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CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND
PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
Council Chambers, 7:00 PM
Business Meeting
September 17, 1998
I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
III. COMMUNICATIONS: Current mail
IV. OLD BUSINESS
V. NEW BUSINESS
A.
Ron Pak (Tides Inn Motel), (Open-Record Public Hearing)
Shorelines Conditional Use Permit No. LUP9211-03
1. Staff Report (Jeff Randall)
2. Public Testimony
3. Committee Report (John Boles/Lois Sherwood)
4. Commission Discussion and Conclusions
B. Kimm & Lawrence Fay, (Open-Record Public Hearing)
Variance Application No. LUP98-47
1. Staff Report (Bruce Freeland)
2. Public Testimony
3. Committee Report (Karen Erickson/Nik Worden)
4. Commission Discussion and Conclusions
VI. ANNOUNCEMENTS: Next Scheduled Meetings
September 24, 1998
October 1, 1998
October 8, 1998
October 15, 1998
October 29, 1998
Comprehensive Plan Amendments, Workshop
Parks & Recreational Plan, Workshop
1998 Comprehensive Plan Amendments, Public Hearing
Finalize Comp Plan Amendment Recommendations to CC
Parks & Recreational Plan, Public Hearing
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Business Meeting
September 17, 1998
1.
ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall by Chair
Cindy Thayer. Other members in attendance were Karen Erickson, Lois Sherwood, John Boles,
and Craig Johnson. Nik Worden was excused. Staff members present were Bruce Freeland and
Jeff Randall.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
There were no minutes for approval.
III. COMMUNICATIONS: Current Mail
~ Letter of response dated September 4, 1998 from City Attorney McMahan to Mr. Denny
LaVigne's letter of September 1, 1998
~ Packet for September 24, 1998 meeting
N. OLD BUSINESS
There was no old business.
V. NEW BUSINESS
Chair Thayer noted the two public hearings to be considered and suggested approximate
hearing times of 1.5 to 2 hours for the Ron Pak, Tides Inn Motel, hearing; and 1.5 hour for the
Kimm & Lawrence Fay hearing.
A. Ron Pak (Tides Inn Motel) -- Open-Record Public Hearing
Shorelines Conditional Use Permit No. LUP9211-03
Planning Commissioner Karen Erickson recused herself and left the hearing.
1. Staff Report -- Mr. Jeff Randall, Building and Community Development
Department (BCD)
Mr. Randall introduced the application which proposes:
~ Construction of 21 motel units in two buildings adjacent to the existing Tides Inn Motel
~ Parking facilities for 13 additional guest vehicles for the motel and 5 public parking spaces
~ A shoreline walkway path to be open to the public adjacent to Port Townsend Bay
~ Off-site parking on the west side of Walker Street for public parking
~ Development of the Walker Street right-of-way for a street-end public park
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~ Parking facilities in ftont of the motel
~ Street improvements along Water Street
Permits required for the project include:
~ Environmental review under SEP A
~ Shoreline Substantial Development and Conditional Use Permit
~ Hydraulic Project Approval (a shoreline permit issued by the Department ofFish and
Wildlife)
~ Public Works street and utility development permits
~ Building Permits
Mr. Randall reviewed the history of the project going back to the time in 1992
when Mr. John Pickett was the owner. He pointed out differences in the project at that time:
Previous Project included:
~ 36·unit motel complex, 3 stories in one building
~ SEPA Mitigated Determination of Non-Significance (MDNS) issued May 11, 1994 by BCD
staff who determined there would be no significant probable environmental impacts subject
to 15 mitigation measures that were imposed.
~ Appeals received during the process ftom the above-bluff property owners Stewart and
Elinor Nelson and later assigned to James and Nelly Tretter include view impacts ftom
Water Street and ftom the bluff above, "tunnel" impacts along Water Street, and light and
glare impacts.
~ In response to the appeal, Staff and the developer agreed to prohibit windows along Water
Street and to limit the types of lighting that could be done in the parking lot.
~ The appeal continued and concluded in June 1995 when Council upheld the original MDNS,
but required significant modifications to the proposal, including limiting to 24 units, broken
into two buildings to preserve view corridors, and identified the design concept entitled
"preferred alternative. "
Mr. Pak purchased the property in 1997 ftom Mr. Pickett. Mr. Randall pointed
out the rules and regulations that govern this project were the ones in effect at the time of
application in 1992.
Mr, Pak continued the project submittin~ a pf(~posal in 1997 with:
~ HPC design review (condition of the 1994 MDNS) completed spring/summer 1998;
~ Additional environmental review reopened for various design changes:
1. proposed new parking on the west side of Walker Street (Indian Point is owned by Mr.
Pak);
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2. modified development of the street-end park (the parking would be used completely for
the public park and access to and ftom the site);
3. Officer & Gentleman suites retained (3 motel units in a one-story building) changing the
foot print location ftom the "preferred alternative";
4. windows along Water Street, and slightly different lighting proposed in the parking lot.
SEPA review was completed August 19, 1998.
The City issued some additional mitigation measures
1. modifying lighting conditions
2. permitting windows along Water Street
but generally finding no significant adverse environmental impacts ftom the changes in the
design proposed by Mr. Pak.
Comments additional to those ftom the 1994 - 1995 review have been received,
the most significant comments ftom the above·cliff property owners: Mrs. Cotton, Mrs.
Van Wetter, Mr. and Mrs Tretter, again with concerns.
Si~ficant issues now raised:
~ view impacts
~ consistency with the preferred alternative originally approved by the City Council
~ design characteristics of the new buildings, including chimneys approved by HPC and their
effect upon views
~ *traffic and air impacts, etc.
*(Mr. Randall said staff did not readdress many issues addressed by the original SEP A
determination; e.g., no traffic impact as a result of fewer motel rooms.)
~ building heights --
Progression of determination on building heights:
1994 SEPA listed maximum building height in this area as 35' -- referenced ftom Shoreline
Master Program (SMP).
September 6, 1994 appeal hearing, City Council determined there were adverse environmental
impacts that were not adequately mitigated by the MDNS issued by BCD and concluded the
height of Mr. Pickett's current proposal should be reduced from three to two stories (24') and
that the length of the building should be limited to 100'.
Council concurred impacts identified at the September 6 hearing could be addressed by
voluntary redesign modification of the project proposal and ordered the project remanded to
the SEP A Official for revision of the proposal to address the view impacts and tunneling
impacts associated with bluff properties and Water Street.
June 5, 1995 appeal hearing, staff, applicant, and architect's designers proposed voluntary
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redesign to mitigate those impacts and recommended Council approve a preferred
alternative, uphold the MDNS, and reject the appellant's request to reduce the height to 24'
with the additional mitigation measures of reducing the motel ftom 36 to 24 units, breaking
up the buildings, etc.
Appellant continued to oppose the project, as revised, but at the conclusion of testimony and
deliberation, Council affinned the SEP A Official's conclusion that the MDNS should be
affirmed, as further mitigated by the voluntary conditions proposed by the Applicant.
