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CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND .
PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
Pope Marine Park Building, 7:00 PM
Business Meeting
July 31, 1997
I. ROLL CALL
II.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
July 10, 1997
III. INTRODUCTION OF NEW PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER
Joseph Finney
IV. COMMUNICATIONS: Current mail
V.
OLD BUSINESS
A. Application by Glen Norcross and Neil Cavette to Amend the
Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map and the Zoning Map (LUP97-0oo33)
1. Staff Report, (Bruce Freeland)
2. Commission Discussion and Conclusions
VI. NEW BUSINESS
VII. ANNOUNCEMENTS: Next Scheduled Meetings
August 14, 1997
Assisted Living Concepts, Planned Unit Development Application #LUP97-00040
(Boles/Erickson)
August 28, 1997 (Pope Marine Park Building not available on this date)
VIII. ADJOURN
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Business Meeting
July 31, 1997
I.
ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Pope Marine Park Building by Chair Cindy
Thayer. Other members in attendance were Lisa Enarson, Karen Erickson, Lois Sherwood, John
Boles, and Craig Johnson. Staff members present were Bruce Freeland and City Attorney Tim
McMahan.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion to approve the minutes of July 10, 1997, as written and amended was made by
Boles and seconded by Sherwood. All were in favor.
III. lNTRODUCTION OF NEW PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER
Introduction of Joseph Finnie was delayed.
IV. COMMUNlCA nONS: Current Mail
~ A letter received today from Lillian Small, owner of Block 178.
~ Entire new chapters of Title 17 and Title 18.
~ Memorandum inviting the Commission to discussion of Pedestrian, Bicycle and Transit
concerns August 6, 1997, 7:00 - 9:00 p.m. It was noted Lisa Enarson will represent the
Commission on the Non-Motorized Transportation Advisory Committee of the City Council.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. Application by Glen Norcross and Neil Cavette to Amend the Comprehensive
Plan Land Use Map and the Zoning Map (LUP97-00033)
Chair Thayer stated for the record that Neil Cavette had been a client for an agent in her
office, although not personally her client. She asked if there were any objections to her
participation in the hearing. No objections were expressed.
Johnson, said that prior to his appointment to the Planning Commission he had
conversation with Mr. Cavette on the subject, with no depth. No objection was expressed to
Johnson's participation.
Boles asked to recuse himself in the appearance of fairness, and was excused from the
remainder of the meeting.
Copied to Couno:l1
9/9/77 S'S
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1. Staff Report, Bruce Freeland
Freeland discussed the process to amend the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map and
Zoning Map, pointing out that State law makes provision for amendment once per year. He
stated since this is the first year after adoption, the whole process will not be done now. He
outlined the future process noting opportunity for private individuals to request zoning changes.
Freeland indicated this private request before the Planning Commission is the only one
that has been received, and the only amendment to be considered this year. The application
consists of Blocks 177 and 178 of the Eisenbeis Addition lying between 13th and 15th and
between Rosecrans and McClellan and asks that the current density ofR-IV be changed to R-III.
He stated that R-Ill is a somewhat lower density and allows multiple family as well as single
family development; R-IV minimum density excludes single family residences.
He went on to explain that the issues surrounding designating properties with these
densities were discussed at the Planning Commission meeting of May 8, 1996, as shown in
excerpts ofthe minutes ofthat meeting (Attachment D). He indicated it appears there was a
shift from an earlier meeting, and that a major choice was made on May 8, 1996, regarding
designation of density for that particular neighborhood. A critical factor was R-IV, higher
density, for blocks that were vacant and R-III designation for blocks with some development.
Freeland then recounted the criteria for assessing Comprehensive Plan Amendments and
responded to those criteria.
Criteria for Assessing Comprehensive Plan Amendments:
I. Is growth faster or slower than anticipated? Freeland--It is too soon determine.
2. Has the capacity to provide services diminished or increased? Freeland--Service issues in
this neighborhood still remain, i.e. poor drainage and low water pressure.
