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Planning Commission
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206/385.3000
Meeting of November 8, 1990
I. Roll Call
Ron Kosec called the meeting to order at 7;40 p.m. Other members
present were Alan Carman, Lois Sherwood, Karen Erickson, Jim
Tavernakis, Jim Roberts and Sally McDole. Also present were Ron
McConnell, consultant and Michael Hildt Planning and Building
Director.
II. Approval of Minutes
Mr. Carman asked that the minutes of October 25, 1990 be amended to
record the proper spelling of Kilham and Findlay who gave public
testimony during the Port Townsend Business Park public hearing.
Mr. Carman also requested that a punctuation error be corrected to
read tire-notification". Mr. Tavernakis also requested that the
minutes be amended. He stated that his comment concerning the need
for a common area for employees and recycling was omitted from the
minutes. Mr. Carman moved to approve the minutes of October 25,
1990 as corrected. Mr. Tavernakis seconded and all were in favor.
III. communications-None
IV. Old Business
A. Subdivision Appl. 9009-03, vantage Homes Inc.
1. Staff Review (McCOnnell)
Mr. McConnell reviewed the draft findings of fact and conclusions.
The applicant is proposing to subdivide 33.5 acres into 76 lots.
At this time none of the proposed streets would be in the dedicated
right-of-way. Mr. McConnell reviewed some of the concerns over the
project as proposed. He stated that the City has not yet issued a
declaration on the SEPA checklist. The applicant has submitted the
proposed restrictive covenants. A neighboring property owner, Mr.
O'Hara, has also submitted a letter in response to the applicant's
SEPA checklist. The draft findings and conclusions require the
applicant to provide two access points from the subdivision to the
rest of the city, and that the proposed subdivision be redesigned
and resubmitted to meet city requirements.
Ms. Erickson asked for some clarification as to the distance to the
proposed plat from developed Ivy Street. Mr. McConnell responded
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that it was not far.
2. Public Testimony
Lee wilburn, president of Vantage Homes, distributed a letter from
John Dewitt of 614 P street. He also submitted a list of existing
projects indicating the number of units and the number of
entrances. Mr. wi lburn stated that he has been in contact with the
Public Works Director to address water and sewer availability to
the proposed site and has drafted restrictive oovenants to preserve
the integrity and open space of the land. He stated that the
proposed 76 lots is much less than the ourrent zoning ordinance
would allow. He also stated that access is key to the sUbject
property and that no objections have been made in the past about
ingress and egress to the project. The SEPA conditions require a
traffic study and also the development of the street. He feels
that if streets are put in then a traffic study would not be
necessary. Mr. Wilburn stated that he does not have easement
access to put a road through from IVY·
Mr. Carman asked if the applicant currently has a 20-foot access
easement to the north. Mr. Wilburn stated that it is an emergency
access only.
Joe Germone asked for clarification on the availability of sewer
and water.
4IÞ Cathy O'Shea a neighboring property owner stated her concern about
not receiving a post card notice. She stated that Glenn Wood
recently removed 15 acres of wildlife habitat from the area and
this proposal would remove another 35 acres of wildlife area. She
also asked how the home owners would enforcement the covenants?
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Doug Roth an adjacent property owner stated his concern about
ingress and egress over his easement. Mr. Roth asked who would be
responsible for liability, installation and maintenance of the
road. He also asked what the specifications for the required road
would be. He also stated that platted 13th street has a wetland
on it.
Charlie o'Shea of Ivy Street stated that the City had stated that
the properties surrounding his would be developed into similar
densities. He asked the Commission if it would be wise to locate
so many people so close to the City water system.
Sharon O'Hara stated that most of what she had to say was in her
letter submitted to the Planning commission. She stated that she
had hired an attorney to review this project.
Mr. wilburn responded to the public comments: Mr. Roth stated a
concern for an easement over his property. Mr. Wilburn stated that
he was concerned about the effect of access on the neighboring
property and has acquired an additional easement to mitigate the
impacts. The proposed roads will be brought to off-site city
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street standards. Mr. Wilburn stated that he will also sign on to
a no protest agreement for the future development of these streets.
He stated if a wetland does exist on 13th he will find a way to
mitigate it or find another access. In response to Mrs. O'Shea
question concerning fees for maintenance, the owners will pay for
the cost. Mr. wilburn reviewed some photographs of some of his
past projects. Concerning the water line; there is low pressure
area in the water line so a water booster system would be developed
on the City property which the applicant will contribute to.
Sharon O'Hara stated that Mr. Wilburn had called her to discuss the
project.
Mr. Wilburn referred to the hydrology report that discusses the
location of the natural swale and the plan to contain the drainage~
Michael Hildt, Planning and Building Director, stated that Mr.
