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CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND
PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
City Councü Chambers, 7:00 pm
September 28, 2000
I. Call to Order
ll. Roll Call
ill. Acceptance of Agenda
IV. Approval of Minutes: September 14, 2000
V. Unfinished Business
VI. New Business
IA.SEPA Appeal Port Townsend Assisted Living Facility -LUPOO-039
lB. Port Townsend Assisted Living Facility - LUPOO-039
Consolidated bearing of IA and IB:
A Staff Presentation - John McDonagh
B. Developer Presentation
C. SEP A Appellant Presentation
D. Public Testimony
E. Staff Response
F. Commission discussion and conclusions on SEP A Appeal
G. [If SEP A Appeal is denied] Commission discussion and conclusions on CUP
VIT. Upcoming Meetings: October 12, 2000
Vill. Communications
IX. Adjournment
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CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
September 28, 2000
I.
CALL TO 0.RDER
Vice Chair Larry Harbison called the meeting to order at 7 :02 p.m. in the City Council
Chambers.
II. ROLL CALL
Other members answering roll were Karen Erickson, Christine Ota, Jerry Spieckerman,
Bernie Arthur, Jim Irvin and Frank Benskin. Also present were BCD staff members Jeff Randall
and John McDonagh and City Attorney John Watts. City Council representative was Alan Youse.
III. ACCEPTANCE OF AGENDA
Motion to accept the agenda was made by Mr. Spieckerman and seconded by Ms. Ota. All
were in favor.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion to approve the minutes of September 14, 2000 as written and amended was made by
Mr. Spieckerman and seconded by Mr. Irvin. All were in favor.
V. UNFINISHED BUSINESS -- There was none.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. CONSOLIDATED OPEN PUBLIC RECORD HEARING OF SEP A APPEAL
AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, PORT TOWNSEND ASSISTED
LIVING FACILITY, LLC -- LUPOO-039
1A. SEPA APPEAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, PORT
TOWNSEND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, LLC -- LUPOO-039
2A. PORT TOWNSEND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, LLC
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT -- LUPOO-039
At 7 :05 p.m. Mr. Harbison opened the combined, single open record public hearing on both
the SEP A Appeal and Conditional Use Permit (LUPOO-039), Port Townsend Assisted Living, LLC.
He asked for the signing in of witnesses and established rules of order for the meeting:
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~ Everyone will be given an opportunity to be heard;
~ All comments will be made from the speakers lectern;
~ Any individual making comments will first give hislher name and address;
~ Speak loudly and clearly for the official recorded transcript of the meeting being made-- ifthere
is an appeal the court must be able to make its decision on the basis of what we say here tonight;
~ If anyone requires a particular accommodation to speak, please let us know and we will make
those arrangements;
~ In fairness to all in attendance, each person will be given the opportunity to address the Planning
Commission for an initial period not to exceed 3 minutes. Staff may speak for up to 10 minutes;
the applicant shall be given 15 minutes to make their initial presentation. The SEP A appellant
will be given 10 minutes, since the appellant will be addressing only the SEP A appeal and not
the application as a whole. If more time is needed, it will be made available for anyone who
wishes to speak after everyone has had the opportunity. It was requested that Planning
Commission members hold their questions of the public until everyone has finished speaking. It
is not necessary to speak as a proponent or an opponent.
~ Please refrain from demonstrations, clapping or cheering during or at the conclusion of anyone's
presentation;
~ This is the time for the presentation of testimony only; there is no debate allowed.
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Mr. Harbison noted that rules are intended to promote an orderly system of holding public
hearing, to give every person an opportunity to be heard, and to ensure that no individuals are
embarrassed by their right to exercise free speech. He introduced City Attorney John Watts who
swore in collectively those who had signed in and wished to testify. Mr. Watts asked them to stand,
raise their right hand, and he then asked, "Do each of you swear or affirm to tell the truth in this
proceeding?" Their response was affirmative.
Mr. Harbison stated this hearing is quasi-judicial in nature, and therefore the rules of
appearance of fairness and conflict of interest apply. He explained that quasi-judicial actions are
defined as actions ofthe Planning Commission which determine legal rights, duties or privileges of
specific parties in a hearing; the public hearing must be fair in three respects: 1) form; 2) substance;
and 3) appearance.
Mr. Harbison asked for all Planning Commission members including the chair to give
consideration to whether they have had the following:
~ a demonstrated bias or prejudice for or against any party in the proceedings;
~ a direct or indirect monetary interest in the outcome of the proceedings;
~ a prejudgment of the issue prior to hearing the facts on the record;
~ ex parte contact with any individual excluding administrative staff with regard to an issue prior
to this meeting.
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He then called for any Planning Commissioner to disclose ifthey have had any appearance of
fairness or conflict of interest issue.
Mr. Spieckerman responded that he is Vice President and Board Member of the Jefferson
County Economic Development Council (EDC). He said concerning this matter, the Director ofthe
EDC advised him earlier that day that the EDC has provided investors in this project economic and
demographic information as well as review of appropriate zoning for this project. He was also
informed that a member of the EDC Board asked the Director to support this application. He stated
that in his position as Vice President and Director, he has had no personal role in providing the
demographics or has never met with the investors. He has not met with or spoken with the investors
nor with the Board Member that requested the EDC support concerning this application. He said he
did not believe his association with the EDC would affect his ability to judge the matter fairly.
Mr. Harbison asked if there was anyone in the audience who objected to his participation or
the participation of any other Planning Commission members in these proceedings. Mr. Ted
Shoulberg raised the only objection. City Attorney Watts called for Mr. Shoulberg to come to the
lectern, state his name and the nature of the objection.
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Mr. Shoulberg told Mr. Spieckerman it was very good of him to reveal his association. He
went on to say the nature of the Economic Development Council, the culture ofthe influencing ofthe
organization -- that Mr. Spieckerman is a part of that organization and part of that culture, and he felt
for obvious reasons Mr. Spieckerman should excuse himself.
City Attorney Watts replied that he had reviewed the matter with Planning Commissioner
Spieckerman earlier that day. Mr. Watts concluded that in his view there is no conflict of interest
based on Mr. Spieckerman's association with EDC.
Mr. Shoulberg questioned the appearance of fairness. City Attorney Watts also replied he
does not feel either the appearance of fairness or the conflict of interest rules are violated or involved
because of the remote nature ofthe association with the EDC. He determined there is no monetary
benefit between what the EDC is doing and Mr. Spieckerman's participation in this Planning
Commission work.
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Mr. Harbison asked for other concerns from the audience. There being none, he explained
the purpose of this hearing is for the Planning Commission to hear and consider pertinent facts and to
take action relating to the SEP A Appe~l and Conditional Use Permit application for the Port
Townsend Assisted Living facility (LUP #00-039). He outlined the order of speaking, slightly
changed from the agenda:
~ Staff presentation on the SEPA Appeal as well as the Conditional Use Permit;
);- Developer presentation of the SEP A Appeal and Conditional Use Permit;
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~ Presentation by the SEP A Appellant on the SEP A appeal;
~ Public testimony on the SEP A Appeal and Conditional Use Permit;
~ Response or rebuttal by the Developer;
~ Response or rebuttal by the SEP A Appellant;
~ Staff Response;
~ Questions from Planning Commission members.
City Attorney Watts gave preliminary remarks reiterating what the Chair had stated, that this
is a combined, single public hearing on both the SEP A Appeal and Conditional Use Permit. He said
this is being done for purposes of efficiency in the conduct of the hearing. Regarding the order of
speaking on the SEPA Appeal or the merits of the application, he indicated it would be helpful to
state what the speaker's position is.
Mr. Watts explained that at the conclusion of public testimony, the Planning Commission
will first take action on the SEP A Appeal. Under the Port Townsend Municipal Code (PTMC), the
action of the Planning Commission tonight is a recommendation only to the City Council. He said
under the PTMC, the options for the Planning Commission on the SEP A are either to 1) affirm the
SEP A decision; 2) modify the SEP A decision; or 3) reverse the SEP A decision, and he repeated that .
this is a recommendation only to the City Council.
Mr. Watts said as stated in his memo which is part of the Staff Report, the burden of proof in
the SEP A appeal is on the appellant, which means that for the Planning Commission to reverse the
SEP A decision, the Planning Commission must be persuaded there is an error made by the
Responsible Official, BCD Director Jeff Randall, in rendering the SEP A decision. Ifthe Planning
Commission is not so persuaded, the Planning Commission should affirm the decision. Both in
state law and the municipal code, there is a requirement that the Planning Commission give
substantial weight to the decision ofthe SEP A official and give deference to that decision. Once the
Planning Commission decision on SEP A is made, the Planning Commission would go forward and
make a decision on the merits of the Conditional Use Permit. Even if the Planning Commission
reverses the SEP A decision, namely upholds the appeal, the Planning Commission would still take
action on the merits of the Conditional Use Permit.
City Attorney Watts again said both decisions, the SEPA Appeal and the decision on the
merits ofthe Conditional Use Permit, are recommendations that go forward to the City Council. The
action by the City Council tentatively scheduled for October 18th is a closed record review which
means no new testimony, no introduction of exhibits or introduction of documents would be allowed
at the City Council hearing. He said it is important that whatever testimony or documents are sought
to be produced or introduced are done so tonight.
Mr. Harbison asked for the Staff Presentation.
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1. Staff Presentation on SEP A Appeal and Conditional Use Permit (CUP) --
Mr. John McDonagh, Staff Planner
Mr. McDonagh presented Exhibit L, Revised Site Plan and stated the revisions to this site
plan, brought in by the developer tonight, concur with a number ofthe draft findings and conclusions
in the CUP. Revisions involve location of the road serving the project. Site plans in Commission
packets only include revised elevations of the east and west sides of the building; the revised site
plan also has north and south elevations.
He explained that there may be some overlapping of both of tonight's processes although he
will attempt to keep them as segmented as possible. On June 9, 2000, Port Townsend Assisted
Living, LLC applied for a conditional use permit and multi-family design review to construct a 74
unit congregate care or assisted living facility within the R-II zoning district.
He said the site is located in what is informallý known as Happy Valley, located north of F
Street, south of Tremont Street, east of San Juan Avenue. It is an approximately 12.2 acre site, that
is currently vacant with the exception of an old wooden shed that has long since outlived its useful
purpose. The new facility would be const~cted within a sort of topographic depression ofthe land
on the southern portions of the 12-acre site in two phases: Phase 1) 54 units on approximately
41,000 square feet; Phase 2) 20 units on approximately 11,000 square feet -- bringing the total to 74
units with approximately 53,000 square foot of building.
The project involves significant preservation of open space, approximately 6 acres. A brand
new multi-use regional trail would be constructed as part ofthe project. The 6-acre northern portion
of the site would be preserved in perpetuity.
Mr. McDonagh said the conditional use and construction of the facility underwent SEP A
review; a Mitigated Determination of Non-Significance (MDNS) was issued by BCD and the
Responsible Official on August 16, 2000. This MDNS contained 21 mitigating conditions. He said
if you look at those mitigating conditions, they are largely the same conditions that are in the findings
of fact and conclusions on the CUP. The mitigating conditions identified probable adverse
environmental impacts of the project, and conditioned against them.
An appeal of the MDNS was filed on the last day ofthe comment and appeal period August
31, 2000 by Colette Kostelec. The basis of her appeal is that the BCD Director and SEP A
Responsible Official didn't follow all of the adopted codes in the review processing of the
application. In her appeal she maintains that the Port Townsend Municipal Code specifically limits
the number of dwelling units that can be within a single R-II zone structure to four -- reference
PTMC 17.16.030, Residential Bulk and Dimensional Set Back Requirements set forth in the zoning
code. Given this restriction on the number of dwelling units, the appellant concludes that the
proposed 74-unit structure can't be approved through a CUP because it has more than four dwelling
units. She suggests or proposes several alternative methods for reviewing the project, e.g.:
~ Withdrawal of the MDNS and issuance of an environmental impact statement for the project, i.e.,
that it doesn't comply with the codes and the project itself constitutes some sort of adverse
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environmental impact to the community.
~ Planned Unit Development (PUD) and binding site plan be done for the project as well. Mr.
McDonagh said it is clear in the zoning table that a CUP is required for this, but the appellant
feels that because it is going to have more than four dwelling units within one structure, the only
way to achieve that is through a PUD. He said the PUD section of the zoning code requires that
any time you do a PUD, you should process along with a binding site plan, a short plat, or some
sort of plat division.
~ Comprehensive Plan amendment to rezone the property entirely from R-II to R-III where a
congregate care facility would be permitted outright;
~ Propose a zoning code text amendment to clearly allow congregate care facilities within the R-II
zone.
He reviewed for the Planning Commission that the CUP process is a Type III application
which requires review by the Planning Commission. The Planning Commission then forwards a
recommendation to the City Council.
Merits of the SEP A Appeal
Mr. McDonagh highlighted salient points from the September 21 , 2000 memorandum to the
Planning Commission from BCD Director Randall regarding the response to issues raised in the .
SEPA Appeal:
~ Issue 1: Are congregate care facilities subiect to PTMC 17.16.030 limiting the number of
dwelling units in anyone structure to four? He spoke ofthe memo's reference to its history and
said it was clear to Staff when they were looking at the definition of a congregate care facility.
He read for the record,
" 'Congregate care facilities' means the building or complex of dwellings designed for, but
not limited to, occupancy by senior citizens which provides for shared use of facilities, such
as kitchens, dining areas, and recreation areas. Such complexes may also provide kitchens
and dining space in individual dwelling units. Practical nursing care may be provided, as
well as recreational programs and facilities."
Mr. McDonagh asked that the Commission work through if these units are in and of themselves
dwelling units, and that they look at the definition of "dwelling unit."
"Dwelling unit" means a building or portion thereof providing complete housekeeping
facilities for one family "Dwelling unit" does not include motel, tourist court, rooming
house, or tourist home.
BCD position on this matter is that since each ofthese individual rooms in the proposed facility
will either be studio apartments or one-bedroom facilities, each will have a shower and a .
bathroom, a refrigerator, probably a sink and perhaps a microwave. They won't have an oven or
range or washer/dryer facility in any of them. Mr. McDonagh said not having any of those
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facilities means they don't have a full housekeeping unit; they can't function independently on
their own for someone to live in, and, therefore, don't constitute "dwelling units."
Mr. McDonagh said he was shifting gears a bit, and he introduced for the record issues ofthe
SEP A checklist.
~ Issue 3: The SEP A checklist was not signed by the applicant when it was submitted. He entered
as Exhibit M the last page of the SEPA,checklist signed by the applicant's agents, dated and
signed the same day it was submitted, June 9, 2000.
Mr. McDonagh said when you look at the definition of what a congregate care facility is and
you look at the definition of what a "dwelling unit" is, it is clear that the individual rooms within the
facility don't function like your house or my house does. This type of facility is a conditioned
permitted use within the R-II zone. Congregate facilities aren't built and constructed in a series of
four-plexes; they don't function that way. Ifthe zoning code had sought to expressly prohibit these
types of facilities within the R-II zone, the Land Use Table would not have had a "c" in the column
next to congregate care facilities; it would have had an "X " indicating they were prohibited.
~ Issue 5: Permitting of this facility within the R-II zone. (Mr. McDonagh said this is the first one
under the current zoning they have had within the R-II zone.) The appellant has some fears;
permitting this one opens the door and sets some precedence for others to come in anywhere in
town.
BCD response is that it will still require a conditional use permit and each proposal would need
to be judged on its own merit and need to demonstrate compliance with the conditional use
criteria, the chief one being ensuring it is compatible with its surrounding neighborhoods, that it
is not going to produce some sort of adverse, injurious impact on its neighbors.
Mr. McDonagh said Staff is recommending denial of the SEP A Appeal and approval of the
congregate care facility, set forth fairly clearly and succinctly in the Findings of Fact in the SEP A
reVIew.
He discussed the merits of the project, pointing out:
~ It is approximately 12.2 acres in size, located north ofF Street, south of Tremont Avenue, east
of San Juan Avenue and west of Cherry Street.
~ The building is nearly an H-shaped structure, approximately 28 feet in height (the height for the
zone is 30 feet), and would be served by an individual road approach with separated driveway,
approximately 680 feet in length.
~ Each facility would have individual showers, bathrooms in either studio or one-bedroom
apartments.
~ Since the time of submittal the applicant has held its own community meeting and met with
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members in the surrounding neighborhood, as well as BCD, on a couple of occasions to ensure
that the project would be as compatible as possible.
~ A couple of changes have since been submitted. This building itself has shifted on the property
to take advantage of the sort of topographic depression. The surrounding topography, especially
to the west, to the north and to the south is left largely intact. Only the upper portions of the
structure would be visible from those locations.
~ To the east it looks down on the project; the landscaping plan has not been finalized, but BCD
would ensure that screening would be provided both close to the property line and close to the
building to try to maximize screening potential.
~ Revised since it was submitted, a reflection of how the applicant responded to community needs.
The site is broken up into residential size units, the east and west particularly modulated and
articulated to have portions brought out and others recessed.
~ A larger, more formal sort of driveway, a proposed tree-lined boulevard, covered turnaround
"Porte Cochere " are aspects of the project which have been removed. The scale has been
reduced down toa more pedestrian level and residential scale.
Mr. McDonagh said the Findings of Facts he has prepared for the Planning Commission
highlight how this project would meet the Conditional Use Permit itself. He distributed copies of
Exhibit N, Conditional Use Permit Approval Criteria prepared for Port Townsend Assisted Living,
and stated this was part of the original application and should have been included in Commission
packets. He highlighted some of the applicant's analysis ofthe conditional use permit criteria and
asked that the Planning Commission evaluate this project against and summarize how BCD feels the
project meets these conditional uses:
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CUP CRITERIA A:
~ The conditional use is harmonious and appropriate in design, character and appearance with
the existing or intended character and quality of development of the immediate vicinity of the
subject property and with the physical characteristics of the subject property? He said the intent
of this criterion, and is the real crux of most conditional uses, is to ensure compatibility. Will
this fit in the area and not cause undue harm to surrounding neighbors? Whenever you look at
that you want to look at the surrounding development character where it is proposed. Happy
Valley, as informally known, contains a mix of large, undeveloped parcels, some small scale
commercial farming. (City Attorney Watts asked that Mr. McDonagh identify the areas he points
to on the charts.) Mr. McDonagh concurred and identified the area as Collinwood Farms just
north of F Street and west of the project boulevard stating it has a few scattered agricultural
buildings, largely dominated by community oriented agriculture. To the north and west of the
project are a couple of larger structures in an R-III zone: 1) San Juan Commons, government
assisted housing, and 2) San Juan Court, an Altzheimers facility. To the east of the property, is a
large 9 acre vacant piece of property interspersed between the project site and single family
homes that lie beyond it. There is a separation of about 450 to 500 feet between the building
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and those single family homes. There are also single family homes to the north on Tremont
Street; to the south is the golf course.
Aspects of how BCD feels this can fit in:
~ An important aspect -- the site is gently rolling with a sort of depression area more closely
aligned with the center ofthe property. There is not significant elevation there, approximately 6
feet elevation difference. One of BCD conditions is that the applicant provide them a
topographic survey to ensure where they are now and that where they are going to be afterwards
doesn't alter significantly.
~ The building would have horizontal lap siding. Being twò stories, the siding would be of
different colors and widths. It will have trim board; cedar shake siding will be added for accent.
Some proposed colors for the building are beige, a soft yellow and forest green. None ofthose
colors are finalized. Upon completion of the CUP review, if approved it would still have to
undergo final multi-family design review with BCD.
Changes the applicant has made:
~ Relocating the structure to the center;
~ Removal of the covered turn-around;
~ Revisions to the access road to remove the divided boulevard appearance;
~ Bringing some of the landscaping closer in to the building to try to screen it more effectively
from adjoining properties;
~ Revisions to the east and west facade;
~ Revision to the lighting plan. Originally there were 12 light poles proposed in the parking lot
and now two; lights around the building would be bollard lighting 3 feet in height, rather than
wall mounted lights.
A key component in terms of compatibility ofthis 74-unit project on the southern 6 acres, is
the open space preserved in perpetuity by one of two methods that are explained in the Findings
and Conclusions. The remaining 6 acres of open space could no longer be developed in an R-II
density; it would need to stay that way for good. Staff is emphasizing this key aspect in viewing
compatibility of this project; if it weren't for this aspect, he did not think they would have been
able to support it.