3. Is there sufficient land zoned within the city to meet projected demand and needs?
Freeland--Yes. More was designated than needed so as not to have an inflationary impact.
4. Were the assumptions upon which the plan was based invalid? Freeland--Some
development had been vested on Block 177, between 14th and 15th; a Building Permit was
pending at the time.
5. Have there been changes in community-wide attitudes? Freeland--Planning Commission
will need to make a determination from supporting letters and documents.
6. Have there been sufficient changes to cause an amendment? Freeland-- There have been
changed circumstances. A single family home has been built on a double lot of Block 177.
Block 178 is vested with infrastructure development on adjacent property which anticipates
shared costs.
7. Are there inconsistencies between City and County Plans? Freeland--Not applicable.
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Conclusions were discussed for Blocks 177 and 178 and Freeland gave the following
recommendations:
Staff Recommendation. Block 177
Change from RIV to RIII should be granted.
Staff Recommendation. Block 178
Conforms to other designations and;
~ Should be denied; or
~ Commission alternately determine a significant change in circumstances with
installation of infrastructure in McClellan and amend the Land Use Map and Zoning
for the half block (lots 1 through 4) fronting on McClellan.
Chair Thayer opened the hearing to Planning Commission questions.
Planning Commission Questions:
Q. Enarson: Description of the Proposal on Page 1 states that 4 lots of Block 177 are owned by
Glen Norcross and 4 lots owned by the DeLeo family, but on page 3, it states, "The owner of
Block 177, Glen Norcross, has begun the development of the block as a single family
housing development." Do we have something from the DeLeo's that they support this?
A. Freeland: Yes, DeLeos co-signed the application.
Q. Enarson: The letter from applicants Cavette and Norcross, Attachment H, states, "What we
are asking is that the maximum density of 24 units per acre remain, but the minimum density
of 17 be eliminated, thus allowing this area the same flexibility as all other zones within the
city." How does this relate to this application for a rezone to RIll?
A. Freeland: The application came in as a change of reclassification from RIV to RIll; the
supportive letter seems to address other avenues of getting the relief that is desired. Freeland
said he and City Attorney McMahan met with the applicants to clarify the confusion. He
also said the time to bring up a broader policy change regarding minimum densities would be
at the time of the annual Comprehensive Plan review next year.
Q. Johnson: Said he was confused by the terminology ofthe letter.
A. Freeland: Said they met with the applicant because of the confusion. He stated that Cavette
and Norcross signed the formal application and paid their fees to request a change of
classification from RIV to RIll.
The Chair opened the hearing to the public:
Chair Thayer asked those who signed the roster requesting to speak, if they swear and
affirm the testimony they were about to give is true, which was affirmed by Neil Cavette,
Glen Norcross, and Carol Mihalow.
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Applicant Testimony
Glen Norcross
He said he was out of state when this was changed to RIV. He expressed difficulty at
discussing this matter, because his attorneys said not to talk to anybody, but he indicated there
needs to be clarification.
He commented that nobody he knows faults Freeland or his staff. He went on to say that
when the Planning Commission or Council make broad changes, some things are not considered,
and spoke of how these changes affected the entire neighborhood. He referred to emergency
action and rezoning that needed to be done very quickly for funding and to comply with the
Growth Management Act, but alleged nobody knew it happened. He said he asked neighbors
why someone had not gotten an injunction. He went on to say he knows everybody has tried to
make the issue known, but it was relatively ineffective, or someone would have known.
Norcross said he owns the first four lots and was pressed to buy the back four lots. He
said that he really believes, if the City is going to make this change, he could build high density,
but voiced, "You can't change rules in the middle of the game. A lot of people are affected by
this." He said they could build apartment buildings, but he feels it is not good for the
neighborhood; it is a good residential neighborhood. He recommended that if the City makes
zoning changes, City Council go through the normal procedures. He alleged that people of the
neighborhood were not represented; that it is a question of ethics and procedures.
