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AGENDA
(Revised)
Special Meeting
August 16, 1990
I. ROLLCALL-------------------------------------------7:30P.M.
II. READING AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETING
III. COMMUNICATIONS:
A. current mail
IV. OLD BUSINESS:
A. Draft Sign Code Workshop
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Monument Signs
a. Staff Review
b. Commission Discussion
c. Commission Recommendations
2. Non-Conforming Signs
a. Staff Review
b. Commission Discussion
c. Commission Recommendations
3. Schedule future Sign Code Meetings
B.
Public Hearing: Draft Ordinance,
1. Staff Review
2. Public Testimony
3. Commission Discussion
4. Commission Recommendation
Amending Ordinance 1990
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V. NEW BUSINESS:
A. Rezone Appl., 9007-02, Quimper Credit Union
Scheduled: August 30, 1990
Committee: (Grimm/Sherwood)
B. Variance Appl., 9008-02, city of Port Townsend
Scheduled: September 13, 1990
Committee: (Erickson/McDole)
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Variance Appl., 9007-01, Keith and Flora Lee Malone
Scheduled: August 30, 1990
Committee: (Carman/Grimm)
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D. Preliminary SUb-Division, Vantage Homes, Inc.
Scheduled: September 13, 1990
Committee: commission Discussion
E. Variance Appl., 9008-01, Garth and Patty Hatfield
Scheduled: September 27, 1990
Committee: (Tavernakis/Carman)
VI. ANNOUNCEMENTS:
A. Next Scheduled Meetings:
1. August 30, 1990
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Conditional Use Permit, 8912-07, Douglass and/
Nancy Lamy (McDole/Carman)
b. Rezone Appl., 9007-02, Quimper Credit Union
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c. Variance Appl., 9007-01 , Keith and Flora Lee./
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September 13, 1990
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Variance Appl., 9008-02, City of Port Townsend ~
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3. September 27, 1990
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Short Plat Appl., 9002-05, Jeff Porter I,/"
(Tavernakis/Erickson)
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Appl., 9008-01, Garth
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Special Meeting of AUgust 16, 1990
I. Roll Call
Mr. Kosec called the meeting to order at 7:45 p.m. other members
of the Commission present were Karen Erickson, Sally McDole and
Jim Tavernakis. Planning and Building Director Michael Hildt was
also present.
II. Reading and approval of minutes from meeting of July 12,
1990
Ms. McDole moved to approve the minutes of July 12, 1990 as
drafted. Ms. Erickson seconded and all were in favor.
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III. Communications
The commission received a letter from Jeff and Karen Porter
requesting to reschedule their short plat hearing to september
27, 1990.
IV. Old Business
A. Draft Sign Code-Monument Signs
a. Staff Review
Mr. Hildt reviewed the Commission's decision on the procedure to
review the draft sign code. The Commission decided to address
three main policy issues during workshops: sandwich boards,
monument signs in gateway corridor and non-conforming signs. The
commission has already made a decision on sandwich board signs.
After recommendations are made on these key issues a revised
draft will be available for public review and public hearings
will be held on the draft before the commission makes a final
recommendation to the City Council.
Mr. Hildt reviewed the draft sign code recommendation for
monument signs. The commission referenced the Gateway project
Plan and discussed where the monument sign restrictions would
apply.
4IÞ Ms. McDole moved to accept monument signs as drafted with minor
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corrections. Mr. Tavernakis seconded.
Discussion.
Ms. Erickson stated that she was uncomfortable restricting the
monument signs to five feet in height for multiple tenant
buildings. Some discussion followed.
Mr. Tavernakis voiced some of his concerns as they relate to
monument signs: considerations made for being on the high or low
side of the road¡ corner setbacks, business size relationship to
sign size, voluntary design review committee, setback from
fragmented unvacated city streets. Some discussion followed over
the site triangle outlined in the draft code.
Ms. Patti Sullivan stated that there may be a change in the
location of Sheridan Street. Mr. Hildt stated that the setbacks
are measured from the property line. Some discussion followed.
Mr. Tavernakis stated that the front footage used to determine
sign size might be more accurately determined by using front
footage in the same zoning district.
