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Business Meeting 6:00 p.m. July 17, 2023
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L Call to Order/ Pledge of Allegiance
II. Roll Call
III. Changes to the Agenda
IV. Special Presentations
A. Swearing in of Officers
V. Comments from the Public (re consent agenda items and items not on the agenda)
(Each person has 3 min. to comment- City Clerk will signal at 2 min. 30 sec.)
A. Public comment
B. City Staff Response
VI. Consent Agenda
Action: Move to adopt the consent agenda or request to remove any individual
item from the consent agenda.
A. Approval of Bills, Claims and Warrants
B. Approval of Minutes: June 20, 2023
C. Approval to Authorize Agreement for City Council Chambers Upgrades
VII. Public Hearing
A. Resolution 23-041 Approving the 2024-2029 Six -Year Transportation
Improvement Program
Action: Move to approve 23-041 Approving the 2024-2029 Six -Year
Transportation Improvement Program
i. Staff Presentation
ii. Public Comment
iii. Council Deliberation and Action
VIII. Unfinished Business
A. Ordinance 3317 Related to Peace, Morals, and Safety Repealing Chapters 9.08 -
Nuisances, 9.10- Punishment and Abatement of Nuisances, 9.12- Burning
Permits, 9.16- Storage of Petroleum Products, and 9.32- Malt Liquor Sales and
Distribution of the Port Townsend Municipal Code and Adopting a New
Chapter 9.08 Nuisances
Action: Move to approve Ordinance 3317 Related to Peace, Morals, and
Safety Repealing Chapters 9.08 -Nuisances, 9.10- Punishment and Abatement of
Nuisances, 9.12- Burning Permits, 9.16- Storage of Petroleum Products, and
9.32- Malt Liquor Sales and Distribution of the Port Townsend Municipal Code
and Adopting a New Chapter 9.08 Nuisances
i. Staff Presentation
ii. Public Comment
iii. Council Deliberation and Action
B. Ordinance 3318 Related to Minor Landscaping in the Right of Way and
Amending Sections 12.04.030 and 12.04.075 of the Port Townsend Municipal
Code
Action: Move to approve Ordinance 3318 Related to Minor Landscaping
in the Right of Way and Amending Sections 12.04.030 and 12.04.0 75 of the Port
Townsend Municipal Code
i. Staff Presentation
ii. Public Comment
iii. Council Deliberation and Action
IX. New Business
A. City Council Presentation on the Envision Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons Community Discussion
Action: City Council will receive the final recommendation on the future
decision of the Envision the Port Townsend Golf Course and Mountain View
Commons and be asked to make a decision.
i. Staff Presentation
ii. Public Comment
iii. Council Deliberation and Action
B. Resolution 23-042 Authorizing the City Manager to Execute all Agreements
Necessary to Complete Discovery Road Improvement Project
Action: Move to approve Resolution 23-042 Authorizing the City Manager
to Execute all Agreements Necessary to Complete the Discovery Road
Improvement Project.
i. Staff Presentation
ii. Public Comment
iii. Council Deliberation and Action
X. Presiding Officer's Report
XI. City Manager's Report
XII. Suggestions for next or future agenda, regular meeting and/or study session
XIII. Comments from Council
XIV. Adjourn
CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND
STATE OF WASHINGTON, )
) ss. OATH OF OFFICE
County of Jefferson )
I, Kamal Sharif, do solemnly swear that I am a Citizen of the United States and the State of
Washington; that I will support the Constitution and Laws of the United States and the Constitution
and Laws of the State of Washington, and will to the best of my judgment, skill and ability, truly,
faithfully, diligently and impartially perform the duties of the office of Police Officer in and for the City
of Port Townsend, Jefferson County, Washington, as such duties are prescribed by law.
Kamal Sharif
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 17th day of July 2023.
Thomas Olson, Chief of Police
CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND
STATE OF WASHINGTON, )
) ss. OATH OF OFFICE
County of Jefferson )
I, Jeff Thaxton, do solemnly swear that I am a Citizen of the United States and the State of
Washington; that I will support the Constitution and Laws of the United States and the Constitution
and Laws of the State of Washington, and will to the best of my judgment, skill and ability, truly,
faithfully, diligently and impartially perform the duties of the office of Police Officer in and for the City
of Port Townsend, Jefferson County, Washington, as such duties are prescribed by law.
Jeff Thaxton
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 17th day of July 2023.
Thomas Olson, Chief of Police
From: IdcinorbitC�yahoo.com
To: nubliccommentC6citvofot.us; news6ptleader.com; newsC oeninsuladailvnews.com
Subject: not a real good idea to lock stuff down too much.
Date: Monday, July 10, 2023 2:56:30 PM
Hello Port Townsend. Boy sure is hard to get through to some people. Guess they
must be thinking about how to further their investment and not about the community.
So both the Port Townsend leadership and the Port of Port Townsend have officials
who just crap all over the regulations governing their fiefdoms endangering their long
term public financing while also screwing the community. One official has just gone
willy-nilly and illegally locked down the bathrooms so crucial to anyone getting an
interview, a job, and even a danged shower. No, you are NOT allowed to restrict
access to a public bathroom to the paying customers; this is settled law. This is also
socioeconomic suicide for a town dependent on tourist revenues; remember the days
of Come to Vacation; Leave on Probation. Anyone with more than two grains of
common sense knows how people just talk about bad times they have on vacation.
This town sure didn't work very good back then, but at least it was nice to people
sometimes; not now.... And word gets around about tourist destinations. The idea
that somehow an outside shower is good enough for someone hypothermic after an
unplanned rainstorm and a 30 degree drop in temperature just shows how gone in the
head some misleaders are. It's all about them and not the rest of us. And that is
socioeconomic suicide for a town like Port Townsend dependent on tourist revenue to
get by. We don't have the money to pay a pass and a fee; we can pay a shower fee,
but the additional pass fee is blatantly illegal; sad when the leaders just ignore good
common sense In favor of looting off the public to benefit themselves with public
money. They're bathrooms, not 50 story high rises for Christs sake..... And I
caught them lying about that too....
Lyle Courtsal
From:
Pamela Hall
To:
nubliccommentCcitvofot.us
Subject:
Potholes
Date:
Thursday, July 6, 2023 1:39:14 PM
Please explain the council's standing on repairing the metastasized potholes on all roads. It
definitely does not appear to be a priority for the council.
Thank you
Pamela Hall
From: M Morrissey
To: nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Showers at new pool
Date: Thursday, July 13, 2023 5:24:29 PM
Council Members,
We need sanitary facilities for our unhoused population. There are thousands in our county.
When we move forward with a new swimming pool for citizens, please consider having
bathrooms with showers for their use.
Mike Morrissey
Port Townsend
From: IdcinorbitC�yahoo.com
To: kparkCpeninsuladailynews.com; eiiminezC6seattletimes.com; nubliccommentCcity&t.us; Popular Resistance,
Lee Camp; vfpC6veteransforpeace.org; taressCsunrisemovement.org; The Council of Canadians;
correction sL6rawstory.com; M4bl Info; rootsaction; Guardian Letters; Ldcinorbit
Subject: Wow, are we missing an opportunity....
Date: Friday, July 7, 2023 3:13:42 PM
I have been following housing policy for the last 25 years approximately, from the
bottom up. I did street outreach for around 15 of those years, helping people on the
street in crisis. What I saw was a lot of bureaucrats in the nonprofits who were not
adequately overseen and so as a consequence, a lot of unhoused people were
denied resources wrongfully while being criminally abused. This is a consequence of
the staged privatization of publicly funded housing being privatized and therefore not
subject to the same level of scrutiny and oversight a public project would get; it costs
less they say (but not in the long run -and they lie up there a whole lot too fudging the
numbers and making it look like low income housing costs a lot more than it actually
does). Additionally, a lot of of people are both aging out of employment and also are
not finding work because there are not a lot of adequate to good paying jobs anymore
(the killer robots are Lakin over!!), though there are a lot of "jobs" out there that won't
get you housed because the pay is too low. I knew a lot of employed people who
were unhoused. I hope I never see another defenseless older person trying to live on
our streets again.
In addition, we have lost a lot of funding for adequate housing via republican
budget cuts. Rather than point the microscope at the homeless as the problem, we
need to start looking in another direction if we are actually serious about reversing
homelessness and housing people adequately. Most people don't think that paying to
house people actually lowers long term systems costs, but it does as well as saving
lives. Rather than just abandoning people on our streets as unsaveable, we need to
look at the fact that housing plus services saves lives and also can open up
opportunities for people who are different and still may need assistance in the
workplace and elsewhere when they become employable again; for those who are
not able to work on our streets in their present condition. We hear about prisons,
behavioral health, and other "solutions", but not what works at reducing and
eliminating homelessness; housing people. I remember when Raygun booted the
mentally ill out of the psych hospitals and into so-called community based care; alll
the republicans "forgot" to house them after they were turned out onto the streets and
crisis after crisis followed with every set of budget cuts pushed by the republicans
during that period: the murdering '80's. We can achieve significant savings reducing
health care costs and street fatalities by adequately housing, feeding, and caring for
our people as a Christian nation would do.
In Love, Lyle Courtsal wwew.3mpub.com
From: Sheila Lona
To: nu b1iccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: July 17th meeting
Date: Sunday, July 16, 2023 2:36:03 PM
CAUTION: External Email
Hello!
What is the cost to fix the ctirrent poo17 Compare to the cost for the
ptished new complex please.
Why is the cotincil so ready to spend s0000 much money that we don't have777
Sheila Long
From:
Lynne Stryker
To:
nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject:
Mountain view pool opinion
Date:
Sunday, July 16, 2023 2:26:10 PM
Hello,
I am a 7 -year resident of uptown PT and would like actual figures to compare for fixing the
existing pool mechanics and roof structure. Our little town cannot afford the Taj mahal prices
of a new pool. We have the infrastructure of the building and concrete pool and should look at
just fixing what we have.
Given that both Kala and Cape George have their own pools, we have a relatively small
number of folks who need access to a pool. I would love to know what the current number of
users is here. I'm guessing it's in the hundreds. A $50 million project for a couple hundred
people seems more than ridiculous.
If we can't afford it, we can't do it. Let's put our money towards sewer fixing, street repair and
people can learn to swim in the many shallow bays we have in this town, or drive to Sequim.I
can't believe we want to literally throw out the entire baby with the bath water. Let's fix what
we have.
Thanks,
Lynne and Bob Stryker
From:
deFW
To:
nu b1iccommentC6citvofot.us
Cc:
willowtreeC6olvoen.com
Subject:
Need for Public Showers Here!
Date:
Thursday, July 13, 2023 5:57:44 PM
CAUTION: External Email
Greetings,
The issue of the need for public shower facilities has been before us several times over the years. Given the arguably
undercounted and currently available statistics of unhoused individuals and families in Jefferson County, it's time
for action.
If we can't, or won't, provide enough housing that is truly affordable for very our low-income community members,
can we at least provide a facility wherein people can keep themselves clean? A connected, attached affordable
laundromat wouldn't go amiss, either.
Our local communities here, very much including Port Townsend, are quickly heading into a lack of sustainability.
If we want to fulfill employers' hiring needs for low wage jobs that don't begin to match the cost of housing, it's
incumbent upon us to support very low income and unhoused citizens who truly want to work, but haven't the
means to clean tip for a job interview, let alone a job.
This is also a matter of public health. We have children living in cars and RVs who are not even being served by our
local shelter system. Please, try to imagine their experiences in not being able to be clean, especially in daycare or
school!
Please think about the growing number of senior citizens becoming homeless, most of whom have a work history
along with a scant Social Security check that doesn't come close to matching housing costs. The subsidized housing
here for seniors have long waiting lists.
Most of these are indeed local folks who are being priced out of Port Townsend and the surrounding area, yet have
nowhere else to go.
How then will we treat local individuals, families and grandparents in need here? At the very least, can we provide a
shower?
Thank you for your kind attention.
deForest Walker
PO Box 1506
Port Townsend, WA 98368
360-531-0019
defwpt@gmail.com
From:
M Morrissey
To:
nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject:
Public Access Bathrooms
Date:
Sunday, July 16, 2023 2:34:26 PM
PT City Council Members,
I applaud your inclusion of public access bathrooms in our new swimming
pool. This is a public health issue that really needs to be addressed.
In your final plans, please be sure to include the following:
1. The Universal Single Use bathrooms have a toilet, sink, shower, a small
bench, and are ADA accessible, with at least one having an automatic door
(push pad);
2. There are at least 6 of these because there will be people who decide
they are a better alternative to the congregate locker rooms, such as mixed
gender families, people with caregivers, transgender individuals, as well as
the unsheltered; and
3. There is access to these Universal Single Use Rooms during hours when
the "Y" is not operating and groups of children are not present so they can
be used by anyone regardless of ID or willingness to comply with, or ability
to pass, a background check. It should be possible to design the placement
of these rooms so that there is no locker room or pool access.
Thank you,
Mike Morrissey
Port Townsend, WA
From: Douo Edelstein
To: publiccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Public access facilities in new development of aquatic center
Date: Sunday, July 16, 2023 2:02:24 PM
Hello,
It is essential that any new aquatic facility in Port Townsend include two features: public
showers and public lockers.
Showers are crucial because of the many homeless and shelterless people who live in the area.
This population has no access to hygiene facilities and suffers extensively from negative
health effects, lost job opportunities, social interactions and many other areas of human
existence.
The lockers would serve the same population. This idea is not a storage unit. The lockers
would serve merely as places to put essential belongings like backpacks, bedrolls, clothing and
other essential survival items while the person uses the facilities.
These ideas have strong support among the agencies that provide services for the homeless
population, as well as of course the people themselves. It would be inhuman for this
community to fail to provide these basic and essential facilities.
Very sincerely,
Doug Edelstein
Port Townsend
From: iesse wild
To: publiccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Public showers in our future plans?
Date: Thursday, July 13, 2023 8:19:04 PM
I would like to see that our town builds some accessible single -user public showers as part of
the facilities around the old golf course location.
• There are 2000 homeless (WA Dept of Commerce), and 200 homeless families (school
district info) in Jefferson County.
• There aren't any public showers.
• Even if the Mountain View Commons gives space to shelter homeless, the showers at
the current pool require ID and police background check.
• Since we are planning a separate pool - water based facility - now is the time to include
single use shower rooms where any person can safely and privately take a shower.
Thank you,
Jesse Wild
1340 19th St
PT, WA 98368
jesse wild
443-924-9453
From: MARIA MENDES
To: nub1iccornrnentC6citvofbt.us
Subject: Public Showers
Date: Thursday, July 13, 2023 10:00:04 PM
Dear Folks,
I firmly support the addition of Public Showers for the unsheltered. It is bad enough that
people remain unsheltered, to make personal hygiene difficult adds indignity to an already
very difficult situation. Public Showers should be available.
Regards,
Maria Mendes
concerned county resident, who spends time in the city
From:
weaveroo
To:
publiccornmentLcitvofDt. us
_
Subject:
Public showers
Date:
Friday, July 14, 2023 9:07:05 AM
Dear City Council,
We have unsheltered people deserving dignity and respect.
All of us need to feel clean and refreshed even the unhoused.
Please provide single person showers for all.
Cecilia Flickinger
Scant from my GalaxyTat)(W S2
From:
Jodi Lehman
To:
nubliccommentC6cityofot.us
Subject:
Showers for the homeless at new pool
Date:
Thursday, July 13, 2023 6:04:31 PM
As the City of Port Townsend goes through the planning and design process for a new public pool, I
ask that you include single use shower rooms that are free to the public, don't require a
background check, and provide safe spaces for people of any gender, including trans and other
non -binary people.
Access to showers improves public health and increases the ability of homeless people to find
jobs and places to live. The construction of a new pool provides an opportunity to create such
showers at a relatively low additional cost.
Jodi Lehman
From:
Bill WOLFE
To:
nubliccommentC6cityofot.us; Bill WOLFE
Subject:
Police crackdown on homeless
Date:
Monday, July 17, 2023 10:43:55 AM
Dear City Council - On July 4, 2004, 1 sent the below email to raise general concerns
regarding enforcement of city ordinances.
I would like to formally submit this additional email today as public comment for
tonight's public hearing (7/17/23).
1 also would like to submit the attached photos of the two signs I mentioned in that
7/4/23 email (see attached photos).
Finally, in the event that I am unable to attend tonight's hearing and speak, I would
like to submit the following comments on enforcement policy and the city's "camping"
ordinance (and to supplement any verbal testimony tonight):
1. The definition of "camping" is far too broad, see:
"Camp" means to remain overnight, to erect a tent or other shelter, or to use
sleeping equipment, a vehicle, or a trailer or camper, for the purpose of or in
such a way as will permit remaining overnight"
This language would prohibit reasonable public use and enjoyment of public land, e.g.
putting up a tent on a beach or in a park at any time, for any purpose, including day
use. All parks vehicles would trigger that definition and thereby violate the ordinance,
as they all could be used "for the purpose .... as will permit remaining overnight'.
The language it is not based on and is unrelated to a clearly expressed and with a
nexus to a legitimate basis for exercise of the local police power. It's enforcement
would infringe upon protected rights. Such breadth and ambiguity also violates due
process rights.
2. While I am not aware of the totality of the facts and history and the City may not
have direct control over the Port sign, the sign posted in city parks - "Camping
Prohibited - Vacate Immediately" appears to violate the policy, spirit and the letter
of the city's ordinances, see:
It is the general policy of the city of Port Townsend to emphasize code compliance
by education and prevention as a first step. This policy is designed to ensure code
compliance and timely action that is available to all persons and is uniform in its
implementation. While warnings and voluntary compliance are desirable as a first
step, enforcement and civil penalties should be used, consistent with the criteria set
forth below, for remedial purposes as needed to assure and effect code compliance.
Abatement or remediation, including restoration of a situation to pre -activity condition,
is a primary goal in all cases and pursued when appropriate and feasible. [..]
Without having attempted to secure voluntary compliance, or where voluntary
compliance occurs after a violation, the director shall consider issuing a notice
and order with civil penalties and/or a civil infraction with civil penalties under
the following circumstances:
A. When an emergency exists, or
B. When a repeat violation occurs (whether or not the same or a similar violation, and
whether or not the violation occurred on the project or site in question or occurred on
another project or site), or
C. When the director finds the violation to be flagrant or severe, or where the actions
have compromised the city's ability to make reasonable determinations concerning
the violation, or
D. When the violation creates a situation or condition that cannot be corrected; or
E. When the person knows or reasonably should have known that the action is in
violation of a city regulation. A currently or previously licensed professional, for
example, contractor or subcontractor, or person currently or previously involved in the
building trades, is presumed to have known that an action is in violation of a city
regulation; or
F. The person cannot be contacted or refuses to communicate or cooperate with the
city in promptly correcting the violation, or
G. When the violation involves a violation of the city's critical areas regulations
(Chapter 19.05 PTMC) or shoreline management plan (adopted by Ordinance 2938),
including any amendments, or
H. When the violation involves damage to a city right-of-way or property. Damage
includes damage to vegetation or city improvements (for example, sidewalks, streets,
utilities). (Ord. 2952 § 1, 2008).
Have these standards been triggered and this policy and procedure been complied
with?
3. The federal court cases listed on the sign (i.e.Martin v. City of Boise and Lavan v.
City of Los Angles) do not support enforcement of the city's ordinances and activities
ordered by the signs. This includes, among other things, the confiscation and
impoundment of personal property, the authority to order people to vacate a public
park during daylight hours, and due process requirements (e.g. posted sign notice
with no opportunity to comment, be heard, or object).
It seems that the authority to confiscate and impound property requires that the
City reasonably believe it to be abandoned, an immediate threat to public health or
safety, or was criminal activity or contraband.
Relatedly, Garcia v. City of Los Angeles is the latest development in this area. In this
case, the Ninth Circuit determined that municipalities may not summarily seize and
destroy even "bulky" items of personal property left on city property. Not addressed:
property removal with notice and storage. The court did not rule on the
constitutionality of ordinances that provide for the removal, notice and storage of
personal property. Variations of such regulations have been crafted and/or upheld by
district courts. (see e.g., Mitchell v. City of Los Angles (C.D. Cal. 2016) 2016 WL
11519288, citing with approval De-Occupy Honolulu v. City and County of
Honolulu(D. Hawaii 2013) 2013 WL 2285100).
Those cases also mandate an elaborate regime of city ordinances, policies and
procedures, funded and staffed programs, and actual assets to implement them. I
question whether the City is in full compliance with these conditions imposed by the
courts in these cases. Of course, this includes the condition that precludes
enforcement "so long as there is a greater number of homeless individuals in [a
jurisdiction] than the number of available beds din shelters]."
I ask that the city provide a written description of how the city is in compliance with all
the conditions imposed by the Courts in the two decisions the city itself relies upon.
4. The nuisance enforcement provisions of the city's code appear to lack explicitly
authority to seize and impound personal property and also mandate specific pre -and
post enforcement actions, including:
1.20.105 Complaint log.
Article II. Notices and Orders to Correct and/or Abate
Can the City specify how these provisions are implemented, particularly with respect
to the Orders given by the posted signs?
5. As a matter of public policy, I believe that any program to address homelessness
and many nuisance conditions must not be implemented or administered by the
police or designed to enforce laws or criminalize behaviors or housing status
(including people who live in vehicles).
More compassionate social services must be the primary approach. And those
programs must be fully funded and staffed base on human needs
I appreciate your consideration and written response to these concerns.
Respectfully,
Bill Wolfe
914-268-8765
attachements (2 photos)
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bill WOLFE <bill wolfe@comcast.net>
To: "citycouncil@cityofpt.us" <citycouncil@city ofpt.us>
Date: 07/04/2023 7:33 PM PDT
Subject: Police crackdown on homeless
Dear City Council:
It's been my pleasure to be a visitor for 7 summers now, and to meet the
fine people of Port Townsend. It is my sense that they are a generous and
compassionate lot.
I must advise that visitors like myself, apparently perceived very negatively
by Council and the police, add to the economy (I can show you receipts of
over $1,000 spend in June) and the culture of the town.
But 3 years ago, I began to notice signs prohibiting overnight camping on
12th Street behind the hardware store.
This year, I noticed no overnight camping and RV parking signs postings
along Washington Street Port parking. Those signs overtly threaten
violators warning that thev will be "trespassed". What could that possibly
mean?
Today, I noticed signs in the pocket park behind the Food Co -Op and
along the lagoon that gave 48 hour notice and a warned that camping was
prohibited in parks and that personal property of violators would be
confiscated.
What is Council thinking?
Now could a liberal, tolerant, and compassionate community support
ordinances that effectively declare war on the poor and homeless and
threaten to take their property?
This is just morally wrong, legally dubious (e.g. taking personal property
and people's homes is very different than enforcing a curfew or trespass
laws) and I strongly object.
Please think before you adopt ordinances designed to harass the least
among us and authorize the police to abuse citizens.
Bill Wolfe
914-268-8765
PS - Retired professional, Ivy League graduate school education, 35 years
of professional planner government and environmental activist service,
and I hope to appear to speak to you at the next regular Council meeting
From: iohnyesberger
To: publiccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Pool complex
Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 4:27:52 PM
CAUTION: External Email
I recommend scaling back the plans. A simpler less expensive design. And just 1 smaller to medium size pool ,
not 2 . Also what would be the possibility of replacing the pool at the current pools site 7 Continuing with the
current main building structure, restrooms and showers . Then doing the necessary rebuilding of the pool there . We
as taxpayers need the extra money for keeping our roads and infrastructure in good shape . So , i am against the
costly new design being considered. Thanks!
Sincerely , John R Yesberger
4054 Holcomb St
Port Townsend, Wa .
From:
MARIA MENDES
To:
nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject:
Public Showers - Another comment
Date:
Monday, July 17, 2023 11:08:17 AM
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I strongly support public showers being available for all that need them. As the pool gets replaced, I
recommend that:
the Universal Single Use rooms should have a toilet, sink, shower, a small bench and are
ADA accessible, with at least one having an automatic door (push pad)
there should be at least 6 of these because many people (mixed gender families, people
with caregivers, transgender individuals, as well as the unsheltered). may decide they are
the better alternative to the congregate locker rooms,
there be access to these Universal Single Use Rooms during hours when the Y is not
operating and that groups of children are not present. Consider designing the placement of
these rooms so that there is no locker room or pool access without going through a
monitored area.
Best regards,
Maria Mendes
From: Barbara Morey.
To: nubliccommentC6city.ofot.us
Subject: Swimming Pool Facility Improvements
Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 3:20:52 PM
The MQrnina Chronicle,(*) while reviewing affordable housing issues and related
circumstances, reported -
11 ...
eported:
"... roads were unmade, often mere alleys; houses small and without foundations
subdivided and often around unpaved courts. An almost total lack of drainage and
sewerage was made worse by the ponds formed by the excavation of [the] earth.
Lakes of putrefying [feces] added to the filth."
Sound familiar?
I appreciate that our community is seriously examining various possibilities for
addressing our own issues related to affordable housing and services for people who
are homeless. One small item in this process relates to the remodeling or revamping
of the current swimming pool facilities.
I share concerns that we include public showers that are respectfully accessible to all
members of our community regardless of their status or description: transgender/
LGBTQ, elders, youth, workforce and professional personnel, low income
households, race etc.
As I understand plans in progress to date, in the improved facility there will be full on
locker rooms with showers — as exist now — for classes and such. And there will be
additional Single Use Changing Rooms.
I have four suggestions for best practice use of these Single Use public
accommodations:
1. that the Universal Single Use rooms have a toilet, sink, shower, a small
bench and are ADA accessible, with at least one having an automatic door
(push pad).
2. that there are at least 6 of these rooms are developed because they are the
preferred alternative to the congregate locker rooms for much of our
population— including people with physical disabilities and their caregivers,
mixed gender families, transgender individuals, as well as the unsheltered.
3. that there is access to these Universal Single Use Rooms during hours when
the Y is not operating and that groups of children are not present — so that they
can be used by anyone regardless of ID or willingness to comply with or ability
to pass, a background check. It might be possible to design the placement of
these rooms so that there is no locker room or pool access without going
through a monitored area.
4. that there be no fee required to use these public/non-profit supported Single
Use Facilities.
It takes the whole village...
Barbara Morey, Housing Advocate
Port Townsend
bemorey@yahoo.com
*The Morning Chronicle was a newspaper founded in 1769 in London. It was
notable for having been the first steady employer of essayist William Hazlitt as a
political reporter and the first steady employer of harles Dickens as a journalist. It
was the first newspaper to employ a salaried woman journalist Eliza Lynn Linton; for
publishing the articles by en a hew that were collected and published in book
format in 1851 as London Labour and the London Poor; and for publishing other
major writers, such as John Stuart ill.The newspaper published under various
owners until 1862, when its publication was suspended,
Nevertheless, she persisted...
PORT TOWNSEND CITY COUNCIL
CONSENT AGENDA
July 17, 2023
A. Approval of Bills, Claims and Warrants:
Vouchers 172303 through 172455 in the amount of $934,515.29
B. Approval of Minutes: June 20, 2023
C. Approval to Authorize Agreement for City Council Chambers Upgrade
Action: Move to adopt the consent agenda or request to remove any individual
item from the consent agenda. (Short statements or easily resolved questions are
appropriate without removing item from the consent agenda).
DRAFT
CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND
MINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING OF JUNE 20, 2023
CALL TO ORDER/ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Port Townsend City Council met in a Regular Business Meeting on the 20th day of
June 2023 in Council Chambers at 540 Water Street. Mayor David Faber called the
meeting to order at 6:00pm
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers present at roll call were David Faber, Monica MickHager, Aislinn
Palmer, Owen Rowe, Ben Thomas, and Libby Wennstrom with Amy Howard excused.
Staff members present were City Manager John Mauro , City Attorney Heidi Greenwood
, Public Works Director Steve King , Parks and Recreation Strategy Director Carrie Hite,
Planning and Community Development Director Emma Bolin , Assistant City Engineer
Jeff Kostechka, and City Clerk Alyssa Rodrigues.
CHANGES TO THE AGENDA
There were no changes to the agenda.
SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS
There were no Special Presentations.
COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
Public comment
City Staff Response
There was no public comment.
CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of Bills, Claims and Warrants
Approval of Minutes: May 1, 2023, May 08, 2023, May 15, 2023
Appointments/Reappointments: Parks, Recreation, Trees and Trails Advisory
Board, Lodging Tax Advisory Committee, Library Advisory Board, Historic
Preservation Committee, Arts Commission,
Mountain View Campus Pool Roof Repairs
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DRAFT
Resolution 23-036 Authorizing the City Manager to Execute all Agreements
Necessary to Complete the Library Window Replacement Project
Motion: Monica MickHager moved to approve the consent agenda. Owen Rowe
seconded.
Vote: motion carried unanimously, 6-0 by voice vote.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Ordinance 3314 Amending Port Townsend Municipal Code Chapter 10.28 Speed
Limits Established by Adding Four New Section
Mr. Mauro introduced Ordinance 3314.
Public Works Director Steve King presented Ordinance 3314 Amending Port
Townsend Municipal Code Chapter 10.28 Speed Limits Established by Adding Four
New Sections which included second reading, autonomous vehicle, ELR data on
speed reduction, corners, and staff recommending moving forward.
In response to Council's clarifying questions staff explained cost is in the annual
striping contract, action tonight proposed for three ELR's for this year, tracking
success statics, and self -driving cars model in relation to ELR's
Public Comment:
There was no public comment.
Council discussed not having code revisions for every ELR, autonomous vehicles,
positives of ELR's, GIS maps in relation to ELR's, state and federal roads unpaved
in United States, and future technology changes.
Motion: Monica MickHager moved to approve Ordinance 3314 Amending Port
Townsend Municipal Code Chapter 10.28 Speed Limits Established by Adding Four
New Sections Aislinn Palmer seconded.
Vote: motion carried unanimously, 6-0 by voice vote.
NEW BUSINESS
Resolution 23-037 Renaming the Port Townsend Skate Park to Seamus Sims
Memorial Skate Park and Resolution 23-038 Renaming Triangle III Park as
Speakers' Corner
Mr. Mauro introduced Resolution 23-037 and Resolution 23-038.
Mr. King provided background on Triangle III Park as Speaker's Corner.
Deborah Berreth provided background on Seamus Sims and Port Townsend Skate
Park creation, as well as Seamus Sims Memorial Skate Park renaming.
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In response to Council's clarifying questions, the Mayor confirmed per policy the City DRAFT
will have to wait until next February to rename. In addition, staff explained the process
for naming the park and receiving feedback from family, Mayor confirmed they will
send it to Parks, Recreation, Trees and Trails Advisory Board for final confirmation and
it will come back on future consent agenda.
Public Comment:
Benny Early spoke about Seamus Sims and the Seamus Sims Memorial Skate Park
renaming.
Bo Winterburn spoke about Seamus Sims and the Seamus Sims Memorial Skate
Park renaming.
Scott Walker spoke about former Council member and County Commissioner Dan
Harpole and his role in the Port Townsend Skate Park.
Micah Van Lelyveld spoke about Seamus Sims and the Seamus Sims Memorial
Skate Park renaming.
Council discussed history of Port Townsend Skate Park, appreciation for public
comment, honoring Seamus Sims, honoring civic spirit, and Parks, Recreation,
Trees and Trails Advisory Board recommendation of name changes.
Motion: Monica MickHager moved to approve Resolution 23-038 Renaming Triangle 111
Park to Speakers' Corner. Aislinn Palmer seconded.
Vote: motion carried unanimously, 6-0 by voice vote.
Motion: Ben Thomas moved to approve Resolution 23-037 Renaming the Port
Townsend Skate Park to Seamus Sims Memorial Skate Park subject to consultation
with Parks Board and family and further action by Council effective one year after its
passing on February 18, 2024. Aislinn Palmer seconded.