Questions:
Q. Erickson: Asked if they were wanting to build high density?
Á. Norcross. Said they had discussed a variance, but were told it would be easier to request a
rezone to RIll. He indicated he was informed there was a good chance of getting RIll, but
little chance of getting it back to RI.
Applicant Testimony (continued):
Neil Cavette made two points of clarification:
~ He is not the actual owner of Block 178; the owner is Lillian Small from Victoria. Cavette
said he has been negotiating for about two years to put this together; he was going to build
on the property before it was rezoned and it all went by the wayside.
~ Infrastructure is not now in but will be in within the next two weeks. He said all of these
neighbors present represent their concerns.
Public Testimony in favor:
Carol Mihalow, 1307 Rosecrans.
Property owner on the edge of Rosecrans; she has a Rosecrans address but does not front
on Rosecrans. She owns two parcels that she and her grandmother bought in 1990. She claimed
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she did not want the density, and that nothing will be built on one parcel of her land. She said
the price of land has increased three times. She complained about inadequate services, that the
inadequate water pressure had been the same for 7 years, and that for 6 years she had been
charged double for a haul out fee. She indicated her two parcels are level with everybody's
except on Rosecrans where she has railroad ties up against the bank, and said she did not wish to
have other people's drainage. She said she doesn't have money to deal with problems of more
people, and noted her property taxes had continued to increase. She indicated she did not know
regarding the threshold of determination, but she does not want a lot of noise and sewage
problems. She remarked she owns a business here, but would probably be driven out of town.
Jeaane Willis-Long, 1303 Hancock. (Hancock and 13th.)
Swore and affirmed the testimony she was about to give was true. She said she knew
nothing about apartments until now; if apartments are to be built, she will be looking at
apartments. She said the water pressure is nothing compared to what it could be; they were told
it would be rectified when they bought the property in 1994. She said apartments would
increase the problem of the muddy road on Hancock, and they are not happy with the situation.
Mona Steffire, 1347 Hancock (Jeaane Willis-Long's neighbor)
Swore and affirmed the testimony she was about to give was true. She said the street is
no longer dead end, that she had been advised there would be single family homes and she also
spoke of the impact of water pressure. She said this is not fair to people and questioned who is
at fault, real estate people?
James Davis, 1431 Sherman
Swore and affirmed the testimony he was about to give was true. He asked what is the
targeted clientele for apartments? Low income, elderly? He noted it is a good neighborhood,
and he does not want to see that. He spoke of the water pressure, the wash out of 14th Street and
that since 1966 it has basically been a swamp. He indicated the little work done on 14th and
McPherson diverted the water down to them. He spoke of their money used for traffic and that
it was not good, and for storm drains and that little or noting has been done for critical
situations. He noted family dwellings and said he cannot see why they should change. He said
these are issues that should be addressed before any density increase.
Milton Powers, 1430 Sherman, across from Jim Davis
Swore and affirmed the testimony he was about to give was true. Spoke of the run off
from last winter's storms that they never had that problem before and declared it was because of
houses being built above them. He said the street is inadequate for children, and now they are
adding population. He said it requires infrastructure first.
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Gale Durham, 1236 Logan (corner of 13th and Logan; Rosecrans in rear)
Swore and affirmed the testimony he was about to give was true. He said he is
concerned with increased traffic; they would like it to stay single family.
Chair Thayer closed the hearing to the public.
2. Commission Discussion and Conclusions
Chair Thayer explained they understand people's concerns. She said the Planning
Commissioners are all volunteers and they worked on the new Comprehensive Plan, hours and
hours over a year's time. She indicated they gave as much information to the newspaper as they
could, and tried to get public input; some of their decisions changed because of public input.
Enarson pointed out the Comprehensive Plan process started in 1993 with the community
2020 Coffee Hours and that affordable housing was one issue discussed. During February 1996
there were televised workshops and they again heard of need for multi-family housing. She said
the Planning Commission then held eight public hearings, had seven meetings 5 - 7 hours per
night, and on four Saturdays. She reminded that citizens also have a responsibility.
