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Minutes of Meeting of March 21, 1991
I. Roll Call.
Chairman Ron Kosec called the Meeting to order at 7 : 34 p. . other
members present were Alam Carman, Karen Erickson, Sally McDole, Jim
Tavernakis and Jim Roberts. Lois Sherwood was not present.
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II. STAFF UPDATE AND COMMISSION COMMENTS
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Michael Hildt, Director of Planning Building, stated that since
the Planning Commission hearing of March 14 , I99,11 the Planning and
Building Department staff has made changes to the Gateway Plan as
the commissioners had requested, and has also asked Dori Stastny,
the consultant on the project, to incorporate those changes into
the plan. Michael Hildt said that a particular emphasis in amandin
the plan will be to closely examine the parking situation.
Mr. Hildt directed the commission' s attention -to the letters and
reports included in the commission packets. He said the goal of
this meeting was to understand the needs of the commission in
making - decision on the plan.
Mr.. Hildt stated that planner Dave Robison had met with James
Davis, a gateway property owner earlier today and resolved Mr.
Davis 'srevious concerns about the plan.
Mr. Robison, staff planner, began his update With a discussion of
the report by the traffic engineer. Mr. Robison stated that- the
only unprotected left turn was onto Kearney Street from Sins Way.
He stated that the traffic engineer recommended creating a left
hand tura lane onto Washington and deleting the left hand turn lane
onto Kearney from Sims Way. A signal would be installed at the
Sims/Washington intersection.
Some discussion followed about westbound access onto Decatur
Street. The traffic engineer's recommendation is to prohibit a
left land turn onto Decatur due to visibility. and traffic back-up
problems.
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Mr. Tavernatkis asked about the difficulty of creating a five way
intersection. Mr. Hildt said that the traffic engineer is still
working on a way to make this intersection work.
Ms. Erickson asked .i the Visitor's Center would have a curb curt or
not. Mr. Hilt said the photo on page 33 of the plan shows a curb.
Some discussion followed about the difficulty of ferry passengers
to get to the visitor's Center. Mr. Hildt discussed possible
access from Benedict and Jefferson Streets. Jefferson Street is
fairly wide and is not frequently used.
, Hildt turned to the Forest Corridor section of the Plan pg.
1 -1 He stated that the graphics could be unproved. Mr,
Robison said the recommendations he thinks are most important are
the signalization and widening of Mill road, continuous shoulder
for bicycle lanes and the protection of trees.
Mr. Robi
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. Robison moved to the second room, the "Established onmmerci
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Ms. icDole asked about the possibility of creating a truck route
for trucks coming from downtown since that seemed to be a major
reason for the realignment.
Mr. Hildt said that the difficulty of trucks stopping on the hill
was only one consideration. others included visibility problems.
Ms. Erickson stated that if a light were at the intersection, the
light should solve visibility problems. She, said the trucks are
used to hills; they manage in Seattle. She , said she cannot see
that it is that critical to form this realignment.
Mr, Robison referred the commissioners to memos in their packets
from the traffic engineer, consultant Don Stastny and an economic
study by Hudson & Jelaco regarding the realignment. Mr. Hildt said
the Hudson & Jelaco study was funded jointly by the City and
property owners.
. Erickson asked for a summary of the materials. Mr. Robison
said the traffic engi9 neer found . this intersection in the Castle
Hill District to be the most critical in the gateway district. The
grade and visibility problems were also considered in determining
the intersection should be realigned. Hudson & Jelaco expected the
realignment help Castle Hill ' business.
Ms. McDole said she would lice to hear from Dr. ' avernakis since he
has a business that would be affected. Dr. Tavernakis said that he
agrees with the realignment through Castle .,Hill because of the
reasons Mr. Robison mentioned above. He said he is concerned about
the proposed expansion of the hospital and increased residential
uses, He said he is also concerned about the lack of sidewalks and
crosswalks for children and other pedestrians. He said he is not
personally impacted by the plan. He said further that he f Inds
this a high priority and should be done now. He said this may be
the number one priority, but may not be number one doable. Mr.
Robison agreed.
Mr, Hildt said he thinks the realignment would improve the entrance
into the Castle Hill shopping center.
Ms. McDole stated that the photo shop/kiosk was completely
eliminated according to the graphics. Mr. Hildt said that needs to
be addressed in the text of the plan.
Mr. Robison moved to discussion of the I'S Corridor. " He briefly
stated the recommendations for this district, as written in the
plan.
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. Carman asked if the city should consider , four lanes and not
only two lanes for this area if the plan is for a 20 year time
period.