Vote: motion carried unanimously, 6-0 by voice vote.
Envision Golf Course and Mountain View Commons Council Debrief
Mr. Mauro introduced the Envision Golf Course and Mountain View Commons
Council Debrief.
Park and Recreation Strategy Director Carrie Hite and Principal and Landscape
Architect, Groundswell Studio, Chris Jones presented the Golf Course and Mountain
View Commons Concept Planning presentation which included Agenda, Project
Purpose, Creating a Vision, Project Goal, Project Facts, Project Schedule, Golf
Course Analysis, Viability of Par 3 Golf, Open House #1, What We've Heard,
Decision Making Criteria, Focused Outreach, Online/In Person Combined, Online
Survey, High School Engagement, High School Priorities- Golf Course, High School
Priorities- Mt. View, Open House #2, Concept #1- Restored Golf Course, Concept
#2- Hybrid Golf Course, Concept #2a- Space For Nature, Concept #3- Central Park,
Open House #2 Results, Open House #3, Central Park, Hybrid Golf Course and
Discussion.
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DRAFT
In response to Council's clarifying questions Mr. Jones and Ms. Hite explained not
having a return on investment from Operator or City, state grant funding, affordable
housing decision process and residential zoning, possibility of organic Golf Course,
Kah Tai history tie in, walkable trail hybrid plan, possible conflict between holes,
operational costs for City for each scheme having been reviewed In addition, they
explained no shielding for pedestrians from golf balls north of C, hybrid Golf Course
would limit use of Golf Course, considering operational hours, competitiveness of
RCO grants, not getting grants to move holes, grant process, adding native plants,
aligning internal trails to neighborhood feeder trails, costs associated with water use,
opportunity for limitation on seasons, portable buildings will remain on Mt. View
campus, and accessibility and cultural shift.
Public Comment:
David Meissner spoke about keeping the Golf Course.
Robert Horner spoke about alternative hybrid plan presented by golfers.
Forest Shomer spoke about the Shore Aquatic Center in Port Angeles and parking,
as well as central dog park parking requirements.
Council discussed designated parking on Mt. View site and services, dog parks in
neighborhoods, volunteer labor, maintenance, hybrid use being limited for non -golf
use, and having an engaged community.
First Quarter 2023 Financial Update
Mr. Mauro introduced the First Quarter 2023 Financial Update.
Finance and Technology Service Director Connie Anderson presented the First
Quarter 2023 Financial Update which included the Revenue vs. Expense Summary
For the Period Ending March 31, 2023.
In response to Council's clarifying questions staff explained Golf Course contract
and timing.
Public Comment:
There was no public comment.
Council discussed appreciation for level of detail in report.
Evans Vista Update Briefing
Mr. Mauro introduced Evans Vista Update Briefing.
Planning and Community Development Director Emma Bolin presented the Evans
June 20, 2023 City Council Business Meeting Page 4 of 7
Vista Update Briefing which included previous briefings, engagement opportunities, DRAFT
Technical Advisory Group, survey, youth engagement, site concepts discussion, public
engagement, site investigation phase, clean up event, homelessness, contractor,
wetland, and no trespass posting on site.
In response to Council's clarifying questions staff explained community involvement
with clean up, survey engagement, and survey timing.
Public Comment:
There was no public comment.
Council discussed appreciation for staff and sensitive approach to people living on
the site.
Public Works Fee Briefing
Mr. Mauro introduced Public Works Fee Briefing.
Mr. King presented the Public Works Fee Briefing which included previous
discussions, County approach to Transfer Station changing, outdated fees, connection
to other items, water meter turn off charges, and Jefferson County Transfer Station
minimum tipping fee.
In response to Council's clarifying questions staff explained County decision around
tipping fees, General Sewer Plan expenses, increase in curbside pickup for City
residents, lack of volume shortage, and possible mixed loads on small quantities.
Mr. King continued with his presentation which included water fee updates, nominal
charges, after hours emergency shut off fees, hourly equipment charges, operator
charges, retail rates, Sims Way banner fees, and vertical banner fees.
In response to Council's clarifying questions staff explained when water testing is
needed and process, Sims Way banner charge including install and removal,
Intergovernmental Rates, infrastructure incentive funds, 1.5 or 2 inches would be
commercial or multi family, and nine years since increase.
Public Comment:
There was no public comment.
Council discussed when it will come back to Council.
Ordinance 3316 Related to Sidewalk Improvements and Amending Port
Townsend Municipal Code Section 12.04.140
Mr. Mauro introduced Ordinance 3316.
June 20, 2023 City Council Business Meeting Page 5 of 7
Assistant City Engineer Jeff Kostechka presented Ordinance 3316 Related to DRAFT
Sidewalk Improvements and Amending Port Townsend Municipal Code Section
12.04.140 which included Agenda and Problem Statement, Consider, How Did we Get
Here?, Current Challenges, Austin- 1600 Miles Missing Sidewalk, Travis County,
Texas, *Other Cities, Towns, Counties, Fee in Lieu: Washington State, Business as
Usual, PT Sidewalk Inventory, 3rd Option, Fee in Lieu of Program, Allowed Per:, EDS
Sidewalk Requirements:, Example: San Juan near 47th, Example: San Juan to Kuhn,
Example: 19th San Juan to Landes, Castle Hill, Downtown and Uptown, North Beach,
Fee in Lieu of Sidewalk, Non -Motorized Plan Projects, Fee Determination, Process,
Recommendations and Next Steps, and Sources.
In response to Council's clarifying questions staff explained Transportation Impact
Fees in relation to sidewalks/streets, grant matching, Fee in Lieu for Sidewalks being
an option, fees going into one bucket and target all areas of town, Fee in Lieu prices in
relation to building sidewalk prices, and non -motorized plan.
Public Comment:
Meg Lodes spoke about Fee in Lieu of Sidewalks and sidewalk requirement financial
burden for developers of lots.
Staff confirmed R1 does not require sidewalks.
Council discussed this not being an additional fee, permit issued in last five years
where sidewalk was waived, not refunding money, fairness of priority list, five years
set by RCW, and discount rate.
Motion: Owen Rowe moved to approve first reading of Ordinance 3316 Related to
Sidewalk Improvements and Amending Port Townsend Municipal Code Section
12.04.140. Libby Wennstrom seconded.
Vote: motion carried unanimously, 6-0 by voice vote.
PRESIDING OFFICER'S REPORT
Mayor Faber provided the Presiding Officer's Report which included Field Operators Day
and Gregg Colburn - Homelessness is a Housing Problem presentation.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
Mr. Mauro provided the City Manager's Report which included promotions, recruitment,
department director training, Kearney St bids, Discovery Rd bids, Springbrook Software
Conversion, Alarm System, Financial Sustainability Initiative, and Financial Sustainability
Task Force.
SUGGESTIONS FOR NEXT OR FUTURE AGENDA, REGULAR MEETING AND/OR
STUDY SESSION
June 20, 2023 City Council Business Meeting Page 6 of 7
No suggestions were made. DRAFT
No comments were made.
COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL
ADJOURN
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:35pm.
Attest:
Alyssa Rodrigues
City Clerk
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Submitted By: Heidi Greenwood
Department: Library
Agenda Bill AB23-195
Meeting Date: July 17, 2023
Agenda Item: VLC
® Regular Business Meeting
❑ Workshop/Study Session
❑ Special Business Meeting
Date Submitted: July 11, 2023
Contact Phone: 344-3054
SUBJECT: Approval to authorize agreements for a City Council Chambers upgrade.
CATEGORY: BUDGET IMPACT:
❑ Consent ❑ Resolution Expenditure Amount: $20,000
❑ Staff Report ❑x Ordinance Included in Budget? Yes ❑x No ❑
❑ Contract Approval ❑ Other:
❑ Public Hearing (Legislative, unless otherwise noted)
❑ 3 -Year Strategic Plan: N/A
Cost Allocation Fund: 010-080 GF - City Clerk - Council Support
SUMMARY STATEMENT: As part of the City's American Rescue Plan Act grant, the
City reserved money to upgrade the City Council Chambers, particularly the audio-
visual technology. The cameras and microphones in the City Council Chambers are
outdated, low resolution, and at end of life. Staff has researched options for upgrading
the cameras and microphones and proposes two OWL conference cameras along with
new gooseneck microphones and an auto -mixer.
In addition to the new audio-visual equipment, City staff anticipates new chairs and
modesty panels for the Council desks, new staff chairs, a coat rack, paint, and
additional wall monitors in Chambers. Staff has already purchased new Chambers
conference tables.
ATTACHMENTS:
CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION: N/A/
RECOMMENDED ACTION: If adopted as part of the Consent Agenda, no further action
is needed; this effectively represents unanimous approval to authorize agreements for a
City Council Chamber upgrade.
ALTERNATIVES:
❑x Take No Action ❑x Refer to Committee ❑x Refer to Staff ❑x Postpone Action
❑ Remove from Consent Agenda ❑ Waive Council Rules and approve Ordinance
❑ Other:
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Submitted By: Steve King, PW Director
Department: Public Works
Agenda Bill AB23-196
Meeting Date: July 17, 2023
Agenda Item: VILA
® Regular Business Meeting
❑ Workshop/Study Session
❑ Special Business Meeting
Date Submitted: July 12, 2023
Contact Phone: 360-379-5090
SUBJECT: Resolution 23-041 Approving the 2024-2029 Six -Year Transportation
Improvement Program
CATEGORY:
❑ Consent
■
■
Staff Report
BUDGET IMPACT: N/A
❑x Resolution Expenditure Amount: $
❑ Ordinance Included in Budget? Yes ❑ No ❑
Contract Approval ❑ Other: Workshop — No Action
❑ Public Hearing (Legislative, unless otherwise noted)
❑ 3 -Year Strategic Plan: 4 - Ensure sustainable future for public services and facilities
Cost Allocation Fund: Choose an item.
SUMMARY STATEMENT:
Annually the City is required to adopt a Six Year Transportation Improvement Program
(STIP) and submit it to the State of Washington.
The purpose of the STIP is to ensure that cities are planning for needed transportation
improvements with an outlook on the relatively near future. Typically, agency STIPs
include more need than funding which is reasonably available. The attached STIP for
2024-2029 illustrates a need of approximately $116 million. This seems quite
unattainable, thus leading to the second purpose. Most grant programs for transportation
dollars require that projects be included in the STIP in order to be eligible. The STIP
shows that the agency is thinking ahead to needs that are generally based off adopted
plans, comprehensive plan policies, or simple deficiencies. A third purpose for the STIP
is to identify needs for transportation funding. City staff has assigned ballpark estimates
for the project and estimated the breakdown between federal, state, and local funds. This
STIP includes an estimated need for local funding of $26 million based on a 20% match.
This is a typical share of grant funding as well as the cost to administer projects.
Staff would like to point out that the form of the STIP follows the state forms which includes
a priority number. The projects in the STIP have not been prioritized formally. Projects
that are funded are placed as top priority because they typically have timelines for
completion. Funded projects are denoted with a "S" in the funding status column. The
remaining projects that are not funded are pushed out to the 6t" year and are not
prioritized. These projects are denoted with a "P" to represent planned projects. Staff
has ordered the projects based on recent funding and discussions with the City Council;
however, grant requirements and criteria often drive what projects are selected to move
forward.
Updates from previous year's STIP adoption in 2022 include the following:
1. Project descriptions were updated with clarifying language.
2. Project cost estimates were updated for all projects based rough approximations
from and generally using cost per mile estimating procedures. In other words,
except for the funded projects, the estimates are order of magnitude estimates.
When an application for a grant is developed, the estimates are refined based on
project scope.
3. Last year's STIP included 49 projects. This year's proposal includes 54 projects.
4. The transportation portion of the ADA Transition Plan was completed earlier in
2023, so this was removed from the STIP list.
5. The section of Sims Way from Sheridan to Logan was added to the list as a
clarified project. This was an update, acknowledging work needed on Sims Way
to fill the gap in the bike and pedestrian facilities network on that segment of
road. This section of Sims Way was included in previous STIPs as part of a
larger segment of Sims Way improvements.
6. The projects identified for Sims Way were previously listed as four separate
projects. The 2024-2029 STIP list has this work divided into six separate
projects, with two additional project identified: 1) The section of Sims Way
between Sheridan and Logan described above. 2) The work along Sims Way that
would complement the Port Townsend Boatyard Expansion Project, described as
"Boatyard expansion includes tree replacement and bike/pedestrian facilities on
Boatyard side".
7. The City was recently funded for Olympic Discovery Trail planning through the
region -wide federal RAISE grant. Four projects were added reflecting this award.
These projects are likely to be partnership projects with the Port of Port
Townsend and Jefferson County.
8. The 2023 Banked Capacity project for street repair was added to the list given
part of the work will be completed in 2024.
9. All projects to be completed in 2023 were removed from the list.
Staff presents the above information and associated resolution for this public hearing
and Council consideration. Staff recommends adoption of this STIP and submittal to the
State as required.
ATTACHMENTS: Resolution 23- 041 and the 2024-2029 STIP
CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION: N/A
RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Move to approve Resolution 23-041 approving the 2024-2029 Six-year Transportation
Improvement Program.
ALTERNATIVES:
❑ Take No Action ❑x Refer to Committee ❑x Refer to Staff ❑x Postpone Action
❑ Remove from Consent Agenda ❑ Waive Council Rules and approve Ordinance
❑ Other:
RESOLUTION NO. 23-041
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND,
WASHINGTON, APPROVING THE 2024-2029 SIX-YEAR TRANSPORTATION
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
WHEREAS, the City Council has reviewed the 2024-2029 Six -Year Transportation
Improvement Program (TIP) and held a public hearing on July 17, 2022 for public comment;
and,
WHEREAS, the City is required by the State of Washington Department of
Transportation (WSDOT) to adopt its annual six-year Transportation Improvement Program
(TIP) by June 30 of each year; and,
WHEREAS, the TIP is primarily intended to designate federally funded and regionally
significant projects; and,
WHEREAS, the City Council has established priorities for transportation improvement
projects and these are reflected in the TIP;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Port
Townsend that the Mayor is hereby authorized to sign this resolution approving the Six -Year
Transportation Improvement Program for 2024-2029 for submission to the State Department of
Transportation for their State Transportation Improvement Program (STIP) and that the City
Manager may make minor modifications to the TIP for the next 12 months to reflect changes in
project funding or implementation schedules that may more closely align with actual project
progress and to meet the needs of WSDOT and the STIP.
ADOPTED by the City Council of the City of Port Townsend at a regular meeting
thereof, held this 17th day of July 2023.
Attest:
City Clerk
David J. Faber
Mayor
Approved as to form:
Heidi Greenwood
City Attorney
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C... ty Name Jefferson C... ty
Port Tow .... d
MPO/RTPO: NON/PEN
Co. No.: 16
City No.: 1005
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ennanced t—Ilt stopsand cross ngs andrntereseR on safety mprwemenis=
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3 of 5
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C... ty Name
Jefferson C... ty
Port Tow.... d
MPO/RTPO:
NON/PEN
Co. No.: 16
City No.: 1005
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of 5
Six Year Transportation Improvement Program (2024 - 2029)
C... ty Name
leffereo. C... ty
Port Tow .... d
MPO/RTPO:
NON/PEN
Co. No.: 16
City No.: 1005
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1st 2nd
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6th
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2029 P
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O.10 ALL
P
600,000.
150,000
750,000 CE N
from: S..]... Ave to Pettygrove Street
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2,300,000
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Total Local
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1,933,000
89,061,309
25,458,990
Total of All Funds 116,453,299
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Submitted By: Emma Bolin
Department: Planning and Community
Agenda Bill AB23-197
Meeting Date: July 17, 2023
Agenda Item: VIII.A and VIILB
® Regular Business Meeting
❑ Workshop/Study Session
❑ Special Business Meeting
Date Submitted: July 12, 2023
Contact Phone: 360-390-4048
SUBJECT: Move to approve second reading of Ordinance 3317 Related to Peace,
Morals, and Safety Repealing Chapters 9.08- Nuisances, 9.10 Punishment and
Abatement of Nuisances, 9.12- Burning Permits, 9.16- Storage of Petroleum Products,
and 9.32- Malt Liquor Sales and Distribution of the Port Townsend Municipal Code and
Adopting a New Chapter 9.08 Nuisances and Ordinance 3318 Related to Minor
Landscaping in the Right of Way and Amending Sections 12.04.030 and 12.04.075 of
the Port Townsend Municipal Code
CATEGORY: BUDGET IMPACT:
❑ Consent ❑ Resolution Expenditure Amount: $
❑ Staff Report ❑x Ordinance Included in Budget? Yes ❑ No ❑
❑ Contract Approval ❑ Other:
❑ Public Hearing (Legislative, unless otherwise noted)
❑ 3 -Year Strategic Plan: N/A
SUMMARY STATEMENT: Public Works and Department of Planning and Community
Development staff presents our recommendation to repeal and replace the City's
Nuisance code, Chapter 9.08 Port Townsend Municipal Code (PTMC) as well as
repealing other obsolete chapters in Title 9 PTMC. While this may appear as a major
rewrite of the code, it primarily focuses on organizational improvements and the removal
of outdated provisions, rather than substantial changes. The need for this update arose
from right-of-way (ROW) maintenance concerns that initiated a broader discussion on
enhancing efficiency and safety within our City.
CHANGES FOR SECOND READING:
• 9.08.030(E)(1): Added "outdoor" to clarify location of unattended or discarded
refrigerators.
• 9.08.030(H): Added "belonging to another person" to allow for people to attach
materials to their own vehicle.
• 9.08.030(1)(2): Removed list of recreational vehicles in item A, as this is already
stated in the definition of recreational vehicle in 9.08.010. Added "except when
stored inside of a garage or other enclosed structure" to items A and C to clarify
that additional boats and RV are permitted when in a garage. Added "stored" to
item B to provide clarification, and also added "side or rear" to specify which
property lines setback applies to.
RECAP OF GOALS STATED IN FIRST READING: Through extensive staff
brainstorming, we have identified the following goals and reasons for incorporating
ROW maintenance into the nuisance code -
1 .
ode:1. Efficient use of City staff time and resources: Currently, approximately one-third
of all street maintenance time is dedicated to vegetation management in the
ROW. By integrating ROW maintenance into the nuisance code, we can redirect
our attention towards more critical street repairs, ensuring the efficient utilization
of City staff time and resources.
2. Equity: The majority of residents diligently maintain their right of way, resulting in
a City subsidy for those who do not comply, often including large vacant lots or
tracts. Incorporating ROW maintenance into the nuisance code ensures a fair
and equitable approach, where all property owners are responsible for the
upkeep of their respective ROW areas.
3. City machinery impact: We have discussed the issue of City machinery causing
harm to plants with the Parks Board. By including ROW maintenance in the
nuisance code, we can address this concern, promoting better practices and
mitigating potential harm to vegetation within the right of way.
4. Enforcement capabilities: The inclusion of ROW maintenance in the nuisance
code enables the City to enforce compliance when property owners fail to
adequately maintain their ROW areas. This will help ensure that the ROW
remains safe and accessible for pedestrians and the traveling public.
Our overarching goal is to ensure that property owners maintain their ROW areas in a
manner that is safe and accessible to the traveling public. As we move forward, we
must consider the following reasons for repealing and replacing the entire nuisance
code chapter, rather than making narrow changes -
1 .
hanges:1. Outdated and disorganized code: The current nuisance code is outdated,
repetitive, and lacks proper organization. A comprehensive repeal and
replacement will streamline the code, making it more efficient for both the City
staff and the community to navigate and utilize.
2. Language improvements: The code requires linguistic enhancements to ensure
its effectiveness. Repealing and replacing the code allows us to incorporate
improved language that aligns with the present-day needs and expectations of
our community.
3. Code conflicts: The existing code conflicts with other sections within our
municipal regulations. A holistic repeal and replacement approach will allow us to
resolve these conflicts and create a harmonious and consistent regulatory
framework.
To address the gaps in the current nuisance code and better serve our community, the
proposed updated code includes new sections that specifically address the following
issues:
1. Right-of-way maintenance: a. Vegetation over walkways and in the clear vision
area b. Grass in the right-of-way and ditches.
2. Buildings and structures: a. Unsafe and damaged buildings b. Partially
constructed buildings c. Lack of water and sanitation d. Buildings open to the
elements.
3. Regulations on storing RVs to preserve lot area for housing density. The Culture
and Society Committee recommended that staff consider an additional allowance
for situations in which a property owner stores a travel trailer AND/OR a boat
greater than 18 feet in length. They also recommended language that would
regulate where an allowed RV over 8 feet in height may be stored within five feet
of a property line. These additional provisions help promote good neighbors so
that one landowner does not unreasonably interfere with another's use and
enjoyment of land.
Additionally, the revised code incorporates a new section for Minor Nuisance
Enforcement. This section introduces appropriate fines to encourage quick voluntary
compliance and reasonable penalties in cases of non-compliance.
Our recommendation to repeal and replace the nuisance code is aimed at creating a
more comprehensive and effective regulatory framework that ensures the maintenance
of our city's ROW areas, promotes safety, and addresses a wider range of nuisances.
Our City Code Compliance Officer has been invaluable in assisting with outreach and
education so that people understand why the codes exist and how to comply so that
enforcement is a last resort. Their outreach will include non-resident property owners of
vacant land who have not been maintaining the right-of-way adjacent to their lots. By
modernizing the code, we will streamline its use for the community, encourage voluntary
compliance, and protect the health and well-being of our residents.
ATTACHMENTS:
1. Ordinance 3317, with Exhibit A
2. Ordinance 3318
3. Nuisance Code Exhibit F
4. Brochure Right of Way Maintenance Requirements
5. Nuisance Code Update Presentation
CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION: On June 14, 2023, the Council
Culture and Society reviewed the draft ordinance and referred to full Council first review
with suggestions for ordinance improvement.
RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Move to approve second reading of Ordinance 3317 Related to Peace, Morals,
and Safety Repealing Chapters 9.08- Nuisances, 9.10 Punishment and
Abatement of Nuisances, 9.12- Burning Permits, 9.16- Storage of Petroleum
Products, and 9.32- Malt Liquor Sales and Distribution of the Port Townsend
Municipal Code and Adopting a New Chapter 9.08 Nuisances.
• Move to approve second reading of Ordinance 3318 Related to Minor
Landscaping in the Right of Way and Amending Sections 12.04.030 and
12.04.075 of the Port Townsend Municipal Code
ALTERNATIVES:
❑ Take No Action ❑ Refer to Committee ❑x Refer to Staff ❑x Postpone Action
❑ Remove from Consent Agenda ❑x Waive Council Rules and approve Ordinance 3317
❑ Other:
Ordinance 3317
Page 1 of 2
Ordinance 3317
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND, WASHINGTON,
RELATED TO PEACE, MORALS, AND SAFETY REPEALING CHAPTERS 9.08 —
NUISANCES, 9.10 - PUNISHMENT AND ABATEMENT OF NUISANCES, 9.12 -
BURNING PERMITS, 9.16 - STORAGE OF PETROLEUM PRODUCTS, AND 9.32 -
MALT LIQUOR SALES AND DISTRIBUTION OF THE PORT TOWNSEND
MUNICIPAL CODE AND ADOPTING A NEW CHAPTER 9.08 NUISANCES
Recitals:
A. Chapter 9.08 - Nuisances of the Port Townsend Municipal Code has provisions that
date to 1895 and is disorganized, repetitive, and in need of revision.
B. Chapter 9.10 - Punishment and Abatement of Nuisances dates from 1978 and is
duplicative of Chapter 9.08.
C. Chapter 9.12 - Burning Permits dates from 1947, is inconsistent with the Revised
Code of Washington, and is obsolete since the Port Townsend was annexed by East
Jefferson Fire and Rescue.
D. Chapter 9.16 - Storage of Petroleum Products dates from 1911 and is obsolete since
the Department of Ecology regulates the storage of petroleum products.
E. Chapter 9.32 — Malt Liquor Sales and Distribution dates from 1986 and is obsolete
since keg purchases are regulated by the Washington State Liquor and Cannabis
Control Board.
NOW, THEREFORE, the City Council of the City of Port Townsend ordains as
follows:
SECTION 1. Repeal. Chapter 9.08 — Nuisances of the Port Townsend Municipal
Code, which sections are set forth in Exhibit A is hereby repealed.
SECTION 2. Repeal. Chapter 9.10 — Punishment and Abatement of Nuisances of
the Port Townsend Municipal Code, which sections are set forth in Exhibit B is hereby repealed.
SECTION 3. Repeal. Chapter 9.12 — Burning Permits of the Port Townsend
Municipal Code, which sections are set forth in Exhibit C is hereby repealed.
SECTION 4. Repeal. Chapter 9.16 — Storage of Petroleum Products of the Port
Townsend Municipal Code, which sections are set forth in Exhibit D is hereby repealed.
SECTION 5. Repeal. Chapter 9.32 — Malt Liquor Sales and Distribution of the Port
Townsend Municipal Code, which sections are set forth in Exhibit E is hereby repealed.
SECTION 6. A new Chapter 9.08 - Nuisances of the City of Port Townsend Municipal
Code is hereby enacted as shown in Exhibit F.
Ordinance 3317
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SECTION 7. If any section, sentence, clause or phrase of this ordinance should be
held to be invalid or unconstitutional by a court of competent jurisdiction, such invalidity or
unconstitutionality shall not affect the validity of any other section, sentence, clause, or phrase
of this ordinance.
SECTION 8. Notwithstanding any provisions to the contrary in Chapter 1.01.015 of the
Port Townsend Municipal Code, staff and the Code Reviser are authorized to update and
incorporate changes adopted in the Port Townsend Municipal Code. Staff and the Code Reviser
are further authorized to make non -substantive edits related to numbering, grammar, spelling,
and formatting consistent with this ordinance.
SECTION 9. This ordinance shall take effect and be in force five days following its
publication in the manner provided by law.
ADOPTED by the City Council of the City of Port Townsend, Washington, at a regular
meeting thereof, held this 17th day of July 2023.
Attest:
David J. Faber
Mayor
Approved as to Form:
Alyssa Rodrigues Heidi Greenwood
City Clerk City Attorney
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Ordinance 3318
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Ordinance 3318
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND, WASHINGTON,
RELATED TO MINOR LANDSCAPING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND
AMENDING SECTIONS 12.04.030 AND 12.04.075 OF THE PORT TOWNSEND
MUNICIPAL CODE
Recitals:
1. Amendments to the City of Port Townsend Nuisance Code (Chapter 9.08) to include
right-of-way maintenance require further amendments to Chapter 12.04 Transportation and
Right -of -Way to ensure that code provisions do not conflict.
2. This ordinance adds a definition for clear vision area and further clarifies the
landscaping allowed in the clear vision area.
NOW, THEREFORE, the City Council of the City of Port Townsend ordains as
follows:
SECTION 1. Amendment. Section 12.04.030(B) — Specific Definitions of the Port
Townsend Municipal Code is amended in substantially the same form as set forth below:
"City street standards" means those standards for right-of-way and transportation system
constriction and improvement set forth in this chapter and in the city of Port Townsend
"Engineering Design Standards Manual," adopted by reference in PTMC 12.04.040, together
with any other requirements for streets provided by other ordinances of the city.
"Clear vision area" means the area at an intersection with height restrictions imposed on
vegetation, structures, and other sight obstructions to ensure visibility for vehicle operators,
pedestrians, and cyclists, defined as a 20 -foot -by -20 -foot sight triangle as measured from the
edge of pavement or rolling surface as illustrated below.
Edge of street
paveir nemt or _
rolling surface
Street
20 feet i
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vision area
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Grass, vegetation, and/or
side a,Jk area of aright, off -way
Street 20 feet
ii rntersectiioni Street
Ordinance 3318
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"Complete application" means the application form and all accompanying documents, fees and
exhibits required of an applicant by the city for development review purposes, and determined in
writing by the city to be sufficient under PTMC 20.01.110.
SECTION 2. Amendment. Section 12.04.075(C)(3)(a) — Minor Landscaping in the
Right of Way is amended in substantially the same form as set forth below:
a. Does not exceed, and is maintained not to exceed, three feet in height, except within the clear
vision area or within 10 feet of an intersection or a driveway, where it shall not exceed (and is
maintained not to exceed) 30 inches in height. Heights are measured from original grade at the
street surface (and not from the addition of any material).
Exception: To allow for some variation in height, for every 25 feet of frontage, minor
landscaping may extend up to five feet in height for a distance not to exceed five feet in width.
This exception does not apply to toe area within 10 feet of a inter -see ,, the clear vision area
SECTION 3. Amendment. Section 12.04.075(F)(5) -- Departures of the Port
Townsend Municipal Code is amended by changing the exception noted between the first and
second graphics in substantially the same form as set forth below:
Exception: To allow for some variation in height, for every 25 feet of frontage, minor
landscaping may extend up to 5 feet in height for a distance not to exceed 5 feet in width. This
exception does not apply to the area within 10 feet of ar ii—t -so, fthe clear vision area.
SECTION 4. If any section, sentence, clause or phrase of this ordinance should be
held to be invalid or unconstitutional by a court of competent jurisdiction, such invalidity or
unconstitutionality shall not affect the validity of any other section, sentence, clause, or phrase
of this ordinance.
SECTION 5. Notwithstanding any provisions to the contrary in Chapter 1.01.015 of the
Port Townsend Municipal Code, staff and the Code Reviser are authorized to update and
incorporate changes adopted in the Port Townsend Municipal Code. Staff and the Code Reviser
are further authorized to make non -substantive edits related to numbering, grammar, spelling,
and formatting consistent with this ordinance.
SECTION 6. This ordinance shall take effect and be in force five days following its
publication in the manner provided by law.
ADOPTED by the City Council of the City of Port Townsend, Washington, at a regular
meeting thereof, held this 17th day of July 2023.
David J. Faber
Mayor
Attest: Approved as to Form:
Ordinance 3318
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Alyssa Rodrigues Heidi Greenwood
City Clerk City Attorney
Chapter 9.08
NUISANCES
Sections:
9.08.010 Definitions
9.08.020 Nuisances Prohibited.
9.08.030 Types of nuisances.
9.08.040 Enforcement.
9.08.010 Definitions.
As used in this chapter, the following terms have the meanings set forth in this section, unless a
different meaning is clearly indicated by the context.
A. "Apparently Inoperable" means a vehicle that does not appear to comply with requirements
for safe and legal operation on public streets or highways with regard to licensing, registration,
brakes, lights, tires, safety glass, or other safety equipment; or other circumstances or conditions
that are evidence the vehicle is not currently operable, including but not limited to the passenger
compartment filled with trash or debris, vegetation growing inside, around or on the vehicle, or
other evidence that the vehicle has not been moved for an extended period of time.
"Attractive nuisance" means any object or condition that constitutes a hazard or danger, is
accessible to unauthorized persons, and tends to draw attention or entices.
"Director" includes, but is not limited to, the Chief of the Police Department, Director of the
Public Works, the Department of Planning and Community Development, and their designee(s).
"Recreational vehicle" means a vehicular -type unit primarily designed for recreational, camping,
or travel use that has either its own motive power or is mounted on or drawn by another vehicle.
Types of recreational vehicles include but are not limited to travel trailers, truck campers, and
motor homes. This term does not include "tiny houses on wheels" as defined in Chapter 17.08
Port Townsend Municipal Code as amended.
"Vehicle" includes every device capable of being moved upon a public highway and in, upon, or
by which any persons or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a public highway,
including, but not be limited to, automobiles, bicycles, motorcycles, trucks, motorized
recreational vehicles, campers, travel trailers, boats on or off trailers, utility trailers, or other
vehicles defined as such in Title 46 RCW. Campers, if removed from the towing vehicle and
stored separately, are counted as a separate vehicle.