Mr. Rand~ll's Conclusions:
~ Required to return to the MDNS as further conditioned by the City Council Appeal of
Determination for the four mitigation measures; a picture of the preferred alternative
showing three stories indicating a maximum height of 35'.
Mr. Dave Robison was quoted in the minutes of the June 5, 1995 hearing that height is measured
from average grade to average gable height of a gabled building, which is consistent with the
Uniform Building Code and how the BCD Department measured height. (References 12 to
14)
~ It does not come out and expressly say that the maximum building height for the project is
35' except in reading the documents as shown, but nowhere in the documents do they
conclude that building height is less than 35', so you fall back to maximums in the codes.
~ The role tonight is to issue a recommendation to the City Council on the Shoreline
Substantial Development Conditional Use Permit. Shoreline policies and goals; public
access plan goals; Waterfront goals; Conditional Use Permit criteria and analysis are
outlined and incorporated by reference in the Staff Report
BCD recommends:
~ approval of the project and recommends that it be found that the project is consistent
with the preferred alternative subject to additional comment received tonight, and
· approve the development subject to consistency with the site plans provided, with the
only caveat that recommended condition #2 (Page 15 of Staff Report) be modified to
widen the public sidewalk on Water Street and the public walkway in front of the
buildings to 5' as required by the Comprehensive Public Access Plan, and Port
Townsend Streetscape Design Workbook.
Mr. Randall noted shoreline improvements, also considered significant issues.
Shoreline improvements include:
~ Rip rap -- letters from DOE and Fish & Wildlife
~ Modification of landscape of beach
~ Soft bank
~ Gravel pathway, as recommended by Fish & Wildlife
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Questions of Staff:
Ms. Thayer If the project was vested as of 1992, why is there not an open record hearing
for Council?
Mr. Randall Upon purchase in 1997, Mr. Pak contacted the City regarding the status of the
project. He was assured the project was valid and vested under 1992 codes;
however, for ease of procedure he agreed to follow current Title 20
procedures (Exhibit 7). If they were old procedures, they would be using the
Shoreline Commission which no longer exists.
Ms. Sherwood
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What is the current setback from the highway of the Seaman Sign Building?
Believe there is no setback on the highway side; approximately 15 -20 feet
from the water side.
Mr. Boles
Madrona document, Exhibit 3B, page 3, paragraph D, column 2 says,
"Enhancement and extension of the proposed shoreline walkway will cause
unreasonable adverse effects, . . . "
Clarified it should read, ". . . . will cause no reasonable adverse effects, . . . "
Staff report, page 2, paragraph 1, and elsewhere: "The applicant proposes two
motel buildings approximately fifteen (15) feet ftom the ordinary high water
mark. . . ." The 1989 SMP, and other documents, e.g., May 11, 1994 SEPA
MDNS, page 7, states it is from the high water mark or the edge of the bank,
whichever is greater. It seems the "whichever is greater" has been dropped.
Would you clarify ifthe May 11, 1994, page 7, quoting of the SMP is correct,
and if correct, which should be operable? It is not clear that the one chosen is
the greater distance. On page 7, it is talking about, "under the 1989 Shoreline
Master Program's policies and standards, it should not block views, etc. . . . .
all structures and parking facilities must be set back 15 feet ftom the bank's
edge or the ordinary high water mark, whichever is greater."
That is what the MDNS indicates. The 1989 SMP Master Shoreline, page 29,
Port Townsend Urban Waterfront Special District, Section 3, Performance
Standards, "Setback for non-water dependent elements of developments
within the Port Townsend Waterfront Special District," which this is, "shall
be a minimum of 15 feet ftom the ordinary high water mark, except for those
structures within the Water Street National Historic District where there is no
standard minimum setback ftom the ordinary high water mark. The last
phrase does not apply; this project is not in the Historic District. I would have
to say that the MDNS is incorrect as to the reference, that it should read 15
feet from the ordinary high water mark.
That is well documented and is what was determined?
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Correct. (Referenced in the Staff Report as the 1989 SMP.)
Staff Report, page 1, Proposal Description; Exhibit 1 (Tides Inn Motel
Shoreline Detail Site Plan, 7/29/98); Exhibit 9 (Tides Inn Motel Landscape
Planting Plan 2/10/98). 1) regarding the number of parking spaces, if you
compare these two site plans, the parking spaces and the layout, especially in
ftont of the two buildings, are not the same, as I read them. What is correct --
how many parking spaces are there in the current proposal?~ 2) Could we
reconcile my understanding of the possible discrepancies between the two
layouts, where the parking spaces are, particularly spaces 1 and 2, and the
location of the dumpster and the landscaping plan?
For the parking design, look at Shoreline Site Plan as controlling. The reason
for the is, the Shoreline Site Plan was a revised site plan based on the DOE's
ordinary high water mark detem1ination. The Landscaping Plan, which is
dated earlier, was based on a different understanding of where the ordinary
high water mark would be. When the DOE was done, it turned out that the
ordinary water mark was further landward than originally estimated, causing
the buildings, especially Building A on the east side, to be moved a little
toward Water Street. In order to meet those setbacks, the applicant was
required to modify the parking layout and eliminate the location of a parking
space.
It appears they have gained a parking space inunediately in front where the
dumpster was; the space in front of the dumpster has been enlarged.
The dun1pster has. been relocated. They lost two parking spaces; it is a
redesign of that area in ftont of Building A, where there were five spots. By
moving Building A closer to the street, you limit the area to drive through
there; to continue to have the diagonal parking, there is not sufficient room to
have cars pass back and forth, and they had to eliminate 'two parking spaces.
The area reserved for the dumpster is a little bit bigger and is just a different
arrangement. The Landscaping Plan should be looked as controlling for
landscaping, although some other elements are no longer valid. This is a
preliminary Landscaping Plan.
Staff Report, Page 1-- description of parking states ". . . (11) off·street parking
spaces would be provided in front of the motel and an additional û~irteen (13)
spaces. .. The one dated July 29, 1998 is controlling and there are, 10
spaces in ftont of the motel, not 11.
They did not count the 15 minute parking space.
The loading zone between spaces 7 and 8. (Requested subsequently to be
provided with better maps.)
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In parking then, there is a net of 11 in front, and 13 off to the side, 5 of which
are designated for the public.
Correct.
Do I understand there was a stipulation in the site plan of July 29, 1998, that
there be one way traffic ftom the east entrance to the west entrance; thus
anybody entering the west entrance is forced for parking to the westernmost
parking spaces, including those designated for the public.
That is correct.
I didn't see references to signs that will limit the parking to sometime less
than 24 hours. Is there any other designation that is proposed that will help
protect those spaces for the public access, as opposed to use by the patrons?
Clear signages -- referenced in the Staff Report that Council, or whoever deals
with parking, would have the authority to identify the length of stay for those
public parking spaces, and perhaps could be done with Police Department
enforcement.