CUP CRITERIA B:
~ The Conditional use will be served by adequate public facilities including streets, fire protection,
water, sanitary sewer, and storm water control. Each of these public facilities is being provided
for and met by the proposal. Water will be connected to via a Francis Street right-of-way on San
Juan Avenue. Sewer will be connected to the existing city line that runs along the west of the
property, essentially. Fire protection -- a project of this size that exceeds 50 bedrooms or 50
units would require a secondary means of access. The first means of access would be via the
driveway; the second access would be provided with the multi-use trail that the applicant would
construct from F Street north to Tremont Street. The trail would be paved to fire access
standards and would provide the Fire Department with the secondary access they would need.
As part of the engineering design standards review, the Fire Department would have opportunity
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to indicate the location of hydrants around the facility. Storm water control-- the applicant has
also submitted a preliminary drainage plan that would capture, collect, treat and disperse storm
water on the site via oil/water separators and infiltration trenches. The public facilities aspect of
the conditional use permit criteria is actually met fairly easily by the proposal.
CUP CRITERIA C: .
~ The conditional use will not be materially detrimental to uses or property in the immediate
vicinity of the subject parcel. This gets back somewhat to the compatibility issue. The project
includes preservation of significant portions, over half of the 12-acre piece. Th project finally
has to go through the multi-family design standards review conducted by BCD. BCD has already
done a fair amount of preliminary review with the project and feel they are very close to having
the standards they would want for the project in terms of its esthetic character and landscaping.
CUP CRITERIA D:
~ The conditional use has merit and value for the community as a whole. BCD feels that by
serving the residential needs for the elderly in a dignified, compassionate and supportive manor,
the community as a whole will benefit. Preservation of open space and establishment ofthe non-
motorized trail will also benefit the community.
CUP CRITERIA E:
~ The conditional use is consistent with the goals and policies of the Port Townsend
Comprehensive Plan. This comprises a large section of Findings of Fact and Conclusions, but
the primary elements deal with land use, housing, and the Non-Motorized Transportation Plan.
Mr. McDonagh said regarding being designated and remaining open space, this was designated
as potential open space in the Comprehensive Plan and never formalized as a permanent open
space. It was clear in the Comprehensive Plan it was set out as a conceptualized type of tool;
there were a number oftools that were to be examined and utilized to look at these broad areas
identified on the land use map and how they might go about acquiring them. Since that potential
park and open space was not formalized by actually making it permanent open space, the
underlying comprehensive plan zone for the property is residential-- the goals and policies ofthe
land use element and housing element and Non-Motorized Plan support the project.
CUP CRITERIA F:
~ The conditional use complies with all other applicable criteria and standards of the Port
Townsend Municipal Code. The application meets the bulk, dimensional and set back
requirements of the underlying zoning district. Mr. McDonagh said they are hoping the Planning
Commission concurs with Staff s recommendation regarding the SEP A appeal that this does not
constitute more than four dwelling units in one structure. The project will be required to meet
the city's engineering design standards for its connections for sewer and water and provisions of
fire services and sanitary storm water control. The project will undergo a final multi-family
development design review.
CUP CRITERIA G:
~ That the public interest suffers no substantial detrimental effect. Consideration shall be given to
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the cumulative impact of similar actions in the area. Staff s contention is that the public interest
will suffer no substantial detrimental effect with the approval of the proposed conditional use.
The project will provide decent and dignified housing for a segment of the city's population that
has a special need. In doing so, a large portion of urban, open space is permanently preserved,
and a non-motorized transportation facility for use by the general public is expanded. Impacts to
the surrounding lands are minimized through the use of multi-family design. Regarding the
cumulative impacts in the area, Mr. McDonagh said, as he discussed earlier with the appellants
of the SEP A appeal, similar actions or proposals in the R - II zone would have to be evaluated and
judged on their own merits. Each of them would need to demonstrate compliance with the
criteria just highlighted.
Mr. McDonagh noted that in essence BCD feels this is a good project.
2. Developer Presentation on SEP A Appeal and Conditional Use Permit
Mr. Rick Sepler, Madrona Planning, 1256 Lawrence Street, Port Townsend
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Mr. Rick Sepler, Madrona Planning, pointed out they are land use planners representing the
project. He stated their presentation would involve a variety of individuals with specific expertise in
different aspects ofthe project starting with the project proponent, Mr. Bill Fronk:
~ Mr. William Fronk, Project Manager -- Background on the proponent; other projects done
elsewhere; project genesis and description; need in the community for this kind of facility.
~ Mr. Dave Ruggles, Project Architect -- Design; problematic specifics of the project; site
proposals
~ Mr. Rich Sepler, Madrona Planning, Land Use Planner -- Response to conditional use
requirements
~ Ms. Ande Grahn, Madrona Planning -- Specific responses to issues and conditions contained in
the Staff Report
~ Mr. Phil Olbrechts, Attorney -- SEP A appeal
Mr. Sepler said they believed the Staffhas done a thoughtful and good job in reviewing this
project. They support the Staff Recommendation, albeit with two minor exceptions they will give
during their presentation.
Mr. William Fronk, 4610 N.E. 77th Avenue, #100, Vancouver WA
Representing the Development Group -- a second generation company based out of V ancouver,
Washington. He said they are involved in a variety of development, including single family, multi:-
family, commercial, and senior housing.
Regarding senior housing, which they are presenting this evening and assisted living, they have a
variety of assisted living facilities throughout the northwest. The current resident average age is 84
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years. Out of 450 rooms they have one resident that drives; they provide a bus to their residents to
bring them to community activities and wherever they shall or need to go.
They have very neat rooms with common kitchen facilities in the main core of the building. A
small under-the-shelf refrigerator is provided to residents so they will be able to store a late-night
snack or something, and a small microwave so they can warm that snack. Other than that, there is
basically a bed, a bath and a small sink in those facilities.
Market demand in the area for this type of service: there has been extensive background research
conducted on this project determining the need of the community. They currently show over a 283-
room demand within this trade area; 189 Medicaid units and 94 private pay units. The existing
supply in town is 39 rooms, leaving a shortage of 244 rooms currently, not accounting for the
boomers coming through and the influx of senior citizens into Port Townsend.
He presented a letter of support from the Port Townsend Family Physicians Group indicating the
strong need for this project. The letter was entered as Exhibit O. Mr. Fronk reported that as further
evidence of need, they had been contacted by individuals in the community, including Ian Keith who
would like to locate his parents up from San Francisco both of whom Mr. Fronk believed to be 84
years old. He suggested this is another criteria to look at, what they call the adult trail of children
within the trade area, those children being between 45 to 64 years of age. He said they often found
they try to bring their parents as close as they possibly can to them when they get up into their older
years; that profile has a strong representation in the Port Townsend community as well. 1h:ylme
worked hard with the community throughout this process, having had a number of voluntary
meetings with neighbors, the community and city trying to incorporate all the ideas and concepts into
their site, to make it as beneficial and complimentary to the existing senior housing project and
Altzheimers facility nearby to the northwest. He said they believe strongly it is a good project, and
that it will serve the needs ofthe community. He thanked the Commission for their time.
Mr. David Ruggles, Architect, Progressive Consultants, Vancouver W A
Mr. Ruggles stated that his firm has done the preliminary site and building design for the
proposed project. He gave an overview of how they approached the site design.
The total parcel is approximately 12.2 acres which bottlenecks down to the south as it approaches
F Street. The developer has chosen to only develop on the southern 6 acres of the parcel leaving the
northern 6 acres undeveloped in a natural state and preserved. This is a very significant, positive
aspect of this proposal, and he said he did not want to understate it.
In locating the building, they have found the lowest and flattest spot of the southern 6 acres to
accomplish: 1) greatly minimizing the amount of on site grading and filling that would be required
for general construction to the site; 2) minimizing the visual impact of this project to the surrounding
parcels as it will sit lower, as described earlier, than the surrounding properties. On the southern
portion of the site, they have pushed the building as far as they can the south, again to minimize the
visual impact to the residents along Cherry Street. He said they know their view into the field is very
important, and they want to preserve that.
He pointed out a larger drawing of the developed site showing the parking area and facility
entrance at the southern portion of the building, the recycling area located at the eastern end of the
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parking lot, screened by a 6 foot wooden fence to minimize the visual impact to the neighbors to the
east. He noted they had a much more formal entrance drive in the first proposals, a boulevarded
entrance with a center planting strip, rather rigidly planted trees marching up toward the building
entrance. He said due to some very thoughtful comments received at their neighborhood meeting a
couple of months earlier, they have removed that and have incorporated a much less formal
meandering approach driveway with a much less formal landscape plan to fit into the existing
context.
They have also greatly reduced the amount of lighting on the site and on the building, again due
to comments they received at their neighborhood meeting. They eliminated all lights on the building
other than at the entrance just for security reasons of night shift employees coming and going. They
revised the lighting at the parking lot to have enough for security reasons. There will be a small
amount of bollard, low 3' to 4' high, lights that will be distributed throughout the pathway, on a
timing or a sensor device so at night they will be shut off. He said they know the nighttime sky view
in this area is very important, so they wanted to preserve that vièw.
Stormwater from the driveway and parking lot will be carried around the building on the west
side, filtered though either a cleansing device or a biofiltration swale and be distributed, and
percolated back into the soil through dry wells. The roof water will be taken directly into dry wells
and distributed in the back waters.
The main focus ofthe building design itself is to have the building fit into the R-II zone. The
building is designed to break up the overall mass into smaller, residential size pieces using exterior
treatments such as horizontal lap siding they feel will make the building very compatible in this
environment.
Mr. Ruggles showed proposed elevations noting the horizontal lap siding in differing
complimentary colors based on the historical color chart of Port Townsend. Elements that again give
a residential character, such as shutters on the windows, a double hung appearance of the window
grids, all serve to give the building a residential flavor in respect to the R-II zone and have the
building fit very comfortably in this environment. They have added other things like trellises at the
corners of the building planted with flowering vines of some type to soften the building, bringing it
down in scale and fitting comfortably in its environment.
The rather large, bulky Porte Cochere that covered the facility entrance and extended out over the
vehicular drop off was removed due to comments received at their neighborhood meeting. It has
been replaced with a simple one-story type front porch to give the building a residential feel and
bring the building down in scale at the entry, trying to fit the building comfortably into the exiS:ing
environment.
They feel the facility will be very compatible with the surrounding environment and will be a
complimentary facility to the community as a whole. Mr. Ruggles submitted the boards into the
record which were entered as Revised Landscaping and Site Plan, Exhibit P; and Revised Colored
Elevations, Exhibit Q.
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Mr. Sepler said he thinks Mr. McDonagh has done a fine job of summarizing the criteria on
which the project will be evaluated. He reminded the Commission that conditional use does not
mean it is outright denied or outright permitted; it is taken on a case-by-case basis. He said the
burden associated with this project is to demonstrate that not only do they meet the criteria, but
exceed them, there is some net benefit for the community, that it does provide a likelihood of
success. He said they feel the project as proposed achieves that, and he focused on two specific areas
he feels are pivotal in reviewìng this project:
~ Harmonious and appropriate design and character of the proiect. He said a great amount of
sensitivity and time have been spent in trying to site this facility in a manner that is
complimentary to surrounding properties and reduces impacts. In their community meetings they
conducted to get feedback, many people noted concern with the case in project and the San Juan
Commons senior housing. He referred to the exhibit that basically shows the view from Cherry
Street looking down on the facades; he said the top one in grey is the San Juan Commons senior
housing facade as it is viewed from Cherry Street. He also showed the facade ofthe proposed
project to give a relative idea on how the scale is viewed. Another point of note is that
significant Iimdscaping has been provided in the landscape plan of mature size to provide
screening. In addition, this site benefits from topographic variation of the slope itselfwhich will
serve to modify impacts, site view impacts. That is also addressed by siting the building closest
to the road. One very important thing to note, open space is an important characteristic of the
site; the proponent of the site has wished to maintain it, not just for the surrounding area, but for
the future residents of this projects as this provides benefit to all. Mr. Sepler said they would like
to see the center of that valley remain undisturbed for the future.
~ Public Interest: He mentioned the objection that this project should cause the substantial
detrimental effect to the public interest. He said they have not noted tonight what the alternative
to a project like this would be. He reminded that zoning would allow 106 single family homes to
go into this area,·these 12 acres, and those single family homes after subdivision would be by
right without landscaping specifically, without design criteria and without preservation likely of
the open space. He said they feel in viewing this project, one of the key points is that it is
planned -- you know what the outcomes would be; it provides predictability for the future. It
would preserve the open space in a manner that could not be afforded and protect the public
interest through any other means.
Ms. Ande Grahn, Madrona Planning
Ms. Grahn referred to two minor issues:
~ Condition added about roof lines -- flat roof lines and roof pitches, to be addressed through
multi-family review. She noted that flat roofs are not always consistent with residential
character; flat roofs tend to look more industrial and multi-family. She asked that the reference
to flatter roofs be removed, that they would rather see the roofs pìtched as they proposed them ìn
these drawings.
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service will be provided by the regional trail, ". . .secondary access for emergency vehicles will
be provided from Tremont Street along the regional trail. . ." requiring that they increase the
width ofthe regional trail to II feet. The Staff Report also noted that it is a requirement to pave
that trail. She said it is not a Fire Department requirement for emergency vehicle access that the
access be paved, just that it be provided at an 11 foot width. They have agreed to continue to
develop through the street development process in determining the surfacing for the trail; they
believe there are some good arguments, and that the users of the trail have some arguments
against paving. She said they would rather see that worked out through the street development
process as opposed to being prescribed. They would like the Planning Commission and Staff to
note the error, in fact, that indeed the Public Works Department sets paving standards for roads
and trails; the Fire Department just sets the width. She suggested emergency service access
could be provided the other way.
Mr. Randall noted the comparison chart presented by Mr. Sepler is being entered into the
record as ExhibitR -- Comparison between San Juan Commons vs. P.T. AssistedLiving, and that
Mr. Olbrechts would be entering Exhibit S into the record.
Mr. Phil Olbrechts, Seattle W A, Attorney for the Developer
Mr. Olbrechts said he is a former resident of the peninsula and is a land use attorney representing
about nine municipalities as well as vat:ious other land use clients. He stated he is here to address the
SEP A Appeal and thinks Staff has done an excellent job in summarizing the law on the issues and
that he might be a little redundant. He made the following points:
~ Criteria for a SEP A Appeal. He suggested that lost in the process is, What exactly are you
looking to determine? -- if it is correct or not correct. The decision before the Commission today
is the decision to issue a Mitigated Determination of Non-Significance (MDNS). He said the
SEP A Responsible Official has determined that an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) is not
necessary for this project if certain conditions are met. By appealing this decision the appellant
is basically saying they don't agree with the decision and they feel an EIS should have been
issued or the alternative is saying other conditions should have been imposed. Those are the only
two alternatives available when you appeal an MDNS. He told the Commission their job is to
determine if that decision is correct; the criteria for determining that: does the project create
probable significant environmental impacts. That is what it is all about, and is all it boils down
to in the SEP A appeal -- does this project create that? He said if you have ever seen a SEP A
appeal before, it is usually all sorts of assertions about impact -- it's creating a lot traffic; creating·
stormwater runoff that is going to flood my property; it's a big ugly building, I don't like it -- that
kind of thing. He asked them to note in this SEP A appeal there are no environmental impacts
identified anywhere. The sole basis ofthe appeal is that it violates the code; violating the code
does not automatically mean you have a problem with significant adverse impact. So, there is a
slight problem there; there is nòthing wrong with raising that issue, but not in the context of a
SEP A appeal, that is really in context of your conditional use permit review, and that is really
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where you should look at it. He said, just because he is a lawyer, he has to make these kinds of
objections for the record. Since the appeal doesn't list any environmental impacts, it is not
appropriate to bring those up at this late date; because, your code says you have to list the basis
of your appeal on your written document. He said that hasn't been done here, so on its face that
SEPA appeal just doesn't fly.
~ Dwelling unit issue: -- a central part of the SEP A Appeal. One of the primary issues with this
project is esthetics, the way it looks. Esthetics is really a touchy issue in the State of
Washington. The State Supreme Court has basically said they are not even sure if esthetics is the
proper basis for aregulation, actually; although most cities, your city included, has design review
guidelines. He said he thinks they are all taking a risk in using those. Also the State Supreme
Court says if you have a problem with esthetics, you will have to have very specific guidelines to
regulate them. So, it is not enough to say we don't like the way this building looks; an EIS
should be required. It doesn't work that way; for one thing, what in the world did the EIS review
in terms of esthetics? but, another what are your specific guidelines? He said, in fact, we do have
some specific guidelines -- the multi-family design guidelines which the project applicant is
voluntarily agreeing to comply with (It is really debatable whether this qualifies as a multi- family
project.), but they are, and he thinks compliance with that basically addresses the esthetic
concerns. You can't go beyond that and say in terms of an environmental review, this requires
an EIS because it is too large a building. He said he really doesn't see how you could do that,
and he thinks that is what some people have in mind.
~ Density issue: Regarding a code violation itself, he said that is really not a SEP A appeal issue,
but conditional use permit process does say in one criterion that you have to comply with the
code. He said they need to address that important issue; what the SEP A appellant is saying is
that this building contains more than four dwelling units and therefore it is prohibited. As Staff
very well explained, these are not dwelling units. The code very explicitly defines a dwelling
unit as having a complete housekeeping facility. The testimony before the Commission today is
that these little bedrooms in this unit are going to have small a undercounter refrigerator, not a
two-door j~b, a small microwave and a sink -- that is it. He said that certainly is not a complete
housekeeping facility by any stretch of the imagination. He noticed there was a letter in the
record that talked about not intending for these multi-family units to be in the district when they
wrote this ordinance or whatever (apparently someone who had been involved in the process).
The courts are very clear that if you have plain language in your statute that requires something,
you don't look at legislative intent; if you can figure out what you are supposed to do from the
code, and there is no ambiguity, the inquiry stops there. He said he thinks it is important for
everyone in the land use process to have a land use code that is easy to understand, that you will
be able to look at it and say this is what you need to be able to do, or don't need to do. Citizens
and everyone else who come to your community should not have to guess what the legislative
intent was 3 years ago. It should be there in the code, and it is in this case. There is no room for
argument there when you talk about a complete housing facility. He said in the document he
gave to the Commission he cited a Washington case (there has only been one) that dealt with the
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issue of what constitutes a dwelling unit. It was a kind of case similar to this, where the Meany
Hotel in downtown Seattle wanted to convert from a hotel to a home for the retired. The City of
Seattle said they could not do that because they qualified as a residential building, and therefore
they need to have all these big side yards; they have to have a lot of space around their building if
they are going to turn into a residential building, and the reason why they are turning into a
residential building is because they have dwelling units. The court looked at the definition of
dwelling units in Seattle, and said you have to,have kitchens in these rooms in order to qualify as
dwelling units -- it was a home for the retired and they didn't have any housekeeping facilities,
didn't qualify. He pointed out that you have a very similar issue here; kitchen -- housekeeping,
what is the difference between them? He said there is no case in Washington State about what a
housekeeping facility is. He actually found something in Kentucky where there was a group
home, basically for 20 nurses that shared a kitchen facility; the whole thing only qualified as one
housekeeping unit, because the individual rooms didn't have kitchens. It came back to the issue
of kitchens again. He said this makes a lot of sense; if you have a house with three bathrooms,
you are not going to say it has three dwelling units and is subject to a denseI requirement and all
sorts of things. You have to look at whether they are self-sustaining units. What makes a unit
self-sustaining is the kitchen itself. He asserted there are not kitchens in these units; so in the
plain meaning in your code, therefore, these are not dwelling units and the four-dwelling rule
does not apply.