9.08.020 Prohibited Conduct.
It is unlawful for any person to erect, contrive, cause, continue, deposit, maintain, or permit to
exist any nuisance within the City including on the property of any person or upon any public
rights-of-way.
9.08.030 Types of Nuisances.
The following acts, omissions, places, conditions, and things are declared to be nuisances:
A. Vegetation.
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Overgrown, uncultivated, or untended vegetation of any type that substantially covers
structures on the property or substantially blocks or impedes access to structures on the
property.
2. Trees, shrubs, vines, or other vegetation that destroy, impair, interfere, restrict the
visibility, use or access to, or constitute a danger to streets, sidewalks, public trails,
sewers, utility poles, street trees, fire hydrants or any other public improvements.
Noxious weeds as defined in Chapter 16-750 WAC, as amended, or as required for
removal or control by the Jefferson County Noxious Weed Control Board.
4. Accumulation of vegetation waste, including, but not limited to, grass clippings, cut
brush, cut trees, and/or cut weeds, except when in an enclosed container or in a
managed composting operation.
Vegetation, or parts thereof, that hang lower than eight feet above any public
walkway, path or sidewalk; or hang lower than 15 feet above any street; or that are
growing in such a manner as to obstruct or impair the free and full use of any public
walkway, sidewalk, or street.
�. Vegetation greater than 30 inches in height within the clear vision area, as defined by
PTMC 12.04.030, that blocks or impairs motorist, cyclist, or pedestrian visibility.
7. Grass in the public right-of-way greater than twelve inches in height or other
vegetation in the public right-of-way not maintained to requirements established in
PTMC 12.04.075(C), as amended.
Roadside ditches in which the grass is greater than twelve inches in height; or contains
vegetation other than grass that interferes with the City's periodic maintenance of
ditches, unless the vegetation was permitted as a rain garden or stormwater treatment
facility.
B. Buildings, structures, and improvements.
Any building, structure, dwelling, or improvement, or portion thereof, that is decayed,
dilapidated, unsafe, damaged, or in disrepair, to the extent that it poses a threat of
collapse, structural failure, or falling.
Any partially constructed building, structure, dwelling, or improvement, or portion
thereof that has been left unattended and unfinished for more than 90 continuous days.
Any building, structure, dwelling, or improvement, or portion thereof, used for
habitation that does not have functioning electricity, water, or sanitation services.
4. All vacant, unused, or unoccupied buildings, structures, dwellings, or improvements
that are allowed to become or to remain open to entrance by unauthorized persons,
wildlife, or the general public.
C. Accumulations of garbage and materials.
Any accumulation, stack, or pile of building or construction materials not associated
with a current, in -progress project and not in a lawful storage structure or container.
2. Any accumulation of broken, discarded, inoperable, or neglected items or parts
thereof, including, but not limited to, household furniture, furnishings, equipment,
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appliances, machinery, litter, salvage materials, or junk not in an approved enclosed
structure, container, or waste receptacle.
Any garbage, waste, refuse, litter, debris, recyclables, rubble, or other materials, or
combination thereof, not in an approved enclosed structure, container, or waste
receptacle.
4. Any accumulation of materials or objects, including dry vegetation, in a manner that
endangers property or safety, or constitutes a fire hazard as determined by the fire code
official or East Jefferson Fire and Rescue.
D. The erecting, maintaining, using, placing, depositing, leaving or permitting to be or remain in
or upon any private lot, building, structure or premises, or in or upon any street, alley, sidewalk,
park, parkway, or other public or private place in the city, any one or more of the following
disorderly, disturbing, unsanitary, disease -causing places, conditions or things:
Any unsound, putrid, or unwholesome bone, meat, hides, skin, or the whole or parts of
any dead animal or fish or the offal, garbage, or other offensive parts of any animals.
2. Any materials, garbage, waste, refuse, litter, or debris in which insects may breed or
multiply or which may provide harborage for rats or other vermin.
3. Any open drain, sewer, or septic tank that emits any noxious, foul, offensive, injurious,
unpleasant, or disagreeable odor or substance.
4. Any noxious, foul, or putrid substance.
E. Dangerous or hazardous conditions.
The existence on any outdoor premises, in a place accessible to children, of any
unattended or discarded icebox, refrigerator or other large appliance;
2. Any excavated or naturally occurring hole, vault, sump, pit, well, or any other similar
condition, that is not fenced or otherwise secured to prevent access.
Allowing, creating or maintaining the existence of an attractive nuisance.
4. The existence on any premises of any abandoned or unused well, cistern or storage
tank without first demolishing or removing from the city such storage tank or securely
closing and barring any entrance or trapdoor thereto or without filling any well or
cistern or capping the same with sufficient security to prevent access thereto by
children.
F. Streets, sidewalks, and public rights-of-way.
Any condition in which the abutting property owner fails to maintain the public right
of way, including but not limited to vegetation maintenance, litter removal, and
sidewalk maintenance, from the frontage directly adjacent to their property and
extending to the centerline of the adjacent right-of-way, excluding street surface of
City maintained streets.
2. Any protrusion, awning, or overhang that inhibits or obstructs use of a public walkway
or sidewalk unless otherwise permitted.
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3. Any object, construction, damage, condition, or act that interferes with, inhibits,
obstructs, or renders dangerous the use of a public walkway, sidewalk, street, alley and
rights-of-way.
4. Any fence, wall, arbor, hedge or other partially or totally sight -obscuring installation
or feature over 30 inches in height within a clear vision area, defined as a 20 -foot -by -
20 -foot sight triangle measured from the edge of the road surface.
5. The existence of a sidewalk or a portion of a sidewalk adjacent to any premises which
is out of repair, and in a condition to endanger persons or property, or in a condition to
interfere with the public convenience in the use of such sidewalk, including but not
limited to uncleared snow or ice.
6. The existence of any obstruction to a street, alley, crossing or sidewalk, or public
right-of-way, and any excavation in or under any street, alley, crossing or sidewalk, or
public right-of-way, which is by ordinance prohibited, or which is made without
lawful permission, or which, having been made by lawful permission, is kept and
maintained after the purpose thereof has been accomplished, and for an unreasonable
length of time;
7. The existence of any drainage onto or over any sidewalk or public pedestrian way.
G. Animals.
Feeding of wild geese, ducks, gulls, deer, and other wildlife, which feeding results in
aggressive behavior toward humans or other animals, or in the deposit of refuse,
debris, fecal matter, or other offensive substance in any place in the city, to the
prejudice or annoyance of any person, or which impedes the safe flow of vehicle and
pedestrian traffic.
2. Keeping, using or maintaining within the city any pen, stable, lot, place or premises in
which any hogs, cattle, or fowls may be confined or kept in such manner as to be
nauseous, foul or offensive to a reasonable person.
Riding or leading horses upon the sidewalks or parking strips anywhere within the city
limits;
H. Throwing, placing, attaching, hanging, posting or depositing upon any motor vehicle
belonging to another person, telephone pole, power pole, street light pole or similar utility pole
or structure, any handbill, poster, printed or written matter, any sample, advertising matter,
circular, leaflet, pamphlet, paper, booklet or any other printed or otherwise reproduced original
or copy of any matter of literature, except that this provision shall not be construed to:
Prohibit the identification of a firm or its products on a vehicle, and
2. Prohibit signs upon utility poles for utility identification or similar purposes.
L Motor vehicles.
The existence or maintenance on any premises of a storage area, junk yard or dumping
ground for the wrecking or disassembling of automobiles, trucks, trailers, recreational
vehicles, boats, tractors or other vehicle or machinery of any kind, or for the storing or
leaving of worn out, wrecked, junk, apparently inoperable, or abandoned automobiles,
trucks, trailers, recreational vehicles, boats, tractors or other vehicles or machinery of
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any kind or of any major parts thereof, except as allowed by the other ordinances of
the city.
I Storage of the following on a single-family residential lot:
�. More than one t+ai,el t+ailer-, ek eafnpeF, fnateF home, eF ether
recreational vehicle, except when stored inside of a garage or other enclosed
structure. t44 is designed „ tefnpeFat—, dwelling f9F off sit,
E. A recreational vehicle or boat greater than 8 feet in height stored within 5
feet of a side or rear property line.
c. More than one boat greater than 18 feet in length, except when stored inside
of a_garage or other enclosed structure, or the storing of a boat in an
unstable manner.
9.08.040 Enforcement.
A. Director's Authority. Whenever the enforcement officer determines that a condition exists in
violation of this chapter or any standard required to be adhered to by this chapter, or in violation
of any permit issued hereunder, the enforcement officer is authorized to enforce the provisions of
this chapter.
B. Chapter 1.20 PTMC Applicable. All violations of any provision of this chapter or
incorporated standards, or of any permit or license issued hereunder, are declared nuisances and
made subject to the administration and enforcement provisions of Chapter 1.20 PTMC, including
any amendments, and including but not limited to abatement, criminal penalty, and civil penalty
as set forth in Chapter 1.20 PTMC, which are incorporated by reference as if set forth herein.
C. In addition to the provisions of Chapter 1.20 of the Port Townsend Municipal Code, any
person maintaining a minor public nuisance after receiving 21 days' notice shall be deemed to
have committed a civil infraction as established in Chapter 7.80 RCW and subject to the
procedures set forth in Chapter 7.80 RCW and applicable court rules.
1. Minor nuisance criteria. Any violation of this chapter that is minor in nature, can
typically be abated in 1-3 days effort, and can typically be abated within the 21 days'
notice.
2. The penalty for a first minor nuisance violation shall be $66.00. The penalty for a
second minor nuisance violation within a one-year period shall be $114.00. The penalty
for a third minor nuisance violation within a one-year period shall be $209.00. The
penalties may be reduced, suspended or deferred in the discretion of the court.
Page 5 of 5
What is a public right-of-way?
. A ROW is an easement for public travel,
utilities, and open space.
. Abutting property owners have
maintainence rights and responsibilities
typically to the edge of the street surface
(or centerline of the right-of-way if there
is no street).
. ROWs may contain improvements such as
public utilities, roads, sidewalks, bike or
pedestrian trails. Some ROWS contain no
improvements.
. Many ROWS serve as valuable open space
for urban forests and wildlife habitat.
View your estimated property
boundaries and measure your ROW
centerline using the City's
transportation map:
ci tyoi IFr i:, irr"o aps, a irc!,is, coirT�o
When is a permit required?
A Minor Improvement Permit is required:
• To apply herbicide in a ROW.
• To establish gravel or paved parking in
the ROW.
• To install raised beds, hardscaping,
pavers, or planting walls in the ROW.
• To establish a rain garden in ROW.
• To grade roadsides
A no fee ROW Tree Permit is required
to plant, prune, or remove trees in a ROW
Rain garden with low vegetation allows for
clear sight lines at intersection
Want to beautify your ROW? See
our Landscaping in the ROW
brochure for more information.
city0f ori de Townsen
Right -of -Way Maintenance
Requirements
Property owner responsibilities for
maintaining public rights-of-way.
Property owner ROW responsibilities ROW vegetation Keep Sight Lines clear!
Maintenance Requirements
Adjacent property owners are required to
maintain the public ROW from their property
line to the centerline of the ROW, including but
not limited to:
• Vegetation and tree maintenance
• Litter and trash removal
• Sidewalk repair and maintenance,
including removal of snow and ice
Unmaintained sidewalk blocks pedestrian
and wheelchair access
Public Works Department ROW Responsibilities
• Most street surfaces*
• Water and sewer utilities
• Stormwater infrastructure, including
periodic maintenance of roadside
ditches
• Only trees in downtown sidewalk
planters
Not all roads are maintained by the
city.
. Keep grass mowed to 12 inches or less
in height, including roadside ditches.
. Trim trees and vegetation to allow for a
minimum clearance of 8 f eet over
sidewalks and 15 feet over streets.
. Control and/or remove noxious weeds
(permit required to apply herbicide).
. Meet the requirements for
"minor landscaping" as defined in PTMC
12.040.075C See the Landscaping in the
right-of-way brochure for more
information.
. Remove d ead, diseased, o r d yi ng trees
(permit required). See Trees in right-of-
way brochure for more information.
Property owners are required to maintain
the "clear vision area" at intersections
to allow motorists, cyclists, and
pedestrians to have a clear view of
oncoming traffic
As illustrated below, the clear vision area
is measured from the corner edge of the
street surface (pavement or gravel) 20
feet in both directions, and may also
include private property.
In the clear vision area, vegetation and
other obstructions shall not exceed 30
inches in height and tree limbs shall be
trimmed to a minimum height of 8 feet to
allow for an open view at intersections.
Vegetation in
Right of Way (ROW)
and Clear Vision Area
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The need to incorporate right-of-way
The City has been discussing a
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Infrastructure and Development
Committee Analysis and Discussion
� Parks' Recreation' Trees' and Traits
Advisory Board Presentation
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Several newsletter articles in the Spri
of 2023.
� KPTZ
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City Council Presentation - ]/6/2]
� PTLeaderarticie- ]/8/2]
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Culture and Society 6/14/23
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Narrow changes adding ROW updates fails to address other
issues:
Code is out of date, repetitive, and disorganized
Code requires improved language to be effective
Code conflicts with other code sections
Repeat and replace is simpler to review, more
streamlined for the community to use and modernizes
the code by removing outdated dead ends.
Jew (ail oae
Sect`bns
Vegetation over walkways and
in the clear vision area
Grass in the right-of-way and
ditches
�)) Buildings and structures
Unsafe and damaged ►
Partially constructed ►
Lack
♦ water and sanitation
�)) Buildings open to the elements
�)) Minor Nuisance Enforcement
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All violations = same enforcement process
• Request for Voluntary Compliance Letter (staff/Director
time)
• Notice and Order of Violation (staff/Director/City Attorney
time)
• Issue Infraction:
$250+ court fees = $513 dollars total
$513 dollar fine too high for minor violations (such as not
mowing right-of-way)
Above process is time consuming for minor violations, does
not allow for fast resolution
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nces
Goal: Quick voluntary compliance
and reasonable penalties if non-compliant.
Must meet minor nuisance criteria:
"Any violation of this chapter that is minor in nature,
can typically be abated in 1-3 days effort, and can
typically be abated within the 21 days' notice."
Minor nuisance process: Leave door hanger giving 21
days' notice and mail a copy to property owner. Check
after 21 days. If they fail to abate, issue infraction and
give 14 days' notice. If they fail to abate, issue
infraction and give 7 days' notice.
See next slide for penalty amounts
Continue to use this enforcement process... but add this one for minor violations.
A A
or, i Jllu'IIsance ir-eaft"IIes
0j, If minor nuisance is not abated within 21 days:
0j, $66 penalty for 1st violation ($136 with court fees)
0j, $114 for 2nd violation within 1 year period ($234 with court fees)
oj, $209 for 3rd or subsequent violations within 1 year period ($429
fees)
0j, Same dollar amounts as noise ordinance.
0j, Too high? Too Low?
0j, Court fees are 105% of base penalty
0
aur'i
Peir-olties, air"id Hardships
oj, Reasonable Deadline Extensions Possible:
0j, Someone contacts our office and provides proof they hired a lands
ROW but it is scheduled a few days after deadline.
0j, Court can reduce or dismiss penalties:
M-90=07-7firmM
Iff MOVE I I
0j, City can request the court to dismiss an infraction
tructure.,, limprover
n g s
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Goal: Ensure that dangerous and del ipidated buildings do not remain open to the
elements and that habitual units have minimum faciIities.
Abandoned building in danger of collapse
with people squatting inside and fires.
: m I
NONNI
;IF
Partially
constructed >90
buildings left days
unattended
Goat: Ensure that residential lots
are not used as storage areas for
recreational vehicles and boats.
Lot in county
showing over a
dozen RVs
Other oc,,."/e Upc,"ate."; T"�Ile 9
Chapter 9.10 - Duplicate code
Chapter 9.12 Burning Permits - Now regulated by EJFR
Chapter 9.16 Storage of Petroleum Products - Regulated by Dept. of Ecology
Chapter 9.31 Malt Liquor Sales - Now regulated by Liquor and Cannabis
Control Board
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J a e uiir.�,
Amend 12.04 to clean up and
improve code for landscaping
in ROW
0), Define "Clear vision area": means the
area at an intersection with height
restrictions imposed on vegetation,
structures, and other sight obstructions
to ensure visibilityfor vehicle operators,
pedestrians, and cyclists, defined as a
20 -foot -by -20 -foot sight triangle as
measured from the edge of pavement
or rollingsurface as illustrated below.
0), Other changes as specified
in Ordinance 3250
lEdge of street
pavern e nt or_
rolling surface
Street
20 feet
Meer
[:C,
1'i.n
Street
intersecdoin
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Grass, vegetation, and/of
sidewalk area ofright, lof-way
Street
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17.68.030 B: Remove "sidewatkas this is incorrect
description of where to measure from.
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This code update wiU be added to a docket when further
updates are made to Titte 17.
From:
Emma Bolin
To:
KT LaBadie; Heidi Greenwood; Steve King
Cc:
Alvssa Rodrigues
Subject:
Fwd: Council comments
Date:
Wednesday, July 5, 2023 5:51:30 PM
Sharing with you. Also sharing with Alyssa for the next council packet.
Some of his suggestions might be easy to incorporate. I'm not sure if he understands the RV
and boat regulations. I'm happy to talk to him one on one about these.
I didn't look too closely at everything, but the point about extensive open sight distance
encouraging higher speeds could be true.
Thanks!
Emma
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From: Scott Walker <walkers@olympus.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 2:42:48 PM
To: Steve King <sking@cityofpt.us>; John Mauro <JMauro@cityofpt.us>; Emma Bolin
<ebolin@cityofpt.us>
Subject: Council comments
CAUTION: External Email
I sent the following comments to city council and thought you'd like to be in the know also.
Scott
*************
Hi all,
I apologize for not making these comments during council's last meeting but I was unable to secure
a Go -to -meeting connection and had to listen on the phone. Please give due consideration to
following comments before adopting the stated ordinances.
Thank you,
Scott
Comments on updates to Chapter 12.04.030 of the PTMC: Minor Landscaping.
I applaud the city's intent but have a significant issue with it.
One can see that almost every intersection AND the vast majority of right-of-ways
adjacent to pavement are currently non-compliant. More importantly, intersection collision data do
not support that greater site distances make intersections less safe. The shorter the sight distance, the
more a driver slows to ensure a safe crossing. With a sight distance of 20', drivers need not slow
much when entering an intersection. To eliminate unnecessary conflicts with adjacent property
owners and to create safer intersections, a 5-10' sight distance triangle is all that's necessary. Please
experience this for yourself before approving this ordinance.
Comments on updates to Chapter 9.08.030 of the PTMC: Nuisances
Section A. 44:
I don't see how this can be reasonably enforced on large lots or acreage and suggest it be
amended but don't have a recommendation for how.
Section A. 45:
I can see this only being enforceable over sidewalks, though a 6' clearance height is more
easily attained, reasonable, and enforceable if needed. Additionally, it is surely the city's
responsibility to ensure vertical clearance over developed streets.
Section F. 44:
Same "site distance" issue as in 12.04.030.
Section F. 45:
Removal of snow and ice needs the addition of a maximum time for removal; perhaps 24
hours.
Section G. 43:
I can't imagine why you would prohibit horses on public sidewalks and planting strips and
wonder if state law is conflicting with this section.
Section L 42.
I suggest that rather than limiting this section to "single family lot", the property size under
one ownership be detailed since a person could have multiple lots or large lots or acreage.
Section L 2. a.:
That this section will prohibit more than one recreational vehicle is perhaps one vehicle
too little. Consider the possibility of someone owning both an RV and a truck camper. Perhaps it
makes more sense to allow no more than two.
Section L 42. b.:
I can't see the reason for restricting the height of a boat to 12' that is within 5' of a
property line
From:
Emma Bolin
To:
Alvssa Rodrigues
Subject:
FW: Minor comments on changes to Chapter 9.08.030
Date:
Monday, July 17, 2023 3:28:31 PM
Hi Alyssa,
Just received this for public comment tonight for the nuisance code item.
Thanks,
Emma
-----Original Message -----
From: David Ehnebuske <david@ehnebuske.net>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 3:18 PM
To: Emma Bolin <ebolin@cityofpt.us>
Subject: Minor comments on changes to Chapter 9.08.030
CAUTION: External Email
In reading through the proposed new version of Chapter 9.08,030 I offer the following comments for your
consideration.
9.08.030.0.2: It's a common practice in the City for residents to place items they no longer need, but that others
might want, in the ROW and to mark them with a sign saying something like "Free." The text of
9.08.030.0.2 appears to classify all such items as nuisances, even if they are in the ROW for a limited time.
Personally I don't see the "Free" items custom as a nuisance, and hope the intent of the section is not to ban the
practice or to encourage people to call the City when a neighbor places a "Free" item in the ROW for a few days.
Perhaps you could consider an exception?
9.08.030.H.1: With the addition of "belonging to another person" section H, Exception 1 seems redundant. Indeed,
with the added wording it appears to explicitly permit firms to part signs on other people's vehicles. Maybe remove
H.19
David Ehnebuske
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Townsen
Agenda Bill: AB23-198
Meeting Date: July 17, 2023
Agenda Item: IX.A
® Regular Business Meeting
❑ Workshop/Study Session
❑ Special Business Meeting
Submitted By: Carrie Hite, Director of Parks Strategy Date Submitted: July 14, 2023
Departments: Administrative Contact Phone: 360-379-2979
SUBJECT: City Council presentation on the Envision Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons community discussion.
CATEGORY: BUDGET IMPACT: $
❑ Consent ❑ Resolution Expenditure Amount:
❑x Staff Report ❑ Ordinance Included in Budget? Yes ❑x No ❑
❑ Contract Approval ❑x Other:
❑ Public Hearing (Legislative, unless otherwise noted)
❑ 3 -Year Strategic Plan: N/A
Cost Allocation Fund: Choose an item,
.
SUMMARY STATEMENT:
In early 2020, the City Council gave direction to staff to pursue a two-pronged approach
to managing the golf course; issue an RFP and enter into a 3 -year operational
agreement and engage the community in discussion about alternative uses. The
Council was given a thorough presentation and discussed a trajectory for the golf
course both at the October 12 and November 2, 2020, Council meetings ( links
attached). The City Council was given options to consider for a possible path forward.
At November 2, 2020, meeting the Council unanimously voted to select option 3, with
some changes. The final option that was voted unanimously stated, " Authorize the City
Manager to pursue continued golf services for 3 years and during this time investigate
alternative use concepts for feasibility and develop/refine with the broad community
involvement, including the possibility for extended golf use." In addition, the City Council
authorized the issuance of a Request for Proposal and subsequently entered into an
agreement for operations with the Gabriel Tonan Golf Shop, Inc. for a term of three
years during which time the City would explore alternative uses for the Golf Course.
In addition, in 2020 the City conducted a public process to adopt a Parks, Recreation
and Open Space comprehensive planning element. PROS Plan community
engagement results showed limited use of the Port Townsend Golf Course and interest
in golf in general. Most vision survey respondents did not have an opinion on the
operation, investment, or use of the golf course. For those who did have an opinion,
most did not want to make capital investments, set a cost recovery policy, or explore
partnership options. For those with an opinion, most did not want the City to stop
operating the golf course, but others are supportive of exploring alternative options.
While the future and alternative uses of the golf course were not directly sought, ideas
and thoughts were nonetheless shared during the Vision and System Plan outreach
events. Comments included:
• Continuing to operate the golf course for golf.
• Allowing multiple recreational uses on the property (e.g. frisbee golf, foot golf) or other
active sports uses that could be accomplished while still having golf on certain days.
• Repurposing to more active sports and managing as a complex with Mountain View,
especially if active sports are not feasible on other properties like 35th street park.
• Converting it into a nature park.
• Surplusing it for non -park uses.
Based on the PROS plan results and City Council direction, staff proposed a community
process framework to launch a more robust community discussion about the Golf
Course and included Mountain View Commons. City Council approved the "Envision
Port Townsend Golf Course and Mountain View Commons" framework to launch a
community discussion in June 2022 ( link attached). The City Council was again briefed
on this plan and approved an award of bid for a landscape architect firm, Groundswell
LLC to assist with the exploration and community discussion for the Port Townsend Golf
Course and Mountain View Commons in September 2022 ( link attached).
Since this process has launched, staff has seated a 20 -member stakeholder committee,
conducted 11 stakeholder meetings, hosted a project launch on-site at the Golf Course
and Mountain View Commons ( comments attached), implemented two intercept events
at Quimper Mercantile and the Food Co-op and met various groups in town ( comments
attached), held three open houses, both in person and virtually, and has implemented
three online surveys. In addition, there is a webpage dedicated to this project with
evolving information, documents pertinent to the properties, the comment log,
recordings, agendas and minutes from the stakeholder meetings, comment cards,
distribution list sign up and comprehensive information about this process. This website
can be visited at
w.w..w .cii!YgfpjOenvlislion. This meeting and presentation is to give City
Council information to make an informed decision about the Envision process.
The Consultant team will be providing this briefing and it will include the following:
• Welcome
• Open House 3 and consensus building
• Stakeholder deliberation and final thoughts
• Financing
• Potential Phasing
• Summary
• PRTTAB Recommendation
• Recommendation and discussion
061
The Stakeholders started in September of 2022 with 21 members. We have had some
attrition over the ten months, and the following recommendation is representative of
thirteen stakeholders. The stakeholders are comprised of volunteer citizens who either
help to steward the land and buildings at Mountain View and the Golf Course or
represent the broader community. They have worked diligently to leave their interests
and/or " stake" behind when they engage in stakeholder meetings. They have been
asked to remain objective, listen to the broader community, and guide the planning
team with respect to listening to the community.
The stakeholders have had eleven 1.5 -hour meetings over the course of 10 months.
They have guided the process by creating selection criteria and holding this as their key
to moving forward. They have guided the planning process, asked for many questions
and material (all loaded up on the website), and have been good stewards for the future
of Port Townsend. They understand that the plan is conceptual, and know that the final
decision is for City Council.
The stakeholders had intended to bring forward one recommendation about the
end result to the City Council. That said, they represent a microcosm of our
community. They are divided on the trajectory of the golf course. In the last
meeting, we tried to find a win-win, and find some compromise, but the input was
eight in support of the hybrid option, four in support of the Central Park option,
and one person voicing interest in a modified hybrid that would have golf be an
element, i.e. Miniature Golf, putting green, and/or driving range, and create more
elements for the general public. This was of interest to eight stakeholders when
this was voiced near the end of the meeting. In addition, the stakeholders were in
support of some kind of housing element in the conceptual plan.
The City would like to thank the stakeholders for their time, commitment, and efforts
toward this important community conversation.
In addition to the stakeholders, the Parks, Recreation, Trees, Trails Advisory Board also
had a special meeting to make the following recommendation:
The PRTTAB recommends a hybrid plan that encourages the use of an alternative
driving range ( i.e. netting or virtual), that includes space for a dog park, and
eliminates the housing element that is currently in the vegetative space. There
was also an interest in the hybrid in the timing as well, sharing the space and
allowing citizens to have access to the trails when there is no golfing. The final
vote was 5 in favor one in opposition.
The City would also like to thank the PRTTAB for their recommendation on this very
important community discussion.
ATTACHMENTS:
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2022.
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CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION: N/A/
RECOMMENDED ACTION: City Council will receive the final recommendation on the
future decision of the Envision the Port Townsend Golf Course and Mountain View
Commons and be asked to make a decision.
ALTERNATIVES:
❑x Take No Action ❑x Refer to Committee
❑ Remove from Consent Agenda
approve Ordinance
❑ Other:
ill
❑x Refer to Staff ❑x Postpone Action
❑ Waive Council Rules and
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City CouincH Meeting July 17, 2023
GIROt )N[I)SWEL J1
Townsend
WELCOME
OPEN HOUSE #3 + CONSENSUS BUILDING
STAKEHOLDER DELIBERATION + FINAL THOUGHTS
FINANCING
POTENTIAL PHASING
SUMMARY
PRTTAB RECOMMENDATION
RECOMMENDATION + DISCUSSION
Pori: lownsend C: df COUrse and Mi. View Commons Concept Ranning IR tJN[" m EL...I1..
• PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE #3
• June 22, 2023 @ 5:00 p.m.
• Fort Worden Commons
• 103 Attendees
• ONLINE OPEN HOUSE #3
• June 26, 2023 @ 4:00 p.m.
• 38 Attendees
• ONLINE SURVEY
• 650 RESPONSES
Pori: lownsend C: df COUrse and Mi. View Commons Concept Ranning IR JN[" m EL...I1..
• Consensus Building
Come to consensus on a plan that serves the majority of Port
Townsend residents.
• Arrive at a recommendation for City Council
A final plan recommendation, for the future of the Port Townsend
Golf Course and Mt. View Commons Properties, will be presented
to City Council for approval on July 17th.
Pari: lownsend C: df COUrse and Mi. View Commons Concept Ranning IR tJN[" m EL...I1..
1. Inclusive and welcoming
• Accessible and safe
• Serve the greatest good for the most amount of people
2. Prioritize environmental stewardship
• Balance recreation with habitat protection and enhancement
• Advocate for a resilient and restorative landscape
3. Benefit community health and wellbeing
• Enhance recreation opportunities for a larger community demographic
• Align with the community health and wellness plan
4. Celebrate Port Townsend's history, community, and culture
5. Support connectivity, walkability and expanded site access
6. Meet infrastructure needs
7. Financially stable
8. Accommodate future community needs
• Forward thinking
• Functional versatility
Pari: lownsend C: O f COUrse and Mi. View Commons Concept Ranning IR tJN[I m EL...I1..
CONSIDERATIONS
PORT TOWNSEND GOLF COURSE RESPECTING THE
DESIGNED BY - PI R SQUARED Trailhead
A CONCEPT WITH GOLF AND NON -GOLF PUBLIC PROCESS.
FEATURES RETAINING 9 HOLES AND
DRIVING RANGE DECISION MAKING
CRITERIA.
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Y -Y DOG PARK
j
TRAIL SYSTEM.
0)` 1New
N
ALLOCATION OF
Trailhead
SPACE FOR PUBLIC
USE.
parking,
Driving Range
shortening of hole
Hosts 23 Seasonal
Concerts
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Community
Garden led Shorten Prairie
note Expansion
Re -order Putt Putt
Area
Course
Pari: lownsend (30ff COUrse and Mi. View Commons Concept Nanning G�RiOt JN[")SWEL J1
• ONLINE SURVEY #3
• 650 RESPONSES
4. Please select your level of support for the following two
concepts to be presented to City Council:
Central Park
Hybrid Golf Course
Supportive Not Supportive Neutral
• STAKEHOLDER POLL RESULTS
• 13 RESPONSES
4. Please select which option you support for City Council
adoption:
1. Hybrid Golf Course
� 2 Central Park
3. None of the Above
• Our final Stakeholder discussion noted eight (8) Stakeholders prefer the
Hybrid Scheme and four (4) Stakeholders prefer Central Park. One (1)
Stakeholder voiced interest in a modified Hybrid or Central Park Concept
with a golf component.
• Eight (8) Stakeholders were in support of a modified Central Park/Hybrid
Concept with a golf component.
• Stakeholders were in support of some affordable housing component in the
conceptual plan.