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Mr. Hildt stated that the intention of the meeting is to get
consensus on the big issues. The details to be worked out later.
Mr. Tavernakis raised the question of ownership of parking areas
as they relate to signs.
A vote was taken. The motion passed unanimously.
Ms. Erickson stated that changes will be necessary in the parking
lot sign requirements as they relate to towing information.
2. Non-conforming signs
a. staff Review
Mr. Hildt summarized alternative ways to deal with non-conforming
signs: 1.) Let existing signs be grandfathered¡ 2. Setting a
specific date at which all signs must be conforming; 3. Using
amortization schedule to determine the date at which a sign must
come into conformance; and 4. A set date for conformance with the
option of using the amortization schedule.
Mr. Tavernakis moved to accept the draft Ms. McDole seconded.
After discussion Ms. McDole withdrew her second and Mr.
Tavernakis withdrew the motion.
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alternative. Ms. Erickson seconded.
Discussion.
Ms. Erickson stated that she would like to add alternative 3
(formula approach of amortization) as an option so that those
that cannot conform have an option. She suggested that the
Commission accept option number 4.
Mr. Tavernakis stated that an appeal process on the formula
amortization process may be necessary, but elimination of non-
conforming signs in a set time is desirable.
Ms. McDole moved to amend the motion to recommend a 6 year
amortization with the option of using the amortization schedule.
Ms. Erickson seconded.
Mr. Tavernakis addressed some concerns as the relate to non-
conforming signs.
Mr. Tavernakis suggested that the 6 year amortization deadline be
extended to 1996. The Commission agreed.
A vote was taken. The motion carried 3-1 in favor with Mr.
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3. Schedule future sign code meetings.
Mr. Hildt suggested one or two more workshop prior to the next
public hearing.
The Commission set a sign code workshop for september 20, 1990.
The Sign Code Hearing will be on October 4, 1990.
B. Public Hearing: Draft Ordinance, Amending Ordinance 1990
1. Mr. Hildt reviewed the need to change the appeal period on
council actions. The city wishes to change the appeal period
from 90 days to 30 days. This change may have a direct affect on
the sewage treatment plant.
The City Attorney's draft recommends changing the comment period
to 15 days.
Mr. Tavernakis asked staff if the notice in the Leader identified
the sewage treatment plant as being affected by this ordinance.
Ms. Sullivan stated that the ordinance change will affect the
waterfront plan as well. The citizens will suffer for the
change in the ordinance.
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Brad Hillis, representing council Watch, stated he understood the
need for the change in the appeal period. He suggested that the
Planning commission consider allowing more time for appeal on
applications such as Planned unit Developments.
Public Testimony Closed.
2. commission Discussion
Mr. Tavernakis stated it was difficult considering a residential
variance with the sewage treatment plant as requiring the same
appeal period. Mr. Tavernakis stated that it sometimes takes
time to rally support before filing an appeal.
Ms. McDole stated that the citizens would suffer if the ordinance
were not changed. If the state grant is not received the tax
payers will pay for the cost of the sewage treatment plant.
Some discussion followed over past appeals and when the appeals
were filed. Ms. Erickson stated that a local attorney stated 30
days was ample time to file.
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Mr. Kosec stated he was comfortable with 30 days.
Mr. Tavernakis stated that he was not comfortable with the
shorter filing period. He stated he was concerned that the
notice published in the Leader did not specifically state that
this change may have an affect on the sewage treatment plant.
Mr. Hildt stated that a broader notice could be made for the city
council meeting.
Ms. McDole stated that the citizens of Port Townsend are very
responsible and likely realize the change in the appeal period
may have an affect on the sewage treatment plant.
MS. Sullivan stated that many more people would be present at the
meeting if the notice had specifically mentioned the sewage
treatment plant.
Mr. Tavernakis asked if it was possible to continue the hearing
and renotify for the Planning Commission. Mr. Hildt reviewed the
date possibilities.
Mr. Tavernakis stated that he would like to explore the
possibility of making the ordinance expire after 90 days.
