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MINUTES OF THE WORKSHOP SESSION OF JULY 13, 2009
CALL TO ORDER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The City Council of the City of Port Townsend met in workshop session the thirteenth
day of July, 2009, at 6:30 p.m. in the Port Townsend City Council Chambers of City
Hall, Mayor Michelle Sandoval presiding.
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers present at roll call were David King, Laurie Medlicott, Kris Nelson,
George Randels, Catharine Robinson, Michelle Sandoval, and Mark Welch.
Staff members present were City Manager David Timmons, City Attorney John Watts,
Public Works Director Ken Clow, DSD Director Rick Sepler, and City Clerk Pam Kolacy
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION ON ALLOWING
"DEPARTURES" FROM SIGN CODE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE
HISTORIC DISTRICT WITH DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL
Mr. Sepler reviewed the packet material. He noted that the issue of sign departures has
come up in several instances lately with entities such as the Northwest Maritime Center,
Point Hudson and the Port seeking signage which would not be allowed under the current
code. He stated that the Council could proceed with proscriptive standards or with
performance standards which would assure that certain standards were met but also
provide flexibility°.
Mr. Sepler stated that the Planning Commission thought the departure idea should be
available for private entities as well as governments. Although departures were
proposed only for the Historic District, some commissioners thought it might be
appropriate to expand it to citywide use. In terms of staff perspective, a context for
departures is needed.
He added that the master sign plan was designed for public and quasi-public entities;
departures would be applicable for all uses, inclusive ofquasi-public. Staff has an easier
time with quasi-public than private and commercial; there must be a mechanism to
determine whether a master sign plan or departure serves the public interest and is a
better solution than following the code provisions. The proposed methods differ from a
variance, which is based on a hardship. These are the issues addressed in the revised
ordinance.
Mr. Welch asked what the "appropriate advisory committee" would be for the departure
approval process. Mr. Sepler noted that the Design Review Advisory Committee would
do commercial review outside the Historic District and the Historic Preservation
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Committee would do review for the Historic District. He added that for purposes of the
sign ordinance, agreement by the majority of the committee is required, not consensus as
in other sections of the code.
Ms. Robinson asked whether the DSD director has veto power over a committee decision
in favor of departure. Mr. Sepler stated that neither advisory body has final decision
authority but that the Director rarely has had occasion to go against a committee
decision.
Ms. Robinson suggested that the specific criteria be broken out so they are easy to find.
Mr. Sepler reviewed the conditional uses allowed in residential areas. Ms. Robinson
suggested that the fact that departures aze discretionary and therefore not guaranteed be
clearly stated.
Mr. Randels suggested that the language in A be changed to reflect exceeding a particular
standazd "or group of standards" and to make both "technique" and "approach" plural. In
section 2, he suggested making "building" plural.
Mr. Randels suggested that the last sentence (C)(1) spell out clearly that the Director may
deny the request in spite of a positive committee recommendation.
Mr. King asked if the "master sign permit" still exists. Mr. Sepler stated that this
approach can accommodate the need identified for that process; however staff has
concerns about the lack of specific guidance in the governing documents for areas outside
the Historic District Mr. Randels stated that it must be clear that the signage must be
"better" by interpretation of staff, not the applicant.
Ms. Sandoval asked how to interpret "better serve the public interest" as it seems
subjective. She suggested referencing the Comprehensive Plan in the ordinance.
Ms. Sandoval said that the ordinance should contain language stating that the process will
never apply to a home-based business and other Council members agreed.
Mr. King stated that in areas like Sims Way, there should be more specific language
about why a departure would be approved as "serving the public interest" is vague and
open to interpretation. Mr. Randels stated that referencing the Comp Plan might be of
help. There were questions about outright prohibition, for example, of pole
signs. Discussion ensued about off premise signs; Mr. Sepler noted that we are one of
the few jurisdictions prohibiting off premise signs although district signage will be
allowed under the ordinance.
Mr. Sepler stated he will try to add some more specifics. He also said the existing sign
code is a reference point so applicants can refer to the existing code as the basic
framework for the community's desires.
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Mr. Randels asked if there should be specificity for residential signage that wouldn't be
covered by either committee or parts of the zoning code that aren't covered, P-1 for
example, and whether these areas should be referenced.
Ms. Nelson stated that we should be cautious about spelling out a specific type of sign
that is not allowed as that implies approval of all others.
Discussion ensued regarding how new regulations might apply to aquaculture or fisheries
or sales offish from docks. Ms. Robinson stated she thought the regulations would apply
to permanent rather than temporary signage and she does see a difference between a
seasonal mirsery and selling fish off the dock.
Mr. Watts stated that sign codes are difficult as they may be interpreted under free speech
laws; the worst approach is carving out many exceptions that undermine the basic
rationale, which is generally based on such things as aesthetics and traffic; you can open
the door for directional, wayfinding and traffic signs but going to the next level and
saying some businesses may have signage and some may not, the legal standing becomes
more questionable.
Mr. Watts stated it is safer not getting into off premise signage, and particularly if you
create a large number of exceptions. signage rules need to be tied to wayfinding or
directional needs rather than type of business.
Mayor Sandoval declared arecess at 733 p.m. The meeting was reconvened at 7:4~} p.m.
STREET USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS
Mr. Sepler reviewed the packet material and passed out a revised draft ordinance.
Mr. Sepler and Mr. Clow answered several clarifying questions about the proposed
ordinance.
Mr. King suggested that a reference be included to note that the regulations apply in the
Historic District.
Ms. Nelson asked about making language more clear that all applications must be
approved by the appropriate staff person (even if they meet all criteria it is not
automatic).
Mr. Randels stated that all references to "criterions" should be changed to "criteria."
Mr. Randels requested that a fee schedule be brought forward in conjunction with the
ordinance.
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Mr. Randels stated that the concept of rent should be incorporated so that the City does
not allow the use of its property for free.
There was brief discussion about how decks over a public right of way would fit in; Mr.
Sepler stated this is already in the code although some cities have negotiated air
rights and allowed "bridge" expansions.
Mr. Watts stated the permits would be issued fox one year with renewals and any other
arrangement would come back to the Council for approval.
ADJOURN
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:17 p.m.
Attest.
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Pamela Kolacy, MMC
City Clerk
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