Port Townsend Golf Course I Mt. View Commons
July 5, 2023
0 U 1 D SM S v II --1L.,
CENTRAL
YEAR
PARK - PHASE 1 (YEARS 1 - 10)
ITEM
GRANT REQUEST
CITY MATCH (35%)
TOTAL
2024
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$350,000.00
$122,500.00
$472,500.00
2026
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$350,000.00
$122,500.00
$472,500.00
2028
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$350,000.00
$122,500.00
$472,500.00
2030
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$350,000.00
$122,500.00
$472,500.00
2032
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$350,000.00
$122,500.00
$472,500.00
PHASE 1 SUB TOTAL $1,750,000.00
$612,500.00
$2,362,500.00
CENTRAL
YEAR
PARK - PHASE 2 (YEARS 11 19)
ITEM
GRANT REQUEST
CITY MATCH (35%)
TOTAL
2034
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$428,000.00
$149,800.00
$577,800.00
2036
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$428,000.00
$149,800.00
$577,800.00
2038
1 RCO GRANT REQUEST
$428,000.001
$149,800.00
$577,800.00
2040
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$428,000.001
$149,800.00
$577,800.00
2042
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$428,000.001
$149,800.00
$577,800.00
PHASE 2 SUB TOTAL $2,140,000.001
$749,000.00
$2,889,000.00
TOTAL $3,890,000.00 $1,361,500 $5,251,500.00
Port Townsend Golf Course I Mt. View Commons
July 5, 2023
HYBRID
YEAR
GOLF COURSE
ITEM
GRANT REQUEST
CITY MATCH (35%)
TOTAL
2032
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$440,000.00
$154,000.00
$594,000.00
2034
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$450,000.00
$157,500.00
$607,500.00
2036
IRCO GRANT REQUEST
$450,000.001
157,500.00
$607,500.00
2038
IRCO GRANT REQUEST
$450,000.001
$157,500.001
$607,500.00
PHASE 2 SUB TOTALI $1,790,000.001
$626,500.00
$2,416,500.00
TOTAL $3,265,000.00 $1,142,750 $4,407,750.00
Central Park -19 yr. plan Hybrid Golf Course -15 yr. plan
TOTAL GRANT REQUEST: $3,890,000.00 TOTAL GRANT REQUEST: $3,265,000.00
CITY MATCH: $1,361,500.00 CITY MATCH: $1,142,750.00
TOTAL PROJECT COST.- , 5,251,544.00 w....... f TOTAL PROjEtT ' T: , 40,407,75040 ..,...w.
R.O.M. OPERATIONAL COSTS: $901</YR. R.O.M. OPERATIONAL COSTS: $601</YR.
• Cost in 2023 dollars.
• Costs do not include Sales Tax, Testing, Engineering, Design, Construction
Management or Permitting.
PHASE 1 (YEAR 1-10):
• BIKE AND PED. TRAILS
• COMMUNITY GARDEN
• ROAD/PARKING LOT
• BIRD BLIND
PHASE 2 (YEAR 11-21):
• AMPHITHEATER
• COMMUNITY SPACE (RFP)
• NATURE PLAY
• DOG PARK
• DISC GOLF + MINI GOLF (RFP)
• HOUSING
• MT. VIEW:
•
PICKLEBALL + SPLASH PAD
• REBUILD POOL+ PARKING
PHASE 1 (YEAR 1-5):
• RELOCATE HOLES 5+6
• DOG PARK
• PUBLIC TRAILS + CART PATHS
• ROAD + PARKING
PHASE 2 (YEAR 6-11):
• BIRD BLIND
• HOUSING
• COMMUNITY GARDEN
• MT. VIEW:
• PICKLEBALL+SPLASH PAD
• REBUILD POOL+ PARKING
• DISC GOLF, FUTSOL, MINI GOLF
• In early 2020, a community
engagement process, following
the development of the PROS plan,
showed that the community desires
to explore different uses for the golf
course property owned by the City.
• In November 2020, Council
unanimously directed staff to engage
the community to explore the
feasibility of alternate uses, including
continued use for golf.
• Given the proximity of the Mountain
View Campus, it is the City's interest
to explore complementary uses and
plan for this site as well.
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• PURPOSE: ASSESS THE NGF REPORT FROM A LOCAL LENS
• TAKEAWAYS:
• AGING INFRASTRUCTURE (COURSE, CLUBHOUSE, IRR., ETC.)
• DEMAND MAY NEVER BE SUFFICIENT TO SUSTAIN
• LACK OF MANAGEMENT/MARKETING TO SUSTAIN OPERATIONS
• LACK OF FINANCIAL REPORTING
• NGF STUDY - MERITS:
• ACCURATE DEPICTION OF THE GOLF COURSE CONDITIONS +
CHALLENGES
• SALES AND MARKETING RECOMMENDATIONS
• NGF STUDY - SHORTCOMINGS:
• $1M INVESTMENT IS NOT REALISTIC
• HIRING A GOLF PRO DOES NOT SUPPORT FINANCIAL GOALS
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"Changing the golf course into a par 3 golf course would have a significant impact to
the golf operations. I called Battle Creek golf course north of Everett as they have both
an 18 hole and a par 3 course. The par 3 course does about 25% of the rounds the 18
hole course does and the green fee is 25% of the 18 hole rate. So the impact to revenue
would be substantial. In addition, the cost to convert to a smaller par 3 would require
basically rebuilding the golf course. The greens would have to be moved, they would
be made smaller, with new irrigation and new tee boxes. It would be used more by
non -golfers so the positive would be that kids and first time golfers would most likely
increase. The golf shop merchandise would probably disappear as the need for clubs,
shoes, etc. would be eliminated."
-DAVID HEIN, GOLF COURSE CONSULTANT
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GOLF COURSE PRIORITIES:
1. Walking/Biking Trails
2. Habitat Restoration
3. Renovated Golf Course
4. Nature Play
5. Community Garden
6. Wetland Boardwalk
7. Outdoor Performance Space
8. Affordable Housing
9. Kah Tai Prarie
10. Miniature Golf / Putt Putt
11. Picnic Areas
12. Disc Golf
13. Educational Center
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MT. VIEW PRIORITIES:
1. Pool
2. Education / Comm. Ctr.
3. Renovated Playground
4. Renovated Pickleball
5. Renovated Dog Park
6. Affordable Housing
7. Splash Pad / Water Feature
8. Plaza
9. Art
10. Festival Street
11. Farmer's Market
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2. Do you support exploring alternative uses for the Port
Townsend Golf Course property?
� 1. Yes -a3%
2. Hybrid - 31
3. No -23%
4. Undecided -3%
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STUDENTS:
1. Affordable Housing
2. Miniature Golf
3. Walking/Biking Trails
4. Sport Fields
5. Boardwalk
6. Climbing Wall
7. Event Space
8. Community Garden
9. Habitat
10. Multi Use Lawn
11. Kah Tai Prairie
12. Disc Golf
OPEN HOUSES:
1. Walking Biking Trails
2. Habitat Restoration
3. Nature Play
4. Wetland Boardwalk
5. Renovated Pool Facility
VS. 6. Golf Course
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7. Community Garden
8. Event / Performance Space
9. Affordable Housing
10. Picnic Areas
11. Education Center
12. Miniature Golf/Putt Putt
13. Climbing Wall
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1. CONCEPT 3 - CENTRAL PARK
2. CONCEPTI - RESTORED GOLF COURSE
3. CONCEPT 2 -HYBRID GOLF COURSE
Q. CONCEPT 2A -SPACE FOR NATURE
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• SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY
NEED FOR LOW INCOME +
AFFORDABLE HOUSING
• R -II: MEDIUM DENSITY
HOUSING ZONE (EIGHT
UNITS PER 40,000 S.F.)
• SOME WANT HOUSING.
SOME DO NOT.
• SCOPE DID NOT INCLUDE:
• HOUSING ANALYSIS
• HOUSING DIRECTIVE
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Following is the recommendation from the Parks, Recreation, Trees and Trails Advisory
Board:
The motion is to recommend a hybrid plan that encourages the use of an alternative
driving range (i.e. netting or virtual), that includes space for a dog park and eliminates
the housing element that is currently in the vegetative space. There was also an
interest in the hybrid in the timing as well, sharing the space and allowing citizens to
have access to the trails when there is no golfing.
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INTRODUCTION.............................................................................................................................................. 3
PROJECT BACKGROUND AND DETAILS..........................................................................................................3
ProjectScope.........................................................................................................................................................3
CommunityOutreach..........................................................................................................................................3
PROJECTAREA............................................................................................................................................................4
STAKEHOLDERS..........................................................................................................................................................4
MILESTONES...............................................................................................................................................................4
METHODS....................................................................................................................................................... 6
MESSAGES...................................................................................................................................................................6
TIMING, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SCHEDULE.................................................................................. 7-10
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ENVISIONING THE PORT TOWNSEND GOLF COURSE
May 2022
The Port Townsend Municipal Golf Course was developed in 1904 and includes a regulation -length 9 -
hole course, driving range, maintenance buildings, and clubhouse with a commercial kitchen for
restaurant services, and retail sales. The golf course, once privately owned and operated, was converted
to a public course in 1927 and first administered by Jefferson County but is now owned and operated by
the City of Port Townsend. The city leases the golf course to a local business for management and
operations. When converted to a public course, there were deed restrictions on the property. There is
a deed restriction that the largest parcel will be used for municipal purposes only.
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Project Scope
Port Townsend Golf Club is an aging golf facility located in a small market with a mix of marketable
amenities. The most recent study of the golf course was implemented in 2018 by the National Golf
Foundation (NGF). The NGF completed the study of the viability of the PTGC and found that the facility is
challenged by its declining physical condition and somewhat remote location which limits its potential
market support. NGF has estimated that it would cost $935,000 - $1.2M to bring it up to standard to
attract more visits and become a viable golf course. The upgrades would include improvements to the
irrigation system and pump house, tree and stump removal, purchase of appropriate maintenance
equipment, clubhouse repair, and course repair. Based on this analysis, the City Council decided not to
pursue the recommendation because of the cost for both the capital and operations. They did authorize
the issuance of a Request for Proposal and subsequently entered into an agreement for operations with
the Gabriel Tonan group for a term of three years during which time the City would explore alternative
uses for the Golf Course. The framework included in this document is for the subsequent community
discussion to explore the long-term vision for the Golf Course. This community engagement plan
includes securing a landscape architect to assist with concept planning alternative uses. It also includes
creating a community stakeholder group and launching four phases of community engagement to
envision the golf course. There is an option in phases 3-4 to expand this engagement process to include
the Mountain View campus, as it may include complementary uses.
Previous Community Outreach
The city sought community feedback about the golf course during the Park, Recreation, and Open Space
plan update. PROS Plan community engagement results showed limited use of the Port Townsend Golf
Course and interest in golf in general. Most vision survey respondents did not have an opinion on the
operation, investment, or use of the golf course. For those who did have an opinion, most did not want
to make capital investments, set a cost recovery policy, or explore partnership options. For those with
an opinion, some did not want the city to stop operating the golf course, but others were supportive of
exploring alternative options. In addition to the PROS planning process, staff launched a survey to begin
a community engagement process in September 2020. This feedback led to multiple options for the
Council to consider. In November 2020, Council unanimously directed staff to enter into a golf
operations agreement with a vendor for 3 years, during which time staff would engage the community
to explore the feasibility of alternate uses, including continued use for golf. This planned community
discussion should take into consideration the long-term goals of all of the City's Parks and Recreation
assets, the proximity of the Mountain View Campus, and the Mountain View Pool, and the need for a
long-term financial sustainability plan.
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May 2022
PROJECI AREA
The options being considered will be limited to the golf course site, including the parking lot, pathways,
trails, and clubhouse as depicted on the map (Exhibit 1). A small area within Port Townsend Golf
Course, called the Kah Tai Prairie is 1.4 acres and is located in the southeast area of the golf course. The
prairie has been the focus of preservation and restoration by the Olympic Chapter of the Washington
Native Plant Society since it was recognized as a unique botanical site in 1986. The Kah Tai Prairie is
located within the Port Townsend Golf Course and is open to the public to enjoy. The city has an interest
in master planning the Mountain View Campus (Exhibit 2) as part of Phase 3 of the community visioning
plan. The Mountain View Campus is adjacent to the Golf Course and could have some complementary
uses as part of the larger discussion.
Exhibit 1: Port Townsend Golf Couse. Operated by
Gabriel Tonan Golf Shop, Inc. Also includes a
management agreement for the Kah Tai Prairie.
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Exhibit 2: Mountainview Campus: includes KPTZ,
Food Bank, Red Cross, Working Image, Parks and
Recreation office, IT, Police Station and YMCA (
operating the pool/gym, some outdoor area). Also
includes Dog Park and Pickleball courts.
The city will recruit and seat a stakeholders committee to help guide the process of
public engagement. A more detailed list of stakeholder members, including contact
information, will be developed as the project moves forward.
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May 2022
External:
• Tenants of Mountain View
• YMCA
• Golf Club
• Stewards of the prairie
• Park Board
• Arts Commission
• Teens from local HS.
• School District
• County
• Hospital District
• Housing
Internal:
• City Manager
• Park Board representative
• City Staff
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Task Type
RFP and award of bid for Landscape Administrative
Architect contractor: RFP, budget,
selection/compile stakeholder
End Date Owner
6-8/2022 PT
group
Phase 1 Community Outreach--------
Focus Groups
7/22-9/22
PT
Develop key criteria/principles
Phase 2 Public Outreach
Public Involvement
9/2022
PT, Contractor
Community Vision/Concept Ideas
Evaluate Data, Develop Concept
Conceptual Design
10/2022
PT, Contractor
options to share with the
Community
Phase 3 Public Outreach (Evaluate
Public Involvement
11/2022
Team
Concepts/Options) Gather
feedback
Evaluate Data, refine the approach
Conceptual Design
12/2022
Team
Concept draft (s)
Final Recommendation: Final draft Public Involvement 2/23 Team
with a phased approach, transition
plan, costing, and decision making.
Final Recommendation City Council City Council 3/23 Team
Study Session
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May 2022
The project manager will use the following methods to ensure all stakeholders are reached,
informed, and engaged.
KEY MESSAGES
Currently, most expenses associated with the management of the golf course reside with the
leaseholder as a part of their business operations. A large part of the maintenance is performed by
volunteers. The City still retains responsibility for all capital needs, building maintenance and irrigation
repairs to main lines (^'$8,000/year), and irrigation water costs (^'$15,000/year). In addition, the
irrigation system would need to be replaced. This is part of the recommended capital improvement
costs. The City does not have a source of funding to pay for the capital improvement needs ($935,000-
$1.2M) identified in the most recent analysis. It is not financially sustainable for the City to continue to
subsidize the golf course. In addition to the financial implications, it is often a best practice to explore
the highest and best use of the land. It poses an opportunity cost if there are alternative uses that may
better serve the wider community. If alternative uses are explored, the capital and operational costs of
any alternate uses need to be considered as well.
The study, a Business Analysis of the Port Townsend Golf Club, was completed in 2019 and showed that
the course would need "considerable investment in improvements and modernization" for its
continuance as a golf course into the future.
PROS Plan community engagement results showed limited use of the Port Townsend Golf Course and
interest in golf in general. Most vision survey respondents do not have an opinion on the operation,
investment, or use of the golf course. For those who do have an opinion, most do not want to make
capital investments, set a cost recovery policy, or explore partnership options. For those with an
opinion, most do not want the City to stop operating the golf course, but others are supportive of
exploring alternative options.
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May 2022
❑
Create web content
❑
Flyer
❑
Task Force
with an updated
❑
Fact Sheet/Brochure
❑
Established Meetings
process.
❑
Ads
❑
Board/Commissions
❑
eNews or designed
❑
PT Leader
❑
Interest Groups
email
❑
Radio show
❑
Intercept events
❑
Social Media
❑
Direct Mail
❑
Stakeholders
❑
Video/Photography
❑
Signage/Posters
❑
Event/Promotion
❑
Poll or survey
❑
Hard copy survey
❑
Open House
❑
Media Release
❑
In-person
❑
poll/survey
❑
KPTZ Calendar
❑
Online Questionnaire
❑
Public Meetings
❑
Farmers Market
KEY MESSAGES
Currently, most expenses associated with the management of the golf course reside with the
leaseholder as a part of their business operations. A large part of the maintenance is performed by
volunteers. The City still retains responsibility for all capital needs, building maintenance and irrigation
repairs to main lines (^'$8,000/year), and irrigation water costs (^'$15,000/year). In addition, the
irrigation system would need to be replaced. This is part of the recommended capital improvement
costs. The City does not have a source of funding to pay for the capital improvement needs ($935,000-
$1.2M) identified in the most recent analysis. It is not financially sustainable for the City to continue to
subsidize the golf course. In addition to the financial implications, it is often a best practice to explore
the highest and best use of the land. It poses an opportunity cost if there are alternative uses that may
better serve the wider community. If alternative uses are explored, the capital and operational costs of
any alternate uses need to be considered as well.
The study, a Business Analysis of the Port Townsend Golf Club, was completed in 2019 and showed that
the course would need "considerable investment in improvements and modernization" for its
continuance as a golf course into the future.
PROS Plan community engagement results showed limited use of the Port Townsend Golf Course and
interest in golf in general. Most vision survey respondents do not have an opinion on the operation,
investment, or use of the golf course. For those who do have an opinion, most do not want to make
capital investments, set a cost recovery policy, or explore partnership options. For those with an
opinion, most do not want the City to stop operating the golf course, but others are supportive of
exploring alternative options.
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ENVISIONING THE PORT TOWNSEND GOLF COURSE
May 2022
The City signed a lease for the operations of the course until December 2023. At the time the City
decided to sign an operational lease through 2023, the City also identified a need to consider whether it
should make additional investments in the golf course or identify alternative uses.
Port Townsend Golf Club is an aging golf facility located in a small market with a mix of marketable
amenities. The NGF completed a study of the viability of the PTGC and found that the facility is
challenged by its declining physical condition and somewhat remote location which limits its potential
market support.
As such, the City faces a challenge in continuing to operate the PTGC, and it is only with new investment
and a change in operating structure can this golf facility become a sustainable amenity for the City. In
summary, NGF believes that the City can improve the operational condition and economic performance
of the Port Townsend Golf Club through action on the following NGF recommendations:
1. Make a new investment in the PTGC facility, focusing on improving the condition of the golf course
and clubhouse (estimated cost of $1.2 million+).
2. Change the operating structure by not renewing the operator lease and committing to a form of City
self -operation (possibly with an F&B concession).
3. Hire the appropriate senior staff to manage and maintain the facility, including a PGA (or LPGA)
designation for operations oversight and a GCSAA designation for golf course maintenance oversight.
4. Improve the marketing of PTGC, especially in technology, improved website, email program, and
direct initiatives with Port Townsend lodging establishments.
5. Commit to a new focus on attracting less -traditional segments into golf (women, kids, minorities, etc.)
through enhanced player development programming.
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May 2022
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Role of the stakeholders:
• Regular meeting attendance: stakeholder meetings and public meetings.
• Listening to what you hear from the community and representing the desire of the wider
community in this stakeholder group.
• Guiding project team (not decision making)
• Sharing your ideas with the Project team and city
• Presenting with the project team at Parks Board and City Council meetings
• Be a facilitator for break-out groups at larger meetings.
• Lead intercept events as needed.
Goals of Phase 1 Community Engagement:
• Review of PROS plan, Community Strategic plan
• Facilitate focus/interest groups to develop key criteria/principles to guide the community
discussion.
• Align the key criteria/principles with previous planning efforts, and community discussions.
Goals of Phase 2 Community Engagement:
• Review the golf course's current status and a most recent study
• Start the visioning process of what it could be.
• Pros/Cons of the golf course or repurposing
• Solicit feedback on a vision
• LA starts to draft concepts.
Goals of Phase 3 Community Engagement:
• Reflect on 2-3 Concept plans by LA
• Interactive process, what does the community like, what do they not like.
• Public input to guide final designs and decide on the golf course.
Goals of Final Recommendation Community Engagement:
• Gather feedback on concept plan (s)
• Cost out the concept plan
• Align with Mountain View Campus launch of the master plan
• Take recommendation to Council
Phase 1 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT June — Auqust 2022
Date
Task
Meetings
Status
July- September
Stakeholder recruitment and kick-off
2-3
2022
Outreach: press release, radio show, market,
distribution announcement, online
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May 2022
PHASE 2 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT September — November 2022
Date
questionnaire, web presence, social media
push. Schools, community groups
Meetings
Status
September 2022
Hold focus groups to identify key principles
to frame the planning process.
4-5
November 2022
Stakeholder review of data and provide
guidance
1-2
Brief Parks and Trails Commission
1
Brief City Council
1
PHASE 2 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT September — November 2022
Date
Task
Meetings
Status
September 2022
Stakeholder preparation
1-2
November 2022
Plan for the first phase of public
1-2
enciaciement
1
Outreach: press release, radio show, market,
distribution announcement, online
questionnaire, web presence, social media
push. Schools, community groups
Public open house #1, virtual open house,
1 in-person, 1
online survey.
virtual
Stakeholder review of data and provide
1-2
guidance
1
Brief Parks and Trails Commission
1
Brief City Council
1
PHASE 3 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT: January— March 2023
Date
Task
Meetings
Status
October -
Stakeholder meeting kickoff of Phase 3
1
November 2022
Stakeholders: Plan for second public
1
enciaciement
Outreach: press release, radio show,
market, distribution announcement, online
questionnaire, web presence, social media
push. Schools, Community Groups
Public Open House #2,
1 in-person, 1
virtual
Stakeholders: review input and provide
1
guidance
Meeting: Parks Board/City Council Study
2
Session Update
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May 2022
FINAL RECOMMENDATION & DECISION MAKING: April - May 2023
Date
Task
Meetings
Status
January -March
Stakeholders
1-2
2023
Outreach: press release, radio show,
market, distribution announcement, online
questionnaire, web presence, social media
push. Schools, Community Groups
Public Open House #3
Stakeholders review input and final
1-2
concepts, provide guidance
Briefing Parks Board
1
City Council briefing and
2-3
discussion/decision
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To: Stakeholders
Topic: Public Project Launch
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Date: 10/25/2022
Location: Golf Course/ Mt. View Project: PT Golf Course/Mt. View Time: 2:00-4:00 pm
Commons Concept Planning Effort
Port Townsend Golf Course and Mt. View Commons Project Launch and Meet & Greet
The purpose of the meeting is to officially kick off the project with the public and to provide community
members an opportunity to meet city staff and the design team. The following project team members
will be in attendance:
Carrie Hite - Director of Parks and Recreation Strategy, City of Port Townsend
Chris Jones - Landscape Architect and Principal, Groundswell Studio
Rebecca Melvin - Landscape Architect and Project Manager, Groundswell Studio
Kristin Anderson - Public outreach consultant and Senior Associate, Stepherson & Associates Communications
David Hein - Golf course consultant and Vice President, Oki Golf Management
The role of city staff, design team members and stakeholders at the project launch is to answer
questions about the project, hand out comment cards, and let people know how they can get involved.
We anticipate there will be several commonly asked questions that we have provided suggested
answers for below. If you don't know the answer to a community members question, feel free to direct
them to talk to Carrie, Chris or Rebecca.
Is the golf course going away?
A: The future of the golf course property has not been decided yet. A variety of considerations
will guide the final recommendation for the future of the golf course (for example, cost,
technical feasibility, equity, accessibility, and community input). David Hein, the golf course
consultant supporting the design team, will conduct an independent analysis of current golf
course function and financial viability. Part of that analysis will include reviewing and
considering a 2019 study of the golf course conducted by the National Golf Foundation.
Will the golf course property be used for housing?
A: We are starting the discussion of the future of the site as a blank slate. We have received
much initial interest indicating a desire for the golf course property to be public open space.
Many citizens have voiced concern that as it is today, the golf course isn't considered public
open space as only golfers can use it. There has been an interest in housing, but more of an
interest in leaving it either a golf course or park land.
How can 1 get involved?
Www.citvofpt/envision: Read about the process, leave a comment, read a comment log, sign up
for the distribution list.
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Parks and Trails Advisory Board and City Council: Upcoming meetings, speak during public
comment.
Stakeholders Committee Meetings: Either log on or attend in person to watch the process,
members of the public are welcome to listen in.
Upcoming Public Open Houses: Keep your eyes open, as they will be here soon!
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July 5th Peter Wert email to .have one spec.`, suggestion about the golf courre at this time. l hope to get a n opportunity to Thanks for your response. We will consider there In the planning process.
council engage with others when the pubii,ISl--to participate. l think your key role as city leaders,
T n this process is to ensure that rt,-gand healthy prfn,iples are established before people rtart
debatingthe details. have. sugh"_I, for three p—,iples to —,,d-
1. The prop erty currently cont. fining the golf course moat remain oP en.P ce for all time.
This means thinking long term —very long term. It means - housing, no new buildings, no new
roads, no new permanent rtructures. There are many ways hi, hsproperty an remain open
space and bene`tthe cltlzensof ourtown—bdudbg, butnotnmibd to golf
. fend ithelp"I to
ask myself "whatwlll the dtlze,, of Port Townsend 150 years from now be very gateful that
we did with the golf co.. el" Personally, I think they will be glad— kept it open space. The
golf courre property may one day be the "Central Park" of Port Townsend when the dry has
grown to levels that we, today, — hardly Imagine. And.IHough, as we ail know, we
despeately need mare affordable housingthe 59 acres of the golf—property Is the
wrong place. W e have hundreds of acres of bondable land all over the place—Including upd—
en. We have hundreds of acres of city awned, ,oumy awned, state awned, pmately awned
land far buiid.n g.
2. The property currently containing the golf course moat contribute to mitigating climate
change. This might mean mare trees, different kinds of trees, other ways to sequerter arbon.
eut as city leaders you absolutely must take a bald and pubilc stand tar m.ngating climate
change— notso much for who tc..T b't - 59 acres can make (It Is not— gnifi—t) but more
the leadership and -p-t— It —show to aii of us since twill be visible and will likely
engage many of us if not mart of us.
3. The property currently containing the golf course moat increase diversity Incand
rt wnsen
incluaivenesa. PoTod Is ane of the least diverse and least lusive cum m unities
anywhere. Currently Port Td— ... d Is like lam e kind of 55 h -aver retirement cum —ty
made up mostly of white (Increasingly wealthy) democats. Nan -white people are welcome to
sit here but usually as music faculty tar C -t— or same otherartrtic/cuituai v.siht—
Young people are—I—e b work here but not m live here —u,I e,, they are helped
`normally by parents. So, what I—g,-t,- could be brought to bear- the golf course to help
13 JO 22 St W.ff email I already submitted a --t b the En gage PT em Id,,gagept®cityofptus) expressing my Thanks for your cum -ts.We Mi -,,d,, Mese points m Me planning process.
ws. The golf course and commons are a great PT resource and this .sari opportunity forvision
and progress. I support conversion of Me golf course b a natuai area with —i kingand bike
paths, h.ghi.ghtingand expanding native local PN W e,osyrtems, Including Kah - Paineabove
and h.rtorfai marshes m the lowlands. Hopefully there would be Interpretive linage about thore
uairy—, hdh.rtorfai tribal use. Ialso am concerned a bout PTs lack of affordable
housinga,dwould like to see part of future plans for the golf courre and commons
modate affordable housing. I support recreational opportunities like the pickle ball court,
and dog pari:. W e take aur dog to the pari: dally and aur daughterand friends swim m Me pool. I
do notsupport eMension of the golf course Into the future, due b env.ronmentai Impacts,
limited Interert, and cart. Far context, my family lives a few blocks from the commons, and I
regularly walk or bike with my daughter- her way b school, eut we do not go Into the golf
course, because except for pain, watching, It doer not welcome nongoifers.
17 JO 22 tandin,bring lam w,,tingtb offerinput. Me PT golf-- Whatever courre the city council decides,I Thanks foryour cum merits. We will c-,,derMese points In Me planning process.
rongiy e..ouage keepingp ih, access to a ii the land, such that the land Is open b the publi,
.
m openbIdeas haw pubilc access bert`t, with the Mountain View,o—tycenter. Ism
rtron giy opposed to developing the land for residential use, low Income or mari:et ate.
3—g-22 Todd Mi,b..sh.p ,mall The golf course lm't broken-it'sn.c,IJ-'t golf but l enjoy the open space. Thanks fur your --t, We will consider Mese points In Me planning process.
5-seo-22 Walter Vaux letter To. the Mayor and Qty Council of Port Townsend Thankyou foryourietter,Waiter. I hope Matyou will remain engaged in the community process around the
subject Potential Closure of the Port Town send Goif Courre future of the golf course. Thank you agarol
Fm of ail, am nota golfer, but I a m concerned about aur ever -1 king open spaceonce open
space,, losI It probably won't be open space ever again.
You have heard ail the arguments for retaining the golf course. My concern ie that it will be
developed foraitemative uses. Alternative uses often include paving, buildings and parking lots.
If the golf course were developed, acres of open space would be lost forever.
I grew up In Seattle In the30,'40, -d 50, Itwa, a livable c,t, then. I was well aware of the
"Greater Seattle"movement Seattle embarked ono program of non -s trop development Look at
seattie novel
Development,, add, tve. Ler,.otdevelop the P- Tow .... d Golf Coors.. keep t,. t, -tool
state for future geneations.
6-seo-22 George Bush Pubilc tart epnng Ken Hite wa s hired to developa comprehensvve unbiased assessment of Qty land that Presentation at Council, noting there isno pre-0etermined outcome. Thanks for your corn mems, yourinput will
comment includes the golf course. However, as we ail read in the PDN, she was given instructions by the be consvdered.
Qty Managerto "repurpose' the golf,
olf courre. so ended any passibility of an unb,—d
assessment, and puts into question the utility of the final conclusions and recommendations.
A few weeks later I received an email from Mayor Faber that added t, the skepticism. It read, in
part, "I do anticipate the result of Mie (study) will be Me end of Me .If course fora hast of
sore an
."Ail this befy public input.
Fortunately the decision on Me future of Mat --N, ill year aid golf course and Me last
large, treed open space so near town ie not up to Me Mayor or Qty Manager -it is in the hands of
the Council who I hope remain open minded.
Please, hil
Council members, consider haw your cdren will and gandchiidren look back at y—
'_,_
. W iii they applaud your decision m retain that space for Mem, or will they curse your
choice to succumb t. a short term monitory gain Mrough development that sacrificed the open
space and the golf courre. Your legacy will largely be determined by that decision.
Please also consider the dozens of Councils dating back to 1905 who pushed aside numerous
empte toollow development of Me course. They had Me vision, and the knowledge of rte
mportance to the community, and the couage to stand up to pressures of development minded
schemers who d -I understand the aesthetic and functional value of the open space and Me
golf caurre.
My question to you ie -do you have that —,vision, undemanding, and, especially, the couag,
to tallow their lead W retain that beautiful spa,,2
13 -Jun -22 Virginia Adams letter My nate,, Virginia Adams a rid l reside in Portiown... d, WA Thanks for your com mems.Yourinput will be considered as part of the planning proress
1.Though am nota golfer, plan to team Me Same a rid add t t, my physical exercise regimen.
t s affordable, easily accessible loation and piety of mentoaand coachesare available to teach
Oflam in Me baby boomer ategory and ifs nevertoo late to leamanew sport.
21 have many friends who live in the area and use the golf course on a"''
basis and my out-
of-town relatives who visit Port Townsend and are avid golfers. tart year, we held a family
reunion at rt
FaW Orden and the golfers played a toting round of golf at the city course.
3. W haus the PRDS Pian Community Engagement Pian results mentioned in the agenda/memo as
re... t'? Pi—, give the dates it was conducted.
4. My brotherynaaw, Jame. Connolly (509 9 5 1 027 0) i. a Nattonai Golf A ---member,
mall business owner of Pianet surf and has pani.ed as a consultant to many golf courses
throughout Me US and in WA State. He told me that golf course use and revenues have gone
"through the roof' since Me beginning of Me pandemic in Spring of 2020. 1 believe that another
study needsWbe completed or the 2018 Na —1 Goif Foundation needs an update. Far
n addendum that shared tends and future far Soil courses in 9--1 and reports on
what the data shows for PF Goif Course on the —g' _d
revenue in the part two years.
7111-22 Henry Amick tetter In i:short, tyvision for these two properties i. to unite them— one, gorgeous, th-i ,, cetai Thanks for your com mets. Yourinput will be considered as part of the planning process.