O'Shea had indicated that the Planning Department had recommended
approval. Mr. Hildt stated this was not true. Mr. Hildt stated
that other plats have very distinct patterns of roads which allow
the driver to make many choices. concerning the list of other
developments with one entrance, Mr. Hildt stated that those on the
list open onto a major arterial. This plat is a long way from a
major street. Mr. Hildt stated that neighboring property owners
will bare the load of increased traffic.
Mr. Wilburn stated that he is willing to redraw the plat to shoW'
stubbed out streets as the city wishes.
Public Testimony was closed
c. Committee Report(Tavernakis/Sherwood)
Mr. Tavernakis asked if parking is allowed on an ingress/egress
easement.
Mr. McConnell stated that the 20-foot easement to the north is for
emergency access. The access to the south would be an easement of
60 feet.
Ms. Sherwood stated that after reviewing the engineers re~rt on
drainage, she feels the proper transport of drainage ~s an
important issue. Mr. wilburn stated that he plans to deal with it
in the proper way.
Michael Anderson, applicant's engineer from NTI, stated that there
is a road for public access to the south which is currently open
but the proponents chose to go to the east on 13th. Mr. Anderson
stated that the ponds on 13th Street are a portion of a different
basin to the east.
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Ms. Sherwood stated that it is a beautiful piece of land. She
liked the concept of preserving the integrity of the property by
preserving the natural drainage basins. She stated that some of
the areas are very steep. Mr. Wilburn stated that he is talking
with the Public Works Department to redesign the subdivision for
the steep slopes on the site.
Mr. Carman stated his concern over access and discrepancies with
the city code. He stated the preliminary plat was not complete.
He would definitely like to see the revised preliminary plat before
approving. He stated the revised preliminary plan should address
the areas not in compliance with 18.24 of the Port Townsend
Municipal Code, revised information on site plan, drainage plan and
water plan.
Mr. Kosec stated that conclusion number 2 should read "not vacant"
the commissioners agreed.
Ms. Sherwood moved to continue Subdivision Application 9009-03,
Vantage Homes Inc. to a date specific and returned the application
to the applicant with the request that he comply with the city
ordinances as well as address the wetland issue on 13th street. Mr.
Tavernakis seconded.
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Discussion.
Mr. Kosec stated that the next available meeting is January 31,
1990. Ms. Sherwood added the. date of January 31, 1990 to her
motion for continuance. Mr. Tavernakis seconded. All were in
favor.
Mr. Wilburn stated that he would offer all interested to come and
look at the property if they are interested.
The commission discussed the location of the drainage basin in the
area.
B. Short Plat Application 9002-05, Karen and Jeff Porter,
(continued from September 27, 1990)
1. Staff Review (Hildt)
Mr. Carman excused himself from the meeting due to the appearance
of fairness doctrine.
Mr. Hildt reviewed the documents distributed to the Planning
Commission pertaining to the subject short plat. Mr. Hildt
reviewed the project proposal. Because the proposal was for,only
two lots served by city water and sewer it was taken up as a
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summary short plat but was denied due to access problems. The
Gregory Short Plat was approved in the past with less than the
required street in the code. The proposed plat attempts to deal
with the street requirements. The proposed width is not
suffioient, the turnaround is too small and the lot size is not
large enough. Draft A recommend the plat be denied while draft B
recommends it be approved.
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Marie Dressler stated her concerns about the proposed short plat.
Her conoerns specifically concerned drainage and access. She stated
that the potential density of the area would be greatly increased
if the porter's were allowed a short plat and then others were
later allowed to do the same. She stated she would like to
preserve the open space.
Kitti Cupp a long time resident of Jefferson county stated the lot
size should be 100 by 100 minimum.
virginia Wolf, a neighboring property owner, stated her concern
over the potential for an increase in population density in the
area. She stated that Gregory had gone through the short plat
process. She stated the Porter's are requesting a short plat of a
short plat which results in a long plat.
Karen Porter stated she had a concern for the drainage and is
willing to have a professionally designed system. She also stated
that an additional 20-feet of property would be dedicated for an
emergency vehicle use.
Ms. Wolff asked the applicant if a drainage system would be
supplied for all lots.
Jeff Porter stated that a drainage system for the proposed site
would be engineered.
Some discussion followed over the need for improved drainage.
Public Testimony was Closed.
3. committee ~eport (Tavernakis/Erickson)
Jim Tavernakis stated he had problems diverting from the
requirement for lot size. Densi ty should be addressed and the
proposal does not appear to be acceptable.
Ms. Erickson agreed with Mr. Tavernakis on density and stated the
need for fire access. She stated that the increase in easement
makes the lot area too small. For this reason, she stated she was
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unable to concur with the conclusions drafted in Draft B
recommending approval.
Mr. Tavernakis stated he appreciated the applicants attempt to make
it work but the square footage was not enough to allow this
project.