Assumptipns
~ Enarson said there is information they did not know. She recommend changing Block 177
from RIV to RIlL Sherwood reiterated that they did not have all the information. She said
until she read the letter from Lillian Small, she thought it was fair, but now it seems it may
have not been dealt with fairly. Erickson asked if Ms. Small came in for a rezone a year ago.
Freeland said he thinks they felt it was RI.
Infrastructure
~ Thayer asked about the water pressure in the area. Freeland responded there is a cap for low
water pressure in that area. Erickson asked if that should have affected their deliberations
when they zoned the area. Freeland said fire flow pressure should be met. Erickson asked if
a developer can be required to meet the water pressure, and Freeland said that can be a
requirement of the developer. He said there are a number of deficiencies in those areas.
Erickson asked about the feasibility of infrastructure in the future and said one reason they
went for high density there, is the whole block was undeveloped. She said there are not a lot
of blocks in Tier I. If you have a lot of water pressure problems, it might be too costly.
Sufficient land zoned
~ Erickson referred to Page 3, RIV -- 21 acres, and asked, "As we eliminate areas, are we still
going to be left with enough?"
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Block 177
MOTION
SECOND
VOTE
Block 178
MOTION
Sherwood
Recommend that change from RIV to RIll be granted in Block
177
Erickson
Unanimous, 5 in favor
Sherwood
Recommend that change from RIV to RIll be granted in Block
178
SECOND Johnson
Discussion: Change some conclusions per criteria:
~ Capacity to provide services. Sherwood and Erickson expressed concerns. Thayer: How can
a developer rectify this? Freeland: Might have to expand a water main. Multi-family might
be able to afford it better. Erickson: Might not afford infrastructure with single family.
Sherwood: Could be better with RIll.
~ Sufficient land zoned. Thayer: Are there any multi-family permits? Freeland: There is a
pending project on San Juan Avenue -- Assisted Living.
~ Invalid assumptions. Enarson: Infrastructure not installed -- change to "scheduled to be
installed." Assumptions were slightly flawed; O.K. to change as long as other assumptions
remain in effect.
VOTE Unanimous, 5 in favor
Changes:
Page 1
Page 2
Page 5
Page 6
Delete the last sentence in paragraph 2 and change wording in the previous sentence
to: ". . . would like to complete the development of the block with single family
homes pending the sale oflots 1,2, 7, and 8 to Mr. Norcross."
Change spelling of minuets to "minutes" in both the last line and the 7th line from
the bottom.
Criteria 3: Eliminate the second "has" in Line 1 to read: "Has sufficient land been. .
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Conclusions Block 177: Change #2 last line from have been "know" to "have been
known. "
Conclusions Block 178: Strike paragraph 1 and renumber the remaining paragraphs.
Change line 1 of existing paragraph 2 to read, "There was unknown information
about water pressure and drainage in Block 178 at the time when it was reviewed. ."
Change Conclusion 3 to read, ". . .that single family infrastructure is scheduled to be
installed. . ."
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VI. NEW BUSINESS
Freeland noted that Staff got ahead of itself regarding the Assisted Living Concepts,
Planned Unit Development Application #LUP97 -00040 scheduled for deliberation August 14.
He said the applicant is requesting three units to add to their development at Haines and
Discovery, but they do not yet have a permit. Under the old zoning code, the Planning
Commission needs to determine if it is a major or minor amendment, and, if major, conduct a
public hearing. He noted Staff assumed it to be major and made public notice for August 14, but
if determined to be minor the Commission can cancel it as a public hearing. He said they can
take public comment if they wish.
Erickson indicated she may not be present for the August 14 meeting.
VII. ANNOUNCEMENTS: Next Scheduled Meetings
i\ugust 14. 1997
Assisted Living Concepts, Planned Unit Development Application #LUP97-00040 (Boles/
Erickson)
August 28. 1997 (Pope Marine Park Building not available on this date.)
VIII. ADJOURN
Motion to adjourn the meeting was made by Enarson and seconded by Erickson. All were in
favor. The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
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