Is there any notion as to how the city intends to have the entrance signs, so
that one might be the main entrance to the motel, as opposed to the one
eastern bound people on Water Street would encounter?
The applicant has not submitted sign permits yet. That is a good question, I
would like to reserve that question for them. Perhaps the main sign should be
encouraged to provide a west entrance. It is very likely we would require a
public parking sign adjacent to the Walker Street entrance, and public beach
access signs. etc.
Applauded Mr. Randall - thought it was very well presented and very clear.
Go back to 35 foot height. Is my understanding correct there was never a
proposal directly considered by the City Councilor other bodies that related
directely to the final proposal where all of the main buildings are 35 feet?
This was the last depicted in Exhibit 7, and it had some heights that were 35
feet, but not all were 35 feet, and the reference of35 feet came out of 1989
SMP policies that they cannot exceed 35 feet. It started out in history as the
City Council saying 24 feet, two stories, then they modified that there were
design alternatives that could meet the mitigating circumstances, but Council
never said that all the roof heights can or should be 35 feet. It appeared that it
sort of became an invitation, that consistency with the preferred alternative
would be measured by somebody, or some group, having seen a proposal with
all 35 foot heights, and that wasn't the case.
You are correct~ 24 feet was considered and later rejected. Reading that the
Council adopted the preferred alternative, they stated that mitigations of view
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impacts could be done through other measures, adopted the preferred
alternative as another measure, and rescinded the original limitation of 24 feet
totally, the reference to those previous restrictions, and instead went with four
additional mitigation measures and the reference to the preferred alternative.
For our reference then, Exhibit 7 was what was before them and what they
looked at as the preferred alternative, though they recognized other designs
may have been accurate, or may have done the job as well?
Deferred to the applicant's responses, but said there was a variety of
proposals submitted.
Were there other hard copy proposals in front of them that were different?
There were actually different proposals, and they selected the preferred
alternative as the most desirable.
Are we to infer that the maximum height here, of the cupula, or the ridge, is
35 feet?
That is a conceptual design. The maximum height for that building would be
measured at the gable of what you are calling the cupula, and could not
exceed 35 feet. There are no measurements on that building, but on the
building before you, the average gable height is 32' 7", as I understand it. To
inteJject, there is reference to roof design in the City Council's Appeal
Determination, dated June 19, 1995, page 14, lO.e., "The original proposal
will be revised consistent with a revised architectural design which
incorporates. . . . gable roof forms" (your first lead) ". . . . and varied
building heights. . ." They didn't say, "x feet high," but they did approve a
design which had a third story and said "varied building heights" and "gable
roof forms." They left it a little loose; that is my interpretation.
The proposal before us dated September 17, 1998, page 4, paragraph 14,
"Public access would be provided. . . . " second line "a meandering concrete
path through the street-end park. . . " As I understand your presentation and
the Exhibit I drawing, that is, in fact a gravel walk. Is that correct?
Correct. That is my mistake. I believe the connection ftom the beach access
to the parking lot is also proposed for gravel. One reason, if people were
unloading kayaks, they are so heavy they could be dragged through the gravel
and not be scuffed too badly.
It is concrete in front of the building, but a meandering gravel path consistent
with the other paths that are all gravel as well?
Correct. I believe the developer is considering changing the path between the
two buildings to concrete.
In your presentation you referred to 4 foot pathways, then to 5 foot pathways.
May 11, 1994 SEP A MDNS (Exhibit 4) Proposal Description, paragraph 2
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states, "The proposal includes the construction of a 6 foot wide public access
walkway ("waterwalk") along the shoreline and. . . . " I don't know that was
ever modified anywhere other than in the plans before us.
Mr. Randall That was probably based on the preliminary plan originally submitted in
November. 1 am not aware of any conditions anywhere in the SEP A
documents that say the waterwalk path is 6 foot. What we have betore us is
the revised alternative with 4 feet, and code says 5 foot minimum. That
proposal that no longer exists.
2. Public Testimony
At 7:50 p.m. Chair Thayer opened the publíc hearing beginning with the
applicant's presentation.
TESTIFYING FOR TH.E APPLICÁNT
Mr. Rick SepÌer, Madrona Planning Services
Swore and affirmed that the testimony he was about to give was true to the best of his
knowledge.
Mr. Sepler acknowledged the applicant and those who would be speaking on the
applicant's behalf:
Mr. Ron Pak, Applicant
Mr. Craig Chaney, Merrick Lentz Architects, providing an overview of design process that went
trom conceptual alternatives to the actual project
Ms. Ande Grahn, Madrona Planning Services, specifically talking about shorelíne criteria
Mr. Sepler said they would like to amend their application to 5 foot sidewalks to correct
their oversight, and additionally they will provide material for appropriate signage.
Mr. Sepler indicated they had been involved in this project somewhat continuously since
1995. He applauded Stafftòr doing a thorough job and said they belíeve Statlanalysis of the
project in conformance with the codes is appropriate. He said they supported the Staff
recommendations and encouraged adopting the recommendations and approving the project.
He asked to be able to respond to any testimony at the conclusion of the hearing so as to provide
greater insight into the basis for some of the issues.
Mr. Sepler spoke of being institutional memory, that he could provide some guidance
from the applicant's point of view, and noted that City Council minutes are avaiíable and
provide complete text of what occurred. He said the proposal is an evolution and represents the
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best of jurisdictions and parties working together to find a harmonious project for a site that is
very important. He outlined the project as follows:
It is the first sight people see when they turn toward the historic downtown area. The
design team has worked at great lengths to provide a beautiful background building, a building
that is a good entry, and one that provides public use.
Initially the proposal was for a 3-story, 36·unit rectilinear building, offering no visual
relief and was somewhat nondescript. The proposal made in 1992 was vested and was subject to
SEP A review. An appeal was submitted and sustained. At that point Madrona Planning
Services became involved to see if there was a reasonable way to accommodate the
community's purposes as well as achieve the applicant's desire. City Council was asked to
reconsider their determination, and Madrona suggested there were a number of alternatives that
could be investigated to meet the constraints of the Shorelines Master Program and the Urban
Waterftont Plan. Madrona demonstrated graphically this might not be the best configuration,
and Council agreed this was an appropriate venue to pursue and remanded it to Staff for
consideration, as noted by Mr. Randall.
Madrona came to Council with four alternatives of various configurations, noting that
they were conceptual in nature and the beginnings of dialogue. Council approved basically two
rectilinear boxes reducing the height of the buildings. Madrona voluntarily came forward and
reduced the project to 24 units and provided a specific example that showed modulation, the use
of gable forms and stepping. They discussed that it should not be limited to any specific
configuration.
A model was prepared as one possible solution, which was substantiated in the record.