Ms. Sherwood stated the need to use the ordinances because public
process created them. She stated great care must be taken in
granting variances.
Ms. Erickson moved to recommend Draft A for denial of short plat
application 9002-05. Mr. Tavernakis seconded and all were in favor
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virginia Wolf thanked the Commission for the hard work and time
they give to the community.
V. New Business - None
Mr. Carman returned to the room at this time.
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VI. Announcements
Mr. Hildt stated the Urban waterfront Plan and Environmental Impact
statement will be available soon. If the Commission is unable to
make a decision on November 29, 1990 ordinance 2192 will have to be
extended by City council. Mr. Hildt recommended that the planning
Commission schedule a workshop if necessary.
Mr. Hildt stated that pUblic testimony will be taken on the 19th at
the Joint planning commission-City council Meeting and recommended
that the Commission not take public testimony on their decision
meeting of November 29, 1990.
Mr. Roberts stated he would like to have a workshop prior to the
November 19, 1990 Planning commission meeting.
The Commission received copies of draft implementing ordinances and
draft plans.
The Commission discussed a possible date for workshop. It was
decided to hold the workshop on Tuesday November 13, 199Q.
Ms. Erickson asked if there would be an opportunity to have
dialogue with the public. The meeting of the November 19, 1990
will be for the Planning Commission and the City Council to take
public testimony.
Some discussion followed over the remaining public process on the
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Urban Waterfront Plan.
Mr. Tavernakis requested that the notification for the meetings
should state that the meeting of November 19, 1990 will be the last
public hearing on the Urban Waterfront Plan.
Mr. Hildt reviewed the pUblic notice on the project. Legal notice
were published in the newspapers and flyers were posted all around
town.
Ms. Erickson stated she would like to get pUblic input.
Mr. Kosec stated that notification for the November 19, 1990
meeting should state that no public testimony will be taken.
Npvember 19, 19~0
A. Joint Public Hearing: Draft Ordinances for Waterfront Plan
(city Council and Planning Commission)
~oyember 29. 1990
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PI~nning commission Recommendations Issued on Draft Ordinances
and Waterfront Plan.
DecemQer l~. 19~0
A. Port Townsend Business Park, Rezone
(Committee: McDole/Carman) (staff: McConnell)
B. Herbert and Jean Herrington, Conditional Use Permit
(Committee: Carman/Sherwood) (Staff: Sepler)
C. Robert A. Friedman, Conditional Use Permit
(committee: Erickson/Roberts) (staff: Sepler)
January 10. 1991
A. Doug and Nancy Lamy, Conditional Use Permit
(Committee: McDole/Carman) (staff: Hildt)
B. Summit Communications, Inc., Conditional Use Permit
(Committee: SherwoodjRoberts) (staff: To Be ASsigned)
C. Summit Communications, Inc., Variance
(Committee: Tavernakis/Roberts) (staff: To Be Assigned)
VII. The meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
Darlene Bloomfield
Planning Commission secretary
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Planning Commission
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AGENDA
Regular Meeting
November 8, 1990
I. ROLLCALL-------------------------------------------7:3OP.M.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF OCTOBER 25, 1990
III. COMMUNICATIONS:
A. current mail
IV. OLD BUSINESS:
A. Subdivision Appl. 9009-03, Vantage Homes Inc.
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Staff Review-(McConnell)
Public Testimony
Committee Review-(Tavernakis/Sherwood)
Findings and Conclusions
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B. Short Plat Appl. 9002-05, Karen and Jeff Porter,
(Continued from September 27, 1990)
1. Staff Review-(Hildt)
2. Public Testimony
3. Committee Review-(Tavernakis/Erickson)
4. Findings and Conclusions
V. NEW BUSINESS:
VI. ANNOUNCEMENTS: Next Scheduled Meetings
November 19. 1990
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A. Joint Public Hearing: Draft Ordinances for Waterfront Plan
(City Council and Planning Commission)
November 29. 1990
A. Planning Commission Recommendation Issued on Draft Ordinances
Waterfront Plan
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A.
Port Townsend Business Park, Rezone (Committee: McDole/Carman)
(Staff: McConnell)
B. Herbert and Jean Herrington, Conditional Use Permit
(Committee: Carman/Sherwood) (Staff: Sepler)
C.
Use Permit (Committee:
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Robert A. Friedman, Conditional
EriCkSO~1~.'S'- (Staff: Sepler)
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A. Doug and Nancy Lamy, Conditional Use permi t
McDole/Carman) (staff: Hildt)
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B. Summit communications, Inc., Conditional Use Permit
(Committee: sherwood/Roberts) (Staff: To Be Assigned)
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summi t communications, Inc. , variance
Tavernakis/E~igkoon) (Staff: To Be Assigned)
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