7 par, with Blaine cio11d between the two properties. Keep a full9 hale go1f.our11, but realign it
modate walking rot e......crossing the property, using housing for this resource
would spend an unrenewabie ---
8—Aliso Wei.h Phone CO PI-1consider.limate and energy justice, trial justice. Thank. foryour.omment. Yourinput will be.on.id...d as part of the planning process.
9 14Apr-22-Ha tetter -0 tettHighlightingaii the volunteer iaborat Me-- Thank you for your........
10 28 -Jun -22 Mi.haei Todd Nates Con,,d,,—ik,,,b,kmgtraii., open I—, a, natual a, it a n be. More amenities for youth. Thank you for yourinput.
28 -Jun -22 David Longum 360.809- You probably can't"""' .a golf course. Intererted in open space, open for people. ISmit g.ff Thank.foryour.omtent.. Yourinput will be con,id...d as part of the planning process.
11 0465 3A day./wk, 2x week walking tails, ix week moto..zed golf arts Chargea nominal sum or
larger sum for the art rentals. Keep -1-
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erta12Se 22 Sander Stowell Fngag— Where can individuals provide input a rid suggernon.for betteruses for the property that is now Tho nk you for yourcomments. We will be sure to ure these in ourpIa nningeff-,,
leased as a golf cour11�
There are many passible uses for this city property that would serve many mare resident, than
the current ure.
The goif.ourse i, dIdy under 1111, and provides little value W mart Port Townsend area
resident.. While we may appreciate the trees and the green space in the center of our town, we
n allowed on the property accept on the dmeway during the time. there have been a
funrnonai cafe. And part food business have never provided food or —b,—, to d—
,.II
would love m ... mart of Mi, property remain as green space, but space that welcomes ail
12 —d-t,a rid vi a—, notjurt the few who play golf The golf cour11 at Discovery Bay is a better
fa nifty tar mart golf enthusiast..
I think Me City property may be large enough to serve multiple purpose.. It would be .—I-Vto have a mode. but beer ut,I performing a rt. center where here, perhaps where the current
buildings and p-mgarea i.. Ideally Mi. could have a only mode,[ adjacent p-mgarea, with
s eIthe pa rising along 19th and... , over on the M —t—View ampu.. This would leave
—h of the property ala pari: with tees and walking paths. The pond area could be rermred
with native vegetation, with limited access provided by ailed boardwalks; this would protect
wiidirfe while providing better view, of the pond.
would love m see a small cluster of affordable cottage homes or duplexes at the comer of San
Juan and 19th, perhaps developed by Habitat tar Humanity with covenants that would maintain
affordability on—Or this could be a modest rent controlled apartment complex.
9/14/2022 Terry Gifford 503-330- Sign about" save our golf coupe'". We definitely need to keep green space. Diderand srs that
0737 have been g.ffing, im portant personal connection.let s keep part of the golf, and add other
am enure, for others. Minimal additional housing along Blaine, partner with habitat. Mixed use
9/15/2022 Fred Weinmann, PH D email In your delib--.,regard the future of the golf course, l wonder If you are consvdering the
--1 hirtory features/values/importance of the course. There is same liteature, and have
persvnai experience, to suggert that golf courses are often important natuai hirtory areas.
While mart of the pubilshed research and liteature i, from other parts of the US, seveai
geographic region,are represented angingirom muth—t deserts m the sutra -apical ,outh—t
of Florida. The mixture of waterfeature,, edge habitats, and open areas `—,de-
-
rovide an
xceilent diversity of habitats, especially tar birds. This i, particularly important in urban and
urbanized areas For example, the Camationgolf course outside Seattle 11 well know
dertination forthe Eart lake W ashingmn Audubon Society. The Port Townsend golf course has
xceilent habitat features. I have recorded 70 species of birds at the PT Gait Course,
without maIi ny special effort, jun noting different birds as I played a round of golf Gait
re often better wiidirfe habitat than places like city pari:, because there i, less human
disturbanceers . Golfdonut venture lam"nacual"areas unless lookingfora l ort ball,whereas
kids love to explore the mart inaccessible areas of pari:,. Aim, city pari, do not typically have
pagedwetlands, meadows and fore.. Instead they are manl Cured. The pond and
adjacent wetlands at the Port Townsend golf— rse a re examples of excellent, un anaged
urban wiidirfe habitat. Is there someone who and—rand, the importance of habitat diversity in
urban areas currently on your"sbkeholders" mmmlttee7
11 22 Debbie Jahnke email baking through the agenda packet for Council's Monday wori,hop, tree you are deep into the
process for the golf course. Unless I overlooked it, I ,, no reference to a second
c[ed/protected area at the golf course, the area naw referred W as Ha tings Pond. The
whale course was once called Spring Valley Gait Course and what was the',pnng' is naw the
pond and wetland, with tour acres protected, at lea,t n theory (it has been repeatedly
ated by current le,me, in my opinion). I have attached the page in Appendix A from the
2020 PRDS Plan that speaks m the protections on bath the pond/wetland area and the pame,
bath lined as critiai areas. Thi,inf—at— came from the 1999 pari, plan, copied into the
2014 plan and then into the 2020 plan. The pond is in Bain 8 of aur --ate, plan. I've also
attached the wetland delineation from 1998, from the city website', Basin 8 inf_anon.
Thanks for your comments. Yourinput will be considered as part of the planning process.
Thanks so much for your comments and thoughts about the habitat of the golf course. I will make sure to make a
eof this tar aur consultants m c-,,d,,i their planningefforts. It wa s goad to m Bet you to rt night, andI
c ainiy can appreciate your perspective. I would encouage you W tay involved when we to I having pubilc
eetmgs, m this perspective an be heard.
9 -May -22 Nancy Erreca email David Hi hope you will be able to use the wellatthegolf --. We don't remember the orig,,al Thanks somuch foryourw=,, andyourinterertin the golf course. Part of mychar i, to engage with the
reason the �ry did not hook up to theeRluent lrne when offered. Howeverffyou wantto helpthe course unity W facilitate a discussion about the go If couae.5o, nay tuned, as l wtii be creating this process
need to tethe ewhrch wAlpmvide income. The roblem is thatthe wougolf. rs soon.Thank, againfortheweicomeandfor,endingthi, information.
ped atpallmnoany pubhntton online orfs prentrthatencouages people to come to Po—ownsend no
That -Id be nowhere. TMs is one of the oldest courses m Washington and has a wonderful history with
—,de- lAke the ETsenbe¢and H- be- families. The Leader or Hfs[orinl Socfet, '_ld have many
g,ek photos and stones. An arcrcle rn the Leader would be greatand of course grveyou copyto start
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r ow end pu bhnaons advertising the town. Below is th e first letter to editor after threats
to c
use th e and it glues a broad pi -,e of the value of the course. i hope you will encouage the
downtown assor, t,. and everyone wh o hasa publi ,-a bout Port Townsend to,, d ude the golf
golf coursers the one place where cfnldren, Sunfors, high school ers, young adults, adults, mfddl egged
and senior cittzens nn all getalong and associate with each other. Where else doyou Rad Mata One of the
big It, golf¢ettquette which everyone prat, whde leammg to play golf. And it isavery h,-,—1
golf course and should be mamtamed as a golf course and a golf course only. Itis a piece o4 PortTownsend
history. AmAftary plane once madean emergenry landing m a snow storm on the 8th fafrvvayfllummated
by llgrts from cHzen'sars.
The better shape the course¢,, the more players you will get. italso dawn tourists. Itis nota bit, .1t
co ay butit—be very -Ile, ging for the better goHe- Both the city and th ecountyshould
c ntribute to upgrades and reparcsto bong rt up to standard playabih, bemuse all the people 11,e
county use the course.A nonpmRtmaynot be 1,e best idea. you—
ou wantto keep the proshop and the
re nt berausethose bnngmalot of money. The coursefs also a greatvenueforl—Iii-d acing
eve name,,.it— also becomea place to teach turf managementand mechanics of macMne repair
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students.
-1 Liz Lindstrom email I would like m make suggestions regard th,f—„ofth, land that currently i, the golf course. Liz. I will add you to the golf course engagement b,t,,bu—list where you— stay informed about the process
and provide inputas we go. This process will startin the—tf, weeks. Thanks.
I haven't had ..¢,., whit
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a way to providethat _j”
Oh, by the way, I love aur pool, I love are pari:, and I love are cityl
Th-kyou foryour effort,!
15 Se 22 Cameron Jones email My nameis Cameron Jones and Irecently read th,—,I in The L-d,rega-gth, com nonny Thank„omuchforyourcomm,,t,. Iwouid welcome any connections orcontactsyou haveto ensure that we
engagementplan wiMaSeattiefirm to Hgure outMe bert course ofac[ionforthegoif course. havea dl vers ry ofvolcesat thetabl e. Thest,k, hol d,'s—t,lttz "I'de. represe.--of Moont—View
When initially read that,lwasfairly—fured as to why the city would pay for another Comm_,b,ause the expioation ofpossibiirt„ with the com nonny includes Mountain View Common,.A,
asses tit"'p,ciaily outside Jefferson Courcy)—, the city rt„if aldy reached out m the unity amenities, it mak„ rens, to look at Mese two prop,rti„ they are as thcontiguous with each oth,rand
unery reg,,d,,gw hat to do wl th the golf nurse. l do undersrea
tand that there's,. e could compI--ea ch other,
trepidation to take subrtantai action with the continued shadow of the Cherry Street project, but
rtiii seemsiike aiith, prior f„dback has been dinegar - l know that reveal int,.,. t,d This project was r,qu,rt,d by the Qty Council in 2020 u wa s put. hold du, m the pandemic. It now much
groups even wrote up really well thought out proposals for what to do wl th the golf murse...wlll easierto gath,,— people are more comfortable joi t,g,th,r, hence much easier m pian.
thare b, in ciud,d in this pracess�
Asidefrom this initial confusion, havealarger concern regarding who i, part ofthe stakeholder
group.I-d—t-d th, YMCA and Mt— v” havinga stake due mtheirproximitya rid
potential symbiotic relationship with what happens at the golf course,Mbut there seemsa lack of
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diverse reprerentation at the tae. I get the full list of folks - the board has yet to b, reI,a,,d,
but feel like there are important groups and voices at are not as represented a, they were
dh-gth, previous community engagement process. Voices that represent wori:ing class talks,
people of colorin aur community, and housing advocates.
f„I like Bayside Housing or GII would b, a suitable organ2a— to b, a part of the
sbkeholder group. There's aim Shyacre Farm, a mallb , of dlfferentfarmers, builders, and
ac twho are neighbors to the golf course_ the opposite side of San Juan who might have
,am,5in t- the future of the golftours,.
Hon,.t” wish the ben for you - this project and hap,that there— b, a m a re diverre and
ve d,"”, on than usually Is the case I, this mmmunlN I feel Ilk, W, always the mme
es at thetable makingdecisions. So appreciateyoutaki th,timet, readth,, mail, andI
hap, you consider expanding who i, involved in this community ou-- portion of planning the
Thes keholder,—ttee's role Is to Ilst,, to the genealpubllC(anda divers 1, of opinlons, volt,,, and people)
and help the consultant and my„ if represent accuately what the community i, raying. To that eaent, itis mart
im portant for aur community to engage in the open h- that will be scheduled to make sure th,irvoices are
heard. Th, stakeholders will not farm the r, commendation that goer W Council, the community will.
Thanks again foryour —,ht, a rid I will make sure they are represented in this process
9/22/2022 Debi Munro
email Thankyooforyoortnvoiv,menttnr,ymagimng how w, might bee[ use the Port Townsend GoiP Thanks so —h for yoort t. I have added your —,—/thought, to the log and w, will consider mem as we
Course property.This,mailis my opinion on Mat subject. It Mere is a person W whom this plan.Thanks.m m och for taking the t— t, comment.
opinion would be —1 appropriately addressed, please let me know. In geneai, I would like m
see us apply the First Peoples adage to do whatls best for the 7th g...aton from now.
It we had no debt and a large ash rererve, then aur choices would undoubtedly be different than
they need to be In Ilght of our curreniFlnan—I stat. We an'tafford to pave our street. W,
have tens of millions of dollars of debt, awed by a community of fewer than 10,000 people. And,
along with the denial by aur pubilc officials that Mie is a problem, we permit the ongoingincrare
infiartruc[ure spending, knowingthat 25 to 50 years from now we will not have the mo ,W
mai and/orrepi a re that infiznructor,, unless we take it from future geneations. Almost
every city and town in A-- has done Mie, which is ane of the reasons that aur national
infrartructor, x so badly d --k-, I know haw tempting perpetual growth isW pubilc
officials. They an permit an infasnuctur, proj,R today which will bringin money, maybe lots
otit, while the bill tar maintainingand Men r,piacingthat inf—[,haus, is put offfora
gen.rztion or two until mm....ire is in office. So my first wish is that we not do that.
Applying that. a vat, if the golf course an be run as a business Mat does not cart the City
anything, great, do Mat. It it is a net gain to the City, even better. It, however, we need to spend
n.y tokeep it afloat, on irrigation, on mowing and/or on infiartructore maintenance, money
ompi,tely matched by income from the golf coos.. opeattons, then please do not do that.
Clore the golf Cour... D -'tl rrl gate It don'tmow lt; leave Masan unmalntalned,wlldspac,—
yes, know that it may eventually revert m a 59acre blackberry patch. The point is, we do not
need any mare unn.c,sary inf—itructor, spending.
W e have made a lot of quertionabie expenditures in recent years, m I am not anguin. about the
wisdom of aur d.cisvons. The Cherry Street Apartments? The Howard Street Extensions These
Engage PF H,ilo.l would lik,to com merit about the prior National Goif Course Foundation-dy that hoe Thankyou so —h foryoorinpot forthis community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
been referred to over the m onths during discussions about the golf course. l think it wa s a flawed M oontain View Commons. IMl pass your questions along to our planning team. W, have an opeanonai
study asttdid not reem to be tailored too small town 3hol, golf coo s... l hope that the next act for the Goif Course that is effect,,, through December 202311d we are in the midstofpI,—,g for the
study or survey will contactht people in the city and the coonty.l would like to know how the tutor,, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. We will add your com mentsm the planning
newly engaged iandsape architect will determine uage of the golf course. It households are process for consvd,at,-. In the meantime, please visit this webpage for other ways you an stay involved in the
used, what will be the definition of"household"I Homeowners and renters us,the golf course, n. Envision Po T—...d Goif Course and Mountain View Commons City of Port Townsend
plus a family —1, tee can include avarying amount of people. And, not ail m onthiy or Washington(cityofptus). Thanks again fortakingth.timeto send your comments.
annual pass members sign in each time they go to the golf coos.. (even though they are
supposed to do`
tar record-keepin g purposes). Haw many residents of the city and county will
be contacted fora so rv,y, If any? And haw will we be coma -d? C., county does not quite fit
the rtah al norms, so survey or study will need t take our quirks into cons-at—I
at, thevideo int,,d,,agth.iandsape architect and was pieared to hear that he and his
firm seem to understand that aur county is a bit different. As the golf course is looked at, the dog
pari: and the pool should also be liooked at with the ams criteria. All3 are available to be used
by the pubilc, and all3 end op serving only a percentage of the county's residents. W iii the
nal op po-nmes ail be looked at with the ams -t-a? There is also the skateboard
parkeand the basketballcourts/tennis courts/p,,kIebaiI court. Ali of which take op space and are
used by only a percentage of the pubilc. Each recreational act,,ity rervesa specific group. I do not
favor any of there recreational activities and their spaces beingtaken away for another n-
recranonai use. Thank you for your consideration.
Engage PF Turn ha it of the golf course land into affordable housing, multi unit and single homes mixed,and
the other ha If open green space and gardens
Thank you so much for yoorinpot for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. W, have an opeationai contact for the Goif Course that effective through
December 2023 and we are in the mid. of planning for the tutor,, bath for the Gait Cour.. and Mountain View
Commons. W, will add your —,ht— the planning process for consid,,at,-. In the meantime, please visit
this webpa ge tar other ways you a n tay involved in the con—ah. Envision Port Townend Gait Course and
Mountain View Commons I City of Po T— ... d Waehingtn(cityofptus). Tha nks again for taking the timet
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9/22/20225umn Auer Engage Pt Keep the golf courre as open space... and keep the goiters since they'll help maintain the space. l Tho nk you so muchbb, yourinput bot' this comm unity discussion about the Port Town send Gbit Course and
wouldlove some gavel paths for walking, and mm.days/times when Mose paths a re just bb, Mountain View C.—, W. have an bpeatibnai contact for the Gbit Cb—,Matic effective through
walkers. And notly walkers outside th— times Mat they. ak
heywak at th—t n -k! l don't golf,but December 2023 and we are in the midst bb pia —hg for the future, both bb, the Gbit Cburre and Mountain View
the a ra is my pari:, native plants, my Iby bb red.,hg.d blackbirds and bth.r.iidirf., my cross- Cbmmbns. W. will add your tom mens tb the pia nning process bb, —d—t— In them —h—, please visit
untry ski tail, a nd my gree—, Other 4a I,fi—,,fly activities could be developed that don't this webpage bb, bth.r waysyouan-yinvolved in the cony.rration. Envision Port To.nrend Gbit Cburse and
j.op--the beloved byen, pari: quality bb the areaato urts? Pickle b0? The Mountain Mountain View Cbmmbns l Qty bb Portib.ns..d Washingtbn(citybbptus). Tho nks again for taking the t— tb
View ora should be ma de tb better serve the"hard"b,tspool, putt putt goib, a bowling ailey?, send your tom mems.
m re pari:ing, the R.cyci.ry, bond ban k.
9/23/2022 Jeff Branson Engage Pi Asa new member bbthis community beginningin Augurt,2022.1—so impr.sred with the spirt Thank you so much bb, yourinput bb, thiscommunity discussion abbot the Portibwnsend Goib Cburse and
bb comm unity h.r.and M. geneai desire tb continue tb improve recreation bpp--ti.. here.I Mountain View Cbmmbns. W. have an opeationai contact for the Gbit Cburse Matic effective through
a"d m finda very nice Gbit course that l have played a few t—, Itis a real gem for the December 2023 and we are in the mid.bbpI—mg bb, the future, both bb, the Gbit Cburre and Mountain View
city and a shame If the Qty decided tb libel it bb, aitrnat. uses. This course cbuid be —h Cbmmbns. W. will add your comm.ntstb the planning process bb, —d—t—, In the --h—, please visit
better unirzed by goiters who liven ,,a here If Mere was better effort by the Qty m prbmbte it. this w.bpa g. bb, bth.r ways youan_yinvolved in the conversation. Envision Pbrt T -1-d Gbit Cburse and
The phbtbsbn the Gty websiteand very nice, but the description shbuid be changed tb ay9/t8 Mountain View Cbmmbns l Qty bb Portib.ns.nd Washingtn(citybbptus). Thanksag—fortaking the t—tb
hol.cours.as with the differenttee placements one can play t8 holes. Many visiting goiters send yourcomments.
might get the wrong impression by ailing it a 9 hale c --The Cburse cbuid use same help by
the Qty tar maintenance upgad... This courre is m beloved that many loci goiters actually
volunteer their time tb help with upkeep. This is haw revered this course isl Portib.ns..d has
plenty bb Paris inciudinga very nice and large ane in Fart Warden, also FtT .ns.nd and bn
Marrbwrtbn. M Fart Fiagi.r. W, dbht need another pari:, but m be a complete Qty m p --
bb, ail, we db need this golf course. I play at W htt.hbrre in Kingstn, Pbrt W dib. GC, Trophy lake
and bthers and they all have walking paths that dbn'tinterfere with goib that are ured by the
geneai pubilc. think PF GC cbuid passible add mme t this course tb accommodate th—that
don't goib, but want tb take a walk there. This tames with cart, bb course, but lees than It. -Id
take tb completely rmboi this bb, jun a pari: uag.. Please keep the goib course going and help
provide for bngbing maintenance. Thank you.
9/25/2022 Patricia Ganger Engage PF Ar an avid golII --giy recommend leaving the golf course as a golf course. It should be
promoted more by the dry—dlrecb—I signs, brochures In mo21s/hotels, etc Itshould also
move from Gabri.i Tonan tb a prbbessionai manag.rthat will prbmbte goib events, be mare
aggressive in bren gin gin new members, and maintain visibility and goad .iii in aur city. The
of th
al history e golf Coors. Is u..... and should be protaed—the last remnant of palrle,
the wetland where many birds breed, including the are Virginia Rail, and the brush and
woodland thatis home tb many cutters and species bb birds. Gbibis a r.cranbn that an be
enjbyed thrbughbuta persons lite; young and bid, alike, an partpate. Yes, same money shbuid
be putihtb the course, but nothing like the inflated figure the NGF recommends.
9/26/2022 Flossie Bode Engage PF F bff, l a m not a goiter. Hb.ever, my husband icon avid goiterwhb user the course at least
three tb tour t—, a week with reveal goibing buddies. These pebpie ang, in age from 70 tb 90
and golfing at the PF Cb—,isa passion for them. This little course is an abmiut, gem and has
been bb, 94 years. Thisis the perfect exerts. tar people bt ail ages and is a sport you can
to play all your Ilfe. Please let's keep this a pobllc courre and have the dry take some
pude in It by putting it bn th.ir..bpag. and letting pebpie know that itis there bb, their ore and
_jbyment.
9/19/2022 Nancy Err.ca Email HI -I think you aid that the pubilc an attend but a hunt ay anything. How an we get
inbormation br comments tb them rf we have iota that an answera quernbn br brsomething
eked W iii the committee have their awn email o, MH it go through ybO
Thank you so much bb, yourinput bb, this community discussion abbot the Pbrt Tb.ns..d Gbit Cburse and
Mountain Vie. Cbmmbns. W. have an bpeatibnai contact for the Gbit Cburse Matic effective through
December 2023 and .. are in the midst bb planning bb, the future, bath bb, the Gbit Cburre and Mountain View
Cbmmbns. W.. iii add your comments tb the planning process forcbnsideat— In the meantime, please visit
this..bpag. tar bth.r ways you an tay involved in the conversation. Envision Pbrt Tb—'d Gbit Cburse and
MountainView C.—I Qty bb Portib.ns..d W ashingtn (citybbptus). Thanks again for taking the time t
end your comments.
Thank you so much bb, yourinput bn this community discussion abbot the Pbrt To.nrend Gbit Cburse and
Mountain Vie. Cbmmbns. W. have an bpeatibnai contact for the Gbit Cburse Matic effective through
December 2023 and .. are in the midst bb planning bb, the future, bath bb, the Gbit Cburre and Mountain View
Cbmmbns. W.. iii add your comments tb the planning process for cbnsid,at,-. In the --h—, please visit
thiswebpage tar bth.r ways you an tay involved in the conversation. Envision Pbrt To.nrend Gbit Cb—, and
Mountain View Cbmmbns I Qty bb Portib.ns..d W ashingtn (citybbptus). Thanks again for taking the time t
send your cammems.
The pubs , MH be able t submit comments bniine, and provide comments at numerous bpen haus.. and -1-
--y, The rale bt the rtab,hbid.r committee is a, a staff ad,-, nom mitt... Th.y.iii be charged with
lirteningtb Me pubilc, the comments, Me -1—bp-houses, and guidingthe design team and myself bn what
they heard. Thankyou.
9/16/2022 Mike M -Chan ,mall Th,, note is to thank you forme mg with the PF golf,alart n,ghtand fordoini, a n exceptional Thanks so much foryour com mems. There has been a rtudy with NGF that was com pl,ted that speaks to these
job of handlings variety of qu,rtions and com mentiIn a gaclousand lnformativ,manner.Th, tn es. Whether they are actuate or not, they are present In the study thm com pieted. This is the reason
eatinggreatly d-i,d howth, Information gm,",ngprocess.111 untold Mat. Ill give you the wehave head another NW golf consultant m do a rtudy. Hopefully this study.111 clear up any qu.rtionabout the
basis for your recommendations W the city council. results of the NGF study. Thanks again for your com merits. 1.111 pass Mem along to the planning team.
wish had done a little mare homewori: before the meeting. Today after reading aver press
releases from the city council and the related article In the leader, I think Itis very Important
goingforward thattwo misconceptions put forth In these documents be corrected. Frit, that It
will tort about a million dollars to attract mare visits and make PFGC a viable golf course, and
27 and, that the course Is In a remote tomb.,. I would be glad to talk with you In person, on the
ph-„or.,it, you further about why l Mink both these Ideas are Incorrect Insofar as It is
possib ie, I think these two misconceptions need W be corrected for the pubilc going forward,
am hopeful that the planned —th.,rt golf cons0tant.111 have a broader persp,ct,,, on the
game than NGF, coupled with an appreciation for the unique nature of the Port Townsend
unity, allowing them to ree that the courre Is actually much closer to the level of viability
that would musty the council members.
9/26/2022 Sammi eats -Janes
Engage PF Iwouid love tofthe golf--, space m be m ore amble for a m ore broad base if our ---i Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this co —ty discussion about the Port Town send Goff—and
It'd be wonderful[. have a -k —,la,to hJ carrot In row,- —h native gardens, gathering
Mountain View Commons, I. 111 pass yourquertions along to our pianningtmm. W, have an op, --M
spacesboth covered and uncovered, waikingpaths, kids piayareas,arid active sp-mgarm s.
act for the Golf Course that is effect,,, through December 2023 a rid wear, In the midst of pianning for the
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future, both for the Golf Course and Mountain View Commons. W,.111 add your --ti, m the pianning
process for y
visit page tar other ways ou mn stay Involved In the
consvd,ation. In the meantime, please this web
n'. Envision Portio.ns..d Galt Course and M .amain View Commons City of Port Townsend
Washington (cityofptusJ. Thanks again f,, -mg the Nme W send your comments.
9/26/2022 Morganti,,
Engage PF Themain rmmn I.ant to keep the golf course is bemuse of global --mg.'; we must preserve
Thank you so much for yourinput for this comm unity discussion about the Port Town... d Golf Course and
ur green, open spacer.Th, golf course is nucha space and also provides a sport that us both
Mountain View Commons. Iwlll pass your quertions alongto our planningtmm. Wehave an opeafl-M
healthful and nonpolluting.
act for the Gait Course that Is effect,,, through D ... m bar 2023 and we are In the midst of pianning for the
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future, both for the Golf Course and M ountaln View Com m ons. W,.111 add your com m ants m the pianning
process for—d—t—, In the meantim e, please visit this .,bp tar other ways you mn stay Involved In the
n'. Envision — T—ins..d Galt Course and Mountain View Commons I City of Port Townsend
Washington (cityofptusJ. Thanks again fo,-mg the Nme to send your comments.
9/26/2022 Cathy Beatty
Engage PF Hi '.I had 2more quertions'. l read in the material provided online that the PF Golf Course is
Our planning team will take into c—d—t—the rtorm.aterrequirements and f—,. as we start the
considered part of the normwatermanagement pian,m how would oth,ruses affectthat pian,
unity discussions. In addition, the city has pulled the tithes m the GC property and the deed rertncflons
,specialty IfImpervious surfacesare used m cov.rpart of the Golf Couae,lalm remember
denote thatrt murtbe used formunlcipM purpores. Thanks for youri,h”
reading reme.t— maybe In an aid ,mall, that a city employeewas unable to Hnd the written
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agreements that lard out the rertnc[ions on what the course could be used tar, but that he
thought that It had only been a verbal agreement. He seemed to be discounflng a ny verbal
agreements. ea t, the St ate of W 1mgmn does regard verbal agreements asvalid and binding
cmos
undert circumstances . Haw did he document his research m the City --o-? And
sh ouid there be a mare robust search of thore records? Thank you, Cathy beatty.
9/27/2022 Nancy Erreca
Email H amjust wondering a bout thespace az the 26 attendees can't ev en sit h e table end talk to
I. 111 think about ail of this W,. 111 be pianning the open houresand Inviting everyone to weigh In at the open
eedl otherunless th ere is another adjointrig open room Whet ere your plans if e Id of pole
houses In large....I,—Th,me,tingth-huaday isth, 18 20pthe pubilc
may WI11 y.ug.t. Gott., building or c —ity ce,ter'l 1, years pest these things have
put. pus map putt
Fted toattend, butitFs not to mlicitFn Itis forth, rtakeholdersm hal he direction.lwlll
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oved t.G.mmons at the F.rf_ The chambers if full is a g..d place for c.vid ap..... as there
e Ifi t.,_ Gen y.0 a pe, windwv end br.adcest.uEside s. pe.ple could hear? I know y.0
work with aurconsultant m open up the hybrid m ,flog to the public that wants W attend. Thanks for yourinput.
want a laf of people I. engages. y.0 must have a plan far safety
9/27/2022 Patrick Gallagher
Mall
Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons. Iwlll pass your quertions alongto our planningtmm. Wehave an opeaflonal
act for the Galt Course that Is effect,,, through D,cember2023 and we are In the midst of pianning for the
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future, both for the Golf Course and Mountain View Commons. We well add your commentsm the planning
process for ---a-, In the meantlm e, please ,,it this webpage tar other ways you mn stay Involved m the
n'. Envision Portio.ns..d Galt Course and Mountain View Commons I City of Port Townsend
Washington (cityotptusJ. Thanks again for taking the Nme W send your comments.
9/28/2022 Steve Grtmm
Engage PF Keep it a,a golf course for now and —,t a real dire need comet—m the futur, l gua--
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Golf Course and
will pop up ....Nally In oaf lifetime and we're gonna be glad we have that land still. Already
Mountain View Commons. I will pass your que —,alongto aur pi—- --W e have - op—t—i
'T' There are 2J City owned parks, 5 Courcy owned parks, and 2 State owned pari:, to ated
act for the GoiH Course that ,,effect,,, through December 2023 a nd we a re in the midst of planning for the
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within Ity limits and 31 miles of tail,. Mort we cannot even maintain or fund. Please let the golf
future, both for the GoiH Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your comment, t, the planning
0 opeate. Also my daughters golf and really enjoy it. like the reasonable paces
processfor conndeation. In the meantime, please visit this —bp- ar other ways ou an stay involved in the
t y
a nd how it's lbid�back notIl k. a fi.hy golf dab nurse.
n. Envision Port T—I, Id Gait Courseand Mountain View Commons I City of Port To —d
Washington (c,tyofptu,). Thank, again H,—i, ngth, time to ,end your comment,.
9/28/2022 Rich Hlii
Engage PF K..pth. golf nurse. Pleas. d,,'tt,y N fix something that's not broken. Focus.. f—g the
Th-kyou so much foryourin tHorth,, community discussion about the Port Town... d GoiH Course and
street,
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass your quertions alongto our pianningteam. Wehave an opeanonai
act for the Gait Course that i, effect,,, through D... tbet' 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the
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future, both for the GoiH Course and Mountain View Com m ons. W, will add your con m eat, t, the pian
process for connd,at— In the meantim e, please ,,it this —bp- fit, other way,you— stay involved in the
n'. Envision Portiown„nd Galt Course and Mountain View Com mons City of Port Townsend
Wa-gt-(c,tyofptu,).Thank, again for taking the tin e ti, ,end your cam m eat,.
9/28/2022 Blandon Robich—
You have gotten nd of every other possible fun thingti, do in P-T—I,„n d. Keep it g.ff
Thank you so much for yourinput for th„com—tyd,sc-- about the Port Town send GoiH Course and
course.
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass your quertions alongto our pianningteam. Wehave an opeanonai
act for the Gait Course that i, effect,,, through December2023 and we are in the m,dst of pianningH,, th,
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future, both for the GoiH Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your con "tsm the planning
process for connd,at— In the meantim e, please ,,it this —bp- fit, other way,you— stay involved in the
n'. Envision Portiown„nd Galt Course and Mountain View Commons I City of Port Townsend
Wa-gt-(c,tyofptu,).Thank, again for taking the time ti, ,end your cam meats.