That was somewhat the basis of Council's final adoption of the preferred alternative and was to
be the beginning of dialogue. It was felt that HPC, with proper guidance, could adequately
determine what could be appropriate for the project. Mr. Sepler said they acknowledge the
project that has evolved has a clear and distinct lineage. He suggested that a review of the
record would clearly indicate that Council wanted to preserve view corridors.
Mr. Sepler noted the Council and Planning Commission role, and said that Madrona
agrees they reserve the right to modify SEP A on issues identified, but feels the project has been
thoroughly reviewed at the SEP A level. He said it has gone through one of the most rigorous
reviews in terms of esthetics, views and the impacts on those. Mr. Sepler introduced the
applicant Mr. Ron Pak noting his establishment of vision from conceptual model to an actual
proj ect.
Mr. Robert Pak, Applicant (Tides Inn)
Swore and affirmed that the testimony he was about to give was true to the best of his
knowledge.
Mr. Pak said before he purchased the Tides Inn Motel, he was given information ftom
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Mr. and Mrs. Pickett that they got approval ftom SEPA for 24 units. He said he was attracted to
the beauty of Port Townsend; this did not match the beauty of Port Townsend, and he wanted to
make this project a focal point at the entrance of the tourist attraction of Port Townsend.
He said he bought it and reduced the three units; he had many requests ftom guests and
local people to keep the Officer & Gentlemen unit. He said he had not wanted to deviate ftom
any regulations or rules, but wanted to build a beautiful building still under the guidelines of the
local government. He said he discussed this with the architect and others to create a beautiful
building without destroying any customs, even though it would cost more. He said this project
may contribute to the artistry of Port Townsend with use of his exhibition of art work.
Mr. Pak said he had tremendous support and encouragement from the Chamber of
Commerce of Port Townsend and others and thanked them for their support. He said he feels he
has done what he had to do in meeting codes and regulations, but feels obliged to listening to the
ladies and gentlemen of the Planning Commission about any good advice. He said he feels a
part of member of company tonight.
Mr. Craie Chaney, Merrick Lentz Architects
Swore and affirmed that the testimony he was about to give was true to the best of his
knowledge.
Mr. Chaney said when the preferred alternative was done, the Officer & Gentleman suite
had been removed. He said the owner was very emphatic that those were an important part of
the nature of the motel and how people perceived the motel, and it has great value to him and to
the facility. They tried to adhere to the preferred alternative, at the same time attempting to
maintain the Officer & Gentleman suite, if they could.
First they reduced the building ftom a 24 to 21-unit project and took into account the
thinking behind the preferred alternative to try to maintain view corridors, reduce canyoning
along Water Street, and provide public access. Although there was some preliminary discussion
regarding a street-end park at Walker Street, no design, only a schematic, was ever provided, but
there was always parking shown in it.
Mr. Chaney said they decided early on in their planning that if they were going to provide
an amenity for the city, they wanted to try to provide as much amenity as possible. Mr. Pak was
willing to accommodate parking off site for the park instead of within the right-of-way itself,
and Mr. Chaney said the particular view corridor the city aims to protect ,,,,ill not have cars
sitting in it. It is a straight-on-through view corridor. He said when you enter downtown and
look down to the right side of Tides Inn, you won't see a parking lot, you will see the park; that
was their attempt to try to maximize the view corridors within the Walker Street right-of-way
itself.
Regarding canyoning, HPC had requirements regarding setbacks. He said they
incorporated a design scheme using both horizontal and vertical setbacks to try to reduce the
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scale so it doesn't look like one massive building on the street side of the project -- the gables
take shape, the roofs drop down between the gables, and the roof lines in front, are all attempts
to try to reduce the scale of the project as it appears, so you don't get the canyoning effect. He
pointed it out and said that in maintaining the view corridor they reduced the building to two
stories in the last bay, that two units sit back in behind the other buildings and squeeze together,
rather interlocked, making the buildings a lot narrower and allowing them to keep the view
corridor. Doing so, they also reduced the height on the inside of two units to two stories so the
roof line can come down as full scale around the opening, can decrease and then draw the eye in,
actually utilizing it as a view corridor instead as more of a truncated opening. He also pointed
out public access
He showed that in addressing massing they attempted to reduce the scale as much as
possible ftom the streetscape. He pointed out the preferred alternative and their project behind
it. He showed they had shifted a little, changing the original massing ftom the middle towards
the center of the new building, and he showed the Officer & Gentleman suite as a single story,
where it would have been two stories in the preferred alternative, which reduced a little of the
view blockage.
Mr. Chaney said all of the design ideas evolved working their way through HPC over the
course of a few months to make sure they were trying to satisfy HPC requirements. He said HPC
looked at the preferred alternative versus what they proposed and determined it was consistent
with the preferred alternative; HPC liked and approved the project, that it is going to be an asset
to Port Townsend.
Subsequent to HPC approval, DOE established the high water mark, which apparently
previously had been drawn at the base of the rip rap wall and never accurately defined. As a
result, one building, which ended up being 2 or 3 feet inside the high water mark, was moved
forward and the park changed. He said Fish & Wildlife and DOE people mentioned they would
like to see some soft beach instead of hard armoring of the beach, and he was delighted to be
able to replace the concrete walk and create a meandering path along the shoreline. He said they
are creating a little cove area and providing somewhat of a sand beach, a bit of an experiment to
see if they get it to stay, as concurred with by the ecologists. They have cleared out a lot of
concrete debris and left a little bit of rip rap, not as a wall but to hold the driftwood in place,
leaving the few stones, backfilling behind it and planting with native grasses and supplementing
with available driftwood.
Mr. Chaney feels it offers a really good opportunity to soften the shoreline. He pointed
to the sketch showing the contrast in the way the wall is now proposed as it enters the site,
diminishing in size, a lot of natural grasses growing within the sand bank, the beach meandering
a bit instead having an armored wall, becoming a place with some shoreline habitat and native
vegetation. He showed the park undisturbed by parking.
Mr. Chaney said they have attempted to produce a project that shows Port Townsend as a
great place to be, that this project is an asset to the town.
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Ms. Ande Grahn, Madrona Planning Services
Swore and affirmed that the. testimony she was about to give was true to the best of her
knowledge.
Ms. Grahn made the correction that they have received an Hydraulic Project Approval
ftom the Department ofFish & Wildlife dated August 27, 1998, and presented a copy for the
record. She said the bulk of the Hydraulic Project Approval clarifies the results of the meeting
they had with both Fish & Wildlife and DOE, working with them to establish the high water
mark, to create the soft bank, and do some more experimentally but gentler armoring of the site
they think will make a much nicer transition into the park area. She said they, and some of the
conditions in the hydrology permit, will modify that site in terms of their conceptual landscape
plan, which she said Mr. Randall did not require them to redo even though they had redone the
site plan. More native plants will be included, and some of the planting already shown in the
original landscaping plan will be modified to include especially native grasses that DOE
specifically asked for.