~ Mr. Olbrechts said the density issue is almost a non-issue for you; they just had to preserve it in
case the issue came up later on, or the conditions got changed, etc. Staff is saying this building
does not have dwelling units, but for purposes of density, which requires X space per number of
dwelling units, they are dwelling units. He said the proponent is saying you have to be
consistent, if you are saying they are dwelling units within the building, dwelling unit also
applies to the density which is only one dwelling unit for purposes of density and there are no
density requirements that apply. He said for their project it is a non-issue, because Staffhas said
you can call it density anyway because you are dedicating all this open space -- there are 12 acres
here; so you comply. The project's applicants want to have that open space preserved; it makes
the whole facility much nicer, much nicer for people using it to have dinner or lunch overlooking
the wetland, etc. Nobody has a problem with that right now, he said he just had to preserve that
for the record.
3. Appellant Presentation on SEP A Appeal (only)
Ms. Colette Kostelec, Appellant, 540 Benton Street, Port Townsend W A
Ms. Kostelec stated that she is a registered Civil Engineer in the State of Washington and runs
her own consulting engineering business in Port Townsend.
She said she personally doesn't have anything against congregate care facilities in Port
Townsend, and this facility in particular. The real basis of her appeal is on ensuring consistency in
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the application of city codes. She said she thinks that is just critical, that all of the citizens of Port
Townsend deserve to know that City Staff are applying our codes unifonnly and fairly for all of the
development projects that come in.
She started her presentation referring to BCD Randall's memorandum of September 21,2000
addressed to the Planning Commission, Conclusions on Page 4 as to why the Commission should
deny her appeal. She said she felt it is pretty clear, but her appeal was based on the fact she believes
the bulk and dimensional requirements in the R-II zone do apply to congregate care facilities and
could have been applied to this project in particular in that there are significant environmental
impacts with not adhering to our codes in the review of the project, and that does set a precedent
which is required by SEP A review. Looking at the Conclusions on Page 4 ofthe aforementioned
memorandum, Mr. Randall concludes the Commission should deny the SEP A appeal for the
following reasons and she added her comments:
1. Congregate care facilities are listed as conditionallv permitted uses in the R-II zoning district.
She has never denied that congregate facilities are a conditional use in the R-II zoning district.
She also thought it helpful to look at what a conditional use is, and the definition of a conditional
use -- special degrees of control are needed in order to ensure that the development is consistent
and compatible with the underlying zoning. As opposed to an outright permitted use, it is
recognized that these uses have something about them that make the need to apply special
controls to ensure that compatibility. She reiterated she had never argued that they were a
conditionally permitted use in the R-II zone.
2. The proposed congregate care facility is consistent with the definition of such facilities
contained in the zoning code. She did not deny this either; she thinks this facility is a congregate
care facility as defined by the Port Townsend Municipal Code (PTMC). She did say that the
PTMC definition for congregate care facilities, besides justa single building, also includes the
option of a complex of dwellings, that someone did consider that congregate care facilities could
be located, not just in a single building but in a group setting of buildings. She said she would
argue, in this case, that would be more compatible and consistent with the underlying R-II
zoning, and that should have been a condition applied to this development through the SEP A
review. Shesaid she did not deny it meets the definition of the facility, but she feels this facility
would meet the definition of a congregate care facility that was more appropriate in the R-III and
R-IV zone; a congregate care facility split up into a complex of dwellings would be more
appropriate in an R - II zone.
3. That either the limitation' upon 4 dwelling units in a single structure contained in
PTMC17.16.030 is applicable to congregate care facilities or that the units in this particular
congregate care facility do .not equate to "dwelling units" as defined bv the zoning code. I)
Regarding limitation upon 4 dwelling units in a single structure. . . applicable to congregate care
facilities: She didn't think the City had presented any specific section ofthe code that exempts
congregate care facilities ITom the bulk and dimensional requirement, namely the number of
dwelling units allowed in a structure in an R-II zone. She referred to a section of the code that
she said clearly exempts a specific use from a specific bulk and dimensional requirement and
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asked the CO,mmission to compare that to the bulk and dimensional tables for our R-II zones so
they would see that there is no specific, clear, unambiguous exemption of congregate care
facilities to those bulk and dimensional requirements. She handed out tables that were entered
into the record as Exhibit T. She said on the back page of the first table, Bulk and Dimensional
Table for C-I and C-II/MU Zones, the footnote to the table specifically exempts storage areas
from the bulk and dimensional requirement, listed above, of a maximum of any individual
leasable commercial space in that zone, which is an indication of how easy it is to identify
exemptions to bulk and dimensional requirements. If you look at Table 17.16.030, you do not
see any sort of exemption of congregate facilities, either in the text or in the table. She said she
did believe the limitation on 4 dwelling units per structure applies to congregate care facilities.
2) Are these dwelling units as defined by the code? She thinks you have to ask yourself if a
person can live in one of these units and never make use of common dining areas and laundry
facilities, if the person chose to eat, sleep, bath, wash in one of these units. With a refrigerator; a
cooking appliance, mainly a microwave; she assumed electrical receptacles; sink; bathroom --
she believed the answer to be, "yes." She said she had lived in plenty of these units that never
had washer and dryer facilities and still considered herself to be living in a dwelling unit. She
said again for consistency she would like to share a memorandum, a Staff Report prepared by
Jeff Randall in 1997 for the addition ofthree units for the assisted living facility on Discovery
Road. She said the facility was permitted under the old code, so she went back to see whether or
not the definition of dwelling unit had changed with the adoption ofthe comprehensive plan and
new code; it had not, it is the exact same definition. Back in 1997, Mr. Randall referred to the
addition of three dwelling units to this facility; further down he says, ". . .The facility is designed
to allow residents to live a relatively independent life without the strict institutional requirements
of nursing home care. All apartments will be provided with a kitchenette and private bathroom. .
." She said she thinks they are striving for consistency, and hope for consistency when each new
applicant comes to the city with similar projects. She highlighted Mr. Randall's comments on
the back, ". . . Dwelling units and density, one ofthe more controversial issues involved in any
development application. . ." She said she would agree with that and would suggest that it is
made only more controversial by inconsistent application of the same codes to similar
developments.
She reiterated the idea that bulk and dimensional requirements don't apply because there is no
limit on number of units allowed in these buildings; she agreed that the only thing limiting the
number of units in a congregate care facility is the underlying base density, in this case 8 units per
acre, in the size of your parcel. She suggested it is not consistent to say that we are well within the
limits of the allowable density of units in this structure, because we only have 74, and then to say
these aren't dwelling units for the purposes of applying our bulk and dimensional requirement
criteria. There is an inconsistency there.
That her appeal is not well-founded on SEP A issues, she said she suggested in her appeal, and
she maintains now, that there are significant adverse environmental impacts associated with
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approving a development that is in direct contravention of our bulk and dimensional requirements,
and that sets a precedent for future development in any R-II zone ofthis type of development, that
SEP A does require a review of precedents set by a development like this. She said she thinks her
appeal does have merits based on SEP A.
She concluded by saying again that she really does not have a problem with the congregate care
facility being located on this site in Port Townsend, and feels that since the site is zoned R-II, that it
is more appropriate for this congregate care facility to be designed as a complex of dwellings, which
she imagined these very professional planners could do quite nicely in the R~ II zone. Otherwise, she
believed the site should be rezoned to R - III multi-family to reflect the nature ofthe development as it
is being proposed.
4. Public Testimony on SEP A Appeal and CUP
At 8:35 p.m. Chair Harbison opened the meeting to hear testimony from the public.
Ms. Katherine Jenks, 635 'u' Street, Port Townsend W A
This is a wonderful opportunity to help our community come to a good conclusion. She noted
that 41 ,000 sqft is 2, 000 feet less than Safeway before it was remodeled. She said to her as a citizen
with personal esthetic issues, she would be affected by having to look at such a large building in a
zone in which the underlying zoning does not permit it.
She spoke of some SEP A environmental issues she would like to raise. She noticed there is new
information; this is an open record hearing, and she said perhaps she is putting some new comments
into the record.
Ms. Jenks turned to a board exhibit and indicated it is shows an Alpine retreat. One ofthe major
points of the presentation from the proponent and Staffwas a requirement of compatibility with the
neighborllood. She said if you look at that drawing, if you were in Bavaria, it would be great. But
the drawing shows a building with no other buildings around them. She claimed this drawing does
not reflect the neighborhood at all; each ofthe drawings shows what looks like mountain peaks and
tall fir trees. She said this is an idealized version of a location and does not reflect the potential for
compatibility. She said she would hope that the Commission consider that these drawings have been
entered for the record -- they are not accurate.
Regarding stormwater Ms. Jenks said this is a SEP A issue, and she begged ignorance that she did
not know how well it had been dealt with in the Staff Report. She said she is just bringing this up as
a citizen with some experience with stormwater in the town, and continued that directly across the
street from this proposed location is the golf course pond. She asserted that the golf course pond is
the major drainage catchment for both sides ofthe hill, F Street down and Discovery Road down.
She said in fact in the 1986 Stormwater Plan from CH2M Hill, it was recommended that as
development occurred on both sides, the stormwater would increase so much to the golf course pond
that it would have to be pumped to Kah Tai Lagoon. She said luckily that Plan was abandoned for a
better system, but, that was basically referring to the impact of increased impervious surface to the
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bottom ofthe basin; that is on the F Street side. On the other side, it is exactly the same elevation as
the golf course pond; it is at the bottom of the hill. If you put a building with increased impervious
surface in the lowest part at the bottom of the hill, you are creating not only the problem of its own
infiltration, but the problem of all the stormwater that is draining down the sides of the hill. Where
is in going to go now that the building is there with its impervious surface? She said she does not
know the answer to that question.
Ms. Jenks said she was on the City Council when they did the comprehensive plan and did this
zoning. At that time she referenced the fact of increased impact to the hospitals ofR-III zoning in
congregate Care and assisted living facilities with elderly people in them. She said that quite honestly
her fellow Councilmembers felt she didn't have a good point, that there was no reason to bring in
that factor with so few assisted living facilities, that it would be an impact to our emergency services,
our ambulances and our hospitals. She said she is a jeweler by profession and has a customer who is
an emergency room nurse; she was at Ms. Jenks' house the other day, and was complaining about
how difficult it is in the emergency room to deal with one elderly patient after another, because there
are so many new elderly patients in town because of these congregate care facilities. She was not
denigrating, she was merely expressing the fact that she felt overworked. As a policy issue, with
your conditional use permits and also with SEP A, she sincerely· requested that they examine impacts
to the health care services of the increased needs of very elderly people, which we understand. Our
hospital which is already under stress is going to be further impacted when you decide on further
permitting of these facilities.
To address the zoning issue, and the underlying zoning of R-IV, she said she heard Mr.
McDonagh say tonight, as Ms. Kostelec said, that there is a microwave, a fridge, a shower and a
bathroom in these studio, or one bedroom units and he used the word ''units,'' not bedrooms. She
said she could live there; she thought she had probably lived in worse, quite frankly. A lot of people
live all the time with a microwave and a fridge, so she would have to agree that to her that would be
a dwelling unit. Earlier tonight Mr. McDonagh also said these would be studio or one-bedroom
apartments, those were the words that were heard on the record at this hearing; he said apartments.
She said an apartment is a dwelling unit; the Staff seems to be having a hard time even accepting
these are bedrooms. She said she thinks the idea of calling a 74-bedroom unit, a 74-bedroom house
is a ludicrous way of getting around this zoning, and she hopes that they do not approve this permit
without further examination, and uphold the appeal.
Ms. Valerie Brewster, 1036 Tremont Street, Port Townsend WA
Ms. Brewster said she was very happy when she heard about this appeal. She had some
questions when she first heard the development group was buying this property; she immediately
thought they would have to get a zoning change, because this is R - II, residential zoning. All along in
that process the answer to her question was that it is a tradeoff between the open space and this
building. She said she was very happy they have the opportunity to examine this issue more closely.
She does not think this issue has anything to do with the great job the development group has
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done in working with the neighbors, as they have testified -- talking with them about the building,
addressing their concerns about lighting, about landscaping. She said she doesn't think it has
anything to do about that, and doesn't have anything to do with the warm, fuzzy feelings they might
have when we hear the words assisted living or thinking this is some kind of great work they are
doing for society by having this.
She thought this all comes down to the fact that this is a big building. When she went to the
development group presentation and saw (as it appeared in the drawing) the elevation she would be
looking at from her house, which has a very unobstructed view of this, her first thought was that it is
huge.
She also pulled up Mr. Sepler's illustration noting that she thinks there must be something
strange going on, that she looks at San Juan Commons all the time; San Juan Commons is 38,750
square feet, a three story building. This project is larger in square footage, 41,000 square feet, and it
is only a two story building. She said it just has to have a bigger footprint than this; this has to be a
high view projected off the wide view. She said that is the only way you can see this tiny, what
appears to be something maybe only less than half the size this of this building; this building is larger
as far as square footage goes. She called that as a question.
The intent of the code says fourplex. All this talk about stoves or refrigerators -- she said it
reminds her of an apartment where she lived in California. Her landlord would drive up with his .
truck and take out her stove and refrigerator when the city came around to inspect the property,
because he wanted to hide the fact he had a mother-in-law apartment. She said there is no hiding -- it
doesn't matter what is going on, whether someone is eating or sleeping. There are people who have
stoves and refrigerators in their apartments and never eat there. So, it is not about that; it's about a
big building. She said she believes the intent of the code doesn't have anything to 40 with whether
people are eating, cooking, using microwaves or using full size ranges; it has to do with the size of
the building. They said fourplex because they meant fourplex scale. They didn't mean 41,000
square feet and possibly up to 55,000 (or 53,000 when they put the additions on this project). She
felt that building has a big environmental impact. She looks at this right now -- when this got built,
she began feeling she lived in an outbuilding of a chateau; now there will be another one and she will
look right at that also. She said earlier someone said the architect broke it into residential size
pieces. She does not see residential size pieces; she sees a big building, and this is not harmonious.
She also said the specter of 100 houses out there at some level is not bad to her. She looks right
at this piece of property, and since 1997 has been trying to preserve it She said if it were all
residential, that might be fine, especially if it we can't keep it preserved.
Finally she wanted to talk about the issue of preservation of open space. The developers earlier
today said they are preserving in perpetuity, this half ofthe property, which sounds really great and
would be a really great thing. She said they need to see that in writing somewhere; we are all having
this happy wish that this is going to be preserved, yet nothing says right now they can't sell that, or
that they can't develop it -- who knows what?
Ms. Brewster said again she thinks the Commission should look very carefully at these issues.
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Mr. Pete VonChristierson, 1229 29th, Port Townsend WA
He expressed thanks for the opportunity to comment, and said SEP A requires that not only the
environmental impacts of a project be analyzed, but the social impacts must also be analyzed. M
V onChristierson said in the checklist report before the Commission items 74 and 75 deal with social
services. He did not believe the fees that would be collected would cover those services. For
example, fees collected-- the project is planned for an assessed value of$2.8 million, multiplied by a
$.50/thousand service fee equals an annual charge of$1 ,400 per year. He referred to Victoria House,
another assisted housing facility up the road a bit, and said to look at their usage of the emergency
system, 911; over the past quarter they have gotten 8 calls (annually that would be 32 calls). He said
if you pro rate that up by the number ofliving units here, versus those in the other assisted housing,
that is 61 calls per year for the larger facility. He went on, dividing the $1,400 city revenue by 61
calls you end with $23/call; that barely covers the .cost of a call let alone anything that goes out to the
site. He said he did not what the total cost would be, probably $200, $300, $400.
The city at that point, and he did not know concerning the county, are losing money. He said the
report says it would be a minor increase; it would not exceed the service capacity that we have now,
and the tax and utility revenue will offset the costs. He said, obviously they are not, and that needs to
be modified, and reviewed again. He continued, we already have a severe problem noted in the
September 20th Leader with our emergency call system, the 911; this would certainly make the
problem more extreme.
Mr. V onChristierson referenced a statement "the highest and best of this site will be open space
for the enjoyment of the entire community." He said many people say dollars indicate that this
particular use would be the "highest and best use." He noted the importance that dollars do not
always represent "highest and best use." A facility will always increase the land value higher than,
for example, a park; if you ask the citizens which is the higher use for them they will always say a
park. He thought the general plan delineates the area as potential open space; it should be open
space -- it's an idyllic area, an open vista for many homes, in the middle ofthe city; it's accessible;
it's an area that should be preserved as open space. He said it is a natural continuation of the Kah
Tai Park and the golf course.
Mr. V onChristierson said originally this was designated as potential open space by real
visionaries; the Commissions at that point and the Council were real visionaries. He said he would
like to see the Planning Commission continue that vision and suggest it to the Council.
Mr. Mitchel Clanton, 1273 Tremont Street, Port Townsend WA
He made the point that San Juan Commons, if anyone has ever gone by there and noticed that the
roof is white, "It is white because of the Sea Gull crap on it, and it stinks." He said, especially if the
place is bigger, he thinks they are asking for another white roof, and he doesn't think it is necessary.
He said he thinks the emergency system is going to be over taxed; we have quite a few facilities
in the area already such as Discovery and Victoria. He stated asking for more elderly to come into
the area is not going to increase our tax revenues but put more or a burden on our community.
Mr. Clanton said we are doing pretty well with what we have right now. That area could be
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served a lot better with maybe a park -- not as another big building.
Ms. Julie McColloch, 1109 Hendricks, Port Townsend W A
She thanked the Planning Commissioners for all their hard work saying she knows they have a
hard job and are called on to make many difficult decisions on behalf of our community. She said
she is speaking tonight in support of the appeaL
Her objective was to call on the Commissioners to make a faithful interpretation of our
comprehensive plan and our zoning code. She reminded that the comprehensive plan was a
community driven document guided by many, many countless hours of public process and input; it
also carries the force oflaw.
Ms. McColloch said this project as with many proposals that come before the city, has elements
to recommend it and elements which create concern. The purpose of our comprehensive plan and
our zoning districts are to create predictability for our residents and property owners; this becomes
especially critical in substantially undeveloped neighborhoods. Although, this facility strives to
provide a much needed service, her primary concern is an apparent reinterpretation ofthe definition
of "dwelling units" in order to permit a facility ofthis size, scale and density in the R-II zone.
She said the purpose of the limitation of four units per structure in the R-II zone is intended
precisely to restrict development of this scale in this zone. She stated her concern that if the city
allows this project to go forward as designed through the use of a new variant interpretation of
dwelling unit, the foot is in door and that we will open Pandora's box of definition-splitting. She
claimed this means we fail to honestly address the impacts of allowing multi-family structures in all
R-II zoned property within the city.
Ms. McCulloch urged that they uphold the appeaL She said if this service and facility is truly
needed, an asset to the city which she believed it is, let us address the impacts honestly and openly
through use of one of the methods in the appeal-- either an issuance of an MDNS, or a remand to the
applicant for reconsideration either with a binding site plan and a PUD, a comprehensive plan
amendment, or a redesign of the facility. She thanked the Commission for their consideration and
wished them good decision making.
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Mr. Ian Keith, 1226 Garfield Street, Port Townsend WA
He spoke to Mr. Fronk saying he is the Ian Keith who recently called him, that it is all true,
except his parents are 88 not 84.
Mr. Keith pointed out that certainly there is a need for this kind of facility here but not in a zone
where it is not called for. He told the proponents their counsel said there is no ambiguity in a
definition of "dwelling unit," and so it stops here. He thought they are seeing there is indeed
ambiguity, and the ambiguity arises out ofthe use ofthe word "complete" in our definition. He said
there is a lot of hair splitting going on; it has come down to what's in the kitchen.
He said, joining in the hair splitting, the Port Townsend Municipal Code (PTMC) definition
simply says "complete." Does that mean, as Mr. Randall contends, it has to have a range, and there
has to be a washer and dryer? He contended, clearly not, because the City has approved an auxiliary
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dwelling unit with exactly what is proposed in these units, i.e., a sink and a microwave in the
kitchen; that is considered a dwelling unit and has been approved and signed off in the city.
Mr. Keith said another way oflooking at this, the Uniform Building Code (UBC) adopted by the
City is more specific. He quoted from 1997 UBC 301.7, Efficiency Dwelling Units, paragraph 3,
"The unit shall be provided with a kitchen sink, cooking appliance and refrigeration facilities each
having clear working space. . ." He said surely a microwave is a cooking appliance; ifthe ICBO that
writes the building code had meant require "range" they would have said "range." They didn't; they
said "cooking appliance."