9/28/2022 Kiri: Aibrfght
Quertions for Came H it, 1, Would you pi—, ask the Counni m embers t, walk clockwise
and the propefty, -ftmg at Mountain View? On the golf course side of Blaine, 19th, San Juan
and F Streets, the property presents a somewhat"hortile" face to p ---,almost like a wall,
xceptforabout 3D0 step, along Cherry tram A Street to 19th. Ai,o include the path up from the
end of Redwood to Cherry at A St. Same are raying that we need to preserve "open” space, but if
you are not a bird, deer, coyote or possibly a goiter, t, call it "open” i„omewhat disingenuous.
2. Does the ,cape of work tar Groundswell lude. a. Addressing the proposed development at
inc
the Shy Acre fi— property acro„ San Juan (haw many proposed units are in the planning or
permitting _g'?)the future development of property across F Street, and also property - the
corn fSan J uan and F/Disco very where a gas,fano. once rat, with underground 2 nk,l b.
Thank, so much torattending the meeting y, --y afternoon. It was great to meet you.
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I<irlcol Gright(dH
Addressing the" --i” property, which the City may soon propose to s,P? Could this be
corpoated into a reworking of the Mountain View ampu,? c. Reviewing liana., nearby
where tafHc circles may be proposed, tar example at Sims and --y? d. C—tmga link with
Kah Tai Lagoon and the reworking of S,m, Way alongside Boat H-0 Q—,on, tar Groundswell
Landscape Aah,[ecture, Ch -Jo— and Rebeca Melvin. 1. Could this property be aur"Cental
Pari:;' in the tad,t,on of Qimrted, knitting together Kah Ta,, Mountain View, Happy Valley, and
the path alongside Q— Village through Froggy Bottom to Fart W orden? 2. Are the coyotes
b,ingconndered a, Stakehoiders? Rebeca noted that"Land,ap, Architecture is a, much about
listening a, ti, about building a nd imparting the value of b„nga cuituai advocate for the
.atom world:' 3. Would it be passible to invite Architecture and Urban Planning School, (U. W.,
Here
are same answers to your questions.
Question, for Came Hit,'.
1. Would you pi—, ask the Counni members t, walk clockwise around the property,starting at Mountain Vi,.'
On the golf course side of Blaine, I9th, San Juan and F Streets, the property presents a somewhat"hostile" face t,
p,d,rtrian,, aimort like a wall, except for about 300 step, along Cherry from A Street to I9th. Ai,o include the
path up from the end of Redwod to Cherry at A St. Same are raying that we need to preserve "open" space, but if
you are nota b_,d deer coyoteoor pass biya goiter, t, 0 i open -s .what d -s .genu- ,.
2. Does the ,cape of work tar Groundswell include. a. Addressing the proposed development at the Shy Acre fans
property across San Juan (haw many proposed units are in the planning or permitting stage?); the future
development of property across F Street; and also property on the comer of San Juan and F/Discovery where a gas
-h underground tank,' t_
b, Addressing th, C—d -p -y, which the Qty may man -p— t, s, IR Could this b, incintoa
orpoated
-- of the Mounts VI,. —?
c. Rev —hg ioat ons nearby where ffi, b, proposed f,, exampI, at S— and K --Y?
Haven?d. Creat riga-nk wth Kah Tai lagoon and the rewori:-ngof Sims Way alongside Boat Ag—, t
9/28/2022 Stephanie I Engage PF
Th-ky—o much foryourinput forthiscommunity discussion about the Portiownsend Goff C—,, and
Mountain Vi— C.—, I MH p— your quertions along to our pianningtam. W, have an ---M
--t f,, the Goff C—,, that is effect,,, through December 2023 and ., are in the -- of pI—,hg f,, the
future, both for the Goff C—,, and Mountain View C-1, W, will — your --t, t, the pI—,hg
processfor consvdeation. In the meantime, please visit this webpage tar other ways you an stay involved in the
n'. Envision Portiownsend Goif Course and Mountain View Commons Gty of Portiownsend
Please keep ass golf course. Ouryouth use this course forth, high school team, cross country
Washington dy---,
ht—dfamilies " the community enjoy —hg It.
9/28/2022 Scott Phi- Engage PT
Same —p—
Th, PT Gaff has been a -a—, t, b, L-hd in the -dfl, of the h— of P- T— ... d,
Growing hp in t— I've had the opportunity W spend great Time, m ak,hg memories .,th my
pa—t, g—dpa—t, ch,ldr,n and f,,,hd, over the years. Gaffers of ail age, have the
td
opportunity W I,a mand xthere ... -- -- and � a healthy-- experience.
To — —h a ate ha... f,, — and future ge—at— .-Id b, the g,,at,,t loss f,, ah of —
--t, - that yLy hat my thoughts— —anght, and af,, h important community -W—
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do _t go u hh,,d,d, PI—, ave our course torah t, Bribe Sincerely, S-11 J. Phi-,
9/28/2022 Bev
Same —p-
-p the P- T,.—hd g.ff course, a golf
9/28/2022 Leah Ug...
Same —p—
PI—, keep the Gaff course
9/2:/2022 Nick l,la,a
—p the golf
Same
9/28/2022 Savanna
SameP_
Kthe golf I
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9/21/2022 Ke tiny J1.
KPIt a' a "'
Same
9/29/2022 A—
SaveTayI�, Sathe golf
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9/29/2022 T_— t I, --
Keep It a , a golf couae.Focu, on Mountain VI,. f,, -,--eht and -gagmg the people that
Same —p—
don't golf
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9/2:/2022 Al ... Deanp
— the golf
SameI Se responre
9/28/2022 - Rah,
-, a, a family, love g—gt, this ,—, Al.ay, f,,,,dIy and itsan a—,tythat my hol,fa-dy
Same responre
9/28/2022 Chad WII
Durchildren need a golf course in W— Skating —k g.— ..I,hg alley g.— PI— do —t
Same —p-
-h-, W --If,, kids.
9/28/2022 Shona Grimm
Plea— 'p thegt'Ia a, a g. if -- It , a -I-U, loci, affordable venue f,, J,ff-
Same —p—
d,ht, a rid gh-, a Ake, aid and young. I would, however, b, in -p- of a dd,hg a section f,,
gift al another activity f,, ail age,
9/2:/20222 Lily Martin
—p the_ I
golf rre
responre
Same9/2
/202 Ka -,a Bergen
—p It a, golf course, adding a p- p- ... t,—
Same—p-re
28 -Sep Gail W--
PI,a,, —th, golf course for h—,hgf,, — I-- p-pI, Th... are plenty of other places in
Same —p—
:h,,,-,afa, -td— recreation, whereas there, a ...... lack of affordable housing. Thank y-
'9'Input.
9/28/2022 Nett,, Vander
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nothing MH fiH n that 'pa" better then — home t— golf course.
9/28/2022 Lena Curti,
Would love W ... a space similar t, ILL CARRDL h... the golf course is, with different
Same —p—
,pp,,t,,,t,,, ft, people to recreate "d—d),
9/28/2022 Ma,, thada—k,
Convert hole golf course to a driving —ge. Convert the —t to --ai a —, with tail, and
Same —p—
other way, f,, humans W enjoy —,- —,,at— No housing. Dth,, area, of PT are bang
developed fo, housing, bath affordable and -t aff-a U, CIL— with a d I,-
tend to b, —, h'au,
9/28/2022 Ga— Roger,
Same —p—
PI—, keep It a, a golf course. Itis the only affordable place f,, — and my kid, to play.
9/28/2022 Nate Holme,
—p the golf courre a g.if -- Wh- It i, g.- It i, g.— No getting It back.
Same —p—
9/28/20225amantha Mili,r
Keep the golf courre l Same r„Patin
9/28/2022 Keil, Riley
KPitasa fold cause. Same responre
9/28/2022 Ashley Quinn
Keep the golf courre. Same responre
9/28/2022 Em1 noel Abbott
Keep ourcourse. sam,r„ponm
9/28/2022 Nancy Erreca
IT, good meeting end good people end ideas it --d He-,,, please stop putting p,ejudi Ciel
info,mati on in the Pepe,_ Vou again mention several bed things about golf Course end lwv rote,est to Hnaii da so much forattendin he stakeholders
two nice ymeetyou yerter y gt group information
frau asurvey[hef left out many people who use the course end put in en idea [het k couldgo .Thanks .The
way end be ho using en raging many people to went to get rid of co ._Ther eed thatl�am using for the golf.ours,.. from a fully paid for a rid anrnoned study of the golf nurse.I—'tdeny that
to mention that in a—...he the meeting_ Vou say you went to be fair and ifyou do you h.,Id reportor history, but hat we can do go,ngforward,,take the opportunity to,ubsant,at, it or not, a rid produce
at leastaddthat m any peopl e went the golf Course to stay as it is At least you did not put in the einformationthattak,s into con„d,at,on Port To.mm�d. lam not intentionally providing false information,
12 million even Chris M -,that is not right_PI ease eithertake koffy... do cu menu online and jure the facts we havein front of us. hook forward w a robust community conversation. Thanks foryour
printed materiel that farm... market deoPIP hand oat o, rnapg. d to say a local report Coming ar
d seemed expensive o.....thmg instead of trying to drill the 1 2 million into everyone who ,ends comments.
about golf course knowyour basses ere pushing you but you,wo,ds ere detrimental
10/1/2022 Kathy Howard email
” rcarny nowa,o anoiv,o„namnsancpooi user ror over.0 years, usng ut,o„p aria Thankyou so much foryour input forth,, community discussion about the Port Town send Golf Course and
for exert,. and da„w hen there is an inrnuctor. Igo daily, early, as soon asth, pool opens. Mountain View Commons. Iw111 pas, your q--, aloegw our pi—mgteam. We have an opeational
Two of my pool friend, and l have come up with a n idea w replace our failing pool. Frst, there is act for the Golf Course that,,effect- through December 2023 a rid w,ar. m the midst of planning for the
a lot of grant money for pool, and recreation, especially for real a sea,. Second, la rid and a plan future, both for the Golf Course and Mountain View Commons, We 11111,11 your comments t, the planning
of what a rid where the pool would bei, very important before grant money can be asked tar. Our processfor consvdeation. In the meantime, please ,,it this.,bpag, tar other way, you an stay involved in the
idea i, to u„the fairgroued, m ore than a fel days a year. ADiym Bled pool there would be n. Envision Portiownsend Golf Courseand Mountain View Commons)Gty of Portiownsend
a greatplace to staitanarnviry cent,,. irs on the 1,,,''d ihere'sa lotof room forparking Washington tyofptu,). Thank, again for tak,ng the time W rid yourcom tent,.
which Mountain Vie. i, sorely lacking. The rert of ouridea is have MANAGED growth at the
fairgroued,w indude other activities fora,, ages. Which might indude a gym (forth. pickle
bailers a rid others), an indoor skating rink, a bu,idmgfor mdoory,ar around farzners mari:et with
room for sasonai vendorsto rem erect th,ii,—t, or oovenng, dunngth, g—mg season. Ittm,
anaged well, this project could have a plan and do it Ml m step,, not Ml m once. There are
a It of other possibilities that could be added a, well. Gant money may be mailable fora It of
these ideas, —mgr huge burden on the taxpayers We have had trouble keeping profes,mnal
people here be cause therelsn.t anything here for kids to do. W, need that changed so we an
have goad young doctors and deetirts and other professional people here and have them be glad
they ane w aur community. The pool users concerns are a very aged pool with the life of aur
e, getting to ,,Platt on date apidly. The last 1”" aus,d the pool dosure for over a
n„k
-d very espensve too. The swim tram doesn't havea„gulatlon pool to train n and
other trams won't mine here for meett beaure their Imes don't mune due to the short lanes.
Dur kids deserve better than th„I And aur pool o, being held together with bandaid,. A, a 70+
yeah dsenior.,trim, the pool i, VERYiid, portant to m e tar keeping me,xeai ed, joint, be,ng
able to move and all around fun w be m the water. The Pooi, tar mart of the seniors. I, the only
a cuviry we an do to keep us mobile and moving. IL'sway more, to us, thanjustfun irsa
Missing even one day makesa huge difference of how we feel and how we move.
dmessiryl
r,from almost Ma rrowrmn, Island and many days, more than I are to even count, get to
the pool W find they are closed tar chlorine levels,,hart tall, too cold to sw1m, waiting forparts
9/29/2022 Addie Hoffman Engage Pi
Thank you so muchforyourinputforthis community discussion about the Portiownsend Goff Course and
Mountain View Commons. 11111 pas, your q--, along W our planning team. We have an op,ationai
act for the Goif Course that i, effective through December 2023 and ., are in the m,drt of planning for the
To whom Rmat concern, My namei,Add,e, lam 11 years old and m 5th gade at O., -.N. A,a future, both for the Golf Course and Mountain Vie. Commons. We will add yourcom m int, to the planning
I'din Portion,end, l feel like 'y- should matter.) believe the golf c--sh —process-- be process for --d—hod.In the meantime, please vi„tth,,.,bpage for other way, you an stay mvoiv,,1 m the
something for thew hole communiry like a multi use pari: with an osco
utdoor age, a mmunity Envi
n.„on Pot Tb.n,end Goif Course and Mountain Vie. Commons) City of Port Towns end
organic grd,n,a pilylra, and a foodt— park,ngiot. We could make one of the buildings a Washington jc,tyofptu,). Thank, again for taking the time W rid yourcomments.
place for people m learn about nauv, history and ml tore and one of the other buildings thars
already there could be an arrad,, and, of course, aim jus open space torac[iI Ever since I
cook a vi se to the,,- flower paid, and the ,,it th, h,f EIE—h6, stood on, it made me
m urs
the golf coe into a pari: even mare beaure I don't think this ached lah—ib
should beuendo,ed by a golf co—e. I want it be a place where everyone feel, invited w ,,it
and acknowledge. When I looked at the website I a. that m orderW keep the golf course
nn,ng you .-Id have to cut dawn trees and I don't want that. There i, so much beautiful
re there but it i, not fully open to the public rfthey're not there W ph There , this ane
bu
on the prop„ry lratl think is really beauttful t I an't safely enjoy it unless I'm a
golfer. Theon golf course ,,aim m
a ajor afety hazard. My {need, who live, San Juan ave. ha,
,ho.n meth, -i-,— golf ball, that have flo.n into her yard and could have hit her. My dad aim
almost got hit by a golf ball when waIk,Pg on the opposite side of the road on 19th rt when it
bounced all the way overthe recyciery. Also, being m .lore to the road, a golf ball could swing
in .1nd,hieid at any moment l think that the golf course should be turned into
something afe and accessible for the whale community.
9/29/2022 Daryl Gillette Engage PF Ilirten,d and watched online to the first rtak,hoid,rsme —mg. 9/29/22, Much of th, ah -was
omprehens161 e. hope ihatan be fined. It appeared that number of "stakeholders" were
not present. would like to be in the rtak,hoid,r group.
9/29/2022 Tom Engel Engage PF
Aft,, tt-d- the kickoff m eetlng on Sept 29, 1 telt that the best decision cntenon tar decision
making r,gardtngth, site was stated ,earth, end of the meeting. "W hat satisfies the needs of
the mart residents of P 2 , Whenever I dm, past the golf course, I'm left with the feeling that
there mighta w,Iib,fencinga s on Indian Is land a round it. Ail ofthi'land, city property," off
limits to all except the few who golf In evaluating the benefits of retaining the status quo,l
'u - that the com -t— consider the following points 1) H aw many goiters not counting
multiple uses by a singi, individual) use the course in a year. Divide this number by the
population of PF. 2) How,cologialiy friendly i' golf course maintenance? I have heard that the
Of - — ores th, -me amount of water annually as the whole city. 1, thi,th-? If'o, how can
such a high usage be justified? Could it be that in an ea of climate change, golf coursesas
entry configured are no longervi NO 3)Haw an the land be used mare effect forth,
health and wellbeing of resident'? One passibility i' a Swiss vita parcours-specially designed
I ogging path, —aval table for everyone, anytime and free of charge. In a t p—I parmury there
e up to 15 stations where you an do up to 43 exercires with the help of the simple equipment
stalled there.4) Two pressing needs for the city are accessible open space and affordable
housing. Accessible open space means pari: land available W all at all timer Affordable housing
,'affordable to line cooks, servers, banrtas, and tad„people who are currently shut out of
th, haw,hg—ik t. Both of these needs require centrally located land tram which job' and
housing an be reached. The golf course and Mountain View commons provid,a unique
opportunity to address these needs.
Thanks so much, but we already have a pretty full grou, the kickoff —mg 19 of 20. W, had some
stakeholders on the phone, in person, or sitting in the audience. Thanks again for your inter,.[. I Mi let you know
if ,yth,,g changes.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass your quertions alongto our pianningtam. Wehave an ---i
act for the Gait Course that i' effect,,, through D,c,m b,r 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the
future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your --t, t, the planning
process forc—deah— In the —ht
im e, please ,,it this —i tar other ways you an stay involved in the
n'. Envision Portiown"rid Galt Course and Mountain View Commons I City of Port Townsend
Washington (cityofpt.us). Thanks again fo,-mg the time W send your comments.
9/29/2022 Margret— Engage PF Hl There, I — , sorry you had a hurt -mg, ,n,tic,. Dur consultant uses Microsoft T,am'a'a piafforzn,and
suaily aht—t—ily downloads and start right up. Forthose that have difficulty,or 1—t connect, therein
also a phone number rami into the meeting, and we are recordingth, meetings. The recordings will be a,ailabie
'taken a back when I tt—p- to attend the first"Stakeholder” —tingand had to appeal on the City
''wIb'itl a few days after the m eeting. W, area im holding the m,,rings in person. l hope that one
o
City "front desk". -i,' telyrtwa'dunhg wo bmg hoursa'I was helped, talked though of these methods worts better for you next hh, e. Twill pa"along yourinter,rt in Giobai Warznin ga'a cntenaW
the complicated process so lcouid attend. Herelmurt question the wisdom of introducingand use while planning for the land. Thank you.
en hely new"connection" tar us that required a "Microsoft" program downioadl have never
e any[hingiike this when communicating with the Gty or...m s any other entity.
eeaure I attempted to download the progam, the time rt was taking became alarzning so I
-d it off. Thatis when ailed the City "desk".She—ukwith me step by stepuntilI hea rd
s and arid -w, in the far lower right of my screen what was, apip mly, the man conducting the
eeting. (ey thenwell und,—y). never was abol, to see any of th, stakeholders norid,ntify
them or who was speakingand -w only circles with initials. was very autious about clicking on
the screen, but when I did there were two people, ane, a woman as a ghostlike image, and a man
who were amidst boulders or same sort of p i—bbai scene. Wa'thi' a joke? I will nev,rtry W
tend another ofth„e m eeting, virtually., unless I an simply and easilylisten on my telephone.
How are citizens without computers attending—b,almeeting,? IS a recording of the
Statkehoiders m eetinga—IaNe?The panted matenai on the screen was aim ort im possibieW
read. Can I easily access the list list ie after it corrected? I yet —gly believe that Global
Wai-ng should be emphasized when we talk about heaithl
9/29/2022 Mari -Jenkins .,a ge PF
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. Iwili pa's your quertions along to our planning team. W, have an -,at, ai
act for the Gait Course that i' effective through Decem ber 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the
future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your --t, t, the planning
Pit cess forc-,,d,,at,-. In the meantime, please ,,it this webpage tar other ways you an stay involved in the
n'. Envision Portiown"rid Galt Course and Mountain View Commons I City of Port Townsend
Washington (cityofptus). Thanks again for taking the time W send your comments.
9/30/2022 Kathleen Hudmn Engage PT face of ourcoilapsinggiobai ecoryr[ems. AS Yogi B,—is reputed to have mid'. the Future j.rt
nwhat rt.red to be. Fortunately, perhaps, Resiliency is a very big concept... It would have m
ciude, for example, spiritual resiliency. Our spirits a re nourished by such things asa connection
with the natuai world, the experience of beauty, creat,,, expression, gardening, imming. Oh,
and Fun. And we are going to need a lot ofspiritual t—gth movingforward. Social. Jur[as
organized neighborhoods may be the bigger[ part of emergenry preparedness, a tight ening of
the social "t -"'(mai ring connectionhels and makingnew ones)wiii allow more efficient
,mi.tion of probiemsas they arise. It also ps aur sense of connection and experience of
mf,ty. It supports the spirt. And going forward, it may be increasingly important to be able to
cialize outside. Health. The healthier aur bodies, the better able we will be to cape. Walking
sails area huge health benefit, particularly tar us aid people. AH __t
activities will help
well. Oxygen is goad. Food (think food forest) 11goad. Nuts a rid Baits. And then, of course,
there isthe infrartruc[uai piece. Energy. W, cannot depend on an abundant supply of energy
,_,hg It, aur community from paints outside. W e need W be able to g--, —, portion of
what we use naw, and be able to use that energy when the grid is dawn. That means micmgrid(s)
coupled with lots of solar panels and perhaps a wind machine ortwo. That may be mare ata
pmgam than a.reteria, but it is pretty m uch impilntin the criteria am suggertmg.
Transportation. Waikingtails, biking trails & Rery.l,ry, EV chargers Recycling, Repair, Reuse. W e
will need to figure out haw t, reuse mare and dispose of less. Thisis Port --hl, W, mn
e up with ideas outside the existing paadigm. There may be opportunifi,s m set -d, space
fors.., -i", It seems to m e that this approach covers m ort ail of what the stakeholder
eetmg.ame.p with tor.nteria, yet itis really only the ane criterion (with c, -,amt, tar do
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ability). It may be easier, going forward, m think in these terms. Then alternative
pmj-/progam suggertions mn be directly compared in terms of th,irimpa- on community
Resilienry. ps Re. Goif, If it mn be done w,thout mu.h additional financing, l think it would be
to have at lean a pa dice putting green and/ora hale or two (.&9z). It would a nod to the
hirmry of the place, and would allow goiters same pa dice and others m l,am haw to play. But it
Thank you so much for yo.rinp.t forthis community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. I will pass your com mems along to our planning tea m. W, have an op eat, -M
act for the Goif Course that is effect,,, through December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the
future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your --t, m the planning
process for consvd,at,-. In the meantime, please visit this webpage tar other ways you mn stay involved in the
n'. Envision Portiown... d Goif Course and Mountain View Commons Qty of Port Townsend
Washington (.ityofptus). Thanks again for taking the time W send your comments.
2 D,t Tom Cotton .,a ge PT Thank you so —h for yo.rinp.t for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass your comments alongto our pianningtmm. Wehave an opeanonai
act for the Goif Course that is effect,,, through December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the
71 future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your com merits m the planning
process forconsvd,at,-. In the meantime, please visit this webpage tar other ways you mn stay involved in the
n'. Envision Portiowns..d Goif Course and Mountain View Commons I Qty of Port Townsend
Washington (.ityofptus). Thanks again for taking the time W send your comments.
Pim,, keep the golf course an open green space
9/30/2022 Kirk Ailbrfght
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10/3/2022 Colin --,
Thank you so much foryo.rinp.t forthis community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
M ounhin View Comm ons. Iwill pass your quertions alongto our pia—mgtmm. W, have an op eat, -M
nvey how special the undeveloped pame area icon the golf course. Very little of the c a.tfor the Goif Course that is effect,,, through December 2023and we are in the midst of planning for the
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Krmncaipamesrtiii existin the Pacific Northw,rt. l think it would beanimprovementand future both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your com merits m the planning
honorthe hirtorial native use of the space by expanding the pat'ri, through reed collection and process for consvd,at,-. In the meantime, please visit this webpage for other ways you mn stay involved in the
trnspiantmgft. the,xirtmgs,t,W maintain th, genetic uniqueness that is this srte. n. Envision Portiown... d Goif Co.rs,and Mountain View Commons l Qty of Port Townsend
Washington (cityofptus). Thanks again fortaI mgth, time to send your comments.
10/3/2022 Anya Lawrence
Thank you so much foryo.rinp.t forthis community discussion about the Portiown... d Goif Course and
Mo=n View Commons. Iwill pass your quertions along W our planning team. W, have an op eat, ai
act for the Goif Course that is effect,,, through December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the
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future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your com merits m the planning
W,, my husband Norman Pasch, and myself, believe that the public's b,rt interert is W tum the process forcons,d,at,-. In the meantime, please visit this webpage for other ways you mn stay involved in the
goifcourre intoanarb.retum, foilowingth, example of the pari: in Moscow, ID., which ism n. Envision Portiowns..I Goif Co.rs,andMountain View Commons) Qty of Port Townsend
lovely ifs the first thing people talk about when they talk about Moscow. It a pia., of peace Washington(.ityofpt.$). Thanks again for taking the time W send your comments.
and tanghday and daws and serves po,pl, from ail around.
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10/7/2022 Peter Wert email
very happy to see match—is a discussion about an aitemasv, are forth, PT .If course
_d M=— View Commons area. I have two school a d children attending PT schools and
would love to see improvements Mat included a must, — park area, affordable housing, and a
pool thatis swim team appropriate but also has spaces for young kids and the retired
community. Itis painful m see such a huge are of PT being utd—d by so few people tar such a
o c[ivity,aspecia ily when another golf course is looted only a few miles away. Thank you
tar opening this discussion m the pubilcl
t the golf course once o, twice a week and—mare younger people p- 1patn
the sport. It's got to be a goad thing.
Thank you so much for you,input bb, this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass your qua—, along to our pianningteam. W, have an opeafionai
act bb, the Goif Course that is effect,,, through December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning bb, the
kuru,,, both bor the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your --ti, m the planning
process bo, consvd,ation. In the meantime, please visit this —bp tar other ways you — stay involved in the
n'. Envision 11t T11ns,nd Goib Course and Mountain View Commons I City ob Port Townsend
Washington (cityobptus), Thanks again bo, taking the time to send your comments.
Thank you so much bo, you,input bo, this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goib Course and
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass you,questions along to our pianningteam. W, have an opeafionai
act bo, the Goib Course that is effect,,, through December 2023 and we are in the midi,[ ob planning bo, the
kuru,,, both bo, the Goib Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your --ti, m the planning
process bo, consvd,ation. In the meantime, please visit this —bp- bb, other ways you — stay involved in the
n'. Envision Pbt Tb— s,nd Goib Course and Mountain View Commons I City ob Port Townsend
Washington (cityofptus). Thanks again bo, taking the time to send your comments.
We were ail surprised at the stakeholdersmeeting to h,arMatTh, ReCYI,ry did not have water Thanks bo, you, email. The R,Cyciery has a s —te a greement with the school district A, such, they would be
r,l,ctncity.lcail,dth, shop and was mid' we do have electricity but it is not good and we do responsible bb, any upgrades bb, their facility. It is very similar m our lease, where wear, responsible bb,
of have wate,.'It is good Mat the city will be fi—t-mg Mt. View a nd ail ob the new upgrades to MV commonsand the pool.Thanks.
things they put there and the ReCy,i,,y will have water and goad electricity.
at through the recording ob the recent meeting about the golf course (and Mountain View). I
thoughtrt very helpful m e,tlngandl was imp —d by the quality obinput from the
v rtakehoid,rs. The one Ming l was surprered about was the a imps[ complete lack ob focus
to change as va dells on"
prindple. The Flrst tlme even heard the words "dlmate changea was dg11-11 end of the meetlng when one person cautiously mentloned the words. I
gu,sslw mehow expecting that climate change would have taken a much g„ate,-ol, in
people's dedson proce4es. I did hea-the word '-vi-onm ane' —d bota, the moderator noted
that
word by i- If m eons llcd,it, everything),IthinkI'm al ht,anxious aboutthis. Fromwhere think Mata lot ob Me cntena Matthe rtakehoiders ame up wrth directly impacts climate change and heard
si; ciimatechange seemsto baa challenge of exirtennai propormons.To mertis M, single to pian bo, a heaithierenvironmen; Some obth, cnterea.surt—bihty, preservation of green space,
biggestchallenge of thiscentury—a challenge thatwill determine if we (humans)will even have signiflantiy h,aiMierenvironment,natu„asa stakeholder, resilienry, thinking ahead farfara,, needs, habitat
noth„c,ntury.l understandvery well that many people,, things differently. eat l-ly hope enhancement ail leadmim timate than Iwiii Ion deli nersto consider
that as Mis group moves forward Mere will be some kind of-ecogna— Mat sum e p”—pies pact one ge. passa gyou, comments to our g
r ii hon others.To me this list of fie les needsto be reviewed as they m ov,borv✓ard in th design process. Thepubilc an always com ment via the website or—I like you did.
ea yore more importantt posse pnncip W, will also have some open houses where there will be ample opportunity to give input. Thanks again bo,taking
fromthe perspective of'whattwo or three p -maples really are the m os[Important here"' For
ample, much asI—(a nd flnancia ily suppbt)th, Rerycl,,y, l do not think mf—t—tu-e for thetimeto send yourthoughtsl
the read ery is remotely as imp --t as dlmate change. To me les Il it, Comparing taking away
-,,,t ph... phone versus mking away my oxygen. I know that taking my grenddaoghtei's I -phone
way would )eel like threatening to her but taking her oxygen away would take her like away
quickly. Iwould toveto ree the,,,Clary get t omof hal p as an ootmm e of this prof- buteven
re-Idlove the discussion m get focused m ore at M,l,v,i ob what we, the cit�ens ob this
could do to make the golf course (and related properties) outcome hav,a s,gn,i
,duationai and practical impact on climate change.
10/7/2022 Nancy Erreca email Hi- I hope you have e way to separate but keep each week's comments so we ten still see them
all but not have to scroll through them all and by to figure which ere new_ Maybe a dated headline Thanks bo, the suggestion. Iwiii see if aur web person — do this. Thanks.
an the current batch end new ones tap_ The wad update sounded like we the previous ones
might go away_ Anyway thanks far having a --t lag_
10/10/2022 tynn and Darryl H„nkc email Thank you so much bo, you,input bo, this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goib Course and
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass you, qua—, along to our pianningteam. W, have an opeafionai
act bo, the Goib Course that is effect,,, th—gh December 2023 and we are in the midst ob planning bo, the
Pi,as,k,ep the goib course, make it acceptable m a ii by addinga walking path on the future, both bo, the Goib Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add you, com menti, m the planning
perimete—'th protection b— from flying golf ballk process bo, consvd,ation. In the meantme, please visit this webpage tar other ways you— stay involved in the
n'. Envision Pbt Tb—send Goif Course and Mountain View Commons I City of Port Townsend
Washington Icityofptus). Thanks again fo,takingth, tlme to send your comments.
10/10/2022 Na—y--
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. I will pass your quenions along to our planning team. W, have an opeat—i
Golfers have taken care of th..our.. for 118 yearsslnce It became a golf Courseln 1904 .When
-tact for the Golf Course that i,eff,,t,,, through D,c,m ber 2023 a rid we a re in the mid,[ of planning for the
youlook at old photos there are no trees. Golfers have planted ma ny trees and golfers ar,th,
future, bothforth, Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your comments m the planning
nth, course is so beautiful today.They dere.,, W continue taking a re of it. Remember the
process for consvd,ation. In the meantime, please ,,it this webpage for other ways you an stay involved in the
Iartsthreeyears were not normal y,arr.Thi,i, one of the olden coursesin Wa,hingtn a rid ha,ac
n. Envision Portiownsend Goif Courseand Mountain View Commonsl Gty of Portiownsend
wonderful ib,, ry with local residents like th, El„nb,i, a rid H—mgr families. You a n res a rid
W-mgton(cityofptu,). Thanks again ft, -mg the time to send your comments.
feel the history here every where you go. I hope you see haw lucky we are to have such a hinoric
place. The dry Coon..l'slob is to keep the history alive not get rid of it Under Mike Early the
made money and can do m again. None of th, 27 city awned parks pay forth,m„ i,,,.