Ms. Grahn said Mr. Pak bought the project and developed a design team to work through
institutional memory and SEP A issues. Her job was to work with everyone to make sure they
had permit compliance, especially in terms of the City of Port Townsend adopted Plans: the
Shoreline Master Plan, working with Mr. Freeland on the 1989 SMP Plan, the matrix of SEP A
Conditions from the original approval, the Waterfront Plan Comprehensive Public Access Plan,
as well as the Gateway Plan.
She said all three of the Plans have identified and recognized that the Walker Street
corridor was to be an important public access area in terms of eventual resolve with the Kearney
Street intersection, the transition into the bluff narrows districts ftom the commercial district.
She noted that Mr. Pak recognized he wanted that public component, and his plans include a
tower in the public area to show local art to create that transition.
Ms. Grahn said the primary goal in the Shoreline Plan in establishing conditional uses,
especially in an urban area, is public access; the public access requirements in the Shoreline Plan
were met by the proposal. She explained that hotels and motels are allowed in the Commercial
District and the Gateway Plan for the Commercial area as a preferred use. The Gateway Plan
identified the area as being in the Commercial District, the Comprehensive Public Access Plan
and Waterfront Plan identified it being in the bluff narrows. They agreed to call it both or either,
that it meets all the criteria for both Plans.
Commercial uses are allowed: the Shoreline Plan asks:
~ When you consider conditional uses, are proposed uses consistent with the uses that are
already established in the area you are considering? (The area includes expansion of an
existing hotel, condominiums, a restaurant, and in the area you can have a liquor store, and
strip mall kind of commercial development.) They feel they meet the criteria, that the use
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proposed is consistent with the uses that have already been established.
~ Statewide interests are recognized over local interests (the State has identified that statewide
interest is in continued public access). The use proposed is a use that is available to the
public; it is open to the public; it enhances and continues watemont enjoyment in Port
Townsend and includes continuation of a walkway that has been identified in several Port
Townsend Plans as being very important. In addition, private development is paying for a
public park and agreeing to maintain it in perpetuity. Ms. Grahn pointed out an important
connection identified in the Plan that pulled the walkway down and provided parking to
allow people a place to access the public walkway, meeting the state requirement that the
public's access to the shoreline be preserved over a local interest to provide additional
commercial development.
She went on to say the natural character of the shoreline needs to be preserved.
They do not propose to alter the character of the shoreline; they will enhance its character,
the long term benefit over the short term benefit is enhanced. They have worked with Fish &
Wildlife who have identified no impacts to water quality, shoreline quality, fish and wildlife
habitat. The Port Townsend Marine Science Center is doing eel grass studies in the whole
area, and they will continue to cooperate with that and provide them access. They believe
the resource and ecology of the shoreline will continue to be protected.
A criteria the State has asked in terms of conditional uses with shoreline permits
is that you enhance and increase recreational opportunity. The park has been designed to do
that, specifically designed to be a place where it will be comfortable for children to play __
softening the bay, increasing views of the water, pulling concrete and rip and rap back and
bringing the beach back to make it more visible ftom the path, easier to see and more
accessible. Additionally, soft paths will make it easier loading kayaks; it is all gentle grade,
all paths are handicap accessible. They feel it will be easy for people to come in. Although
they have not submitted a signage plan, it was mentioned they intend to sign all of that as
public, and mark those five parking spots public, maybe in the paint on the ground as well.
A requirement of the Shoreline permit for conditional uses is that there are no
unreasonable adverse effects to the shoreline environment in which it is located, which Ms.
Grahn said they feel is a very reasonable proposal in an urban shoreline. She said this is an
"identified conditional use"; hotels and motels are discussed, things that bring people to the
shoreline. She said this is a shoreline enjoyment use, as opposed to a shoreline dependent
use, and triggers the conditional use permit, and that they meet the shoreline enjoyment
criteria. The city has, through the SEP A review, determined there are no adverse
environmental impacts, and Fish & Wildlife determined there are no impacts to fish and
wildlife populations.
~ The public interest suffers no detrimental effect. She concluded public interest does not
suffer but is enhanced by the proposal, in part because of the response the owner has had to
the design concerns that were raised by the city, his interest in being part of the community
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and establishing the character sooner as you come into town, and by the development of both
the public access walkway that is identified in the previous Port Townsend Plan, and the
public parkway.
Number of Exhibits presented:
15 -- Preferred Alternative Model
16 -- Proposed Addition Model
17 -- Elevation, Alternative Proposal
18 -- Footprint Comparison
19 -- Shoreline Elevation
20 -- Hydraulic Project Approval (Dept. ofFish and Wildlife)
Chair Thayer referred to an unnumbered exhibit, which was determined to be Page 2 of
the Shoreline Site Plan·· Exhibit 1, Page 2.
Questions of applicant:
Mr. .Johnson What is the net height of the highest gable, highest point?
Mr. Chaney About 37 feet.
Mr. .Johnson Is that inclusive of the chimney?
Mr. Chaney Chimneys are 2 feet higher than the highest point.
Mr. Boles Page 16, paragraph 11 ofproposal-- Bike rack. I did not see it referred to in the
plan or in the landscaping plan. Will it take away any parking, parking access or
any of the parkway?
Mr. Chaney That was inadvertently omitted. We will be able to provide that without affecting
any parking issues at all.
Do you have a concept of where that is going to go?
Probably right off the sidewalk area, behind the parking.
We have only done a conceptual landscape plan for that area, but it will probably
be accommodated in the park area, not in the parking area. Finallandscaping
plans are required to be reviewed by the city Planning Director to make sure they
comply with all the requirements of the permit.
When conditions are added subsequent to submittal, we agree to them. . .
Is it correct that stepping is all in the ftont? The shore side is not stepped?
The shore side is not stepped back away ftom the bulk of the building; it steps
away on a horizontal basis, so it has modulation in that direction.
So the elevation we have on Page 2, Exhibit 1, is only the shore side, and we
didn't have any of the street side elevation, is that correct?
Mr. Randall Exhibit 19 has been added and will show the elevation of the waterside. The
elevations referenced in the document approved by HPC showed all four sides.
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Drainage design in the proposed bioswale: runoff ftom the buildings themselves
would be a direct discharge. What provision is there from the runoff that might
come ftom the parking to access the bioswale?
It is done through a series of catch basins that are designed to catch the water and
convey it to that point to be released at the bioswale.
Where would that point be, at the northwest access?
That is correct, adjacent to the entry of the off-site parking area.
What is the catchment area for the bioswale?
All new paved areas (does not include the easternmost existing parking area).
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Chair Thayer opened the meeting to the public, requesting those planning to testify
attempt to limit their time to 5 minutes due to the length of time already consumed.
PUBLIC TESTIFYING:
Mr. James Tretter, 1839 Washington Street
Swore and affirmed that the testimony he was about to give was true to the best of his
knowledge.