He said to approach it from another direction (he entered excerpts for WAC 388,110.02 and the
1997 UBC as Exhibits V and W), the applicant intends to operate an assisted living complex. The
closest thing in our code is congregate care, but the applicant will have to operate under state rules
for assisted living. He said references to congregate care were removed from the WACs in 1977,
but in WAC 388.110.02, definitions, paragraph 4, is the statement, "Assisted living services include
housing for the resident in a private apartment-like unit." He declared that is the WAC section under
which this facility would have to operate. He said, "So, enough hair splitting."
He stated that to approach this decision in this way is to ignore the elephant in the living room;
he contended the clear intent of the zoning code and the Use Table is to limit the bulk of buildings in
the R- II zone. Mr. Randall points this out himself in his quote from Planning Commission minutes
at the bottom of the first page of his memorandum of September 21,2000. It suggests there are, "..
.limits on the maximum number of units allowed in a multi-family structure to avoid large, bulky
buildings." He said Mr. Randall makes a point about whether this was a new requirement or an old
requirement, but it seemed it is moot -- it is a requirement. .
Mr. Keith stated he was on committees working on the Comp Plan as it was developed. He was
on the Planning Commission when the Comp Plan came through there, and was on the City Council
when the Comp Plan was adopted, so he has a reasonable amount of background on this.
Congregate care -- the intent was to allow small scale congregate care, up to four units, just as the
table states. He said if the applicant feels it is impractical to operate a congregate care that is broken
up as our definition into a complex of buildings, then the approach should be to ask for a change in
that definition, or a change in the bulk and dimensional -- not to attempt to circumvent the clear
intent of the code by the twisting the definition of dwelling units.
To address the precedent question -- nothing is being said in this CUP application about
specifics, about this site that makes it different from other sites in the R-II zone. Following BCD's
reasoning, any two-block site, of which there are many in the R-II zone, would be an appropriate site
for a 16 unit assisted living complex. He said hè did not think this is what the R - II zone is for, and it
is clearly not what was intended.
He said, finally, to step further back again, he quoted from PTMC 17.84.050, paragraphs a and e,
require that a project "must comply with the goals and policies of the Comp Plan" in order to win
CUP approval. On the land use map, the subject property is R-II zone, overlay with potential parks
and open space. He noted that several people had previously brought this up; the overlay was part of
the vision of this whole district. The same property to the east, where San Juan Commons and the
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Altzheimers Unit are located, was upzoned to R-III with the adjacent space helping to compensate
for that higher density. He suggested they now have to think about cumulative impact; they balanced
the increase of density against open space next to it. Now they ate proposing in what was hoped for
as open space, a use which is more dense (not on a more dense per unit/per acre basis), a higher
impact use than the underlying R-II zoning allows. He said unfortunately Ms. Jenks and he were not
able to win support on the Council for acquisition of this parcel when they had the opportunity, and
of course the underlying R-II zoning does control; however, to allow a use that exceeds the limits of
the R-II zone is moving in the wrong direction.
Mr. Keith urged the Commission ro recommend denial of the CUP application. Denial would
not necessarily be the end of the project; it could proceed as a PUD or as a rezone with a higher level
of scrutiny that it requires. He said to acquiesce in the auspicious reasoning of BCD would be to do
a disservice to the city.
Mr. Ted Shoulberg, 1511 19th Street, #5, Port Townsend WA
He too supports the appellant's position to deny this CUP and remand it for whatever the
Commission has to do with it. He said he doesn't think it needs to be processed at all.
He said his contention is that this Staff could have deemed this application incomplete right up-
front, and none of the community would be going through this agony of these definitional constructs
of hair splitting. He said he did not know why they are here. He feels it is against the Comp Plan,
against all the things many of them worked for in this community when they were on Council and
Planning Commission. He said they knew the legislative intent, although now the lawyer is trying to
say the legislative intent doesn't matter.
Mr. Shoulberg contended it does matter when you have ambiguities as they are trying to point
out; there are ambiguities in this situation -- they are creating the ambiguities. He said to him it is
very clear; he has a masters degree in planning and he is a developer in this town. He said he is one
of the few people who has gotten a rezone in this town in the last 10 years, if not the only one. He
has just finished a self-help housing project under the new codes, and he too would like to see
consistency in the application of these codes. He said it was almost hopeless; we have this array over
here of powerful attorneys, consultants, the Staff, the lawyers -- he asked, "Who speaks for the
public in situations like this? Does the public have to come en masse and plead with you to protect
our community? I don't know where else we can go, but to you. So I am asking for your help in
denying this application."
Ms. Shirley Rudolph, 2137 Washington Street, #16, Port Townsend WA
She said she is one-half of the listing agent on the property. She explained the marketing
background on the property, that when the property came on the market, 2 to 3 years ago, they were
aware that many people wanted to see the property as open space.
She contacted the City. As Mr. Keith mentioned, the City considered at one time trying to do
something, but was not able to; they contacted other entities in the community that would be
interested in the community benefit, and they were not able to. She was contacted by many of the
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neighbors who were concerned about the change in the open field and said she would try to keep that
in mind in anything that came along. She pointed out that these folks from the Development Group
came along, were looking for some property, and she asked them if they would consider putting
some of this property in open space in return for being able to do their project. She had read in the
Leader maybe there would be some consideration for clustering or density in keeping some of the
property in open space. The Development Group responded that they would consider it. They did
consider it and have actually paid more then they expected in order to provide this property as open
space.
She explained she is also a person that has a parent she brought to town; unfortunately that parent
has passed the ability to be able to stay in a facility like this. She said in real estate she runs into
people all the time that are elderly; they are living in their homes -- they are here already. She agreed
there will be a lot that will want to bring their parents here that will require a little bit more burden
on the health facilities.
Ms. Rudolph pointed out, however, that there are many here already, living,.in their individual
homes, that will be needing the care. They are alone; they are needing a facility like this, and they
can't find one to get into. She said she thinks that will alleviate some of the burden on the social and
the medical, because they are scattered over a large distance and a lot of little homes. Being in a
single facility where they are together socially and also in one place close to everything, close to the
hospital, she thinks is a good thing. There is a big need for it since our average population is now
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Mr. Richard Talbot, 540 Benton Street, Port Townsend W A
He noted that at the very beginning Mr. Watts instructed the Planning Commission that for them
to find or make a decision to reverse the MDNS they had to find or observe that the appellant
showed an error had been made by the Responsible Official in making his judgment.
Mr. Talbot said there had been a lot of information in these presentations that talked about the
legislative intent of codes; obviously, there has been a lot of discussion about the shades of meaning
that can be applied to terms like "dwelling units," etc. He said his only concern here is, not to go
back over that, but to suggest to the Commission that they are now faced with a very difficult
decision of what constitutes an error. He said he hated to suggest that either the Staff or these
consultants are incompetent and can't make an interpretation of the code; I think that is
inappropriate. They have looked, and they have made a decision -- is it an error?
He said what he is asking the Commission, having received this instruction from Mr. Watts, is
whether you are clear about how you can make those judgments on the interpretation of codes, the
use of codes; should a code be subject to a simple interpretation by the average person, who does not
have the background of some of these other people? What should we as citizens expect from the
code? He said he is posing this to you, because you were issued this fairly clear instruction; it is not
clear to me how I as an appellant could necessarily define a clear, clean error in judgment on the part
of the SEP A Responsible Official in a case like this on the issues that were discussed. He wished the
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Ms. Catherine Robison, 1070 Tremont Street, Port Townsend W A
She is a neighbor to this property and the proposed project. She said she supports the appellant in
what she has said and agrees with the people who have spoken before herin support ofthe appellant
on this project. She did not want to reiterate any of those things but posed questions she is remaining
with after listening tonight.
One concerns the environmental impact on our services in this community. It has been
mentioned that 911 services are threatened at the moment. She said, granted that could be rectified,
but it could be threatened again at any time. Our hospital services are in difficulty right now; this
kind of facility, these residents will added stresses to those systems. She wants to know what
responsibility the developers of this project, who are the owners of the building and the business,
what responsibility they have to the impact on our community services -- what financial
responsibility? what kind of relational responsibility? what kind of participation do they in have in
increasing, supporting the services we all rely on that are stressed right now and probably will be into
the near future, if not the longer term?
Another thing, it has been mentioned several times by different people -- the approximately 6
acres of open space, that the land is not needed for the project because the density attached to that
land is being used in the cluster in the other 6 acres, that 6 acres will be open space and it will be
open space preserved in perpetuity. She still questioned, how? Nothing has been mentioned of how .
this is going to happen. She asked that they put the condition on this that it be specified, that it is
absolutely clear and irrevocable as part of any agreement you make with this project. She said
without this there is no guarantee that at some later date the zoning of those 6 acres couldn't be
changed, and the density (single family, anything) could be put in that space. She wants assurance
that is open space in perpetuity as they have said, and she wants to know how that is done.
She said her last point of concern is, they are assuring us their business is viable in this
community, that they can make it go in this community. She said they have quoted statistics hIt not
said where those statistics came from, how they derived those numbers -- whether it's based in calls
they have from this community or where it is. But, they have assured us they have a viable business.
All of us know situations of all kinds of businesses that have built buildings, rented property,
assured the community they were viable as a business and then gone bankrupt or had troubles and
had to leave. She declared if that happens in this case, we are left with a 41,000, maybe 55,000,
square foot building that is empty. She referred to San Juan Commons we have already, and said it
is a huge building; next to that an Altzheimers care facility, San Juan Court, that has been on the
property for 1 year and is empty because they do not have people 10 put in that building.
Ms. Robison asked the Commission to consider this very carefully and support the appellant's
appéal on this project.
Chair Harbison called for anyone else speaking and asked that they limit their remarks to
something that has not previously been in testimony.
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Ms. Lori Bernstein, 1300 Pacific Street, Port Townsend W A
Ms. Bernstein said she supports the appeal. She said she was not sure if it would account for
anything or not, but if it does, she has stated it.
Mr. Dana Roberts, 438 - 22nd Street, Port Townsend W A
Mr. Roberts addressed the Chair. He said bearing in mind what the Chair had just said about
adding something new, the very recent comment, with which he heartily concurred, that the need for
solid, permanent commitments assure the carrying out of what is referred to in the August 15th CUP,
his comments. concern only the response to that document, page 5, Section 10.
Mr. Roberts said the comment states, "A key component of the project with regards to
compatibility is the applicant's intent to preserve the northern six acres as open space. . . " He then
asked if the northern six acres go out of open space status or condition, will the conditional use
permit be no longer valid? He said he was reminded of the old maxim, that the road to hell is paved
wÌth good intentions; it seems to him that is all this application carries within it to assure that open
space will be so maintained.
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Ms. Kostelec addressed the Chair arid asked to speak to the Conditional Use Permit. Chair
Harbison granted her permission to speak.
Ms. Collette Kostelec, 540 Benton Street, Port Townsend
Ms. Kostelec said she wished to make it clear on the record she is also speaking against approval
ofthe Conditional Use Permit, because once again, and briefly, she believes the application of the
proposal cannot meet approval criteria fromPTMC 17 .84.050.f -- that conditional use complies with
all other applicable criteria and standards ofthe PTMC. She said it is in direct violation of the bulk
and dimensional standards related to the number of dwelling units in a structure in the R-II zone.
Ms. Jenks requested to speak a second time. Chair Harbison asked City Attorney Watts for
direction. Mr. Watts concluded it would be the decision of the Commission whether or not to allow
second testimony. Chair Harbison again reminded the speakers to limit their comments to new
testimony.
Ms. Katherine Jenks
Ms. Jenks said during testimony she had asked Ms. Rudolph, the listing agent for the property, if
the proponents actually own the property. Ms. Rudolph responded that the transaction is not yet
closed; the proponent does not yet own the property.
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Mr. Ted Shoulberg
Mr. Shoulberg stated that if you find the conditional use application is not valid, or you find
Appellant Kostelec's request to create an environmental impact statement is valid, you can direct the
City Attorney to make Findings of Fact and Conclusions. He said he could remember many times
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sitting on the Council and listening to all the testimony all at once, and not having the correct legal
way to frame the arguments. He explained that you can ask that you substantially find the following.
. . . and please fill in the blanks; you can ask the City Attorney to fill in the blanks. You can get help
on the spot. You don't need to actually craft the legal opinion; you can ask that it be substantially
done by the City Attorney afterward.
Mr. Shoulberg said if you follow the logic of the application, there is no amount of units or non-
units that you can build in a building in an R-II zone. What is the purpose of the zone if it's not to
control the density? He contended by their definitional constructs, you could build 1,000 non-units
in this; the only thing that would stop it is the bulk and dimension requirements. Y sm could keep
going on. There is no way to get hold of this project the way they are describing it and fit it into the
codes. He said as a developer he wants to have consistency; I struggled with it when I went through
my self-help housing project, and I think it is very important for all of us in this town..
At 9:25 p.m. Chair Harbison closed the meeting for testimony from the public. He called for
the applicant to speak in rebuttal, asking them to remember not to introduce new material.
DEVELOPER'S REBUTTAL -- Developer Response on SEP A and CUP
Mr. Phil Olbrechts, Attorney
Mr. Olbrechts said he would be calling up various members oftheirteam to discuss various parts
of the project in response to comments made this evening.
He thinks it is extremely ironic that a lot of people are asking why so much time is being used to
talk about dwelling units, splitting hairs, when the dwelling unit issue is the only thing in the code
that the opponents can find as reason to deny this project. He said, because if that 4 unit per building
doesn't apply to this case, there really isn't anything else you can point to in the covenant; you look
at the conditional use criteria, of course, but he felt we all think this a very well designed project with
lots of open space to buffer the impacts of the bulk and density of this project. He said really it is the
opponents' argument that rests on whether or not density applies here.
Mr. Olbrechts again discussed plain meaning and asked that they use a little common sense this
time that actually sometimes applies in the interpretation of law, whether or not this is really an
obvious term. He called them to think about the project, an assisted living facility. That means
people obviously who need assistance in living can't do it on their own. If you put these people in a
room with a complete housekeeping unit, they are going to have problems -- they can't survive on
their own; they need help. The whole point of an assisted living facility, is that they have common
dining areas and facilities like that, so these people don't have to live on their own. A self-sustaining
unit just isn't necessary for them. The microwaves and the hotel refrigerator are just amenities -- that
is all they are. He said if it takes having a condition saying they can't have microwaves in the units,
they will gladly do that That is just fine -- now we don't have a complete kitchen facility according
to definitions. He said by common sense definition, these aren't complete living units. He repeated
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that is what assisted living is all about. To understand how assisted living operates he called on the
applicant, Bill Fronk to describe what it is like to live in these.
Mr. Bill Fronk, Development Group
He first touched on the discussion of the practicality of breaking this building into a variety of
buildings on site. He said this basically and wholly flies essentially in the face in the concept of
assisted living and congregate care. One of those main concepts is providing care in an interaction
environment with a variety of individuals who interact with i.e., other seniors. If they break up the
building and put only eight seniors in a building, for example, oftentimes about three or four ofthem
will be on their activities; so, you would have only three or four residents at the maximum in any
common area at anyone time. He said there would be a complete lack of interaction, which is one of
the main components in providing care and improving acuity levels in our elderly.
Mr. Fronk said also it would become economically impractical to design assisted living or
congregate care in a broken up format, because, in turn, it would increase the overall costs, thus
increase the overall rates, and assisted living would become unaffordable to the senior citizens of our
community. He thought this is best reflected through a duplication of resources perspective. He
pointed out in their facility they have a bather tub that is quite elaborate, it is over $15,000 just f.o.b.;
many of their residents are unable to provide bathing for themselves. He said it would be completely
impractical to put a bather tub of that nature in all of these structures -- that is just one component.
He also touched on one topic raised, economic viability of the project and where they derived the
numbers they have iterated. He said this is something they have been doing for numerous years, in
which they have a good track record, and they have a lot of independent, third party assessment of
their projects prior to even being introduced. He stated that specifically one of the initial feelers is
community need; people in the community are unable to house their parents here. He thought that
was a good indicator, in and of itself. Their lenders take a very hard look -- they are not going to
lend multi-million dollars to a project which they are not comfortable is going to be viable. He said
MAl appraisers that are nationally recognized assess their markets for them prior to being introduced
into those markets. Theyconduct their own internal analysis to check the basis of the studies the do
receive. They also solicit the services of Marcus Milichap out of of San Diego. CA, who are the
world leaders of senior housing markets; for example, if an REIT, real estate investment trust, wants
to buy an assisted living facility, they go first to check with Marçus Milichap to make sure it is a
viable investment for them. He said, as you can see, they have a variety of mechanisms to make
certain they do have an economically viable service to offer the community.
Regarding impact to the medical community and the hospital, he explained that the mission of
assisted living is to minimize the care required, and in fact reduce the care required through therapy
and full time nursing. He said their facilities have full-time nursing so little and non-catastrophic
events can be handled onsite without having to take them to the hospital; their nurses also provide a
medication and variety of other services. He asked would they be adding to the services? He replied
most ofthe market they are targeting at this time currently lives within Port Townsend. He said they
see the characteristics of the people here today; there is a shortage of over 200 units. He indicated
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these people would either age in place in the house, or they could age in place in this facility. Aging
in place in their house in this town, they are still going to require those same services; they have paid
their taxes for those services over their livelihood in the community. He said, actually, we would
like to think we have reduced the impact to hospital and medical services in the community by
having our assistance and care, and those seniors are no longer living in their house where they fall
down the stairs and break their leg versus having an elevator or a nurse with a wheel chair. He said
they also having problems taking their medications in time, or take the wrong medication, which puts
them in an hospital for a variety of reasons. Their facility has medical disbursement which is part of
the assisted living process, to make sure medication is administered in a proper fashion. In summary
on the impact, he would like to think they actually reduce it.
He said Mr. Olbrechts has touched on the dwelling unit. touched on a topic he is mainly
concerned with. He said he thinks they need to take a practical look at this. Assisted living is for
people basically 85 years or over who have one or more of the daily activities apparently they cannot
do and the need assistance. He asked, could they live in their room? Absolutely not. What would
the life-long spectrum be if they are stuck in a room eating out ofa microwave, for example? He
contended that is not good nutritional health care and is not in the thought of minimizing their
exposure. They need a common area to interact with their other colleagues to see activities -- you
cannot do that by living in your dwelling unit; that would reduce your livelihood. They need ..
assistance often, for example, with bathing; they need to go to a bather tub. They can't do that in
their room. He said he would not like to think of his mother being stuck in a room, eating out of a
microwave, and not being bathed. He does not call that qualify of life.
. Mr. Fronk asked, therefore, could someone live in one of those? Absolutely not. Could they live
in it in the standard they would live in a home which a dwelling unit is made to imply? No they
couldn't live to those standards ifthey live in their home -- they need assistance. He said we need to
take a practical look at that; I do not think we are splitting hairs; I think we are taking a practical look
at it. These are not something someone could live in -- just one component of where they live.
Mr. Olbrechts then called on Mr. Sepler to comment. Chair Harbison reminded Mr. Sepler
this is rebuttal
Mr. Rick Sepler, Madrona Planning
He reminded the Planning Commission that wh~n this was introduced he noted very clearly it
was the view from Cherry Street -- that is the area according to the legal record where they had the
most concerns in terms of view impact. He pointed out the elevation and Cherry Street; he suggested
looking at the maps. He said this is the elevation that faces Cherry Street that is parallel to San Juan
Avenue, and he noted they are both 1/8 inch, and, yes, this building has a longer facade that goes
perpendicular to it. He said they did not try to use smoke mirrors to cover that by any means, and, to
be truthful, when this elevation was significantly smaller they used that back side, because you could
see the end of the building.
Mr. Sepler said he wanted to make another point. This application was not prepared .
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surreptitiously in the middle of the night; this is not some attempt to review the code and find a
loophole that could drive a large building through it. Thoughtful people have reviewed the code and
identified the possibility, and over a process that included numerous opportunities for the public to
participate, identified that this was the likely outcome based on what the code would state. He said,
again, certainly he thinks it was noted that reasonable people can read these rules and come to
different interpretations; however, it is their professional opinion, based on years of experience, that
the interpretation that supports this application would prevail.