Mr. Tavernakis moved to approve the ordinance as drafted by Keith
Harper with a 30-day appeal period. If passed by city council
the ordinance will expire after 90-days. Ms. McDole seconded.
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Discussion.
Mr. Kosec asked staff if the sunset clause is legal. Mr. Hildt
stated that the City Council and City Attorney will consider the
option.
Mr. Tavernakis suggested that the notice be changed for the city
Council Hearing. Mr. Hildt responded that the city will list the
actions that will be affected by the ordinance. Mr. Tavernakis
amended his motion to include the notice in the paper to include
mention of the sunset clause and the actions effected by the
ordinance. Ms. McDole seconded the above amendment to the
motion.
All were in favor.
V. New Business
A. Rezone Application, 9007-02, Quimper Credit Union was
scheduled for August 30, 1990 with Grimm/Sherwood on
commi ttee . *
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Variance Appl., 9008-02, city of Port Townsend was scheduled
for September 13, 1990 with Erickson/McDole on committee.
Variance Appl., 9007-01, Keith and Flora Lee Malone was
scheduled for August 30, 1990 with Carman/Grimm on committee
Preliminary SUb-Division, Vantage Homes, Inc. was scheduled
for September 13, 1990 for Commission discussion.*
Variance Appl., 9008-01, Garth and Patty Hatfield was
scheduled for September 27, 1990 with Tavernakis/Carman on
committee.
*Due to lack of time for sufficient notice Quimper Credit
union Rezone was moved to September 13, 1990 and Vantage Homes
Preliminary Sub-Division was moved to August 30, 1990.
VI. Announcements
August 30~ 1990
a. Conditional Use Permit Appl., 8912-07, Douglass and Nancy
Lamy (McDole/Carman)
b. Preliminary Sub-Division, Vantage Homes, Inc. (Commission
Discussion)
c. variance Appl., 9007-01, Keith and Flora Lee Malone
(carman/Grimm)
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september 13, 1990
a. Street Vacation Appl., 8911-04, Arne willenhag (continued
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from meeting of April 12, 1990) (Sherwood/Tavernakis)
b. Rezone Appl., 9007-02, Quimper Credit Union (Grimm/Sherwood)
c. Variance Appl., 9008-02, city of Port Townsend
(Erickson/McDole)
September 20. 1990
Sign Code workshop
September 27, 1990
a. Short Plat Appl., 9002-05, Jeff Porter (Tavernakis/Erickson)
b. Variance Appl., 9008-01, Garth and Patty Hatfield
(Tavernakis/Carman)
October 4, 1990
sign Code Hearing
VII. The meeting was adjourned at 10:35 p.m.
Darlene Bloomfield
Planning Commission secretary
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. City of Port Townsend
City Council
Port Townsend, Washington 98368 385-3000
To:
Planning Commission
From:
Darlene Bloomfield, Secretary
Date:
City Council Update
August 14, 1990
Re:
At the City Council meeting on July 17, 1990, the Council took
the following actions regarding land use cases:
Variance Appl. 9004-02, Bertram Levy - After some discussion
the Council continued the hearing until such time as a
change can be made in the variance criteria.
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Conditional Use Permit Appl. 9005-04, Laraine Dover - This
application was withdrawn prior to Council review.
Conditional Use Permit Appl. 9006-01, Bill and Dy&nna
Wolcott - Granted
Conditional Use Permit Appl. 9005-05, Pacific Oil - Granted
street Vacation Appl. 9005-03, Michael Hamilton - Granted
street Vacation Appl. 9005-02, Aaron/Hillary Carver and
James/Glenda Tavernakis - continued at applicant's request
to September 18, 1990.
At the City Council meeting on August 7, 1990, the Council took
the following actions regarding land use cases:
Variance Appl. 9005-01, Jean Anderson - Granted with
amendments. Any fence higher than three feet shall be set
back 50 feet from Clay street.
Variance Appl. 9005-07, Mary and Gary Kaiser - Granted with
amendments. Nine off-street parking spaces shall be
supplied or provided for.
The City Council will meet again on August 21, 1990. No land use
cases are scheduled to be heard.
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