Mr. Tretter congratulated Mr. Pak for bringing the development project to Port
Townsend and being a citizen of this lovely place. He said he thinks we are all concerned about
esthetics. He reminded of the history involved and said they were glad to appeal the original
project presented by Mr. Pickett because it was the ugliest thing he had ever seen -- a flat
building, looking down on infinite air conditioners, and no view of the bay. He said, however, if
you go back to the public records, he felt City Council was very happy to see Alternative A that
was brought forward by the Madrona people. It was lovely, a complete conceptual sketch,
having no dimensions. He said the records teach nothing about the dimensions of this building,
except they were trying at that time to get to the situation, and Madrona was agreeing that we
were trying to minimize the bulk of the building and maximize the view corridors.
He declared that has been translated into a lot of things that were not founded; there is
very little precedence ftom Alternative A to what is seen here. He said his major consideration
of the current project is that the view corridors to the bay in front of the buildings are minimal.
He continued that the public park at the end of the driveway, which is a nice addition, was
mandated at the beginning of this project in the early '90's, and has always been there, although
it was never defined.
Mr. Tretter, said as he knows it, the view corridor is 29 feet. He suggested that as you
drive down Water Street and pass the park, for the next 440 feet or so of Tides Inn you will see
29 feet of the bay. Of that 29 feet there is a parking area in its entirety. He said he thinks that is
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minimal; if there is any consideration ftom the former Council meetings, that just is not
consistent.
Mr. Tretter explained that they have backed away ftom their earliest concerns for the
lighting situation. He said, however, if you look at the plans, there is a large number of 100 watt
halogen lamps; they backed away because they understand the Planning Commission has taken
on their shoulders to warrant that the glare of those lights will not be offensive. He said they
hope that would be done.
Mr. Tim Caldwell, representing the Chamber of Commerce
Swore and affirmed that the testimony he was about to give was true to the best of his
knowledge.
The Chamber of Commerce Board of Directors asked Mr. Caldwell to convey the
Chamber's support for the Tides Inn expansion project. He said the Chamber staff has followed
the project ftom its early meetings with the HPC, and they feel that all conditional use criteria
has been met, and they congratulated Mr. Pak, the design team and the staff of BCD for their
steady progress to this point.
Mr. Caldwell said the Chamber sees the project as a significant investment to our
community, providing greater opportunity for increased commerce and subsequent tax revenues.
He said they applaud the waterftont access plan, that it provides one more link to the waterwalk,
which the community desires and seeks.
He said the several references to launching kayaks were very interesting, that with the
Sea of Kayak Symposium taking place this weekend, they ran out of room in the community on
Wednesday. He said that possibly now there would be more spots for those kayaks. It would be
nice to have this project available for the next Sea Kayak Symposium.
Further questions of the applicant:
Mr. Boles Is it your understanding of what you are presenting that it is no longer a
conceptual plan? We are not talking about a concept that approximates the
preferred alternative? This is your commitment of the design?
That is correct.
What is the highest point of the chimneys?
I do not have the exact dimensions.
Can you state a reason why, ifthis is a final proposal before us?
Let me explain, the way the drawings come together is that they are not
construction drawings, but are the final design. The drawings have been taken
beyond conceptual development to the design level in which we make sure
everything works and all dimensions work, working with HPC, etc. At that point
permits are sought. The City requests the height at the middle of the gable, and
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that height is provided on the plans; I do not know the exact number. The plans
show what it is to the mid point of the highest gable; that is what the city requires
to be provided, which is 32 feet 7 inches -- the mid point of about a 10 foot high
gable, so it would be about 5 feet higher for the gable and another 2 feet to the
top of that. That would put us at the 37 - 39 foot range, 37 to the top of the gable,
39 foot range with the chimneys.
That range is plus or minus what?
They are not going to move ftom where they are. They are going to be 2 feet
above the highest point of the building, within 10 feet of that. That is what the
code requires, so they are not going any higher than that. It costs us money, and it
impacts other people. There is no reason to do it. That's where they have to be;
that is where they are going to be.
And that is 39 feet?
It is around 39 feet. The building is dimensioned to the mid point of the gable for
purposes of planning review; the drawings don't have the dimension on them.
The dimension only is the dimension ftom the top of the peak to the chimney;
that difference is 2 feet. That is the way that dimension works.
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APPLICANT RESPONSE
Mr. Rick Sepler
Mr. Sepler responded and said they acknowledge the Tretters concern for the project and
said they share their desire to make something that addresses some of the early issues that have
been brought up.
He said the purpose of SEP A is to mitigate adverse impacts, not to design a project, and
that clearly they have adopted regulations and processes to do so. He said they have to rely on
the Comprehensive Plan, the Urban Waterftont Plan, Comprehensive Public Access Plan, the
Gateway Plan to use the design guidelines contained within them. He said the body charged for
review is HPC in this case, and HPC found them in compliance. He said they feel they met the
direction of Council.
At 8:45 p.m. Chair Thayer closed the public hearing and turned the meeting to the
Planning Commission for the committee report and deliberation.
3. Committee Report (John BoleslLois Sherwood)
Mr. Boles underlined that this obviously has been very carefully reviewed; it has
gone through a lengthy process. He said he thinks Mr. Pak is to be commended for his patience
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and Mr. Randall for thoroughness with which he put this together. He said there is certainly a
great deal of information for them to go by, and to a great extent it does appear that it has been
set by the history of the proposal and some of the determinations that preceded them; otherwise,
they would probably be spending a great deal more time than they are going to.
He stressed issues he said he had already belabored to some extent in the hearing:
~ Hei~t -- He reasoned that even for a conceptual project, because of concerns for height and
bulk and legitimate concerns for the Planning Commission to consider those, it was never
clear what those dimensions were; it was never clear what was being discussed; they had
only a preferred alternative. He said if there was anything lacking in their record it was
understanding how that was defined and how they got to where they are; his concern was in
looking only at the limited elevation ftom the shoreline side that they had, and some
mythical relation of the average gable height to 35 feet. It wasn't possible to know what
might be the final project and how that related to mitigations that preceded the present
proposal. He said there is no question in his mind the project has changed significantly from
the original, but he wanted to be sure he understood what the proposal was before them.
~ Public component .- He said he has a bias against the shoreline interpretation, but it does not
mean that he is opposed to the project. He said he hoped whatever the final traffic pattern
decided upon by Public Works and the signing that occurs there, that there is every effort to
preserve both the handicapped parking space, the actual parking spaces and the public
parking access to that park, and that it not just become an ancillary amenity to the project.
Mr. Boles said he had difficulty finding shorelines issues, or impacts that were
not otherwise mitigated. He said, though he shares the concerns of the residents as they have
been expressed, he thinks Mr. Pak has been responsible and responsive in the design, and with
just the few amendments they have already discussed they could present this at the final hearing.
Ms. Sherwood commented she is very happy with the decision to keep the
Officer & Gentleman rooms after watching that video with some exchange students from Japan
and pointing out all of the points of town that are still here. She said she can see value in doing
that. She said she was very pleased with the way they are approaching the shorelines; she has
always felt a more natural approach was far more pleasing and far more beneficial to wildlife.