Mr. Olbrechts, Attorney
Mr. Olbrechts said he would wrap it up regarding a comment made tonight. A few people talked
about needing some permanent covenants on the open space property to make sure it is never
developed. He pointed out that has been taken care of by Staff. He quoted from Condition e, Page
11 of the CUP Staff Report that the open space would be preserved in one of two ways, ". . .a)
recording an instrument with the Jefferson County Auditor that designates the area as a conservation
easement. The language contained in the recorded instrument must be reviewed and approved by the
BCD Director and City Attorney;" He explained that is going to be something of record; no matter
who that property is sold to, it is still going to be at the Auditor's Office; it's going to prohibit
development, and is going to be subject to the City Attorney's approval. He said when he approves
these things, he always requires that they can't be amended or removed without the city's approval--
so, that is really taken care of. The other way it can be handled, ". . . b) transfer of the property to an
established non-profit land conservation organization approved by the City, such as the Jefferson
County Land Trust." He reiterated he thinks Staffhas done a pretty good job in addressing that one;
he did not think they had to worry about that property turning into a McDonalds any time soon, or
ever.
Concerning comments made about hospital services, 911 services -- he said as a lawyer he would
have to say, impacts on hospitals was not raised as an issue in the written SEP A appeal, so it cannot
be considered in that part of it. He supposed if you can hammer that into the CUP consideration, you
could, although he thought Mr. Fronk has pretty well addressed that issue and established that it is
not going to increase that demand.
Regarding a comment about using the PUD process, for increased scrutiny -- he said if any of
you have been on the Planning Commission for any length of time, he thought you had to
acknowledge that this project has gone through quite a bit of scrutiny, neighborhood scrutiny and
several modifications. He said, again it is a very well designed project -- what in the world would a
PUD process add to that? Nothing -- there is nothing in the PUD that gives it more authority to
reduce the size of the project, and that is the only thing he thought left to regulate in this case.
He addressed concerns about business viability. He asked, what can you do? You can't
guarantee that any business is going to be viable. If that were a condition for zoning, you wouldn't
have much business going on anywhere. He said he thinks here the applicant has shown a very
dililgent effort ensuring this is a good, financially viable product.
Regarding the comment someone made about being ludicrous to think a building this large was
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allowed in this area, he contended that it is ludicrous to think that the city would approve a
congregate care facility but limit it to four bedroom units. They just can't operate that, considering
how Mr. Fronk described what was needed there.
He said, finally the appellant didn't identify any environmental impacts in her presentation; she
just said because it violates the code, it creates adverse environmental impacts. He asked the
Planning Commission, if their decision is to say the Responsible Official decision is wrong and
requires an environmental impact statement, what impacts are they going to assess? They haven't
been identified for you in the SEP A appeal. He said he thinks that is something very lacking there.
Regarding the comment about lack of controls, how can we make sure this is compatible with the
neighborhood if it's not limited to four bedroom units? -- he said the answer is that your conditional
use permit process does require compatibility with the neighborhood, and that really was a driving
force behind all this open space and everything else that was required for this project. If it weren't
for the conditional use conditions, who knows. The open space wouldn't be there. He pointed out,
you do have those controls in place. The whole issue is if you don't think there is enough strength
there, by all means amend your code and make sure that for future projects you have more of what
you want in the code. Right now, the only thing that limits the size is this alleged four-dwelling units
per building. He said that is not there, so all you are left with is that some City Council members,
etc. 2 years ago or so, thought that it would limit sizes -- you can't obviously.
Mr. Olbrechts suggested to the Commission that they were not all lawyers, ob,:"iously, but he e.
thinks it is pretty easy to see that you can't limit development by somebody's intent, 2 years ago; it
has to be written in the code somewhere, and it's just not here. He said he thinks again, it is a great
project, and asked the Commission to feel free to ask questions of him or any of the development
team.
Chair Harbison gave opportunity for the appellant to give rebuttal. He asked her not to
introduce new material.
APPELLANT REBUTTAL:
Ms. Colette Kostelec
Ms. Kostelec said she thinks it is interesting to just think about the intent of these congregate care
facilities. Are they facilities that are designed as Jeff Randall once thought in 1997, facilities
designed". . . to allow residents to live a relatively independent life without the strict requirements of
a nursing home care . . "? Or are they in fact a lot more like the definition of a nursing, rest or
convalescent home in the municipal code which says it's an establishment which ". . . provides full
time care for three or more chronically ill or infirmed persons . . ."? She said it seems to her as
though the City Staff has interpreted the code one way for permitting additional dwelling units in the
assisted living facility on Discovery Road, and is now interpreting the intent of these sorts of
facilities in the exact opposite ways to support the proposal that is on the table tonight. She said she
heard the applicant say as he describes the project that these are old people; that they can't bathe for
themselves; they can't cook for themselves; they require full time nursing care; they can't live in a
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room; the can't give themselves appropriate nutritional care with the cooking facilities provided.
She said it just starts sounding a lot more like a nursing home facility to her. She pointed out that
nursing homes are a prohibited use in the R-II zone.
Again, regarding the issue oflimits on size ofthese buildings, by saying these are not dwelling
units in this building, we are essentially saying this is one dwelling unit. Then the only thing limiting
how many of these units we can fit on that 12 acre size is essentially lot coverage, 35 percent
maximum lot coverage in the R-II zone. She said by her calculations (12 acres, 35 percent, and the
size of this building), you could have 3-1/2 of these buildings on that same site. She did not really
think that is what the city had in mind, or the applicant, or anyone when they talked about and wrote
codes related to the R-II zone.
As to the issue if she has made a case that there was an error by the SEP A Responsible Official in
his Determination of Non-Significance for this project, she again said that by not recognizing the
significant adverse impacts of non-compliance with the zoning code, and specifically the dwelling
units per structure in the R-II zone, that the SEP A Responsible Official did not comply with SEP A
requirements for evaluating precedents set by proposals, specifically WAC 197 .11.060Ad. She said
she would just like to say that adopted codes and standards are in place, as she has said in her appeal,
to ensure that if a development follows those codes and standards, that development will not pose a
probable significant adverse impact.
She said her appeal also included some recommendations for how this project could be approved
on this site:
~ One was designing it as a complex of dwellings. She said someone thought congregate care
facilities could be designed as a.complex of dwellings; she is sure it's been done -- she is sure it
could be done. She said it may not be as economically lucrative to do it that way, but she thinks
it can be done; the definition suggests that it can be done that way. Ifthat were to be done, and
you wanted to cluster all those four-plexes on half the site, she believed that the only section in
the code that speaks to clustering units on a site is the Planned Unit Development (PUD) section
of the code.
She thought if you don't go that way, the only other alternatives are:
~ Rezoning the property to R-III or higher, or
~ Applying through a Comp Plan amendment for a revision to the bulk and dimensional
requirements for the R-II zone, specifically exempting these sorts of facilities, or
~ Changing the requirements by allowing multi-family development in the R-II zone.
She suggested one interesting thing is to look at what would happen if someone came in with a
single family residential proposal on this property. Again, if someone wanted to put 74 single family
homes on this property, the first thing the City would say is you need to subdivide the property. If
they wanted to cluster all those 74 units on half the site, the City would say they would have to do
that through a PUD. She asked why with an outright permitted use would they have to go through
those processes, but with a conditional use, which should theoretically have special controls imposed
upon it, wouldn't we go through it the same.
Ms. Kostelec concluded by saying that through a PUD, you are essentially rezoning the property;
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it is an rezone overlay on that property.
Chair Harbison gave opportunity for Staffto respond to any subjects raised by any speaker or
make any additional statements.
5. Staff Response on SEPA Appeal and CUP
Mr. Jeff Randall, BCD Director, Responsible Official.
Mr. Randall thanked everyone for attending and for acting in the manner they have tonight. He
said he thinks this makes it possible to live in a small town like we do and be as active as we are -- to
debate things that come up in a manner that you have. He said he considers many present as friends.
He said the discussion tonight makes it sound like this is a very complicated decision to make.
He said when folks come into their office and want to make any kind of proposal, sometimes digging
through the Port Townsend Municipal Code (PTMC) figuring out exactly what is allowable and what
is not allowable and how it is to be done is no simple matter. He said those in their office and BCD
strive to give folks very consistent information, make it as clear as possible and minimize
unnecessary processes.
He continued that when the issue came into their office, of what could they do with this property,
it's R-II, you look in the Land Use Table and it says "congregate care facility"-- well, pretty much
what you have to say is that congregate care is allowed as a conditional use. When you look at the
definition of "congregate care facility," and it says one building, a number of buildings, dwelling
units, non-dwelling units -- he said what that tells him is the definition allowed a lot of flexibility in
those things that could be done, leaving it do a developer to identify to their clientele what their
needs are. Maybe some individuals would like more of a full living environment, maybe with a little
bit smaller scale, but where they could live completely independently and use/share recreation
facilities, dining faciJities, if they so choose and visit with the neighbors in this complex. He said he
thinks it also allows for one building with units that don't equate to dwelling units; he thinks there is
a range in there implied, and it was consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. He said you do have
policies in your Findings and Conclusions that refer to the Comprehensive Plan, and if you have read
them, they talk that Port Townsend should provide multiple zones; providing for multiple types of
housing; be flexible; provide for all the economic segments of our society. He said he thinks this is
an example of this definition, allowing flexibility, allowing for variable uses.
He said the fact that congregate care facilities is listed as a conditional use in the R-II zone,
different from the R-III where it is permitted, recognizes that we are more concerned about
protecting the single family nature of the R - II zone; that is why the conditional use is there. Because
something is listed as a conational use, it doesn't mean you have to approve it. Because an applicant
proposes this structure (he turned to the drawing) someone said looks like a Bavarian village, or a
Bavarian large unit, doesn't mean you have to approve it. He said the Findings and Conclusions list
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a number of criteria. They talk about: compatibility; harmony with the neighborhood -- if you look
at all those criteria and add them together, it does give you a lot of power. He said he thinks when
you are looking at this you need to say, does it meet these? Ifit does not meet these, if you are going
to approve it, condition it so it does meet them; whether that means breaking the building up;
whether that means lowering because you have a specific concern that it's going to block, or if you
feel that the structure is not compatible with the predominant building sizes in the neighborhood --
you basically have that power.
Mr. Randall said looking at the application when it came into our office and applying our code,
they felt that on the face of it, that because it says one building, they could be dwelling units or not
be dwelling units, that this is consistent with that definition. He said there has been a lot said tonight
to make it appear that BCD rather whimsically says things are dwelling units, says they are not
dwelling units, depending. on who knows what -- whether we like or don't like it, or whether we are
always just trying to make the applicant happy, who knows what the allegation is. He said, "Let me
tell you, again it is a very small town." People all talk to one another; if you are calling something
one time a dwelling unit and not calling it a dwelling unit at another other time, it would get around
very fast. Here is our definition; it is not written anywhere, because again we have this definition
from the code that talks about"complete housekeeping unit." He said how we define that on a day-
to-day basis is as simple as this, does it have an oven range together with those other items, the
bathroom, the bedroom, the living facilities? He said they have people come in every day -- he cited
a recent example in the R-I district which requires you have a minimum 10,000 square feet. This
person felt 10,000 square feet is a waste of land unless he builds as many buildings as he can; he
wanted to build a single family residence for his ex-wife; he wanted to build a garage with some
living space above it for an extra bedroom or something. He wanted to build a third building, and
wanted to have kitchen and bathroom facilities and bedroom facilities in all of these. They had to
tell him they were sorry, but the R- I only allows a single family residence and one accessory dwelling
unit (ADU) if the primary occupant lives in the single family residence. It doesn't allow a single
family residence, plus an ADU, plus another ADU, which israther what he was proposing. He
wanted to know, where is that line -- what is a dwelling unit? what is an accessory dwelling unit?
They told him their definition is, if it has the range in it, it becomes a dwelling unit. The one he had
proposed as a garage; he pulled out the range -- it was still a bedroom and might have a refrigerator
in it in the future, might have a sink in it in the future. He said they have other situations where
people have their house, but they want their office in the back. Maybe they already have an ADU,
but they want to have an office; they ask what they can have in it -- a sink? a refrigerator? stove? He
said they have to draw a line; it is the stove, and that is where they draw the line.
Others have brought up that they could live in one of these; "I could get by with a microwave and
a fridge -- I could be happy." He said to tell the truth, if someone came into their office tomorrow
and said they have a house, have an ADU, enough land and can meet setbacks, but wanted to put one
ofthese things, a little building with a bedroom and a bathroom, a sink and fridge in it, can I do that?
He would reply, the code allows them to have a single family residence and an ADU, that is all you
can have, so, there can't be an another ADU. We would let him have it, because we wouldn't define
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it as a dwelling unit.
He mentioned reference to a memo he wrote in 1997, 2-1/2 months after he started working for
the City of Port Townsend, his first file; he did not do the rest ofthe file. He said he thinks this was
an amendment to the original planning and development -- the assisted living concept now called
Victoria House on Discovery Way. He referred to ". . . adding three additional dwelling units to a
previously approved 36 assisted living care facility." He stated that the appellant referred to this
letter, that for some reason referring to the dwelling units here for their benefit -- for our benefit, or
for somebody's benefit -- and now not referring to them as dwelling units here, for again someone's
benefit, he is being inconsistent. He spoke of the buildings physically and said he had been in the
one on Discovery Way and has seen the plans for this project; basically, they are identical other than
this one is proposed as two-story for 74 units, and he believes the other one ended with a total of39
units and is one-story. He said he guessed if you double it, it is basically the same building. They
had the same thing -- one room with a bathroom and a little kitchenette (a small fridge, microwave
and a small sink); they are basically the same kind öfthing. He referred to it as a dwelling unit here.
He said it didn't give them any advantage; that maximum four dwelling unit didn't even exist at the
time this applied. He stated what he was referring to was density, and he was speaking to their
wanting more dwelling units; therefore, it would increase the density. That was consistent with the
original PUD; the reason this triggered a PUD is because they were asking for more density than the
.underlying zone allowed. .
Mr. Randall distributed Exhibit X, A History of Senior Housing in Port Townsend. He explained
that Kah Tai Care Center is really not applicable, because they were developed before code. He said
what he is getting to is how they applied their code to these things (Kah Tai was done before our
code existed in the '50s and '70s). He enumerated the following:
~ Victoria House -- 39 unit assisted living facility (same sort of thing). Zoning at that time, R-I.
The category they had to put these into was convalescent facilities; there was nothing for congregate
care facility. In order to get it, they had to do a PUD; it was an allowed use through a CUP.
They did a PUD for it because they were asking for more density for what the underlying zone
allowed, and they did SEP A.
~ Madrona Ridge was something that was proposed by Nancy Scott on Howard Street that hasn't
been completed. It was in the R-III zone; it was originally going to require a PUD because the
original zoning was R-IA which did not allow congregate facilities at all. They were going to do
a PUD because it was a prohibited use. The zoning changed to R-III, made it a permitted use and
the PUD wasn't necessary. He said that one could still happen at some point.
~ San Juan Commons is not assisted living. It is an apartment building designed for senior
citizens. Apartments are a permitted use in the R-III, and they met the basic density
requirements, so no PUD was required for that either.
~ Northwest Care Management is that Altzheimers facility which has been referred to as being
empty. It is R-III and was permitted use also. Convalescent and congregate care are both
permitted in R-III.
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Mr. Randall said this project is listed as a CUP, so that clearly applies; a PUD we felt didn't
apply because they are not asking for variance of setbacks, buildings, density, lot coverage, anything.
He said the only thing -- are they dwelling units? He said as he explained, per the way they apply
their code every day, these are not dwelling units. He said ifthe applicant came in with this project-
- he takes the opposite tack and would say these are all dwelling units; the have full housekeeping
facilities for a family. He said he would have a hard time making that argument with a straight face,
because this whole thing is designed around a common kitchen area, a common eating area, a
common recreation area, common washing facilities. He said the definition talks about these people
as needing a certain amount of care; they have at least one physical disability as these folks have
defined. He said with a straight face he could not say that.
He said they strive for consistency; if they don't, in this town they are going to get burned. It is a
small town, we have our reputation, and we want to be able to give straight answers to people. He
said he is not saying this is an easy decision; it is complicated -- definitions are complicated; we have
lots of bulk and dimensional standards so we can predict and take care of everything.
He said to the Planning Commission he guessed the short answer is he feels like they are not
dwelling units, but you have a lot of power to deal with the impacts of this project and he thinks
these folks have raised a lot of very good questions about if this is compatible? can it be made
compatible? He said you have all the conditional use permit criteria, all the multi-family design
standards that talk about neighborhood scale, etc. to deal with this project. He said he guessed rather
than trying to trip it up by saying they are dwelling units and the limited case law they have on these,
the law probably wouldn't support that. He said he is recommending they do not go down that route,
because it's not legally defensible; he thought we could get in trouble if we were the reverse case -- if
the folks were appealing our determination that they were dwelling units.
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Mr. Randall discussed a couple of other issues that were brought up:
Stormwater: Our information in this general area from San Juan Commons short plat is that these are
some of the best wells in town for drainage. He said they have no evidence at all that water is
coming back toward the golf course. They have to comply with the state stormwater manuals, as
well as the city's stormwater requirements. He said that our information so far is that we can
make it work, and it's not going to impact outside properties.
Impact to the hospital and emergency services: He said that is another good question. Right now
under Washington State law, though we cannot charge an impact fee unless we have an impact
fee ordinance. Right now we don't. Basically, we don't call them impact fees, but we have fees
for water and sewer that we charge for every new residential connection to pay for future
expansion. He said we don't have anything for emergency services. So, legally we can't do it
unless they voluntarily offer to do so. He said they did circulate the application to the fire
department, and they didn't get comments back about how this was going to negatively impact
their service.
Density: Several people have brought up the fact that we are being inconsistent because we are not
saying they are dwelling units in terms of the definition of each unit being a dwelling unit, but we
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are saying they are dwelling units in terms of density. He thinks a lot of people have made a lot
of good points that if you don't have some kind of cap on these kinds of facilities, they could be
big as a mountain. What he is relying on, the Land Use Table when it talks about density says
"housing units;" for R-I and R-II says ''units, and for R-III and R-IV it talks about bedrooms,
which is a recent amendment. He said it is not saying "dwelling units" when it is says ''units.''
He said he hated to be technical, but he is going to be, it says "housing units." He said he would
say these are housing units, but he is not saying they are dwelling units. So, that is how we are
dealing with the density. We feel that gives us a cap on it; it applies to the housing units in the
table, but as far as dwelling units in a structure, we don't feel that applies. He said he provided
the Commission the history on this amendment, about how it came about in 1999 as part of an
overall code cleanup. It was a code amendment of Eric Toews and Tim McMann who were on
staff at that time and took that through; it was listed as a code amendment. He said the ordinance
is about 1/8th inch thick. They moved definitions around, changed cross references and got rid
of some definitions that weren't applicable anymore. They added that section about no more
than four dwelling units allowed in a structure in R-I and R-II. What they said it was about is
that it wasn't a requirement, it was referring to the general principles in the Comp Plan and the
prohibition in R-I and R-II over anything that is more than a four-plex. He said, when he read
that before that amendment was done, the code still said the same thing: up to a four-plex a
single family dwelling was permitted; more than a four-plex, it was multifamily development and .
not allowed. Congregate care facilities was a conditional use permit then; it's a conditional use
now. There was nothing there saying congregate care facilities were limited in size other than
you had a conditional use permit and you had multi-family design standards, which is what we
are asserting we still have to work with. That new section should not be applicable.
Chair Harbison opened the hearing for Planning Commissioners to address any questions of
anyone who has spoken this evening or any questions they have, of Staff. He asked respondents to
questions to please take the lectern to respond.
Plannine: Commission Questions:
Mr. Arthur: On the last to come up, Exhibit X, it says that Victoria House had to provide a SEP A
and Madrona Ridge a SEP A, am I to understand that is a full SEP A review? Is that what these
proponents have done?
Mr. Randall replied that all those items: Victoria House, Madrona Ridge, San Juan Commons,
Northwest Care Management, when it says SEP A it is referring to SEP A MDNS (Mitigated
Determination of Non-Significance), a similar process except that some of those were
administrative determinations and never came to a public hearing, such as Madrona Ridge, San
Juan Commons and Northwest Care Management, while Victoria House because it was a PUD
went to a public hearing. .