Mr. Hi idt said that he thinks the traffic growth assumptions should
be closely analyzed now so that the city can be comfortable in
thinking two lanes and a left hand turning lane would be adequate
for the level of flow along this corridor since the city and
property owners will be mak ing substantial financial investments in
idewa►lk curbs, etc. He said cuts into the residential bluff
would not be necessary to widen the streets,
Mr. Robison briefly summarized the recommendations for the Flats
District, as stated in the plan.
Mr, Robison then turned to the Haines street Room. one
recommendation in this district is the realignment of Haines street
through the Safeway parking lot.
Ms. Mcole said at the present time there is a lot of traffic
coming out of McDonalds trying to make a left hand turn onto sins
Way. Mr. Robison said he had identified that as an area that
requires further examination and that the geometrics of this
problem Mould have to be worked out.
Mr. Robison said there has been broad support for this realignment,
Ms. Erickson said that is because no businesses are adversely
affected by this realignment.
Mr. Carman asked how this realignment would affect Safeway's
parking requirements. Mr. Hildt responded that Safeway exceeds
current requirements and would not be adversely impacted by the
realignment.
Mr. Carman turned to page 33 of the plan where it discusses the
possibility of additional parking along Decatur and Jefferson, Ms,
Erickson said that she didn't know where Decatur had any room for
providing additional parking. A brief disuion of parking in
this area followed.
Mr. Robison turned to the crossroads District, He said there are
still some questions that should be resolved and the trees in the
graphics are exaggerated.
Ms, Erickson said the wa►terwalk along this area was taken out by
City council in the Urban Waterfront Plan, she said she thinks the
Waterwalk begins at Kearney St.
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Mr. Robison moved to discussion of the last district, the Bluff
Corridor. He briefly stated the recommendations, as written in the
plan.
Mr. Hildt stated that the computer generated photo of this district
showed the difference that new signage would make. He said
monument signs will have to be tailored to work in this district.
Ms. IcDole asked about access to businesses. Mr. Hildt said that
good driveways will have to be established in this area. He also
said the city had spent some time with the businesses last spring
to discuss driveways and the talks were not very successful. He
said further work needs to be dome on the driveway issue.
Mr. Robison moved onto the Gateway plan design guidelines. He said
the guidelines were crafted by Don Stastny who also wrote the
guidelines for the Urban Waterfront plan. He said the guidelines
are compatible with the Urban Waterfront guidelines but are more
flexible,
Mr. Hildt said the staff has examined the plans of some recent
developments along the corridor. Staff found that for the most
part the developments work with the guidelines, except for a few
small inconsistencies,
Mr. Robison said Don Stastny and the Planning and Building staff
want to avoid the "cookbook" approach to design guidelines for this
district. Flexibility is key.
Mr. Robison moved to discussion of the. Route Development
Transportation Analysis. He said that staff would be going out
into the field to examine the recommendations,
Mr. Hildt i the data and analysis are solid, however the text
needs to be unproved and maps added.
Ms, McDole said she recalls several fatalities on Sins Way in the
last 10 or 20 years.
Nis. Erickson turned to the major recommendations of the Route
Development Transportation Analysis. she asked what the setbacks
are that are referred to in the fifth major recommendation on page
9,
Mr. Hildt said the city plans to examine setback requirements for
buildings so that consolidating access points will be possible.
Mr. Hildt thea moved to the Cost Memorandum, He said the
memorandum shows global costs of improving each district as well as
information to use for estimating specific projects.
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Mr. Robison sa.id that the two most expensive items are street
lights and undergrounding utilities. He said undergrounding
utilities may not be financially feasible for the entire corridor.
Puget Power said the costs of street lights could be cut by almost
0 percent by looping at other streetlight alternatives,, He said
the costs for traffic i
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Mr. Cunningham said the plan is predicated on growth estimates of
two percent a year. He said he has heard figures of seven percent
year. He said he thinks alternatives should be proposed to the
Com ission and pros and cons of each alternative presented.
He asked what the impact on Discovery Bay Road would be if this
plan were adopted. He said that all the state highways are
bypassing the urban areas in the state. Will Port Townsend be
bypassed next, he asked,
Mr. Cunningham said he sees two problems. First, the city needs to
address the traffic congestion that exists. He said we need
solution now. Second, we need to determine where SR 20 traffic
should go. He said we need to examine the consequences of traffic
growing seven percent on Discovery Bay Road.
Chairman Ron Nosec closed the public hearing testimony section of
the hearing.
Mr. Robison suggested scheduling a workshop meeting to discuss the
Implementation and Financing Plan. Mr. Hildt suggested scheduling
a workshop meeting for April 11.
V. RECOMMENDATION To ADHERE TO ARTICLE IX
Mr, Hildt suggested to the Commission that they adhere to Article
IX of thein bylaws: have one workshop and one business meeting a
month. He said that other- possibilities exist for handling some
issues administratively. One example is a variance for a person
who needs a two foot setback for a porch, Mr. Hildt also suggested
some code amendments to make some things more consistent. He also
stated we need to consider cases that require more than one
meetings discussion.