She said she was also very pleased to see a change in the policy on windows, that without the
windows it would look rather prisonish, and she was pleased to have windows on the street side.
Ms. Sherwood questioned if there would be just the two accesses, one in ftont of
the newer Building A and the one at the point of the street end, and asked if they would be losing
the current access for cars?
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Mr. Randall answered that there is a central parking lot east in ftont of the
existing Tides Inn, and it has its own driveway.
Ms. Sherwood expressed her pleasure with the level of concern and commitment
shown by the development team.
4. Commission Discussion and Conclusions
Chair Thayer added her expression of pleasure for the of level of concern and
commitment. She also said she would like to make certain that any impacts with lighting are
dealt with, that having been a resident above the Port Townsend heavy haul out and boat haven
project she understands how offensive lighting that isn't reflective can be into your home. She
stressed that is really an important aspect for the community and the neighbors up above. Ms.
Thayer said overall there is a lot here, a lot has been done, and she commended the applicant for
a good job.
Mr. Boles continued the lighting discussion and said that his understanding ftom
reading through the history and the various iterations of approval, it is incorporated by reference
directly into this. Where there are concerns, e.g., lighting or landscaping, the director of BCD is
responsible for signing off on those things itemized as mitigating prior to the occupancy permit
being issued.
Mr. Freeland concurred.
Ms. Thayer indicated the important aspect is getting it done the right way, even
with knowing that when it is written.
Mr. Boles noted for the record Page 3 of the Proposal, paragraph 10, "The
remainder of Indian Point is not proposed for development at this time." -- that relates under the
Commission jurisdiction to possible cumulative effects and is subsequently referred to on Page
11, paragraph e, that the applicant has burden of proof to demonstrate in conformance with
WAC 173., etc. that consideration shall be given to the cumulative impact of additional requests
for similar actions in the area. He indicated that subsequently, Page 14, paragraph 7c, there is a
discussion of a likelihood of cumulative effects ftom this proposal that took care his major
concerns for this.
Amendments:
~ Mr. Boles: Page 4, paragraph 14, line 2 - amend to read, ". . . a meandering gravel path. . ."
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~ Mr. Boles: Top of Page 7 - amend to read, "A Hydraulic Project Approval (HPA) is
required ftom and has been issued (8/27/98) by the State Department ofFish and Wildlife
(Exhibit 20) . . . "
~ Ms. Sherwood and Mr. Randall: Page 15, add at conclusion of Condition 2: "The site plans
shall be revised to show 5-foot wide sidewalks along Water Street, and 5-foot wide
waterwalk along Port Townsend Bay."
~ Mr. Boles: Page 16, paragraph 12: Change to, "A final stormwater plan. . . . "
MOTION
Mr. Boles The Shoreline Management Substantial Development!
Conditional Use Permit LUP 9211-03 dated September 17, 1998
regarding the Tides Inn Motel submitted by Ron Pak, as
amended be approved.
Ms. Sherwood
UNANIMOUS -- 4 IN FAVOR BY ROLL CALL VOTE
SECOND
VOTE
Chair Thayer announced this Conditional Use Permit would proceed to City
Council for a closed record public hearing at a date to be announced.
Following a 5-minute recess, Chair Thayer reconvened the meeting. and
proceeded with the subsequent hearing.
B. Kimm & Lawrence Fay -- Open-Record Public Hearing
Variance Application No. LUP98-47
Planning Commissioner Craig Johnson recused himself and did not participate in
the hearing. Mr. Johnson was excused for the remainder of the meeting.
Chair Thayer commended the Fays for their patience in waiting. She then opened
the Fay variance application public hearing.
1. Staff Report (Bruce Freeland)
Mr. Freeland ftom the Building &Community Development Department made the staff
report on the application ofKimm & Lawrence Fay for a variance on their home. He reviewed
the criteria to be met by the Planning Commission in order to grant a variance. He used the
overhead projector showing the subject property at 1736 Jackson Street and Lincoln Street
running alongside. He stated that the ftont door of the house is on Jackson Street and explained
that a corner lot owner can designate whichever side of the property they want to be the front
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yard of the property, so long as the house meets the setbacks. Mr. Freeland said in this case the
property does meet the setbacks by declaring that the front of the house is on Lincoln Street,
even though the address is on Jackson Street.
Mr. Freeland said there is an existing 857 sq. ft. house, and the proposal for an addition
to the house to replace an existing garage on the property. He pointed out on the overhead the
rear property line and indicated the variance is necessary because the proposed addition comes
to the same alignment the present garage comes to on their property, and that distance, which is
4 feet, is less than the required 10 foot rear yard setback between the building and the alley.
The lot is 55 x 100 feet, a full sized lot. Mr. Freeland proposed that the question is
whether there really are unusual circumstances. He pointed out two alternatives staff provided
for consideration in looking at this:
~ Draft A -- Takes the view that this is a lot 55 x 100, that is flat, that there are no unusual
features of the lot that in any way constrain it ftom use as any other normal sized lot in the
RII zone could be used. From that point of view, it would be difficult to meet the findings
that there is an unusual circumstance that constitutes a hardship.
~ Draft B - The other point of view. The alley is an unusual circumstance; it is a deadend
alley and really only serves a few immediate properties; it is not part of the general
circulation system, and it itself creates an additional setback between properties over and
above the normal rear yard setbacks in the vicinity. Although they may be old, non-
conforming structures have already been built closer to that alleyway, as indeed the existing
garage is closer to that alleyway. If it is determined that there is an unusual circumstance in
the nature of the alley, the fact both this property and others have customarily built closer to
that alley, you might be able to find that there is an unusual circumstance causing a hardship
that this lot would be conforming to the normal zoning standards, whereas the pattern in the
neighborhood is somewhat different.
Mr. Freeland submitted the two alternatives formally for the record.
Ouestions of Staff:
Mr. Boles The statement that indicates it is a deadend alley (there are two other properties
that could use it -- it is probably too steep for development by one property, and
the other one can use Lincoln Street.) It seems to deprive those properties of
fair consideration. Alternative B, Conclusion 1 and the Fay application rests
upon the notion that is a deadend alley, and does not serve the other two
properties, which conclusion was reached in their submittal. Their application
says "Parcel. . 11 has access of Lincoln Street while Parcel. . .10 may not be
developable due to steep slopes." "The alley functions as a driveway for our lot
and the two previously mentioned properties." My concern is, that is a
conclusion that I don't think is fair to the extent that any decision is predicated
on that conclusion or the fact that alley is not really used. I cannot conclude
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Mr. Freeland
that ftom the drawing.
Alternative B, Staff conclusion on Page 2 of 3, is referring to this alley as being
a unique circumstance in that it doesn't so much provide a general circulation
component in the neighborhood as it does a separator between lots.
That it provides use for fIre trucks to get in; there is enough space.