Mr. Arthur: None ofthese went to a full SEP A Review? Mr. Randall replied as far as an EIS, none
did. Mr. Arthur said he keeps hearing about the dwelling units. He said he is a little confused as
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is everybody as to what that means, so he asked, is there any reference in the codes anywhere to
who controls the use of the unit?
Mr. Randall replied, if he understands the question, "no."
Mr. Arthur: For instance if I have a dwelling unit that I call "home," I can invite as many people,
have as many people stay as I choose, for as long as I choose. Am I to assume that if! were to
call this a"dwelling unit," that the people that lived in it would have the same opportunity to
invite guests to stay overnight? He said he is trying to clarify in his mind -- he said he could
understand the stove part, but he thinks there is more; what he calls a dwelling unit is where he
controls, he pays rent and controls who comes and goes. He said he does not know how these
homes are handling that.
Mr. Randall: There is a definition of family, which we have not provided for you. He said he could
read it for the record, "Family means one or more persons related by blood, marriage, adoption,
or a group of not more than six persons, excluding servants, not related by blood or marriage
living together as a single housekeeping unit in a dwelling unit. The persons thus constituting a
family may also include foster children, guests and domestic servants. State licensed adult
family homes and consensual living arrangements of disabled persons in accordance with the
Federal Fair Housing Act are exempt from this definition." He said that is the only thing he is
aware of that gets at how many people can be in a house, be a family and be a dwelling unit.
Mr. Arthur: It needs to be more clear than that. The definition you just read, basically says I am in a
unit that I control who comes and goes and who stays there; there must be some kind of control.
Who controls who sleeps in the bed inside of whatever this room is?
Mr. Randall asked Mr. Arthur ifhe is talking about this assisted living facility and he replied that he
was. Mr. Randall said he thinks they arerented and leased out, so it would be the operators of
the facility. Mr. Arthur suggested they are the ones who control who sleeps in the bed. Mr.
Randall said that would be correct. His understanding is they are not salable by the individual
tenant; the person living there cannot sell the unit; it's not rentable by them; it's operated by the
owner.
Mr. Arthur said his sister lives in an assisted care facility down in Shelton, and I can go visit her. I
can help her in her room, but I can't go and stay for a week down there in this facility. They have
rules for that. In the broad sense of what he is trying to find out here, in this particular case, who
decides who stays inside every room?
Mr. Watts called for clarification
Mr. Fronk, Development Group, replied that the facility controls that, as you have eloquently
Iterated, as in the Shelton facility. Due to security and health concerns, all guests must leave the
facility after visiting hours. No one is allowed to stay overnight, if you will.
Mr. Arthur: It doesn't matter what family member? Ifmy mother was there, I am her son and I went
there and I wanted to stay, I couldn't stay there?
Mr. Fronk: You could stay, if you had an acute condition and chose to pay additional rent.
Mr. Arthur: Not as a guest? Mr. Fronk replied you could not stay as a guest. He said these things
are also controlled by DSHS.
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Mr. Arthur also said he tried to look at the bulk and dimension Ms. Koste1ec was so kind to leave
them, and he can't figure out, if I had four units in an R-II zone, if I wanted to comply by the
code why I couldn't have 10,000 square feet per unit? He couldn't find anywhere, maybe that is
where he needs some help, as to where there is a square foot limit in the bulk and dimension in
R-II. Is there one?
Mr. Randall: That would be limited by lot coverage.
Mr. Spieckerman asked Mr. Watts -- Mr. Keith brought up two areas I found ofinterest, the Building
Code and W ACsboth seem to define living units in terms of what they contain. Does this take
any precedence in this particular issue?
Mr. Watts: No, the City code would determine what would be allowed in terms of a building and
building requirements within the city.
Mr. Spieckerman: In terms of a definition of what they define it as, Mr. Keith expressed it, cooking
unit rather than a stove.
Mr. Watts: Starting would be the city's code, then the next level would be whether or not there have
been appellate court cases that had made any rulings that could be argued to be onpoint or
persuasive. He said other regulatory agencies definitions of how they would define what a living
unit is, or dwelling unit, would not be persuasive in terms of determining what the city code
intent is. In other words, what the UBC says or means with respect to a dwelling unit or a living
area, or what constitutes a habitable area, would not be persuasive in terms of defining what the
city code says or means.
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Mr. Spieckerman: Is there anywhere in code that defines the use or requires the use of the stove or
oven?
Mr. Randall: The UBC does have minimum requirements, square footage-wise and he believed
appliance~wise for dwelling units, and efficiency, etc.
Ms. Koste1ec: Pointed out the information is front of you.
Mr. Benskin: The paper Mr. Keith presented us has that UBC with the definitions on it; so that
should be clear.
Mr. Randall: Basically, an efficiency dwelling unit, as I understand, iskind ofthe smallest dwelling
unit you can have by the UBC. Under sub 3 of that definition it says "The unit shall be provided
with a kitchen sink, cooking appliance, and refrigeration facilities each having a clear working
space of not less than 30 inches in front. Light and ventilation shall conform to this code."
Mr. Benskin: Does our code specify anything different as far as the cooking appliance? You are
calling it a range or an oven by your definition.
Mr. Randall: As I have said, what we have in writing is the dwelling unit definition which talks
about full housekeeping facilities. Having to figure out what a cooking facility is in the UBC and
what full housekeeping facilities are, the Building Department over the years has consistently
said, oven range, being that it is wired differently, has a higher voltage; and that is a cooking
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facility.
Mr. Benskin: That is not what the UBC says.
Mr. Watts: There is no state definition of what cities are required to adopt in terms of defining their
zoning codes or building codes. A State definition with respect to a building code, the city is not
required to adopt that for the purposes of its zoning code. The City has adopted a separate
definition of what constitutes a dwelling unit, and it has been presented tonight, interpreted by
Staff in a particular manner.
Mr. Benskin: The key there is the interpretation; it is not what is written.
Mr. Watts: There is some additional language in the definition of a dwelling unit that says it contains
a complete housekeeping. . .
Mr. Randall: To give you some explanation of why the City has interpreted it that way, if you have
a hot plate, if you have a microwave, those can be plugged into a regular outlet, thereby
converting any room into a kitchen by that defmition. We chose not to do that because an oven
range does require a particular wiring and particular expense and is not something you can easily
do. We view microwaves and hotplates as not something that turns it into kitchen, so that people
that want those conveniences can do so and not violate our code. Where if you put an oven range
in, we ~eel you are making steps that basically turns it into a kitchen, if you have those other
things.
Mr. Benskin: Do we have a notice of our building code, various flyers on what the requirements are;
do we have one that states that?
Mr. Randall: One that specifically says. . . He said he is not aware of it.
Mr. Benskin: Said he is not aware of it either.
Chair Harbison asked if there are any other questions from the Commission of any speakers
or Staff members?
Mr. Spieckerman called for a point of order and asked if they are speaking only to the SEP A
appeal now. Chair Harbison replied that, no, since they were presented together, this includes any
questions of either the SEP A appeal or Conditional Use Permit.
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Mr. Spieckerman asked Mr. Olbrechts, concerning the open space; you said the open space is going
to be defined, one ofthe ways approved by the City Attorney, etc., etc., and you also made alittle
caveat there indicating, unless changed by the city at some point in time. He said thatdoesn't
sound very permanent, because it can then at its pleasure change that open space and rezone it for
whatever it wishes. It sort of sounds like this is permanent, until we decide to change it. Isn't
there a more permanent, permanent method?
Mr. Olbrechts: You should probably ask your City'Attorney on that one. I have not ever seen a
covenant like that ever removed. They are permanent in that sense; 50 years from now for
whatever. . .
Mr. Spieckerman: Something like the Jefferson Land Trust is a more permanent method, isn't it?
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Mr. Olbrechts: I really don't know what" kind of restrictions apply with Jefferson Land Trust. I
would have actually thought it was less permanent with them, but again you can ask your City
Attorney. Mr. Spieckerman asked Mr. Watts for an opinion there.
Mr. Watts: The Staff recommendation was either a covenant placed on the land that was acceptable
to the City, could not be modified unless the City said it could be modified, or to put the property
into a non-profit land trust. In terms of whether the City at some point in the future could modify
the provision Mr. Olbrechts mentioned, in the event of public interest or safety, and that would
probably be one. The other would be it if it was tied to the issuance of a conditional use permit,
then the City couldn't modify the provision unless the conational use permit no longer applied.
Mr. Olbrechts: If burned down, and they didn't want to rebuild it, there is no point of having a
covenant any more.
Mr. Watts: But if the building did burn down, the City would not be obligated.
Mr. Arthur: From your vast experience, what happens if one of these assisted living places fails and
you have this big huge building everyone has been talking about; in your experience have you
ever seen them converted to something else? What might they be converted to?
Mr. Olbrechts: First they would have to comply with the zoning code. . He was not aware of any
failures. Your code does a lot of group homes for instance in that area, and it could be converted
to a group home. As a matter of fact, under federal law , you can't limit the number of people, at
least the reasonable number of people, within a group home. That would be a given right there. .
People who are disabled, and that sort of thing would be a prime conversion, I would think.
Otherwise, your other control, if it sits empty and becomes dilapidated, you have a dangerous
building code. You can abate it as a nuisance ifthat becomes an issue. There are a few controls
there.
Mr. Harbison: Mr. Fronk described that there was a 283 demand in the. trade area. Could you
describe what the trade area is, what we are referring to?
Mr. Fronk: We contacted EDC as iterated in the beginning of this session. The EDC defined the
trade area as being a 10 mile area. When we run our demographics, we like to use conservative
numbers; we reduced that 10 mile trade area to a 7 mile radius, he believed from 140 degrees to
310 degrees. We do not incorporate the water in the outlying areas.
Mr. Benskin: There was reference to the ownership ofthe property. He asked Mr. Fronk ifthey are
in full ownership ofthe property at this time, or is it on a contingency-type situation?
Mr. Fronk: We do have the property under contract, and that is just a normal course ofbusiness.
Mr. Benskin: Is the contract dependent on all the permits that are required for the project?
Mr. Fronk: I am presented with a very difficult situation to answer that question, because due to the
terms ofthe contract, I can only speak to government officials of the terms of that contract. We
do have the public present. I would be willing to speak to you regarding that in closed chambers.
Mr. Arthur: It was suggested that a binding site plan might be an option. It seems to me, and maybe
I have read it wrong again, that binding site plans are only used in commercial or industrial
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applications. Is that true or nor true?
Mr. Randall: Basically, to get to the binding site plan, you have to go through a PUD to get tœre.
The Planned Unit Development ordinance says that if you are doing a PUD you have to have
some sort of subdivision mechanism that goes along with it. That applies if you are doing a
subdivision that has more than nine lots; you are into the long plat, a full plat; if you have two to
eight lots, you can do a short plat. If neither one of the above applies, you would do a binding
site plan. In this case, really it's one parcel-- currently it is in three segments so I guess it's three
parcels. What they are proposing to do roughly corresponds to the existing parcel pattern; the
two northern parcels they are proposing to leave a open space, and the southern parcel they are
proposing to develop with the project. We would view that as not needing a subdivision, not
needing a short plat or a long plat, because they have boundary lines; they are basically
respecting those existing boundary lines. So, the only way to get to a binding site plan is if you
determine a PUD is necessary to modify some existing rule to allow this to go through. Then,
the code says that if a long plat doesn't apply, and a short plat doesn't apply, you do a binding
site plan. You are right, binding site plans do also apply to commercial and industrial
development, but they can be used for a PUD ifthe long plat or short doesn't fit.
Mr.Arthur: So they could do it that way? Mr. Randall concurred.
Mr. Arthur: The open space -- if you added to the conditions, and the use changed at some point,
would the condition of its being open space fall through the crack at that point, or is there
something that you are doing within the agreements that controls that somehow?
Mr. McDonagh from BCD: In understand your question correctly, if something were to happen with
the conditional use, if it were to be modified in some way, that open space would be preserved
and can only be modified upon approval by the City. So, if there were something in the CUP
use, we would have to look at some proposed change to the open space, do nothing contrary to
the intent of the original approval and original preservation of that area.
Mr. Arthur: It sounds like you are saying it is fairly permanent, no matter what the use of the
property.
Mr. McDonagh: That is the intent. Again, it is the key, critical component of the project..
Mr. Arthur: Ifwhat has been brought up in the past, the property has not exactly been deeded across
yet, is the present owner of the property willing to abide by the agreements, or are the agreements
subject to the purchase of the property?
Mr. Watts: The conditions that are imposed as a result of this process are binding on the property if
the application goes forward; if the application does not go forward, then nothing results as the
result of this process. So, ifthe applicant goes forward and applies for a building permit, then as
a result the conditions are imposed, and as a result of applying for the building permit and before
any construction can begin, the property that is required to be placed into open space would be
guaranteed, would be the result of either a covenant or transfer to an acceptable land trust. It
doesn't happen unless the project goes forward, and it would be binding on whomever the owner
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There being no other questions, Chair Harbison asked the Commission if they would like to
take a short break. It was determined to proceed to discussion. Chair Harbison said at this point
there would be no further testimony, and he closed the public testimony portion of the hearing.
PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION ON SEP A APPEAL:
Chair Harbison said it is now in order for the Planning Commission to first discuss the SEP A
appeal and for a Planning Commission member then to take action on the SEP A appeal. After action
on the SEP A apeal is taken, they will be in a position to know whether or not to proceed to take
action on the CUP.
Commission Discussion:
Ms. Erickson said she was on the Planning Commission when they worked on theR-I and R-II in the
Comp Plan. She remembers several key questions they had concerning some ofthe things that
have been brought up. In particular, congregate care facilities instead of having them outright
permitted into the R - II, she said they wanted more flexibility on whether or not it would fit into
the area, and that is why she remembered they had it for conditional use. She said she didn't
remember ever having thought with the residential bulk that there would be four-plexes; it never
entered her mind at the time until this came that there would be anything other than one building
with the people inside in order to give them their care. She said she could never imagine
duplicate 4-5-6 different buildings housing 8 or 10 people and having the type of care
congregate care facilities provide. She continued that when she went through this conditional
use, as far as she was concerned, it was so they had more say in the R- II zone rather than outright
permitting it like in R -III and R-IV. So, the BCD director's interpretation was exactly how she
understood it when they went through all the discussion. She said that was her background or
remembering how she interpreted it; although some previous Council members remembered it in
a different way, she never understood it to be their interpretation. The way it is interpreted by the
BCD Director, is exactly how she understood it when they discussed the Comp Plan in the
Planning Commission, never understood it to be any other way, and did not think it was going to
be the same as the residential maximums. Nursing/rest homes, convalescent homes were not
going to be outright permitted in R-II, and she was trying to remember why they were not going
to allow that under conditional use; basically it is not exactly the same use, but with senior
citizens. For some reason, she did not remember why, it was not allowed at all in R-II, but she
did not interpret it at that time or even now other than the way BCD has interpreted it. She said
her other comments would be on the complex itself.
Mr. Harbison asked for other comments. He then asked to clarify their options: 1) Affirming
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the Director's decision on the SEP A determination -- with or without additional conditions based on
the SEP A adopted policies; 2) Reverse the Director's decision on the SEPA; 3) Remand the
application to the Director for further review and consideration with direction from this Commission.
Mr. Watts clarified that the remand option is not provided in the Port Townsend Municipal
Code. At the Planning Commission level, the code is very clear that your options are to Affirm,
Modify or Reverse. That action is a recommendation to the City Council.
Mr. Spieckerman said he is not sure any additional study would provide any additional
information or any additional conditions. Mr. Harbison replied ifhe is understanding, that is not an
option. Mr. Spieckerman said he was referring to additional conditions, that he is not sure what
additional conditions could be considered here. Mr. Watts explained this would not be a remand,
but if the Planning Commission has questions they believe they want further information on, the
Planning Commission is free to request Staff to produce that additional information, e.g., iftraffic
had been an issue, and they wanted additional information on traffic impacts, the Planning
Commission could request additional information from Staff on traffic. If there is additional
information the Planning Commission needs before they can make a decision, that information can
be requested of Staff. That is not the same as a remand; that is basically a postponement of decision
until the Commission receives additional information.
Mr. Irvin commented he thought that in the last 3-5 years they. have just begun to see what he
considered to be tip of the iceberg with regard to all of these facilities that have been named by
so many different names, and written up with so many different definitions that are at odds with
one another in the various portions of the codes, state codes, city codes, municipal codes, etc. He
said he thinks as they have heard, you can provide open arguments using all these different
sources to argue either side ofthe case; it comes down to personal interpretation that each one is
being asked to make with respect to some of the so called Findíng arguments. Is it, or isn't it?
He has a hard time reconciling this type of facility as being defined as a living dwelling as
opposed to the unit. He said he tends to favor the Staff's definition.
Mr. Spieckerman noted that he appreciated clarification relative to whether or not they are consistent
within what they do from one application to another relative to whether there is a stove in place,
regardless of how the state or building code defines them. He is fairly clear, these are probably
not individual units as one would normally think of them, even though a number of people,
including himself, have lived in such units in the past intheir college days, etc. He guessed he
has changed his mind in listening to the testimony as to what a unit is.
Chair Harbison said one basis for appeal of the SEP A by the appellant contended that the
SEP A Responsible Official has not followed the correct review procedures of Port Townsend
Municipal Code with respect to the proposed conditional use. He asked if there are questions
concerning that statement, if anyoríe needs to be clear now that they are considering just the SEP A
appeal. There being no questions he asked if anyone would like to make a motion or ask for further
clarification to postpone a decision on the SEP A appeal.
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MOTION
Mr. Spieckerman
REJECT THE SEP A APPEAL AND ACCEPT
BCD RECOMMENDATION
SECOND Ms. Erickson
Discussion: Ms. Ota asked for clarification ifthe motion was to deny the appeal. The Chair
affirmed.
VOTE PASSED 5 IN FAVOR; MS. OTA AND MR. BENSKIN OPPOSED
City Attorney Watts stated the Commission has just voted 5 to 2 to reject the appeaL He said
it would be appropriate at this time for the Commission to take action on the draft SEP A appeal
decision which is in the Commission packet, whether to adopt that document or to indicate where it
could or should be modified, if the Commission is in position to do that at this time. If the
Commission does feel the document in the Staff packet reflects its decision, it should indicate where
and why, and then Staff will try to deal with that.
The document SEPA APPEAL, Port Townsend Assisted Living LUP #00-39 is a draft
decision prepared by Staff. Mr. Watts recommended that Commission review the document for a
few minutes, particularly those who voted in favor of the action to deny the appeal and see if this
document reflects a written form of the Findings and Recommendation that the Commission would
then forward on to the City CounciL If so, it would be appropriate to make a motion to adopt this .
document as the recommendation to the City CounciL
Ms. Erickson suggested regarding Conclusion 3, to ad~the word "units" to change the reading to ". .
. The individual bedroom units within the proposed congregate care facility do not meet the
definition of a dwelling unit. . ." -- rather than just the word "bedrooms."
Chair Harbison asked if there were any other modifications to the Conclusions or
Recommendations of the SEP A Appeal, Port Townsend Assisted Living L UP #00-39. He then called
for a motion to move the recommendations and conclusions, including the changes indicated, to the
City CounciL
MOTION
Ms. Erickson
RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL UPHOLD THE
SEP A APPEAL AS AMENDED
SECOND Mr. Spieckerman
Amended Conclusion 3):" The individual bedroom units within the proposed
congregate care facility do not meet tbe definition of a dwelling
unit . . . "
VOTE PASSED 5 IN FAVOR; MS. OTA AND MR. BENSKIN OPPOSED
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2A. PORT TOWNSEND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, LLC --
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT -- LUPOO-039
PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT -- LUPOO-039
Mr. Harbison asked if a remand is not an appropriate choice in this either. City Attorney
Watts replied that was correct for the same reasons. If the Commission needs additional information
before it makes its decision, it can request that additional information. That would not be a remand;
it would be a postponement until that additional information was provided.
COMMISSION DISCUSSION:
Mr. Arthur asked if the trail is included in the decision they are making tonight. Mr. McDonagh
concurred. Mr. Arthur then asked if there was something about roof lines and something else
that was added by the proponent?
Mr. McDonagh replied there was; there is a condition that is written into the Findings of Fact. The
intent of the condition is not to require the roofs to be flat; it is to try to minimize the pitch of the
roofs as much as possible, and that is something that would be ironed out through multi-family .
design review standards -- we would want the applicant to demonstrate that this is as Iowa pitch
as possible for the project.
