i.e. Board of Park Commissioners), and that the city's Parks Plan is a
good pragmatic piece which should be related to an overarching vision or community
plan which looks at the total benefits to the citizens.
Public Comment
Lyn Hersey Asked whether, if a recreation district were formed and a tax levied to
support the city's operations and maintenance expenses for county facilities within the
city, the county would also contribute funding for those facilities.
Warren Steurer. (Jefferson County Public Works) stated that Jefferson County is at a new
beginning in terms of Parks and Recreation policies; the county is also working on a non-
motorized plan. He cited county budget shortfalls and noted that part of the
recommendation within the Comprehensive Plan is to create some sort of park and
recreation funding source; a metropolitan park district is specifically identified but there
are other ways to accomplish this. He cited the county's success with Chimacum Beach
and H.J. Carroll Park and clarified that the Larry Scott Trail is a County, not a Port
project and that the City maintains part of the trail. He stated that this is a great point in
time for the City and County to work together and determine different ways to come
together with involvement from non-profits and stakeholders as well.
Barbara McColgan Pastore stated that she and other members of the Parks & Recreation
Advisory Board are in attendance, and one of their tasks has been to sit in on the
Jefferson County Park Board's deliberations. The board will be asking the council for
some specific guidance with regard to their work plan.
Cary Bozeman, Mayor of Bremerton, stated that a Public Facilities District can be
established by the County and is being done successfully in Kitsap County.
City Attorney John Watts stated that cities can form Public Facilities Districts themselves
or in cooperation with a county; there are restricted purposes and limitations on what the
money can be spent for. He added that formation of a metropolitan park district requires
a vote on the people in the jurisdiction in which it is established.
Lyn Hersey stated that when the city's Parks Plan was created, the citizens were never
asked about recreation facilities, but only about open space; she added that is the plan is
revisited, she would like to see more added regarding recreation facilities and
programming.
Rebecca Rafuse stated that many special interest groups appear to express their views at
council meetings; she is concerned about the effect of another tax on low-income
families, and stated that another $100 per year might turn someone over the edge of being
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able to live in the community. She added that there are many parks for our population
and they are used by tourists as well, so there may be a way to collect money from
visitors.
Mr. Youse stated the council should decide on what it wants to achieve in terms of
funding per capita. He added that if a new tax is created it should be identified that way
instead of as a "funding source". He likes the vision of connecting the green spaces but
would like to be very cautious about protecting the people who have built the system and
their ability to pay for it in the future.
ADJOURN
The meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
Attest:
Pamela Kolacy, CMC
City Clerk
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