The Commission had no objections to adhering the rules as they
stand, A Gateway workshop meeting will be held April 11, 1991.
VI, ADJOURN
Ids. Erickson moved to adjourn. Ms, McDole seconded the motion.
Chairman Ron Kosec adjourned the meeting at 10:20 p.m.
Minutes recorded b
K thenine M. Johnson
Planning & Building Assistant
GATEWAY DEVELOPLONT PLAN
PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING
MARCH 21, 1991
7-030 PM.
AGENDA
1. STAFF UPDATE
2. PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT PLAN
3. IMPLEMENTATION AND FINANCING STRATEGY
A. GATEWAY PRIORITIES
B. DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS
• C. RECOMMENDED FINANCIAL STRATEGY
D. KEEPING OPPORTUNITIES ALIVE
4. PUBLIC TESTIMONY: NEW INFORMATION
5. RECOMMENDATION TO ADHERE TO ARTICLE IX
(SCHEDULING OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS)
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Date: March 1 , 1991
Subject: Meetings Notifications
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C'Ity of Port Townsend
Planning and Building Department
540 dater Street, Port Townscnd,STA 98368 206/385-3000
To: Planning Commission
From: Michael Hildt
Director, Planning and Building
Date: Larch 1 , 1391
Subject: Request to return to monthly business meetings.
As you know, Article IX of the Rules of Policy and Procedure of
the Planning Commission provide that unless a special meeting is
called, the Planning Commission shall convene monthly on the last
Thursday of each month for its regular- business meeting, and on
the second Thursdays for its regular workshop meetings.
In recent years, the Planning Commission has devoted most of its
workshop meeting time 2nd Thursdays) to business 1 .e. , hearings
on applications) in order to keep up with the extraordinary
number of development applications received by the city. While
this has expedited city decisions on proposed development
projects, it has placed considerable strain on the commission and
planning staff as we redouble our efforts to keep pace..
Oftentimes special meetings have been scheduled to find time to
consider major future planning decisions, adding to the demands
on commissioners and interested citizens trying to cover the
myriad meetings underway most evenings.
This is to request that the Commission adhere to Article IX in
its scheduling to better allocate our limited resources to the
' before the cit' Amnon these are �
mayor future planning natters y g
the Gateway Development Plan, Growth Management, Transportation
Planning, and subdivision and zoning code amendments, Use of
workshop meetings for future planning ratters should also allow �
us to work more closely with the Commissi
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March 1 , 1991
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current development hearings. Unless we better balance these
demands, present development is likely to occur without prudent
consideration of future public costs and community impacts.
I hope you will agree that in the long run the public will be
hest served if priority time and attention be provided these
pressing future planning decisions.
Attached is a recommended revised schedule of present
applications. Any legal deadlines on hearings or applications
would, of course, be met.
I would appreciate your review and consideration at your meeting
of March 21.
'hank you,
cc: City Council
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June 27, 1991 (continued)
B. Variance Application, 9102-03, F o ert L. Force
(Committee: Tavemakis/Carman) (Staff: S ler
July 25. 1991
A. Street Vacation Application, 9102-04, George and Shirley Peterson
(Committee: Cannan/Erickson) (Staff: Bloomfidd
B. Vadance Application, 9102-05, Robert ert E. Mc ole
(Committee: Sherwood/Roberts) (Staff: Bl onn field
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Next Scheduled Meetings
Draft
March 21, 1991
A. Gateway Recommendation to City Council
(Staff. Robison)
ison
BVI a 2_ ; 1991
A. Rezone Application, 9011-03, City of Port Townsend
(Committee: Erickson Tavernaki (Staff:Robison)
E. Conditional Use Permit, City of Fort Townsend
(Committee: Erickson Tavernakis (Staff:Robison)
C. Conditional Use Permit, 8912-07, Doug and Nancy Lary (Committee:
Mc ole Car an (Staff: Sepler
D. Short Plat Text Amendment (Staff: Sepler
E. Officer ElectionsqFY I .
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APd1 25o 1991
A. Street Vacation Application, 9101-08, Mike Marson/Lee Wilburn
(Committee: Roberts/Erickson) (Staff: S pier
B. Street Vacation Application, 3101-10, Virginia Dignan
(Committee: Erickson/Sherwood) (Staff: Sepler
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A. Conditional Use Permit, 3012- 3t William White
(Committee: Tavemakrs/Carman) (Staff: Sepler)
B. Subdivision Application,, 900 9-03, Parkview, Vantage Homes
(Committee: T e akis/Sherwood) (Staff: Sepler
June
A. Conditional Use Permit, 9102-01, Inn Deering
(Committee: o rt McC of (Staff: Sepler) is
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ry,, RECEIVED
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B1 & MONTGOMERY ASSOCIATES
1200 West Sims way
fort Townsend, Washington 98368 Planninand Building
Business(200)385-3303
Business 1-800-848-8831
Fax{208}385-3420
March i , 1991
To the Planning Department f Port Townsend re: The Gateway
Plan.