Mr. Arthur asked if it is not something we are doing tonight.
McDonagh said it is not, other than it is a recommendation -- part of the Findings of Facts.
Mr. Randall stated it is Recommendation B, page 11.
Mr. Arthur asked if they are not saying that has to be a flat roof.
Mr. Randall said the intent of that was not to say that it was a flat roof. He said they did not have the
information on the exact pitch, whether it was a 5/12,4/12 or a 3/12 pitch, but in looking at it, it
appeared that possibly a lower pitch could be used. Because the building is fairly wide, just .
dropping the angle of the roof pitch a little could significantly lower how much of building you
are seeing and how much sky you could be seeing instead.
Mr. Arthur said he thought one ofthe people from the project said something about having some low
lights around the sidewalks and they turned them off at night. What good are lights that are not
good at night?
Mr. Randall said he believed they stated they would be off and worked by probably a motion sensor
kicking on when people walked nearby. He asked for clarification from the developer
Mr. Ruggles, Progressive Consultants, said the lights he was referring to were around the walking
path that is used by the residents. They wouldn't want to walk at night, so they shut down.
Mr. Arthur asked why they put in lights if they don't walk at night.
Mr. Ruggles suggested it would a place where it might be a safety hazard -- a little past dusk it would
be shut off.
Mr. Arthur asked ifthey didn't have a time in there.
Mr. Watts said if there is not a time in the recommending conditions, and the Commission believed
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the time condition were appropriate, the Commission could impose such a restriction, so long as
it was based on facts and record.
Mr. Fronk, Development Group, clarified they had those lights lit throughout the evening; however,
based on community input, due to concerns about star gazing, the developers implemented
recommendations to have them dim off, or trigger off. Whether it be time or motion sensor is
open; it could go either option, but based on community comment they made them go off at
night, trying to be receptive to community need.
Mr. Benskin spoke regarding the parking lot, and additional parking spaces and asked if that is lit
also?
Mr. Fronk deferred to the architect.
Mr. Ruggles replied and pointed to the Phase 2 parking lot. He said it would be lit; the minimum
lighting is security for staff because of shift changes in the middle of the night.
Mr. Arthur asked regarding all the trails going through there. Is that part of the conditions for this
Conditional Use Permit? Who maintains them, and how are they lighted if people chose to use
them at night?
Mr. McDonagh answered that the trail itself would not be lit. Maintenance would be by the city; it
would be located within or on top of an easement that the city would have established.
Mr. Arthur: When this project is finished, with these conditions and all this, will it be safe to walk
from F Street to Tremont Street, on this trail?
Mr. McDonagh replied yes. He said the condition is worded to deal with specifics of the design as to
where you would put some bollards -- not just F Street and Tremont Street, but some other
intersecting trail areas. The project itself is going to have some private trails around the building
that would tie into the regional trail. There will probably be some bollards placed there and
along the Francis Street right-of-way that runs off to San Juan A venue to prohibit non-authorized
motor vehicle use of the trail. He said the F Street project is going along, and they will be
working on some of the design of how that trail will intersect with and cross F Street.
Mr. Arthur asked ifthat is an alternate safety fire access, you wouldn't have bollards?
Mr. McDonagh said no, the bollards would just be if you had the F Street entrance and the Tremont
Street entrance and allows emergency vehicles.
Mr. Arthur said that emergency vehicles would still be able to get in there.
Mr. Spieckerman asked if the trail would be locked to keep other vehicles out. Mr. McDonagh
concurred.
Ms. Erickson asked if we know if it is going to be paved, gravel, or whatever.
Mr. McDonagh said that in the draft findings they have recommended a paved 11' width. In the
applicant's testimony that is one of the issues they are seeking some modification on. The
standard in the Non-Motorized Trail Manual is a 10' paved section for this type of trail, a
regional multi-use trail (not one ofthe gravel short-cut trails that are running through unopened
rights-of-way) -- this is sort of a central trail connecting large segments oftown and designed to
be a transportation facility for a number of types of users. He said he didn't think they would
quibble over 1 foot, but they are very convinced that it does need to be paved for maintenance
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reasons, as well as to ensure that in all weather conditions an emergency vehicle can access it.
Mr. Irvin asked if it gets paved, with the impervious surface what happens with stormwaterrunoffin
that area? He thought that would be alot of water.
Mr. McDonagh said all of the public related infrastructure improvements from the trail, to the
frontage improvements required on F Street, the sewer and water connections, are all governed
by the City's Engineering Design Standards (EDS), and when they examine this, they will be
looking at how they will deal with draining on the project. If they need to have something
special at certain locations, it will be somethîng they will require the applicant to do, whether
sloping the trail, perhaps one direction to have it run off onto a grassy area. It will all be dealt
with in the EDS.
Mr. Benskin asked if that is dealt with in the Conditional Use Permit?
Mr. McDonagh said it is dealt with in there, basically the governing Public Works infrastructure
permit, which deals with the sewer and water; trail and frontage improvements on F Street all
will be governed and be handled through the street utility development permit they will need to
apply for through the Public Works. It is in the Findings and Conclusions that they will obtain a
street utility development permit.
Mr. Spieckerman said one thing he noted from reading comments from the public, which he takes
very seriously, they were complaining about San Juan Commons. He said he assumed there was
no relationship between that and the owners of this project; they are basically complaining
against San Juan Commons and trying to apply it this project as well.
Mr. McDonagh said there is no "relationship between San Juan Commons "and the development
group. He thought with the comments they made about what happened at San Juan Commons,
they don't want the same to happen here. The applicant and BCD have been working hard to
make sure that particularly the landscaping elements of this project are done to high quality.
Mr. Benskin asked regarding the enforcement capability and he referred to San Juan Commons not
living up to the requirements.
Mr. Randall indicated San Juan Commons actually installed the landscaping they were required to
install. In their SEP A the landscaping plan was to be approved by the BCD Director. The
typical language in there is that dead or dying plants shall be replaced at the cost of the applicant,
and that is a condition that goes on into perpetuity. There is also a condition in there that says if
the landscaping is not working as designed, augmentation to that landscaping can be required.
He referred to his error in determinîng his first landscaping plan and learning through experience.
The Altzheimer's facility is a good example of nice landscaping; it is still immature as it was
just planted, but they have learned that you need a lot of evergreens in this town to perform
screening. Basically, they tell people now that two-thirds needs to be evergreen because
deciduous lose their leaves and sticks don't offer much landscaping 6 months out of the year.
They have put conditions in that say dead or·dying materials need to be replaced. Again, if they
get the landscaping in there and it's not providing sufficient break-up of the building or it looks
good on paper but not in reality, they can go back and say to put in more plantings. They have
been trying to work with San Juan Commons to get better landscaping, and they did put in some
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additional trees this summer that were pretty small but are fast growing poplars. They will see
how those go. He said he appreciates the input they have gotten from the residents in that area,
and they have tried to work with those owners. They have downshie1ds put on all the lights
around San Juan Commons, and the last he heard people were pretty happy with the lighting. On
the Altzheimers facility, he said he did not really hear any complaints about lanQscaping, and he
thinks people have been pretty happy with that. He said he had not been out to see how many
dead or dying trees need to be replaced; they may need to get on them about that. He said they
have the tools in the decision to get what they need to get. In some cases it is a matter of shaking
someone loose to get them out to inspect it. They have been a little short staffed, but he would
like to have a yearly routine of going out to check people's landscaping and writing them letters.
Owners do have warranties. The first year the landscaper is required to fix it -- the first year is
usually free for the owner.
Mr. Spieckerman again asked what enforcement procedures do they have. You said you go out and
inspect, but how can you force somebody to replant trees.
Mr. Randall replied it is a condition on their project; it is in the SEP A condition that says they shall
do it, so they have full enforcement authority just as if it is a city regulation.
Mr. Spieckerman asked if they plant the trees and send them a bill if they don't do it?
Mr. Randall said they have not gotten to going out tÇ> plant for them and send them the bill. But they
can take enforcement action including fines and things like that.
Mr. Spieckerman spoke of the impressive 18-20 foot trees around this building; he would look
forward to seeing them. One of the other questions asked, and talked about here in the lighting
plan, it is showing 15 foot high, 2000 watt, pole mounted type, high pressure sodium vapor
lamps. Is that consistent with what we are talking about here in terms of down lights. That is not
specified on the plan.
Mr. Randall said they worked with those folks on the lighting; he corrected the statement to say 200
watt. Regarding the pole lights, he said you should drive by San Juan Commons and the
Altzheimers facility to take a look. He said he feels pretty good about the lighting there -- 20
foot poles. He has been learning that there are some lights that are awful and some that do the
job pretty well and don't cascade light onto adjacent properties. High pressure sodium lights are
kind of a yellow light; they seem to be softer on the eyes and work better. He said the kind of
pole lights they have seen are typically the circular ones, and the box lights where it has a flat
lens and you can't see it from the side. This project is proposing 15 foot poles, the same kind of
light. San Juan's lights are probably 250 watts; this project is 200 watts. He said they didn't have
any complaints on the pole lights at San Juan Commons. They had lights on the side of the
building that were only partially shielded that people complained about, and were awful and they
got them to shield them. They had some bollard lights in the Altzheimers facility that were
technically shielded, but had mirrors behind a clear plastic that radiated light out rrom the side,
and they were awful too. He said he thinks the keyis to let people know right up front so they
have it right, or it can be easily modified. He thinks they are on the right track with this one.
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Mr. Harbison asked for Commission members to review the Conclusions on Page 10 and also
look at the recommendations beginning on Page 11, continuing on ages 12, 13, 14 and 15.
Mr. McDonagh called the Commission's attention to a memorandum dated September 22,
2000 from him to the Planning Commission. He said it is clarification of a condition he left out, and
he wanted to make sure the Commission considered it when looking at the rest of the findings,
conclusions and recommendations. He said the condition that was left out again deals with another
trail easement; the attached map highlights where that easement would go. He said this is an
easement the applicant would not be required to construct, but merely to reserve the easement to
provide future connection to the east toward the Cherry Street area.
Chair Harbison asked if that is something they need to add to conditions. Mr. McDonagh
answered affirmatively.
Mr. Irvin said the way that is drawn on there it looks like it is in that dedicated parcel.
McDonagh replied it would be within the open space parcel; some ofthe other portions of the trail
lie within those open space parcels. .
Mr. Arthur asked if the driveway in this is not the same as in the other one?
Mr. McDonagh said the site plan he gave to them was, Exhibit L, the first exhibit given this evening.
In the Findings and Conclusions, one of the conditions is that the driveway road approach
location will be shifted as far east as possible. Exhibit L,.Revised Site Plan, is the applicant's
effort, since they were informed of that condition, to show that road coming in as far to the east
as possible.
Mr. Ar!hur asked if the new trail has a way to get to Cherry Street.
Mr. McDonagh replied it would have no connection to Cherry Street at this point; there is an
intervening approximately 9 acre unplatted parcel. In the future, when something happens with
that adjoining vacant piece, they would work with the property owner to preserve that easement
and provide the linkage.
Mr. Irvin asked if the applicant's action would be to identify this easement when they turn over the
open area to whomever they turn it over to? Mr. McDonagh concurred.
Mr. Benskin asked concerning the trail.
Mr. McDonagh said there is another aspect to this project. The city is in the process of working to
relocate its sewer line and its easement as it crosses this property right now. It is essentially in
the same location up to the end ofthe Genesse Street right-of-way; if you start at F Street and go
north, the city sewer line and the city easement is right there, but north of the Genesse Street
right-of way, rather than making a sharp left turn, it more gradually angles toward the northwest
corner of the property. The city is proposing and hoping to relocate that line entirely to where the
trail is shown on the site plan. In the event that doesn't happen, that easement is not relocated,
the conditions in the Findings and-Conclusions would require them to preserve at least that
surface easement.
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Ms. Erickson said she was still trying to figure out how the elevation is working on the low spot on
the property and was wondering why the architect did not show favorably the low area of the east
side on Cherry Street. If the building is going down in a low spot, and they are mt going to fill,
is it correct it is almost a second story that Cherry Street residents are going to look at?
Mr. McDonagh said it is the other way around. It is properties that lie to the west of the site and to
the north and to the south would benefit chiefly from placing it in this topographic depression.
The folks on Cherry Street are up a little higher and would be looking down onto the project.
Ms Erickson said that since that seems to be one of the main concerns of the neighborhood, what
they have to look at, beside the esthetics of the building, the landscaping, the lighting, she said
she was not really comfortable yet this is what they are going to be looking at. It looks very tall,
because it is not sunken yet in that little hole. She was trying to figure why they did not get some
great view of how it is going to be smaller when the neighbors look out the window. She said it
is a good selling point to do it this way, but she is still uncomfortable with this.
Mr. Randall asked to address the Commission and said he and Mr. McDonagh went to the site,
walked it with the multi-family design standards in hand, and asked what they could do with this
site. Basically, when you are working with design standards, you are s:arting with what are the
existing conditions, where are the trees, where is the topography and how you can work with it.
He said they had not talked very much tonight about existing trees, but they saw some nice fruit
trees, very old; on the south side of the property, up against the east line, there is a nice row of
poplars, kind of in the Genesse Street right-of-way; down lower a couple smatterings of really
nice older fruit trees, probably a really old orchard associated with the farm. The first things they
would do in the specific multi-family design review is: 1) Tag the trees and say unless you
absolutely have to go through there with something, leave them alone ~- protect the roots, don't
knock them down. It takes a long time to grow trees back and get that softening. 2) They saw
the topography; the area on the south was higher. When you come from F Street, it seemed like
it rose a little bit. BCD does not have a topographic map now. One thing Mr. McDonagh talked
about in the Findings and Conclusions was to require the developer to prepare a topographic
survey of the site, so when they turn in their engineering plans locating the buildings, streets and
landscaping, BCD can look at it and say such things as, they shouldn't be removing dirt that
would provide effective screening, or if they cut in an area for the building, why not put that soil
in a place where they can berm something and start the landscaping on some higher earth. He
said they saw higher land at the south where the road is coming through; higher land on the west
side; he pointed out the lowest spot saying it was relatively flat, to the east and to the north a
little higher but relatively flat also. They originally had the building located further to the west,
and the Phase 2 parking lot on the east. BCD saw that and said ifthey move the building to the
center and site it in the low area, they limit the cutting -- get it as low as possible and probably
only have the upper story and the roof visible from San Juan. He said BCD hasn't seen a
detailed drainage plan and how it would work, but typically what happens is they try to get all the
stormwater to drain back to the facility, so the parking lot and the entry road are usually pretty
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close to the same elevation, or going down. If they could limit the cutting there to nearly the
road itself and leave some other higher areas, the first floor could be pretty effectively screened
from San Juan. The upper floor and roof would probably be visible. Looking down from Cherry
Street -- it is right there; what they thought could be done is take the spoils they cut out, do some
berming and get a head start on some landscaping there. From Tremont Street it is quite a
distance; again, they thought the landscaping would be a predominant way to do it. Regarding
the elevations (he showed the east and west elevations), the developers originally did not have
the two bumpouts along the walls; it was just a flat wall and a flat roof. They took a look at the
design standards as did BCD, and they came to the same conclusion. They added the two extra
gables and the extra modulation. With a single family scale -- one, two or three story houses --
typically houses on their narrowest side are somewhere between 20 and 40 feet wide, when you
have an end with a gable, usually 20, 24, 30 feet. He said these are within that range, so this is
rather single family scale as to the gables. If it has to be one building, as they were proposing,
we were trying to encourage them to add elements that were of scale to a single family house.
He pointed out trees, stating they were mature perhaps 15 - 20 year old trees; you can't transplant
trees that big, so you start off with something smaller. He said they are talking about placing
dense groupings of evergreen trees in line with the notches. You don't fool anybody into
thinking these are separate houses, but when these trees mature you get more the appearance of
breaking the facade -- not a wall oftrees. When you look at the hills in Port Townsend you see
house/trees, house/trees, house/trees; that is what they were encouraging them to do -- clump
trees, use evergreens and when they mature (it will take awhile), you would get some break up to
that facade. He suggested that maybe the architect would like to respond to some of the
questions.
Mr. Ruggles, Architect, addressed the graphic issue and said he did not want to be accused oftrying
to deceive the Commissioners by drawing the elevations and then put the horizon line half-way
through the building. He explained that they are correct, the building will sit down, sit low; there
will be higher topography around it. He said by drawing it that way he might have gotten more
opposition than by trying to show the building at its full elevation as if you were standing. . . .
He said that is why it is drawn this way; they could provide a drawing of what it would look like
from San Juan Avenue, F and Cherry Streets.
Ms. Erickson replied it would definitely be helpful to see what it would look like, especially for the
neighbors. She told Mr. Ruggles they have been very good at changing their design and trying to
meet their needs, and they really appreciate that, but since this is a conditional use (that now that
she has made a point of that) they need to take really special care that ifthey are going to approve
this, she needs to know what she is approving, what this is going to look like. She needs to make
sure the land that everybody is very concerned about is going to be written down and is going to
be here for the next 100 years, which is a important part of this project; and that the trees are
going to be there, be tall and green and doing what they are supposed to do. She said they are
hoping the golf course pond is not going to flood next winter because ofthis project; we want to
make sure it is not going to flood. We want to make sure the run-off is right. The problem with
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our saying it looks good, it sounds good, and everything, is we don't see all of it when we
approve it. We depend on you to make sure to do what is right, and that is what is
uncomfortable. She said she would like to see more of what they are going to have done before
they approve the whole thing. That is her concern, and she is not sure how to get to that point
without dragging this meeting on and on. She reiterated they have to depend on them, that they
are going to make sure all the guidelines are met. We hope that pond doesn't. . . ; we hope the
mature trees do this; we hope. . . -- you know. We want to make sure that it's done to the very
best of your ability, if we are going to OK this. She said to her that is what a conditional use is
for.
Mr. Randall said if it is any help, Mr. McDonagh was rather wrestling with how does work in this
multi- family design review when it is administrative and happens after the fact, and the CUP is
happening now. He told Mr. McDònagh to tell the Commission if there is anything in there, or if
there are certain things they see need to happen for this to be compatible, e.g. -- additional
screening needs to be provided on the east elevation; you have to put extra emphasis on this; or
you need to lower the roof line -- if there is some way, articulate that. He said for instance
stormwater, they feel very comfortable that the stormwater is going to be OK, because they have
had three or four drainage plans done in that same valley, and he thinks the engineering office is
pretty comfortable it is not going to affect the golf course. On other aspects of esthetics and
compatibility, the Commission can give them guidance, say go back and provide real elevations
showing how this building would look from a certain direction, and a certain distance in relation
to existing buildings and existing topography. Or you could say to provide that 1òr City CounciL
He noted that is good advice for future, that those things would be good to have up-front -- a
realistic view, not just a conceptual view by itself.
Ms. Erickson noted they had done that with the computer with the Port; they computer enhanced the
buildings so they got the picture and could see where the line was and the horizon. She said it
does help, especially when they are not living right there, but citizens are very concerned about it,
and they have to look at it every day.
Mr. Arthur asked if they have gone far enough to tell how much soil would be removed for this
building. Can you build with any reasonable thought some kind ofberming effect to the north to
immediately rather reduce the effect to the people who live on the Tremont side. Give me kind
of a feel for that.
Mr. Ruggles answered yes they could. They could take some scrapings on the side and push to the
north or wherever most necessary.
Mr. Spieckerman asked if that would affect ~he drainage.
Mr. Ruggles replied the Civil Engineer had left, but from what he understands the site percolates
rather well.
Mr. Spieckerman said one thing he thought he heard Mr. Randall speak of is to make contour maps -
- restore the contour. That seems to be in conflict with what we are talking about here.
Mr. Arthur concurred and said he is talking about building a mound.
Mr. Spieckerman said to Mr. Randall he believed in testimony someone made that there be a contour
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map made before and afterwards, so you restore the original contour which is in conflict with
what the discussion is right now.