The city was given the golf course to be preserved and a mandate of their awn th-Ii,
Preservation Committee i,to prererve and restore hinoric properties. I think the course i, a 10 in
that ategory. Ed-- yourself and rere—ii this wonderful cours, a„ptgolt cam The golf
course is living hinory. It also open space which mart commenters wanted.
10/7/2022 Robert Homer
onii—yregular basisand an offer keen insight into the culture and phy,iai state of the
Thank you so—ii for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
m also atain,d architectwith a background in ii-d—,architenur,and urban
Mountain View Commons. Iwill pas,yourqu,nion, alongto ourpianningt,— W,ha„an ---i
PI--gii-m nt pro,idinglmportant habitat sp—,th,g.I courre provides an open
act for the Goif Course that i,eff,,t,,, through Decem ber 2023 a rid we a re in the midst of planning for the
space than, critic i m urha ii area s. Asan avid gulf,. l res the many local residents and aim
future, both for the Goif Course and M -ht—View Com m ons. W, will add your com m —, m the pia nning
,is ors that ut,liz,d the golf course. Although it a pparr that it i, under used from an outsiders
Process for consvd,ation. In the ---e, please ,,it this webpage for other ways you an stay involved in the
p,rsp,niv” ii" attest that the golf ct—,, —y well utilized as a isnot,"' is pace a nda
n. Envision I` -Tb n„rid Goif Course and Mountain View Commonsl City of Port Townsend
panicscenter. With improvements W 1-1 ba,icareas it would be utilized even more. looking
W-mgton(cityofptu,). Thanks again ft,-mgth,timeto send your --t,
specifiaily at the course; the greens and tee boxes are the martin need of repairand
mai taimmakes„nreforpublic iifnyt have netting installed ail all parts of the
that run along side roads. Nettmgi, a common feature tar urhan golf courses -that could
nnailed to allow dirf, access m be maintained. The course plays much like a links course
be ie
ut"I'm g minimal waterin the dry months -and using the irrigation m maintain the quality of the
ee b—,and greens. I think upgad,' W the panic, facility will attact mare golfers and an
addition ata putt puttara could attar[ mare families getting children involved in the sport at
an earlier age similar to the soccerand little league that occurs in PT. The club house boon, an
oma mg,i,w and upg,ii- w the building could see a wand class i ---and bar. Itis a
great place to gab a dank or eat in addition to playing golf -however the facility is not up W date
and the advertirements for the current i---nt and baro., not wide spread. Mart loci
es dent don't even know there is akar/restuantat the tour... In summary, believe that the
golf courre iso very important feature tar our town. There is a very active community built
anthe sport and itis as important to maintain the space to rapport that community jiurt as
ld
or
the sate pari:, basketball courts, scceHeid, are importaM W maintain. The courre provide
viable habitat, important open space, and with ire prom —, it could provide mare p—t-
space for future geneat,ons of golfers. It could aim provide a baut,fui place for toad and dank
n a peaceful and open green space setting. I would advise the city to address the key issue wrth
the courre in regard, W netting and pubilc dety, and W focus.,mortes or re pairs that will
ultimately make the mon impact to the quality of the course and the experience that, created.
10/8/2022 Nancy Err,ca
When I— bokmg at hinoric phot, pf Port town„rid lovas mrpri„d t,,, how few trees
Thank, foryoure—LUnfortunately, the phot,d-t toad, but Iha„entered yourcom ment,in our comment
n the golf course land. It look, liken does nowbeaure golfers have been planting trees
logfor review dunngth, planning process.
andtaking are of the courre tar 118 years since it was founded in 1904. Please let them
,ohti-, for another 118 years. No ane will take a, much are a, the goiters. These photos are
t the best but you get the idea. Caption on ane i, Jefferson County Hirtonai Society and the
other caption i, when course was given to the city. ( unable to part photo,)
Comments for week of 30/10/22
10/10/2022 Ryan MacGregor White
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass your quenions alongto our pianningtam. Wehave an opeat,-iii
act for the Goif Course that i, effect,,, through Decem ber 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the
future, both for the Goif Course and M ountain View Com mons. W, will add your com m ent, t the pia nning
process for consvd,ation. In the meantime, please ,,it this webpage tar other way, you an stay involved in the
Please keep the golf course in it,current --A,l under nand things, this property m un be
n'. Envision Portiownsend Goif Course and Mountain View Common, I City of Port Townsend
used for recreation for our community. Goif and an open space for the benefit of ail of our
Washington(cityofptus). Thanks again to, -mg the time to„rid your com merits.
community i, a wonderful thmg.
10/12/2022 margo.karier®gmaii.com
would oven see the dog pari: increased in me. And add enrichment activities -like Thankyou so m uchforyourinputforthi,community discussion aboutth, Po --..rid Goif Course and
ms /plants the dogs sniff,etc.A previous dog pari: our dogs loved had one comer devoted to Mountain View Commons. I will pass your quertions along to our pianningtam. W, have an opeat,
es&shrubs with doggie tails so they could sniff&run through. The current dog pari: i, really --t act for the Goif Course that i,eff,,t,,, through December 2023 a rid we are in the midst of planning for the
85 only —Z for dogs that love to fetch -which leaves my dogs out. And add benches and/or to U,, future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your comment, m the planning
for people W sit at Maybe the current dog pari: could be made intoa playground and largerdog process forc—d, h-. In the meantime, please visit this webpage forother waysyou an stay involved in the
pari: could be created in the golf course ar,a.Th,
dogpark d—, t have to be square, it could n. Envision Portiownsend Goif Courseand Mountain View Commons)Gty of Portiownsend
run the length of the current golf course property(maybe 20 ft wide) giving dogs a long to run for Washington (cityofptu,).Thanks again for taking the time W send your comments.
re & play.
10/12/2022 matters2",®olyp,n.com Ihave golfed M P.T. Goif Course since l retired m 2010. I am 75 and hIl very act,,, and ha ithy Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
ly due to golf a rid its outdoor exerci e,fi-esh—,,and friendships. I've heard com merits that Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass your comments alongto our planning team. Weh--opeanonai
the goifcourre is exciusiveoniy forgoiI What about th, swim poor Isn't rt only for those that co act for the Goif Course that i,effect,,, through De—be, 2023 a rid we a rein the midst ofpI—mgforthe
86 Iiketo i,and picki,baii courts. Areht they only for those who be to future, both for the Goif Course and M ou-"View Comm ons. We will add your comm ent, m the pia nning
play th7e game,, What a bout the dogpa,,- only for those with 1,911 Theskateboard pari:... process forconsvdeah—In the meantime, please visit this -bp- f,, other ways you an stay involved m the
only forthore who liketo,kat,board?ANDth, PT coursea heaby ha, compatible ores with Its n. Envision Po T—lend Goif Course and Mountain View Commons l Qty of Port Townsend
wonderful r,rtauantopen Weveryone. It has the Kah TaiPame, the Chetzemoka tail and Chief Washington(cityofptu,). Thanks again for taking the time to send y-
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10/12/2022 Nancy Erreca
When 1 was looking at historic phone pf Port Townsend I was surpri„d m see haw few trees
n the golf course land. It looks like it does naw beaure golfers have been planting trees
and taking are of the courre tar 118 years since it was founded in 1904. Please let them
ue for another 118 years. No ane will take as much are as the golfers. These photos are
of the bort but you get the idea. Beaus, the photo links did not came through last weeks I ask
87 that you type” there links without spaces and see If that wort:,. Maybe rt won'book like clink N -t, The photos mil didn't"", through. Thank you for tryingagaln.
to the software. h t t p,'.//photos.app. go o. gi/ 16r C V t T n T sa l p 76 t9 h t tp s'.//
p h o t o s. a p p .goo. g i/ S x F z n x I' y ,'I V r P U 9 Caption on one i,. Jefferson County
Hi--ri Society and the other option i, when course was given to the city, Opening of the Part
Townrend Goif Club 19271.unknown, 2—, Welch, --Bangerter who was the mayor,
4.unknown, S.F.W. Stevens, 6—k—, 7, Mame Starrett, 8. Schuyler Edwards, 9-- H,t,,I,
10. unknown.
When 1 was looking at historic phone pf Port Townsend I was surpri„d m see haw few trees
n the golf course land. It looks like it does naw beaure golfers have been planting trees
and taking are of the courre tar 118 years since it was founded in 1904. Please let them
88 n u, for another 118 years. No one will take a, much are a, the golfers. This format does
ccept
links so to res the phone and enjoy looking at other hismric PT photos go to
https//www.�chsmuuseum.org Resources/online =hpht the ward golf in search box, RI
line second photo, Ffth line third photo Caption on ane Jefferson County Hirtoriai Society
and the other option is when courre was given to the city, Opening of the Port Town send Goif
Club 1927. Lunknown, 2G,org,, Welch, 3.G,o. Bangerter who was the mayor, 4—k—,5.F.W. Stevens, 6—k—,7.Mo,- Starrett, 8. Schuyler Edwards, 9--H,tz,i, 10—k-
10/13/2022 Derek Fame
89 Why not tum the golf course into public housing? Considering the fact that if s a cross the nr„t
fi-om the food bank, Recovery Cate, the Re- Cy,
iery (which is kind enough m offerfree days of
bike repair—'.an")'the Food Coap (a great source of employment), and bu, rtop,. ea,iaily
every amenity aimed at heipingthose in need i, at that I - h- and there's mare than enough
space for both housing and open spaces like pari:, torah community members m enjoy.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain Weha
pia
View Commons. Iwiii pass your quertions alongto our nningtam. ve an opeanonai
act for the Goif Course that i, effect,,, through December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the
future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your com mento m the planning
process for c-,,d,at,-. In the meantime, please visit this webpage tar other ways you an stay involved in the
n'. Envision Portiown„rid Goif Courseand Mountain View Commons I Qty of Port Townsend
Washington (cityofptu,). Thank, again for taking the time W send your comments.
10/13/2022 Dennis Po —i
Thankyou so —h foryouri-put forthis community discussion about the Port Town send Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons. I will pass your quertions along to our pianni-gram. W, have an opeationai
Any new proj,Ct, for the Golf Coors,shoold ),dude night,,, light,g. With wi,tei's shorter act for the Goif Course that is effect,,, through December 2023 and we are i- the midst of planning for the
days upon us again l will stili need W walk my dogsas well as gettingexertse formyseif, 1, future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your com mems m the planning
m ability challenged..-ior.Aiso, I would like W res a newer, ore dogareasadd,d inth, Goif process forconsvdeation. In the meantime, please ,,it this webpage for other ways you an stay involved in the
Course project. Even with the Ch,t —ka dog piihk and the Mountain View dog pari:,Ifl-d that n. En vis ion Portiowns,-d Goif Course and M ou-tai-View Commons) City of Port Townsend
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,:h,esth,re are too many dogsin the run arasto accommodate ail of Portiownrend citizens Washington(Cityofptus).Thanks again fortakingthe timeto send your comments.
well as visitors in a ate manner. Mare smailerareas would be betterto augment the prerent
bigareas. As a m ability challenge disable perm- with a WA issued and H -d rtvery drfiicuit to
rthe larger Mountain View area to pick up after my dogs, know there is an area tar
all dogs and senior dogs but my dogs don't qualify as ,)Ther. In es..rice, there should be
m uitip I,oreas that bath accommodate tar people with di kbiirties and tar rentor cit—ller
as limited m a few dogs would be easier and kf,, for their dogs and make the experience of
having an outing with their pet dog, -k— dog, or service dog m a re e-jo N,.
10/14/2022 Fred Nussbaum email
The 10/12/22 PT Leader lnd—t,d that th,,,st Golf Course-k,hold,i's M„ting is s,tfor
Tuesday October 18, Yet your web site only mentions an 11/15 meeting and no mare G -b,,
meetings. Which is the correct i -formatio-? Are the meetings open W the pubilc and an
ii�embers of the pubilc address the committee at mme parotin the meetings? Far many reasons, The next meetingis indeed tomorrow and 111111111 aur website. The meetings are open to the pubilc, and the
I have been able to participate i- the early nage, of this proj,R, but would very m uch like m be pubilc will be able m comment on the whole proj,R during the open houses that will be planned coming up. In
I -volved going forward. One question l have iswhlh,, there has been any discussion of the addition, we do hk-i, launch on October 25`”, onsite at the Goif Course and M ou-twin View am
project pus,200-
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possib,lay of 1 --mg a small corner of the golf courre property for erecting affordable
housi-g.limag,,, this is probably out of yourara of expertise, but that should not rtop th, id_4 ' DO where you an come and talk directly with the proj,R tam.I am going m note your housing com merit on our
from b,l,gmnsdered. Afterall,I'm pretty sore th,id,a a m, op before, w he, r,purposl,g the ',put Tog and will make note of yourideas. These ideas have come up before, and we will have to see how they
cou as first discussed. Given that both the City and the County declared affordable housing pan out m the process. Thanks so much for yourteres[)
a a prim wry isms and i—g-Ring that the course is a large piece of property that an
a modat, multipleuses,thissh,,Idb,a"no bainei" diswsson topic Tha,kyooforyoor
—at, -
10/15/2022 Dene..Schauer Engage PTThankyou
so m uch foryourinput forthis community discussion about the Port Town send Golf Course and
would love to see the Goff Course green space preserve d. It is an asset for the com,unity i - m Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass your quertions alongto our pianningtam. Wehave an opeationai
many ways. It not,how,v,r,s,rvi-g the majority of people who pay for its up -beep.) walked act for the Goif Course that is effecme through December 2023 and we are m the midst of planning for the
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the golf tour,twice, once during C—D and last winterwh,, it snowed. It is a beautiful walk. It future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your --t, to the planning
makes m e v,y happy to see crosscou-try skiers on it or the cross country runners from the high process for c-„d,at,-. In the meantime, please ,,it this webpage for other ways you an stay involved m the
school.let's havethe Rhody Run on the golf course) lets have the Turkey Troton the golf n. Envision Portiowns,-d Goif Course and M ou-tai- View Commons) City of Port Townsend
rsel People support the area's they k -ow; ,few people know ourgoif course. That is our Washington(cityofptus). Thanks again for taking the time W send yourcomments.
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10/16/2022 Ashiyn Brawn
Thank you so much foryourinput forthis community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons. I will pass your quertions along W our planning team. W, have an ,at—ai
would love to see the golf-- property remain a green space. With 2 flash golf courses act for the Goif Course that is effect,,, through December 2023 and we are m the midst of planning for the
nearby, what if we kept the driving ange and converted the remaining space into family oriented future, bath for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your comments to the planning
t„ity opportunities? Ie. out door games like Horswsho, tan, Bocci, Giant Chess, Minigolf/putt-process for c-„d,at,-. In the meantime, please ,,it this webpage tar other ways you an stay involved m the
putt, Croquet, Fit”" CZ,"/-"ti--ativ, playground, Amphitheater, walking garden paths& n'. Envision Portiowns,-d Golf Course and Mountain View Commons City of Port Townsend
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Pairi, expansion and bh�oards/+pathsfortansitingthe pari: on ft-- wheels. Washington (cityofptus).Thanks again fortakingthe timeto send your comments.
Basically ourown Centai Pari:. Game accessories could be rented or borrowed with a refundable
deposit or minimal/multi level memberships. Ouryouth and youngaduits have so little to do with
friends m this townbesides"party". respect aur local golfers wanting to keep it exclusively asa
golf tour.. (hence keep the dmi-g ange and club house) but it excludes a lot of people when we
have excellent golf— close by. As a "Cental Park" the quality of life here goes up a notchl
Jurt my fantasy but I never go there the way it is. would if it telt mare welcoming and it would
balance Mountain View and Kai Tai in a very c_pilme-ta, way. Thank you.
10/17/2022 Ch -tin, Babb
D City Thank you so much foryourinput forthis community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
CouncilM Pieasekeeptheii-F,Goif Cadoth,,rthe past,, y, ars)
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii Ion tannin W, have ano I
permnaily have conmbuted to the Rhododendron Fertivai and otherfund wirers by donatingto pass your quernonsa gto ourp gram. peationa
'-Ml Iib—d.
the Jim Caldwell Memonai Goitiourname-t as well as other golf tournaments Though) contact for the Goif Course that is effecme through December 2023 a nd we a re in the midst of planning for the
appreciate thatthefuture of the golf course is on the website forth, Ciry of Portiownrend,l future, both for the Goif Course and M ou-ta- View Commons. W, will add yourcomm e-ts to the planning
b,lev,tt would be a good mar-ingid,a to have at Tea rt almk on the Official Tourism Site for process forcons,d,at,-. In the—anthe, please ,,it this —bpage for other ways you an stay involved in the
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conversation'. Envision PortTowns,-d Golf Course and Mountain View Commons City of Port Townsend
Portiownsend, WA It would also be helpfulrfthe hotels, airbnbs,and the Chamberinciude the
Washington(cityofptus). Thanks again for taking the rim e W send your comm e-ts.
golf courre in their brochures (maybe same of them already have, I didn't see references to the
golf courre on the oca—, I stayed in PT). It seems to be a big daw for the other hotels I've
booked online. From California to New Jersey, amain amenity is a onsite or nearby golf course.
Thank you in advance. Pi—, keep the golf course.
10/17/2022 Iniac Umer
Thank you so much for your input for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
The only reasonable use for the golf course,,housing. It ,s an excellent loation formme real
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass your quertions alongto our piann,ngtam. Wehave an opeati-M
densvty,and,s close to servmesatthe Mountain View ampul and transit lines. Even rfdense
actfor the Goif Course that,effect,,, through December 202311d wear,,, the m,dstofpiann,ng for the
h—, gproJec�aren'tlmmedlately,-61e, the cound l should under no d,—'t ,"'tum the
future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. We will add your cum mentsm the planning
golf nurse In to a parkparks are great We have l - of them, and don't need more. We
process forconsvdeation. In the meantime, please visit this webpage for other ways you an stay involved,,the
d„P,at,ly need housing. The golf course could easily accommodate dozens (or mor,)) small
n. --P-T— ..rid Goif Course and Mountain View Commons) Gty of Portiown„rid
apartment buildings and quadpiexes, which would makea real dent,, our housing shorty ge.The
Washington (Cityofptu,).Thank, again fortakingthe timeto sendyourcomm,nt,
landsapingaround such housingwouid make tar much better natuai habitat than the golf
course entiy,s,mthisconcemsshouidb,d,,mi,,,da,th,NIMBY,,- th,yare.
10/18/2022 Cynila Cook
Port Townsend Municipal Goif Course m provide a wider Inge of rervm„while ensuring'
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
functional 4 hole golf and open space —1- -l- of compatible uses would provide
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass your quertions alongto our piann,ngtam. W,hav,anop,rztionai
akt— opportunities too wider a ng, of the community, while protecting the open space and
co act for the Goif Course that,effect,,, through December 2023 and we're,, the midst of planning for the
ecologiai services that a body ben,Ht ev,ryon,.Maintamingth,m pubilc„rvm„will become
future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your --t, m the planning
and m ore important as Port Towmmhd continues W become denser and m ore uU,—,d at
Process for consvd,rztion. In the meantime, please visit this webpage for other ways you an stay involved,,the
buildout A few e—pI,,ofc.pkt,W, —II uses that might wort:,, Port Towmm�d mciude.
c n. Envision Po --..rid Goif Course and Mountain View Com , CIty of Portiown„rid
fns bee or football golf( loaf businesses could donate golf baskets en return for discrete ad
Washington(cityofptu,). Thanks again for taking the time W send yourcomments.
ons); kite fiy,ngfertivais; poaching; archery; Him evenings; concerts; c—,Kountry skiing,
andNordic walking clubs. Other,da. to integrzt, the broader community mc1ud,. local school
golf ciasms, tournam,nt,and after school programs; college classes or,nt,rn,h,p, on damage
and turf management; caddie tamingpr ,— for students(see Caddie Progam
(cam onpoundp.com); and PubikP-Day,(,,, St. Andrews areci, below) W nam e)us[a
few. Many other municipakti„ and regions have revived their ailing golf courses. The Nordic
Council of Governments (Sweden, Denman:, Norway, Finland and Iceland) identified over”
pubilc services m mcorporzt, into their golf worm,, ail while maintaining high quality golf and
pubilc af,ty, In the US, the I,. of pv,mm,nt, that have revived their aging golf courses —
1—Chad— Municipal Golf Course (NC), Belmont Golf Course (Henrico County VA); Winter Pan: 9,
(Winter Pan:, Fl); Sharp Pan:, (San F-1111,, CA), Coria Park Golf Cour: (Torrey Pines CA),
Papago Golf Club Phoenix, AZ); Com m onGround (Denver, CO); Cobb, Creek Golf Course
(Philadelphia, PA), Bobby Jones Goif Courm (Atlanta, GA), Corica Pan: (Alameda, CA), Gi,nway
Goif Pan: (Madison, W 1); Brawn County Goif Courm (Hobart, WI), Arrowhead Goif Courm (Davie,
Fl), and . Many of there provide examples of pubilcpmate partnershipsto support a thriving
golf worm foryars to came. Far mare information, pi,a,, 11,. Scandinavian Turfgra„and
Environmental Research Foundation, February 11, 2011, Multifunctional Golf Course,, An
Und,rutiirz,d Resource. Nordic Council of Ministe, muitifunc[ionai p (courses -
underutlI-d-remurce (sterf.o,g). Derek Duna n. "The revival of there golf Courses Is an
Insplatlon for publlC golf". G,IfDlg,,t, September 16, 2021. Derek Dunan. "11 --,l golf
10/18/2022 Wayne Martn
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HI,I'm thelad pnntingpressopeatorwith printery for 18 years. )flan help with donatingtime
and ,a-akf—hh, cure purecontac[me. Thanks for your consideration
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10/19/2022 Manan Rah
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community dimus,ion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
would love see the golf course retained a, green ,pace/pori:, fully fenced with tail,
t'"'
Mountain View Commons. Iwiii pass your quertions alongto our piann,ngtam. W,hav,anop—t—ai
wand,ringthrough, especiailyata,i ailaround the outride.Thefenceswould be Junto block
act forthe Goif Course that ,effecme through December 2023and wear,,,, the m,dstofpIa—,9 forth,
dogs running out, but -1111 w,IdIff, passfreely, so about 3-1 ft h,gh. It would be a wonderful
future, both for the Goif Course and Mountam View Commons. We will add your cum mentsm the pia nn,ng
pi ace to get a longwabm—h-o dodgingars/b,kes. Would love to,, an expansion of the
orconsvdeation. Inthe meantime, please v,sit this webpage forother waysyou an rtay,nvoived,n the
process f,---ah—
,a,
—gm pane"plot, and a longer Inge pian to l,ttho„ plant, r,populateth, spa -(—y. No
n.Env„ion Portiown„rid Goif Course and Mountain View Commons l Qty of Port Town,end
mar ring, and k-ping—mg to a min,mum, let nature take the place back.A longer-
W-mgton(cityofptu,). Thank, again fo, -mg the time to„rid yourcomments.
Inge plan to plant bene, and native honing tree,. A scattering of benches, picnic tables, maybe
a shelter. In my dream —Id It would aim be an offaa,h dog pan:.
10/19/2022 Maya Horrocks
Thank you so much for your input for this community dimus,ion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
Mountain View Comm on,. Iwiii pas,yourque,tion, alongto ourplannmgteam. Wehave an -,at, ai
act for the Goif Course that,, effecme through D,c,m IS,, 2023 and we are m the -- of pIannmg for the
future, both for the Goif Course and M ountam View Com m ons. W, will add your cum merit, m the pia nn,ng
process fora
c-,,d,,at,-. In the meantime, please v,,,t this webpage tar other way, you n stay mvoiv,d m the
Very,ht,,,.,d m the golf—being a more mciu,iv, space)) May space for kiddo,,food
n. Env,sion ft t To—..rid Goif Course and M ountam View Com mons l Qty of Port Town,end
fares[, affordable housing�lfs so much land and the wayIt„currently umd„m na rrow both,,
Washington(cityofptu,). Thank, again fo, -mg th, time to„rid your cum merits.
reach of people as well a, haw rt an be used
10/20/2022 Barisaa W best
Thankyou so much foryourinput forthi, community discussion about the Port Townsend Gbit Course and
Mountain View C,m—, Iwiii pass your quertions along m bur pianningtam. We have an ,k—M
Seveai years ago the city hada survey asking citizen,m pn—t— theirinterest in I--
actforthe G,if Course that is effective Mr,ugh December2023 and we are in the midrt,f pianningforthe
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pr, j,—Eesvit,showed the golf course held the lea. interertfor Mbse surveyed. What
future, both for the Gbit Cburse and M ountain View Com it ons. We will add your cora it stir, m the planning
happened m that rtudy? The golf course is usuallyempty,f goiters. Discovery say course should
process for consvdeation. In the meantime, piease ,,it Mi, webpage for bther ways you an stay involved in the
be"th"ent fora town MTs size. l suspect mmeinfluentiai people a re goiters and will not allow
n. Envision Porti,wnsend G,if Cburseand Mountain View C,mm,ns Gty ,)Port Towns end
thi, i,, die but Ourpool is outdated and a manly pit A full service I—Id be my
Washington(cityofptu,). Thanks again for taking the time m send yourcbmments.
pIt reference.. The golf course land is �aluabie and wdi take same arefui planning going forward.
10/20/2022 Nancy Erreca
Thankyou so much for yourinput for this community discussion abbot the Port T,wn,end Gbit Cburse and
..— ,d, are de,peatefor,omethingmdb. One comment said you have taken away
Mountain View Cbmmbns. Iwdipa„your quertion, along m bur pianningtam. We have an ope,k—M
everything fun. There ail sound like fun and fortunately they wbuid ail be great,n the Mt.View
act forth, Gbit Cburse that i, effective th—gh December 2023 and we are in the--bf planning for the
ampu,b-- they wbuid ruin the golf'burse. We a re lucky m ha- th. Gb m an been
future, both for the Gbit Cburse and Mountain View C,mm,n,. Wewii add your —ems m the planning
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house at Mt View or walk around the prbperty and see the possibilities. Seems like the fair
p—:,,af:, svdeatibn. In the meantime, piease ,,it Mi, webpage for bther ways you an stay involved in the
gr,undswouid be go od for mm e of these and provide year around revenue.Horse-,hoe mss,
n. Envision Porti,wn,e.d Gbit Cburse and Mountain View Cbmmbns) Qty,f Pbrt Townsend
Bo Giant Chess,Mini-golf/puttputt,Croquet, Ftnees Cauit, innovative playground,
Washington h'ityofptue).Thank, again for taking the time W send your --t,
Amphitheater, bike/haver board,/, paths tbrtansiting the pari: bn alternative wheel,.
10/20/2022 Nancy Erre'a
Thanks you for your'ontinued —ent,. Iwiii make sure they are noted. Thanks.
Gbit course is nota pari: Iti,a business. Imagine city goingm port raying boat haven wbuid make
a great pari: with beach, tails, add pi'ni'tabie,, play area, public bath—, wbuid ay tib.
The goif'ourse was put int, pari: category m be rep —d m aiibw —Ii recreation uses
while nisi having goif,n —tam days. Unfortunately that d,e, not —b, A business has W pay
—t and the course i, an artillery a nge with golf bail, going— mph s, n, goif'an be played ,n
--—hg day, s,n, revenue i,c,H,-d. Perhaps a daily tee per person. It golf'—,, --tPay
rent the dry can use their s,,pl,,,,gopt- meaning they don'twantlt and sell I, Can you
on,' Naw you have ,pen space. Gaiters who are there every day keep the space ,pen
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byekeeping rent paid. There are 21 pari:,, 31 mile, of tail,, Fart W Orden and Hagler. Use Mt.
View or the"Hy""—d'Consl dealt), a mo unt of P, P,,tI,,.' Please let this badness mnttnue.I
hope citizens —0dnot dern,y s—Ihingth, size and beauty ,f goif'ourse. W hen Olympic
with an earthquake you wdi be ah,p hi, there. Piu, the course mumament, give m,ney W
the community benefitting Eh,dy Fe—al, —a—, Elk, Club, High Schaal Erol, Athletic
,mg— , Jefferson C,unty little tea gue, & Sunri,e E,tary Ciub, etc. a,,ptgoit,— and
'ityofptu, tar golf link. Besides losing revenue when people came d,gs, kids and fisbees wdi
land ,n the greens and greens will suffer Frisbee target, need W be put up and taken dawn
when finished beau,, it wbuid be hazard,u, when golf balls ha and ricochet. Piu, people who
have hethey can walk ,n course may came in fi-,m side meet, when goiters are playing and
could get h t by a ball That wbuid be very ad.
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10/21/2022 Sha,l Targe—I,
Thank you s, —h t, you, input for thi unity d--- ab— the Port T,wn,end Gbit Cburse and
My husband and l retired and —,dmP,rti,wn,end in Sep 2021. My husband ha, pffed for
Mountain View C,m—, Iwiii pa„your question, along m our planning team. We have an,pea—M
years and,ne of my goals in retirement was t, Team w play golf s, I'ouid join him. We were
act for the Gbit Cburse that i, effecme th—gh De, 23 and we are in the midst,fpianninn' for the
thrilled w learn that Port i,wn,end had a golf c,—eve,y'onvenientiy bated in town. Better
future, both for the Gbit Cburse and Mountain View C,mm,nsI We will add yourcommentsm the planning
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yet, was the friendly at—phere created by Gabnei T -an and the employee, and volunteers at
pr„e„ t,r"nsvdeatmn. In the meantime piea,ev,,it Mi,—for ah,, way, you an stay involved in the
thecour—It,ok lesson, and we have enjoyed playing golf at the PT'ourse,in'e Ma rch. The
n. Envision Porci,wn,end Gbit Cburse and Mountain View C,mm,n, I Cty,f Port Townsend
loati,nisai,o'onvenient when weinvite friend, for an aft--bf golf and a delicious m eai at
Wa,hingmn h'ityofptu,).Thank, again for taking the time tend you, merit,.
e of the restauam, intown. wa,adde-dm learn this golf course with it, long h, -,in
P -Townsend, might be dern,yEd and'onverted w anther use.
10/22/2022 G—ge Bush
Thank you s, —h for yourinput for thi,"m —ty discussion about the Port T,wn,end Gbit Cburse and
Mountain View C,m—, Iwiii pa„your question, along m our planning team. We have an,peat,-M
act for the Gbit Cburse that i, effective th—gh De, 23 and we are in the midst,f planning for the
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future, both for the Gbit Cburse and Mountain View C,mm,nsI We will add your commentsm the planning
I,-- In the —antim e, please ,,it Mi,—for ah,, way, you an stay involved in the
n'. Envision Porti,wn,end Gbit Cburse and Mountain View C,mm,n, I Qty ,f Port Townsend
Why wbuid we take away an activesp-h,.1f)for passive tail, and anther pari: when there are
Wa,hingmn h'ityofptu,).Thank, again for taking the time W send you, merit,.
beautiful tail, and e—ing pari:, ail ,ver Port T,wn,end and Fart W orden1
10/22/2022 Cathy Beatty
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons. I will pass your quertions along to our planningteam. W, have an opeattonai
The—ginai agreement when the property was turned over w the city was that it would be used
c act for the Golf Course that i,eff,,t,,, through December 2023 a rid we are in the midst of planning for the
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for municipalpurposes, which would includea golf course (it's nota private courseJ, aviation or
future, both for the Golf Course and Mountain View Commons. W, will add your corn mems m the planning
nal purporesI Affordable housingi, not a m unicipa . The pool isa municipal use.
process for consvd—hon. In the meantime, please visit this webpage for other ways you an stay involved in the
Affordable housing could only be used by residents of the housing and th,irvisitors. The other
n. Envision Portiownsend Golf Course and M ountain View Com mons l City of Port Townsend
nal u..sincluding the golf course an potentially be ured by ail residents. ChoosingW
Washington(cityofptu,). Thanks again for taking the time w send your comments.
swima0, golf is a personal choice, but i, open mail residents.