Since the committee has now pub l i shed the-of f i c i al plan , i is
only noir possible to see what it has in mind. We are
addressing speci+ically the Sheri dare-Si ms Way intersection.
Last Thursday 's public. meeting has now made it clear that the
problem being addressed is the trucking di i cul ty. Most of
the trucks begin at the bottom of the hill from zero speed
there. They seem to cope; why can they not , cope here at a
light? It appears to us that a regrading to create a f l atter
intersection would be entirely feasible and considerably less
expensive; not to mention avoiding the need to destroy a► real -
asset to the community. Visibility could be increased by
taking a slice from the already available unimproved land and
adding a light. The land at the NE corner of the intersection
presently is blocking advanced view of the intersection. Even
more significantly, a simple sign on Sheridan prohibiting left
turns onto Sims Way wound eliminate almost all of the danger
without even a light. Mos o+ the local citizens already have
adapted a personal policy cif ref usi ng to use this intersection
for left turns onto Sims, a p err f ec t l y reasonable solution.
The diagram showing realignment of Sheridan appears to put a
new -Curve on that street - woul-d that really sol.ve the
problem? How much di ff i cUi ter Will it create for the ambulances
which regularly travel this route's I+ the p.resent -21 of f l ce
is separated from the rest of the mall , then a foot tra f i
problem is created. Do we want that'?
We are constantly hearing about the parking prob-lem that exists
in downtown Port Townsend, yet this entity seems to be trying
to grab up parking that has already been created in our only
well designed mall . This mall provides plenty of parking for
the existing commercial buildings, and also plenty for any
additional businesses that may be added. This concept is a
good one, and should not be tampered with. Would Port Townsend
really be wel i-served if a commercial building is severed from
the mall and forced to exist i n limbo outside the mall? Our
building at present has occasional need for over 30 parking
spaces, and we foresee ars increase in need as more businesses
are added in the building and a►s we grow.
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Each Office Is Independently Owned And Operated OPPORTUNITY
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As to what this plan wo ld do to the present building , i t would
do all of the following:
1 Force entry by a flight of steps. We automatically would
not be able to serve handicapped people - a Washington State
no-no.
Conceal the entrance to available parking. How 'in the world
can people be expected to know where the parking is?
Force complete redesign for both the interior and the
exterior with a new entrance and provision for wheelchair
access, Is an el-evat or what you have n-6i'nd' 'That would not
cure the second A,evel problem that exists in Port Townsend. It
i well known that in thistown ., �t l s almost impossible v
create a viable commercial endeavor i+ the public has to walk
up stairs, It is vital that any business have street level
access.
`hese problems, 16 -f- adoption of this plan is achlieiv6d will
result in the fol l awi rig:
1 Complete collapse in the value of the property. It 1 s hard
to believe that that will benefit the community.
Possible loss of tenants for the owner.
13) Reduce drastically the ability of the owner to ever sell the
property.
4 Impact over twenty workers, not including those of the other
businesses on the premises. One of these workers i
handicapped and level entry is important.
As a whole, it appears that the Planning Department does not
value the integrity of an important and well designed mall .
,The mall is already providing separation from the traffic ,
plenty of parking ng and room to grove. In addition the sketch
appears to force all the ingress and egress from Sims Way
through to Hendricks St. It at present is only suitable for
one war traffic, If this is forced , then - even less parking for
the businesses facing Sims Way will be available because of the
need to redesign the entrance there. It is shocking that so
little regard has been paid to the owners o both this building
and of the Stock Market building, who do not want this, ,acrd to
the tenants, who might meed to moire if this happens. This mall
serves the of f erson County population very well . Do we really
want to mess it up so much that more shopping than ever is done
outside this county?
It is interesting that the .O.T, goes out and tries to
straighten roads, at much expense, and in town we have an
attempt to add kinks in a straight road. Does this make sense's
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As a f l real comment , it appears that certain decisions were made
from a personal prejudice ce a s t C-21 . It 'in u i rig to u
for~ the firm of Stasny & Burke to publicly state that our
- ompany is not good enough to occupy this corner ! How can
anyone expect the Gateway Committee to obtain any public
support for this project with that kind of approach?
B.J. Johnson', Broker .
Century 21 , B.J. Montgomery Associates
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