Mr. Randall stated that normally what you get is existing topography and proposed topography so
you know your starting point and they show where they are proposing to go with it. He said if
BCD feels that proposed topography is either going too far in removing soil that provides a nice
screen and it isn't necessary to do what they are doing, or if BCD can find a different way to do
what they are doing to save some trees, or some hills, they do that. He said his experience is they
are going to end up with excess soil (he was not sure how much), because they are going to cut
that road in and cut the building site flat, and he thinks there are areas where they can use that to
do some berming and landscaping. He said he has been told they actually do have a topographic
survey, but it can't be introduced as evidence unless you reopen the hearing. They do have that
information they can provide us when we want to get there.
Mr. Ruggles said he was not sure that was a requirement -- to restore the original contour, but he is
sure if that is what they want . . .
Mr. Randall said that was not what he was referring to; they give them an existing contour map so
they know what it is now, and see what they are proposing and try to retain as much of the
existing topography especially that which provides screening, and those tools help them to say to
shift the road here; why are you doing all this cutting -- it looks like you are cutting just to cut;
maybe have a rock retaining wall rather than cutting the whole thing flat because that is the
easiest way to build it. He said the multi-family design standards talk a lot about retaining
existing topography; to soften the impact of new development that would be one of the tools we
would use to make sure that would get done.
Mr. Spieckerman said he assumed one ofthe things we are looking at here is the proposed design,
not the final design.
Mr. Ruggles said he believes it is subject to the multi-family design process.
Mr. Spieckerman asked if this is substantially what they are going to get, or how far have you taken
that?
Mr. Randall said this is rather where BCD left off with it, meeting with the developer and giving
them some direction they thought was a good start. He said he thought they could see in their
findings that one of BCD questions was if the roofline could be lowered, what pitch is it, what
would happen if you went to a 3/12 pitch if they have a 5/12 pitch?
Mr. Spieckerman said he was referring more to the visual effect of the single family dwelling you
described. Other than roof lines, if this substantially meets your criteria and the architect will
then proceed to finish the building on what we see here, or are they going to come back and we
will see something substantially different?
Mr. Randall said they hadn't seen colors, but they feel pretty comfortable. He said the direction is up
to the Commission. BCD's cards are they felt they could live with this, if this complied .with the
multi-family standards, given the situation, given the proximity of the buildings in this area--
San Juan Commons; the Altzheimer's facility (both large facilities); single family homes they do
have are quite a distance, 500 feet away; that their design is to have it in one building. What
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BCD has tried to do is make that work. If the Planning Commission feels you can't approve this
as one building, that it's not compatible, or you need more information to know the exact sizes of
those buildings or what is the relation to the site -- before you make that decision, you can give
specific direction on making this comply. Right now BCD is feeling fairly comfortable with the
overall design.
Mr. Spieckerman said he is fairly comfortable with the design. He asked if they had any discussions
with the neighbors concerning this design.
Mr. Ruggles replied this is a result of their discussion with the neighborhood, such things as a Porte
Cochere, modulated building, etc., falling into the criteria of multi-family design standards.
Mr. Arthur suggested if they did a plan that had the same four units per building, that would be
something like 16 buildings, two stories high, fourplexes sitting out there, wouldn't the visual
effect of that combination of buildings -- could it be that this is less impact. If we are really
talking about not eliminating anything from that whole 12 acre piece of property and keeping it
vacant -- if they were really going to use it and use it within what we have talked about, he
couldn't see where 16 units, two stories high with causeways and breezeways was a good option.
That sounds like something that is not workable; ifI lived in the neighborhood, rather than have
all those buildings spread out over all that land, it seems like the views could be more protected
from the neighborhood with this kind of arrangement, than some other alternative that has been
given to us this evening. He said he likes the idea of trying to protect the neighborhood from the
views, but reasoned it might be done better if these conclusions are abided by, there are trees
planted and sensitivity to the neighborhood, and open space protected -- outside of the city or
someone else purchasing the property and keeping it more open space. He did not see how you
do 16 buildings on that property and have less visual effect than you have with this. They are not
going to be lined up in rows, looking between buildings like a city street with houses on both
sides; he said he did not understand. The other part is, if there is a demand, and we are the urban
growth area in this state of urban growth controls, what option do we have to reject projects like
this? Don't we have to make space available? Ifwithin 7 or 10 miles the demand is 250 people,
isn't it our responsibility to react to that and allow those things to happen in this community, or
not?
Chair Harbison asked the Commission to consider a couple of things: 1) Are these
conclusions appropriate to either continue our discussion or to bring our discussion to a close; 2)
Are there recommendations you feel need to be added, or conditions that we need to add? Is there
more information we need from either the developer or from City Staffthat will help us in making a
decision to recommend this to Council -- so that we have some sense of where we go from here in
terms of making this decision, moving along the recommendation and conclusions to Councilor
considering this further at another meeting -- if there is pertinent information that we feel we don't
have in order to make this decision now?
Mr. Benskin agreed with Ms. Erickson, and indicated it would be nice to see the area where it
is. Mr. Harbison asked if there is a way for them to be more specific about what they need? He said
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the topographic information has been the piece that has been mentioned that may answer some of the
concern about what the building actually looks like visually. Is there other information or are there
other considerations that we would like to get? He said he is a little uncomfortable leading the
Commission toward this, but he would really like for them to see where they are on this and see what
action they can take or are not comfortable taking at this point and see what they need to do to move
it further.
Ms. Erickson said she would consider having this sent on to City Council with some of the
things they are requesting; it will be a closed hearing and the City Council will not be able to discuss
it. She said that is where some of her concern is and asked other Commission members if they are
all satisfied with the building, with what they are going to have. Can we conceptually figure it out,
and it is going to be OK? There are some parts you just have to leave up to codes and Staff, even
though you want to get your teeth into it with people's concerns. She said she did not particularly
want to hold this up. Then, there is also the concern about language, what the City Attorney would
recommend as far as the most guaranteed way the open space is going to be preserved. She said she
is not sure which direction that is going, whether or not they should be concerned with it or leave it
up to City Council. She said she is not ready to vote right now unless they can get some idea ofhow
much City Council would be able to make these decisions, if we passed it on to them.
City Attorney Watts stated with respect to language that would bind the property to open
space, the condition that is in the proposed Staff Recommendation indicates that would be a
document that would be acceptable to the BCD director as well as the City Attorney. The clear
intent is, it would be a perpetual easement. A city park -- everybody understands that to be
something in city ownership. There is no guarantee that sometime in the future the city couldn't say
they want to sell off that park. He said this situation is almost a stronger protection for open space
than a city park, because it is tied to a Land Use approval. As long as the use for which that Land
Use approval is a condition continues, the basis for the open space continues. He said if the
Commission wants to see specific language or specific documents that would be transfer documents,
the Commission could request to see those. Likewise, renderings or scale drawings of how the
building would look in this configuration in relationship to other features or other buildings, if the
Commission wants to see that before it makes a decision, the Commission is free to request that
information and maybe even make those renderings, or those drawings, conditions of approval. In
other words, that the product, the construction, would be in substantial conformance to particular
drawings. That would require postponement ofthis meeting for say 2 weeks, to allow the applicant
to respond; it would require reopening the hearing for a limiting purpose of allowing the application
to submit that additional information and allowing citizens to comment on whether or not the
rendering was accurate and any other comments they wish to have part of the record. He said he
doesn't see a way the Commission can take action tonight and forward a recommendation up to the
Council and have the Council receive new information. . .
Mr. Spieckerman said he would like to see if Mr. Randall could give them a statement that
what they see is substantially what they are going to get, that this does meet the multi- family design
standards. He didn't think they had heard that specific information yet -- yes or no. He said he took
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a little closer look at this, and to him it looks like a good design, but if this gets built, he doesn't want
to see something that mimics San Juan Commons.
Mr. Randall explained that San Juan Commons has elements that work well for it -- it is a big
building, the roofline is modulated, it is angled and the walls go in and out. It also has things that
work against it -- it's pink; it doesn't have evergreen trees around it; it is three stories; it's not hidden
by any topography. He said BCD is comfortable with this design; they haven't looked at the detail of
the windows and some ofthe other things, but he thinks they are probably 85% to 90% comfortable
with this building. Working with the topography, he thinks there can be some really nice things done
that can really use the topography to advantage to minimize the visual impact to the neighbors.
Mr. Spieckerman concurred and said he thinks those are details to work out. He would like
to include, if we are going to vote tonight, that the building final design would look substantially as
we see it tonight. Mr. Randall said they could do that by Condition A, page 11 of Findings and
Conclusions -- "Development shall be carried out in substantial conformance with the site plan
. .." and we could add "and with the conceptual elevations, Exhibit Q." That would tie it with
what you see. You wouldn't see something all of a sudden that is flat, different colors, etc. Mr.
Spieckerman recommended they do that.
Mr. Benskin asked about changing the look.
Mr. Spieckerman indicated the word "Substantial" would be satisfactory to him. .
Mr. Randall: "Substantial cOhformance" is usually the language used when Council and Planning
Commission are reviewing site plans. The ultimate final approval happens at BCD where maybe
they tweak the landscaping, etc., but "substantial conformance" is usually used.
There was a question from the audience. Mr. Harbison asked if it were a procedural question.
Audience: They asked about being two story, these aree1derly people, about a fire escape type deal
when you have elevators.
Mr. Harbison made the assumption that since one of the conditions is that it will undergo and receive
multi-family residential development standards and meet building codes that those things are
addressed within that forum.
Mr. Randall: Building code does deal with minimum number of egresses, ingresses, etc., distances
from dwelling units and getting out of the building to safe places, etc. That is a big part of the
building code.
Ms. Erickson questioned parking spaces, 28 parking spaces and 22 employees. Does that sound
right?
Mr. Spieckerman: That is round the clock employees -- shifts.
Mr. Fronk clarified: The employee count is traditionally the total. This facility would employ a
maximum load 7 to 8 employees at one time.
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MOTION
AFFIRM STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND
APPROVE THE CUP WITHOUT ADDITIONAL
CONDITIONS
Mr. Irvin
SECOND Ms. Erickson
AMENDMENT approved by maker and seconder:
AFFIRM STAFF
APPROVE THE
CONDITIONS
RECOMMENDATIONS AND
CUP WITH ADDITIONAL
DISCUSSION:
Mr. Watts clarified for the record, his understanding is the additional conditions are: in the draft
recommendation prepared by Staff in Condition A, language would be added, "and conceptual
elevations in Exhibit Q" and also a reference to the applicant being required to establish a second
non-motorized trail easement, 20' in width across the south line of tax lot 52.
Mr. Harbison: Item e, Page 13.
Mr. Spieckerman said that he also proposed including the words that the elevation substantially
reflects the exhibit.
Mr. Harbison explained that is what was added to Condition A -- we have added the conceptual
elevations.
Mr. Arthur asked on an open space situation, who manages the open space?
Mr. Randall: If it's the Land Trust, I would assume the Land Trust would. That was one of the
options.
Mr. Arthur: Before the Land Trust, we were talking about the city would condition the 6 acres --what
does that mean? Baseball fields? Soccer fields? Who decides; how does it work?
Mr. : If that is not clear perhaps that should say "undisturbed open space." He said he thinks the
intent is that it would be undisturbed opened space, or natural open space, and that the document
that is made to the Land Trust would specify what uses could occur there also. He said he didn't
know if those typically allow agriculture or if they are pretty restrictive.
Mr. Watts: Usually in a conservation easement you can't do anything, unless it is for safety reasons-
- there is a dead or diseased tree that needs to be cut down, and you would be able to cut that
down. Otherwise, the intent is to preserve the natural state of the land.
Mr. Spieckerman: Does the Land Trust want the property?
Mr. Watts said he understands there have been some discussions and asked if the applicant could
clarify that.
Mr. Sepler, Madrona Planning: They have been in discussions with the Land Trust since the project
originated. The proponents' desire was to donate the property fee simple to the Land Trust,
entirely to them. The Land Trust informed them 2 days ago they don't desire to receive it fee
simple because oflong-term maintenance issues. However, they may consider it as a fee simple
gift if they are allowed to enact a conservation easement to restrict all uses except for open space
or perhaps organic gardening, if that could be worked out and then be allowed to convey it to
someone else. He said they replied today to the Land Trust that would be acceptable. In
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addition, the proponent is working with our Washington State University for a similar
conservation easement to be established. There are two processes to achieve this.
Mr. Arthur: Still regarding open space, effectively the City says that it is open space and it is open
for people who might decide or might not decide what is going to happen there. It isn't
controlled by the City Parks Department or anybody like that; it is just out there on the Imp?
Mr. Watts explained that if an easement is placed against the property, the ownership ofthe property
remains with the owner; it is not city property. The city doesn't assume a maintenance
obligation. There is a restriction placed against the use, depending upon what kinds of
conditions are imposed. Typically the conservation easement is a protection of the property in its
natural state. If the property is trànsferred to a Land Trust, they would assume the ownership as
well as the responsibility of maintaining it in accordance with whatever conditions or restrictions
are placed against the property. It is rather no man's land, but underlying it is not the city, it is
going to be the property owner or a Land Trust non-profit that is acceptable to the city who
would become the owner and the manager of the property in a manner that would be consistent
with conditions that are placed against the property by the city.
Mr. Arthur: If you put a condition in here that sets up who will maintain or do this -- at this time
there is no system for deciding open space. Is there no history in how you deal with open space
issues other than what you have just verbalized?
Mr. Watts: A useful clarification to Paragraph e in the draft finding would be whether or not a
conservation easement means an undisturbed or native growth conservation easement, meaning
that the land would be left in an untouched state, except for maybe trails or observation points. It
wouldn't be developed for active use like ball parks or play grounds. When people speak of
open space, the general understanding is that trails, are OK, but baseball fields are not compatible
with the open space. Steep slopes, view corridors, etc. are commonly understood to mean that
the land will remain as it is. If the Commission has a different view of what it believes is
appropriate, this is the time to clarify it.
Mr. Arthur said he is just wanting to see how it will look, and then you make assumptions based on a
very liquid foundation that you think it will end up looking like this, and it doesn't. He said, you
clarified it -- there is no process; that is basically it. In terms of the neighbors being able to look
at this and say it is always going to be a field, they are always going to planttrees on it, etc., we
are not conditioning the project to say that.
Mr. Harbison: Page 11, paragraph e,
Mr. Watts: 11 e states it is going to be a conservation easement. That would restrict plantings of new
species. That could include trails, and observation points, but it would not include ball fields.
Conservation easement has a conceptual under~tanding to it.
Mr. Randall stated the developers have indicated they would like that language to say,
"Preserved as undeveloped, undisturbed open space or organic agriculture." They would like to
allow those uses. Mr. Harbison said to Commission, if they would like to add that to the
recommendation, let's add that to the motion on the floor.
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Ms. Erickson: Organic agriculture, you are basically farming it -- undisturbed open space is
farmland, which is different than what it is now.
Mr. Randall concurred and said BCD is not necessarily recommending it.
Mr. Benskin: Think it should be added -- "remain as undisturbed"
Mr. Randall: I don't know if you want to add, "with the exception oftrails."
Chair Harbison suggested they could add on line 30f e -- "totaling approximately 6 acres
that shall be formally preserved as undisturbed open space." He asked if that would be an
appropriate addition that meets the concerns?
Mr. Spieckerman asked for the City Attorney to clarify if tl).at does.
Mr. Watts: This is not necessarily the exact language that would end up in a restrictive type
document, but as conceptual language, it is good to add the word "undisturbed," but would
suggest adding privacy except for pedestrian trails. If tbe city approved it, that would allow for
some latitude, if the city felt it appropriate to allow trails. If that is not consistent with the
Planning Commission view, that is fine. He said he waS just trying to clarify it, so if in 5 to 10
years the issue comes up we have some guidance as to wbat is and what is not permitted, or what
needs to go into a restrictive covenant document.
Mr. Spieckerman: Who would make those decisions? Would that be the Planning Department, or
would that be the Non-Motorized Committee?
Ms. Erickson spoke of comments they had received in letters about wildlife corridors. If you make
trails through there, there goes the wildlife corridor --let's leave it alone. Now we are going to
change what even the letters were -- most of the people said open space, wildlife corridors. My
idea was natural -- leave it alone, 6 acres. If it goes to a Land Trust, won't they just leave it
alone? If it is open to trails, how many trails -- bike trails?
Mr. Randall: On the site plan, you just have just the one easement between the building and the open
space, and then the multi-user trail. I don't think we need more than that; if it is limited to
"consistent with the approved site plan," I think we would be OK.
Ms. Erickson: I think we have a definition for open space; is that going to be the definition for this?
Mr. Watts thought it goes beyond space, because the proposed condition also includes the phrase,
"conservation easement" and that has a general understanding. Weare strengthening or adding
to that. The proposal on the table is "undisturbed" but we are not going to add anything with
reference to trails. The only word that is going to be added to that paragraph in connection with
conservation easement is to add the one word "undisturbed."
AMENDED MOTION
AFFIRM STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND APPROVE
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(Additional conditions: 1) Added to Condition A, page 11 "and conceptual elevations in
Exhibit Q"; 2) reference to the applicant being required to
establish a second non-motorized trail easement, 20' in width
across the south line of tax lot 52 added to paragraph 3 of page
13; 3) Add "undisturbed" to "open space" in Condition E
VOTE PASSED 5 IN FAVOR; MS. OT A AND MR. BENSKIN OPPOSED
Mr. Watts clarified that the Planning Commission just voted 5 to 2 to approve the conditional
use permit application with conditions that were reflected in the Staff Report. He indicated it should
be clarified that the balance of the document called "Conditional Use Permit" is also approved as
modified by the previous action. Just so it is clear that the entire document is accepted as the
recommendation which will be forwarded to the Council, we would be looking for a motion to
approve the document called "Conditional Use Permit" as modified in the same respects as the .
conditions as the Commission just took action.
MOTION
Ms. Erickson
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT LUPOO-039 IN ITS
ENTIRETY BE PASSED ON TO CITY COUNCIL
WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE SAME
MODIFICATIONS TO CONDITIONS AS IN THE
PREVIOUS VOTE
SECOND Mr. Arthur
VOTE PASSED, 5 IN FAVOR; MS. OT A AND MR. BENSKIN OPPOSED
VII. UPCOMING MEETINGS
October 12,2000
VIII. COMMUNICATIONS -- Current Mail
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn the meeting was made by Mr. Irvin and seconded by Mr. Benskin. All
were in favor. The meeting adjourned 12:12 p.m.
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Sheila Avis, Minute Taker
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT -- LUP #00-39
Port Townsend Assisted Living, LLC
Date: August 15,2000
Exhibits:
:Exhibit A:
Exhibit B:
Exhibit C:
Exhibit D:
Exhibit E:
Exhibit F:
Exhibit G:
Exhibit H:
Exhibit I:
ExhibitJ :
Exhibit K:
Conditional Use Application and attachments, dated June 9,2000
SEP A Checklist, dated June 9, 2000
Site Plans
SEP A MDNS, dated August 16, 2000
Appeal Letter, dated August 31, 2000
Comment Letters
Excerpts from Planning Commission Findings of Fact; Proposed Amendments to
Title 17, dated May 17, 1999
PTMCI7.16.020, Land Use Table
Selected definitions, PTMC 17.09
Excerpts from Minutes of the Planning Commission, dated April 8, 1999
Multifamily Development Standards, PTMC 17
Exhibits added at the Public Hearing of September 28. 2000:
Exhibit L: Revised Site Plan
Exhibit M: Copy of the last page of the SEP A checklist signed by the applicant's agent
Exhibit N: Conditional Use Permit Approval Criteria prepared for Port Townsend Assisted
Living
Letter from P.T. Family Physicians
Revised Landscaping and Site Plan
Revised Colored Elevations
Facade Comparison between San Juan Commons versus Port Townsend Assisted
Living
Exhibit S: Attorney -- Article with reference to conversion of Meany Hotel to a Senior
Housing Facility
Exhibit T: Tl -- Bulk and Dimensional Requirements for CI and CII/MU, Mixed Use Zones
Exhibit 0:
Exhibit P:
Exhibit Q:
Exhibit R:
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Exhibit U: Mr. Randall's memorandum dated September 21,2000
Exhibit V: Definition of Assisted Living Services from the WAC 388.10.02
Exhibit W:Definition of Efficiency Dwelling Unit from the 1977 UBC
Exhibit X: History of Senior Housing in Port Townsend
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