It serves many of the functions that would normally be served by the rear yard
setback, and the fact that it is not part of general circulation is a feature that is
umque.
It deadends right there where is it now; it doesn't go through the rest of that
property. You only have two other lots that abut it. One lot already has a non-
conforming building on it abutting that alley; the other one doesn't, but it has a
lot more property that is not abutting that alley than is abutting it.
That is the case for this being an unusual circumstance.
Ms. Thayer
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Mr. Freeland
Mr. Boles Mention is made of the Public Works Development Review Engineer; there was
no mention of fIre. Do they have any trouble of restrictions in the alleyway?
We are not faced with anything like the situation we had with Rosewind, where
we had the person being required to put in sprinklers because of the distance?
About the alley right-of-way (21 feet), paragraph 6, "The alley prevents any two
buildings from being less than 20 feet apart."
Mr. Freeland There are no restrictions, and no situations exist as relates to Rosewind; it
should probably say, "21 feet."
Ms. Erickson How many square feet are there is this addition?
Mr. Freeland The addition is 857, and the existing house if 888 sq. ft.
Ms. Thayer So the bulk is less than the maximum percentage.
Mr. Boles
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Can you reconcile that issue? I am not sure where 857 feet comes ftom.
There is an existing house, and the proposal is to have an addition that would be
a garage, studio, etc. to that existing house. The house is an 888 foot square
house, and the additional detached 262 square foot garage and 120 foot
greenhouse, which would be removed and be part of what would be replaced by
the addition. The 888 feet is ftom Jefferson County Assessor records.
2.
Public Testimony
Mr. Larry Fay, Applicant
Swore and affirmed that the testimony he was about to give was true to the best of his
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Mr. Fay presented a drawing as Exhibit 3. He reported that 850 sq. ft. is the
measurement they took of the house, themselves and calculated it out; the assessor has 888 sq.
ft. for the existing house. He said they could go back and make the measurements and find out
exactly what it is.
The addition they propose is an additional 857 sq. ft. As pointed out, they want to bring
it 4 feet from the southeast property line. Mr. Fay said that is what they are representing as the
back property line, being on a corner lot and identifying Lincoln Street as the ftont of the
property. The existing garage they want to replace is located 4 feet from the back line, and
actually now 4.5 feet ftom the side property line. The proposed building would be 5 feet ftom
the side property line and would now be in compliance; the only thing out of compliance would
be the back property line.
Mr. Fay said the special circumstance, and the reason they are pursuing the variance, is a
10 foot setback from the back property line. Their initial thinking was that in a normal situation
where you have two properties adjoining themselves, and the intent with setbacks, you could
conceivably construct two buildings 20 feet apart on two different properties and be fully in
compliance with the code. They reasoned that the alley being 21 feet wide, without ever being
aijIe to construct two buildings on the two adjacent properties 20 feet apart, would be less than
you could do on any other property in the city. That was their basic logic and basic view of what
is unique about the site -- the deadend 100 foot alley isn't something commonly found around
Port Townsend, not commonly found in the neighborhood.
Mr. Fay said they did not know the function of the alley as originally dedicated. He said
it was deeded in the early 1900's, but there was no purpose stated other than a public alley. He
said the alley comes back 110 feet, and deadends. He pointed out the neighbor's lot to the
southeast and the Davidson property and said the alley has functioned all through the years
basically as a driveway for Davidson's property and for the garage on the Fay's property. He
said the house on the corner accesses directly off Jackson and into their garage. He pointed out
there is lower level belonging to other neighbors that is undeveloped and referred to as being
very steep. He said he is not sure they would ever build on it, but there is also access ftom
Lincoln beach down below. No property would become landlocked, if you were to interfere
with the function of the alley; their construction with the variance would not interfere with the
use of the alley any more than the existing garage.
Mr. Fay said when they complete construction, they would be looking at 1700 sq. ft.
living area. He said they felt Mr. Freeland did a good job of Draft B, and requested the
Commission to take a good, hard look at that and give it serious consideration. He said he does
think they have an unusual situation with the alley; that is not something you are not going to
find, at least in their neighborhood. He said he does not think it has any potential of being part
of any future pathways, because of where it ends; there is no Lawrence Street, but you could
conceivably continue some access on down clear to the beach. He said he didn't mean to imply
that people would not have any use for it, but they don't see that their construction affects the
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current use of that alley. He pointed to a building that has been remodeled within the last 10
years or so, and up to the last year was permitted by the city as overnight guest accommodations;
it is not as though it has not undergone some other kinds of reviews by the city. They do not teel
what they are asking for are particularly unusual benefits than what other people in the
community have had in respect to the use of their properties.
At 9:30 p.m. Chair Thayer closed the public hearing and turned the meeting to the
Planning Commissioners for committee report and deliberation.
3. Committee Report (Karen Erickson/Nik Worden)
Ms. Erickson said she liked Mr. Freeland's language in Draft B. She said she had no
problem with Draft B, that she thinks there are certain circumstances, such as the alley, that
allow tor this type of interpretation, and thought Mr. Freeland had done a great job on the
conclusions. She said since the alley is not going to be changed any more than it is now, it is not
going to expand the non-contormance, just continue the non-conformance, she has no problem
with it.
4. Commission Discussion and Conclusions
Ms. Sherwood said usually the special circumstances are restrictions, but in this case they
seem to be an opportunity, but it still is a special circumstance. She said she sees this as an
appropriate way to go.
Pr()posed Amendment
Mr. Boles: Page 2, paragraph 6, change to read '"'I'he alley prevents any two buìÎdings ±rom
being less than 21 teet apart."
There was discussion as to the appropnateness of the change to 21 teet.
MOTION
Ms. Erickson
Recommend approvaÎ of'Draft B of Variance
Appîication No. LUP98-47, Kimm and Lawrence Ð.
.Fay, Jr.
SECOND
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Mr. Sherwood
UNANIMOUS - 4 iN J/A VOR BY ROLL CALL VOTE
Chair Thayer mformed the Fays the vanance would go to City Council for a
closed record hearing probably the third Monday in October. Mr. Freeland indicated to the .Fays
that they would be notItÌed ofthe date.
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VI. ANNOUNCEMENTS: Next Scheduled Meetings
September 24. 1998
October 1. 1998
October 8. 1998
October 15. 1998
October 26. 1998
October 29. 1998
Comprehensive Plan Amendments, Workshop
Parks & Recreational Plan, Workshop
1998 Comprehensive Plan Amendments, Public Hearing
Finalize Comp Plan Amendment Recommendations to City
Council
6:30 p.m. -- Joint Meeting with the City Council to Discuss
Planning Commission Recommendations for Comp Plan
Amendments
Parks & Recreational Plan, Public Hearing
Mr. Boles noted we would be absent for the September 24th meeting and possibly
October 1.
VII. ADJOURN
Motion to adjourn the meeting was made by Ms. Sherwood an~ seconded by Erickson
All were in favor. The meeting adjourned 9:37 p.m.
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