10/23/2022 Andrew C -in—
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons. Iwill pass your quertions alongto our planningteam. Wehave an opeanonal
act for the Gait Course that i, effect,,, through December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the
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future, both for the Golf Course and Mountain View Commons. We will add your comments m the planning
The open spac,in the center of town isa definingchaac[enrti, of our city. The recreational
processforconsvd—hon. In the meantime, please visit this webpage forother waysyou an stay involved in the
be,ofa new aquatic facility and upgaded recreational remuaes would a -the quality of
c n. Envision Portiownsend Golf Courseand Mountain View Commons I City of Port Townsend
lite for many residents, and this could be done at Mountain View. l look forward w this process
Washington(cityofptu,). Thanks again for taking the time w send your comment,
and providing additional teed back as it progresres.
10/24/2022 Janet John,.
Thank you for yourinput on—Landscape Aahttect for the projel. It you go on the webpage forthis effort, you
will find the Request toy QualiNcations for the consultant Thi, i, a high level of criteria we used to relectthe
ma little concern ed on what criteria was ured w ele,t the landsape architectuai firm.Having
Landscape Aif you also click on the September 6, 2022 Council meetinglink, you will learn about the
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wed Groundswell Landscape design website, l sa w that many of the projel lined m
selection P,=,-Theconsuittthat was chos,nwasa ph—pai at a previous firm, and leading m ort of the
illustrate their pro�eRs are riot,,fact, their p,,jepl.Many listed were actually completed by
projel, before he started his own company. This Hrm was unanim ously selected from our panel, and references
other companies with the owner of Groundswell portingas beinginvolved in those projeRs.That
were checked. Ihave every confidence thatthey area great team forthis projeR.
unds pretty shady. And how much was the bid, Piea e make this information mare available
10/24/2022 Ma—Cawrs,
As a senior and ict—ocoTin—ed swimmer,latt- W the remarkable value of the pool w
Thank you so m uch for yourinpum
t for the pool. l will make —e we note it as we tal the planning process.
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my continued health. nfonately Its age and undependable nature area problem. We need a
sai
,w pool facility. That d - w, need a continued use of this pool during conrtr—on, My lite
depends on it.
10/24/2022 Paul Hausmann
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons. I will pass your que,hon, along W our planning team. We have an opeat—
act forth, Gait Course that i, effect,,, through Dec,Tber2023 and we are in the midst of planningforth,
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future, bothforth, Golf Course and Mountain View Commons. We will addyourcoat—tsmth,planning
process for --d—hon. In the meantime, please visit this webpage for other ways you an stay involved m the
coz—h-Envision Po t Tb.c,end Galt Course and Mountain View Common, I City of Port Townsend
Washington (cityofptu,). Thanks again for taking the time W send your comments.
Would very much like w see this property remain a golf co—e.
10/24/2022 Nancy Err,ca
Hi-yWtenday sh..cdthat kavasnofthe best fonnef fore community disc ussion_Grenfed we
hoped to be outside so d wes very crowded end hopefully not a could super spreader They an
out of comment cities half way through Please have the op—hic open hoose at the commons
where there Is plenty of room and everyone can sit at tabes _ Someone asked to have a question
andanswersessia, with the room bot that did not happen_ Instead people lined up to talk with
Chris or David end a few peopl e tried to hes sof Matw said tent Iwa, hand bac Bit
The intent for ye ---day was not w have an open house, buta projel launch, W meet and greet the architects.
w noisy_S.there was no communkytalking to each dherjust people telling one person
The first open house will be set up differenHy W accommodate lirtening m everyone. l am —, about the
what they thought Th. format you used at the fist golf Testing would have been a mu ch better
cards running out, we printed mocha Hwaythrough, and had extra at the end beaus, w,did.That
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because e,,, n. can Tea the questions and answers and say l did not know that or thef isa
good ides, etc d the inteaction between every one grows and you can see direction and even
�'tlment P.
we pro y particu 7 pilose
did missa dew folks in between.This lartormat was ust su dto baa meetand
s Everyonefelfverysefisfied[h�ftheyhed been heerdl knowif ishenderfor you but
greetAnd, the weather dldn'tmopeate. I hope there that were unmmforbble were able t Tunas the Tasks
Yendid augreatjod cel ling on everyone and you have thestamina and abi lity to Tanag, alerge
we provided. Thanksforyourfeedback.
m_ chns and David can answer perticwer questions but m have a real community discussion
we have to hear what everyone is saying and de abs to respond_ I got the impression frog chns
that he wes waifing for the open hoose to get coTTents bot he got sent. yestenday and he
sa,Ted to not have read the comments Dame because he did not know what the kids were
ying they wanted
10/25/2022 Holly Kay,
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons. Iwill pass your quertions alongto our planningteam. We base an opeanonal
co,act for the Galt Course that i, effect,,, through De, 23 and we are in the midst of planning for the
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future, both for the Golf Course and Mountain View Commons. We will add your commentsm the planning
The golf course i, valuable as a golf course and a shared space for everyone. Ideas around
process for consvd—hon. In the meantime, please visit this webpage for other ways you an stay involved m the
gan pingto createa wa gpat ppmprtamt
sch,dulin dlandsa Ikin hfor ail w use ata Imes. Thank
conversanon.Envision Portiownsend Golf Course and Mountain View Commons l City of Port Townsend
you.
Washington (cityofptu,).Thank, again for taking the time W send your comment,.
10/26/2022 David --li
Thankyou so much fbryourinput fbrthi, community discussion about the Port Townsend Gbit Course and
Mountain View Common,. I will pass your q -,,tion, along tb bur pianningteam. W, have an bpeat—i
act for the Gbit Coors, that i, effect,,, through December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the
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future, both for the Gbit Cburse and Mountain View Cbmmbns. W, will add your corn mems m the planning
Preserve and expand the exirting qty porn,, which iso unique remnant of bur p,, bp
process fbrc—de h-, In the meantime, please visit this -bp for other ways you an stay involved in the
land,ap,. M-camas,lomat,-m and oth,rare pam,plant, found at the Port To.n„rid
n. Envision P-Tbwnsend Gbit C-11and Mountain View C-1 l City of Pbrtibwnsend
patri,areq-sly adapted W our Di- ain shadow climate a nd.,Pl dj-,ted for period, of
Washington(citybfpt-,). Thanks again fbrtaking the time W send y—comments.
d raught. They-nidon't require irrigation, and hay.. --ht c-ituai cbnnectibns with local robes.
10/27/2022 Kathleen Hudmn
Goifersiivingcibse by.antt, cbnnnue-,i t Same p,bpl, hav,fbnd membriesassbciated
Thankyou sb much toryourinput fbrthiscbmmunity discussion abbuttheP-Tbwnsend Gbit Cburse and
with the place-Ocasibnai golf fundaisers help tool nonprofits Reasons NOT tb keep the Pi
M buntain View Cbmmbns. Iwill pass your qt, along w bur pianningteam. W, have an bp,anonai
Gbit Cb—, a 9 ibbl,golf,burse...-58 pubiidya.n,d —,—the middle bf PF for ure My by
act for the Gbit Cburse that i,eff,,t,,, through December 2023 a rid wea rein the midst of planning for the
less than l0% of the pbpulatibn- Over a million dbilars needed m bring the course up tba
future, both for the Gbit Cburse and M —h, In View Cbmmbns. W, will add your comments m the pia nning
amble Standard -Water -intensive ure at a time when water availability looks tb be bur
process for --de h-, In the meantime, please visit this webpage for bther ways you an stay involved in the
temiizeruredy This compromise, the watertabie.-Discovery
, n. Envision P-Tbwnsend Gbit Cburse and Mountain View Commons City of Pbrt Tbwn11rid
.y GbciC_'challenge-Isthere
Bay Goif Cburse is 18 holes, been voted best course bn the Diympic Peninsula in 5 of the tart l2
Washington(Citybfpt-,).Thank,again fbrtaking the time W send yourcbmments.
years, and i, bniy 3 miles away Passible Alternative Uses F.Forest. st-hg—ii, growing
large; a --food— food f,— .111 allow tar enhanced food security, better preparing for the
e when aur Ioai f—produce gets claimed by metropbiitan areasW the east; meanwhile.
gardening skills are learned, soli is regeneated, residents came m know mare bf their neighbors,
and volunteers gain the health benefits of getflng their hands dirty. Fbbd Bank I`— and Gardens
should be contacted W ree if they .bold be wiilingm manage such an effort. WalkingTaii,'.
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Mare and mare bf us are realizing the health benefits of walking, but right naw the golf ,burse is
bfflimits. A tail system .bold not My 0— non -goiters same e --e, it may cut dawn a ba on
vehicle miles t—eled. Sometimes a -11 11 a shortcut (p, please don't pave) Hbu,ing. Yes, keep
the golf cburre open space. Manly. e -t the parcel along Blaine (Hole 5) cbuid hold 30 W 40 very
small h—e (200,00 sgftin ,loiters of eight) with very small- and rnii be pri—ly open
space. These h—,,. -Id be awned by the City and rented but tb young talk wanting tb gain a
foothold in this town and willing w live small—,i they can afford a bigger place. A community
c ring of pebpie 65 and bider i, not a resilient community. Dog Part: Depending on.hat
tb happen at Mountain View Cbmmbns, it may be prbpitibue tb move the dog pari: tb the
gth cburre. Venue. The ciubhbuse at the golf course cbuid be put tb use in many passible
cb _t,ben,ficiai ways A chap dayare? An environmental learning center? A rentable
t space? Any of the many things I — not thinking bf? Sorry, goiters. e -t get real. Ybu need
tb be lobbying tb keep ane br two hales, bra driving ange and putting green. Far pactic, and
for teaching Ybu may a dually ucc,edwth thatq-ert e,pecallyf you a re willing tb take
. Comments Jg5 aP 10/28(22
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10/28/2022 Jeffrey Taylor
Thank you sb much fb y— input for thi unity d--- ab— the Pbrt Tb—,end Gbit Cburse and
Mountain View Cbmmbns, 1. 111 pass your q -,,tion, along tb our pianningte— We have an bpeattbnai
act for the Gbit Course that i, effect,,e through December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the
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future, both for the Gbit Course and Mountain Vie. Cbmmbns. We will add your cbm m entsm the planning
.bold like the golf course site m remain an -I, ure site. l think it. -Id be huge cbm —ty
prates, for c.,,deatibn. In the --time, please visit thi,.,bpage for other ways you an stay involved in the
_etsa park, which incl-d,,.aikingt-1,, an arisbretum and nateplant —t—h— —,
n..",ibn P_Tb.n,end Gbit Cburse and Mountain View Cbmmbns l City of Pbrt Tb.n„rid
and of cburre protection of a rid expo.,... of the Kah Tai Paine. Thisa 1,—Id be most-refui on
Washingtbn(citybfpt-,).Thank, again fbrtaking the time W send yourcomments.
the upperrection. cbuid reea disc gth area set -p bn the ib.,r,eliboft h, pari:.
10/30/2022 Fred S
Thankyou sb much for yourinput for this community disc -,elan abbutthe Pbrt Tb—,end Gbit Cburse and
mmioluiz,vmmm M,
Mountain View Cbmmbns. Lill pa„yo-rq-,,tion, along tb our planning team. W, have an bpeatibnai
act for the Gbit Cburse that i, effect,,, through D,c,m ber 2023 and ., are in the midst of planning for the
future, both for the Gbit Cburse and M buntain Vie.Cbmmbns. W, .11i add your comment, m the pia nning
process for—de h-, In the meantime, please visitthi,.,bpage tar other way, you an stay involved in the
n'. Envision Pbrtib.n,end Gbit Cburse and Mb -main View Commons I City of Pbrt Tb.n„rid
play atleasebncea week.ith my m, ItI, great 91111, 1,11 fol lid lite and golf It the Wa shingtbn(citybfpt.-,). Thank, again for taking thetime tb„rid your comments.
,burse ha d m are funding am sure'.bold da. a lot m a re pebpie W play.
What camel Hasn'tP-Tb.n,end 111, enough tr, ut down lately? Just look m the
c, West of Fort Wardent S, —i bidgrb.th treeschav, been mowed dawn. New but bf-
cbntea homes are being built Pretty sad. Pi—, don't ape the golf course tool
Thankyou sb much toryourinput fbrthis community disc -,elan abbutthe P-Tb.n,end Gbit Cburse and
Mountain Vie. Cbmmbns. W, have an bp,atibnalcbntact for the Gbit Cb—, that., effective through
Decem b” 2-
2023 and ., are in the mid' of pianningfbr the future, bath for the Gbit cburre and Mountain Vi—
Cb—
iew
Cbmmbns. W, .,Ii add your cbm meat, tb the pia nning process for—d—t—, In the m-hh-,please visit
thi,w,bpa ge for oth,r.ay, you a n rtay involved in the cbnverrah. Envision Pbrt T, --d Gbit Cburse and
Mb -main View Cbmmbns City of P-Tb.n,end Wa,hingtbn(citybfpt.-,). Tha nks again for taking the Time to
,end your comment,.
11/1/2022 Kellen lynch has been exc1—,dyal.cai golf course. I... this process being served by c,meri the spacein
q -inion arbund odea,[ ane.f the c.nnnu.u,ly,toted -d, the corn moony, and.f the
cbm pr,h,n„.. and rtat,g,c plans.f bur Qty and —My,W hil, there are many issues
ned i, there plans, feelthat ane i, particular stand, but a, a shared value that many
parties cbuid,upp- resilience,., emergency preparedness. Su rely the --t—
this publicly awned space cbuid be centered.. such a common need. F.c--g.n—
p—d—, ,
m,rgpreparedness,, already p-bf the locicult—r fJeff,rs.n County with bur AH County P,—,
.ng r„p.nre t. C"1 19, and aur remote and rural l-- hereon the Olympic
Penin sofa. Given that the property in querti.n Tsai,. near th, —ter.f Pbrt T,— rid, adjacent
ur l.ai Red Crass, Police Stat_ and dawn the hili tram the Fre Department it i, p.,,t,.n,d
sou pp -the community quit well. Pac[,aily, this vision cbuid g. many directions, but in
b-, t, appease the ad -- bf the golf course', _'t ng"bp_ green space" and meet the
-d, aur broader cbm m-nity, wbuid lugger[ keeping the resilience addition, f --d. Key
117 aspects that ".1d be pursued include perennial f..d pr.duc[i.n, water h—. and stag,,
,gyg....z,.n, arida gath,ring place. F..d pr.duc[i.n. am not suggesting 't -mg new
f— (yet) - this land, but cons --g the pl-tmg.f trust and nut trees, a foal toren, that does
require the same needs as annual craps. This region can grow a wide variety .1f—t,
-Ic d"gapples,pears,fig” plums a rid nut trees including hazelnut and ch—t. Thereare
many growers.. this Peninsula who cbuid inform .r lead such a, eff.. Water It—.and
Stag,. Wh-n maj.,—hq-oke rtrik,, this region, we will be lucky t. vo,d waterline
d„ ,option and damage. W here will bur water came tram m this vend W oris battles serve an
immediate need, but we must c -,,d,, medium term .M— that take advantage .f wateras
bur greaten natuai resource. Wean harvert and stare water.nsIt, m cirtems, below., above
ground gad,. Why not includean iconic water tower forth,, iconict 0It an becampaint
.f pride and imagery for this place. Energy G,n,rat,- Similar t. water, aur energy I,= will
be ma —dy disrupted d- mga major earthquake. Where will loaf people g. t gatherm a place
that has light a rid .—thy Where will p,.pi, g. t. even charge their p—,? W, are woefully
Th-kyou so —h f.ryourin tforth,, community discussion about the Port Town send Gbit Course and
M—t—View C.m—, W, have a n.p,at—. c.mact for the Gbit Curs, that,, effective thrbugh
D... tb,, 2023 and we are in the midst .f planning for the future, bath for the Gbit C.urre and M—t— View
Cbmmbns. W, will add your --t, t. the planning proress f,, —d—t— In the meantime, please visit
th„w,bpag,for.th,r waysyou— nay involved in the c.nv—t— Envision Port T, --d Gbit Cburse and
Mountain View Cbmmbns I Qty.f P- Tb— ... d Wa-gt-(c,ty.fpt-,). Thanks again for Taking the t— t,
,end your --t,
11/1/2022 Emmet W.if, engage
Thank you s. —h for yourinput for th„ cbm —ty disc-s—abbot th, Pbrt Tb—..rid Gbit Cburse and
Please seriously""ddler s ,, giftmg, ansa —mg th, property t th, Jam--mb,, who
Mountain View C --W, have a n.p,at—. contactforth, Gbit Cb—, that,, effective thrbugh
have th, expert„, and business acumen t. mak, th, course into a successful venture.Th,
December 2023 and we are in th, midn.f planning for th,future, both for th, Gbit C.urre and Mountain View
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Jam --tribe has experience in developing a rid managing a successful golf c,—,(Cedars at
Cbmmbns. W, will add your --t, W th, planning process f,, —d—t— In th, meantime, please visit
Dungeness-west.f P. T -111d). https//—darn.cam/golf/ The mb, might aisb-re it
P -T, --d Gbit Cb—,,dand
th„ .&p for bth,r ways you a n nay involved in th,c—n
-at,”'tars and locals abbot their g,n,rati.nsand culture here before European,—,—,
:ty.n......n
Mountain View C-1 l Qty.fP-Tb—...d Wash-tri(city.fpr-,). Thank, again f.,-mgth, t— t,
Thank, tar listening,
send your --t,
11/1/2022 Catherine er.-P engage
Sb few pam„remain in th, P ...... I,, Pi are preserve th, treasure that 1,11 exirts.n this
Thank you s. much for yourinput for thiscbm,,,,tydiscus„rt .. a bout th, PbT1111111 G.if C11111 and
property. Once th,porn,, are w,p,d—,, they will never return.
Mountain View Common. W, have 11 1p,at, lftlntrect for the Gbit Cb—, that,, effective thrbugh
D... tb,r 2023 and we are in the midrt .f pianningf.rthe future, bath forth, Gbit C.urre and Mountain View
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Cb—,. W, will add your cbm mem, t. the pian process forc—d—t—In the m—time, please visit
th„ w,bpa g, f.r.th,r ways you an nay involved in th, --t Port T, --d Gbit Cburse and
M ountain View C—t-11 Qty .f P- Tb— „rid Wa,hi —(c,ty.fpt.-,). Tha nks again f., -mg th, Time t.
„-ay r,.mm,-t,.
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11/4/2022 S.nja M -t It--
Thank you s. much t., y— input forth, unity disc - -.about th, Port Tb—..rid Gbit Cburse and
Ith,nka p--bf th, golf c. -r, cbuid remain golf+elated(p-tong gree.&/.r dining—g,)
M. -main View Common. W, have a n.p,at—. contact for the Gbit Curs, that,, effective thr.-gh
but the land i, t. M -N, t. stay bl,ly a golf c.urs, especially given that we a irady have
December 2023 and we are in th, midn.f pianning for th,future, both for th, Gbit C.-rre and M. -main View
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anothergolf c,—,— were a small community. Gbit courses a -p-- t, maintainand
Com m on. W, will add your c.-t,t.th, pianning process f,, —d—t— In th,meantime, please visit
require I It chem,ai inp-t,. And WATER which we d- t have excess.f in Port T.wn,end
th„w,bpag,f.r.th,rway,yo-an nay involved in th,c.nv—tion. Envision Port T, --d Gbit Cburseand
part,c-lariy c_,id—rig th, paper mill req -,res a great deal t t-nc[—There a re s.—y.th,r
M. -main Vi,. C.mm Qty.fP- Tb— ... dWa-gtn(c,ty.tpt-,). Thank, again f., -mg th, t— t,
m -in--„ pr.,p,ct, for th, golf c.urs, that wbuid servea greater percentag,.f th, popular,.,send
your comments.
11/4/2022 Heather Mircak
Tho nk you s. much tory.-,input for th„c,mmunity disc -s,,.. about th, Port T-11111 Gbit Cburseand
support sh t"th, golf course t. a green space/pari: with tails,,.-rt,a bp,n 9111,1 ac,
M. -main View Common. W, have an.p,at,.nai c__t for th, Gbit Curs, that,, effective thr.-gh
form fth, community to u,,.Ic.-id...... --area that iso piaygr.-rid... a n area with
December 2023 and we are in th, midn.fpi--gf.rth,futu,,, both forth, Gbit C.-rre and M. -main View
m,th,,g like teth,rbMl, basketball,.—int- volleyball court, and th- bp,n,pac, for
Common. W, will add yo -scorn -tit. th, pianning process f.rc.n„dent,.,. In th, meantime, plea„visit
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pirnicsand tree piay.l suggert walking tail,, bath—,and maybe a to --for use in th,
th„w,bpag,f.r.th,rway,yo- a n nay involved in the c.nverrati.n. Envision Port T, --d Gbit Curs, and
�,,(when waterieveis 0—)that pebpie can run thr.-gh and play -1 .-Id like t. res
M. -main Vi,w C.m 1IClty.f P- Tb— „ridWa-gtn(c,ty.fpt.-,). Thanksag—f., -mg th, t— t,
quet spaces"with benchesand gard—for reading., b—gpa Oe L l .-Id like t,,, a few
,end your corn merit,.
n uni table, with chess boards i,th—t,p—t, that typ,.f thinking and free play a, w,ii.l
wbuid like rt t. at,rt a —g, .f age,.
11/6/2022 Cynthia Mbrzimn
Thankyou so -h fbryour,l tfbrthi, community discussion about the Port Town send Gbit Course and
Moulton View Comma We have an bpeati l'bl t for to Gbit Course that ,effective through
December 2023 and we are,1 to raids[ of planning for the future, bath for the Gbit Courre and Moulton View
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Cbmmbns. We will add your coin mems tb the planning process for'b1„deatibl. In the meantime, piease visit
TheOpen Green Spacer„whatmakes 1 -T -1111d sb iivabie.The"pond"iso refuge for
this -bp for other ways you a n yinvolved,) the'blveratibl. Envision Port Tbwnreld Gbit Cb—,and
w,idiff,h,,hg the Gbit Course fbranything other than Open Green Space wbuid be a--ty. It
Mbulta View Commons) city of P-Tbwnsend Washington('ityofpt u,). Tho nk, again for taking the nm em
wbuid a violate the Deed. Please don't ch op up the Gbit Cburse. Thank you.
send your comments.
11/8/2022 Nancy ET—
Hi -the pr..nt,ho for the Nativ. Ara.,an H.ritag. Month w v yT.,ing_They spoke about
Hl Nancy. Thanks sb much fbryourema,.Iwiii make -ea gets on the logand the tam --t. Thanksaga,n.
their camp being et M.mariel Feld At the lest stakeholder committee m.1hg far the golf course
end Mt View the stake haldlers were asked to tell a personal story err meaning about the golf
urse The two tubal represeptaeves spoke about how very impoh,,t end m...hgf,l the golf
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eos. pmpehy was t. them, th.irfamill., end tube_ They said d was a very specieI piece of land
d fr.m the hiu there you cap ,till see the path where their boats were moved from the camp at
Memorial Fie,d,p end dawn the hiu t. golf coarse pr.p.hy_
This property I, still that specieI place beta,,. of golfers taking care of It for 118 years Please
l.t them contra,._ The golf c.,rs. does pot need another pu'pa'e_ IC, current p,rpo,..f taking
tar..f the property and the open spat. I, pwp......gh_ Thank y.s
11/7/2022 Sue Lang
Thank you sb much toryourinput torthis community discussion abbot the Pbrtiownsend Goif Cburse and
support Hnd,nga sbiutibnm enhance the golf cburre and improve 'gand outreach.)
Mountain View Cbmmbns. We havean bpeati l contact for to Gbit Cburse that,, effective thrbugh
have ured the cburseand 1111,191119,11 the 90', a rad early 2000,. My father wa,a PGA pro for
M...tber20'2'3and we are in to raid. of planning for the future, both for the Gbit Course and Mountain View
60 years and always playedfere when he visited Pi. H e and my mother chose,[ over Chevy
Cbmmbns. We w,ii add your cbm mems w the pia n hg prates, for cdeati In the meantime, please visit
Chase and were treated like rack stars when thby,igned,l. hope tb have the bpp_rt tyw use
this webpage tar other way, you an tay,nloived,n the'blveratibn. Ent „ion Pbrt T,w ehd Gbit Cburse and
th,'b eel to future and have p—i-a natd my desire tb go hit bail,. l think a taibetii,
Moulton View Cbmmbns)City of P-Tbwn,end Wa,hilgtol(Citybfptu,). Thank, again for taking the nm,t
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n a,,d abilitytbu,e rental club, l wbuid jump ba'k,n.laisb took a be or two, but of
send your comments.
cbursen raid my father the pro.lwa, perplexed reading the pian when l read the
endatibn tb rem ave the rocks Sea rch 250 Mad,,. Street P- Townsend WA 98368
Phone (360) 3853000 Hbme Dashboard SitemapI ingout Web-0Employee I Linking
Polirywh,ch love. Paved art path— quertiblabie need, I hope that ram e creative plan can
develop Wkeep 9 hale„matt and-- ine enthusiasm tb play goif,n town and perhapsshare
space. Develop the Southwest corner bff San hiPreserve Kah Ta, p,a e. Iv,sit bften,n
. INew1-Alhbnts 115 aP 10/20`22
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11/9/2022 Trevor Ward
Thank you sb -h fb y )put for thi u ty disco n abbot the Pbrt Townsend Gbit Cburse and
Moulton View C- We have an bpeati lf,,,ta't for to Gbit Cburse that,, effective thrbugh
Decem ber 2023 and we are,, to raid. of piann,ngfbrthe future, bath for the Gbit Course and Moulton View
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Cbmmbns. Wew,ii add your -,ht, w the planning prates, for cb deati In the m eantime, please visit
Igoifed that course since I w alittle kid v„inng my gandparelt, and family. l db not live
thi,webpag, for bther way, you a n nat,n,bly in thecbnveratibn. Envision P-T,w ehd Gbit Cburse and
yW play. Wid be a shame
and Pi any more, but every time) go back I tale an eff-W trbu
Moulton View Cbmm (City of Pbrtibwn,end Wa,hilgtol('ityofptu,J. Thank, again fb al,,ngthe nm,t
w lore that facility a„tis really nice tb have something green and recreatibnai right in the cil
endyour comments.
11/10/2022 Sander Stowell
Thankyou sb much fbryourinput fbrthi,'bm tydiscussion abbot the Pbrtiownsend Goif Cburse and
Moulton View C-- We have arab i-atiblal c, tactfb, to Goif Cburse that,, effective thrbugh
hove burgreen spaces and w,idiffe park„.side the City, a rad l am a d that the Gbit Cburse fan,
Decem ber 2023 and we are,n to raid. of planning for the future, both for the Gbit Course and M bunta,n View
fd'eati
sing"gree,,pa'e''a m ilea ding argum ant W pr t, continued use bf city property for
Cbmmbns. We w,ii add your cbm melt, w the pia n ng prates, for In the meantime, please visit
golfers ally. My bl roan tb the current golf course rt, m, from the fact that m e,y few Pi
thi, webpa g, for bther way, you a n tay,nloived,n the cb il,,atyb th1„ ,Pbrt T,w ehd Gbit Cburse and
esident, can e1jby this large pubil'awned prbperty,—de City limit,. The entire property except
M -into- View Cbmmbns City of P-Tbwn,end Wa,h,ngtb,(cityofptu,). Thank, again for taking theninetb
the d', w and parking lot„clearly taibed a,bffI—I W anyone not playing gait. And th,,,
send your comments.
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in effect 24/7. Perhaps there are way, to retain mart of the property a ,bm,what liable g.ff
Ma,
se, butW aisb pi --de access w the other 98% of City residents. aybe the course an be
redesigned with weik,ngta,i, that wbuid be open afterfiburs and bra 23 day, midweek w n
goiters. Andperhaps the pond area that,, -h-tar.0diffe'buid be ta,nta ,, and enhanced
withaviewing boardwalk tar b,rd watchers. Although this,, t—toned a, a,bm,what
orally friendly goif'burse, and yes, ga„ IS green, mart of this property„ NOT a 11th
w,idirfe habit.It""'be wasama,,ngl,lp11o11tythe roughs and tickets wbuid be t—toned
with mare diverre plants, and,nvasive species wbuid be better cbntroiled.
11/10/2022 Katie
Iwbuid lover wean aquati"eltrand Walk,hgpark wit pavedta,i,.
Thankyou sb m u'hfbryour, tfbrthi„bin ty discus, ab—the Pb Tbwn,end Gbit Cburse and
Mountain View Cbmmbns. We have an bpeati lf,,,ta't for to Gbit Cburse that,, effective thrbugh
Deceber 2023 and we are,, to raid. of piann,ngfbrthe future, bath for the Gbit Course and Moulton View
m
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Cbmmbns. Wew,ii add your ,ht, w the planning prates, for cb deati In the —anti—, please visit
this webpage for other way, you an tay,nloived,n the c -,,,,at.. th.,sibn Pbrt T,w ehd Gbit Cburse and
Mountain View Cbmmbns City of P-Tbwn,end Wa,hingtbn('ityofptu,). Thanks again for taking the nine to
send your'bm melt,.
11/10/2022 Sander Stowell
Thankyou so much f.ryo.ri-p.t f.rthi, community discussion about the Port Townsend G.if Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have an.peati.-ai contact for the G.if Course than, effective through
December 2023 and we are i- the midst of planning for the future, bath for the G.if C..rm and Mountain View
What about shai-g the property?! —sad m see that Tool fans of the PF golf course choose m Commons. We will add yo.rc.mme-t, to the pia —hg process for c. -,ideate.-. In the,t —h—,please visit
I,— ote the idea that.nIy a Goif Course=Green Space.They - ply that th.m.f us wh. wa ht this webpa ge for other ways you an tky involved i- the c.nversati.n. Envision Port T.wnm-d Goif Course and
o the property are opposed w green space. This i, false. My.bjecti. -W this golf course M.. -ti- View Com mons City of P.rti.wn... dWa,hi-gtnjcity.fpt k, u,). Tho nagain for taking the timew
t.wned
.ncGtyproperty i, that it offers NG access tar— 9.11 The — of us are tre,pa,mrs Ifsend your comments.
ret foot off the dmeway and parking lot Haw many Port Townsend residents and visitors
play golf here? What if the property was open m everyone dailybefore TOP, and ail dayiue,day-
Th.rsday? With golf on 4 day weekends? Additional paths could be defined tar ge-eai um If the
greens need to be .ffaim rt, to protect the gals. This would not be difficult It would enhance the
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facility tar everyone if accessible - were c -.,h ,d alongside the pale and at the
pond. Designed properly these would protect the pond wiidirfe, add an excellent place tar
r nal and bird watching. Again not difficult if therea ie Port T.wnm-d area residents who
— to play golf here, shared use could be a pretty decentc—p,—i,e. And about that green
spare. yes gas, i, green. eat we ail know that closely mowed gas, offers little sustenance or
variety tar wiidirfe. The pond and the thickets offer mme decent wiidirfe habitat, but it should be
much better. Even golf,.arse managed wah.utt.xic chemical i, nota rich wiidirfe habitat.
The mart e-lira-me-tily fee-diy golf course, -prove the thicket, for wiidirfe by pia nflng more
Ted plant, (biodiversity!), ,..trading i -valve plants, etc. That doe, not happen here. With
aced access andu,e, the property might find more volunteer donors and helpers for
project,. It would be hbulous m have mare people enjoying the property and mare curt.mers
for the cafe!
11/12/2022 Nancy Easter
Afrie-dju,t had a great idea, if you want to walk on the golf,.-rse go W Goodwill or online and
geta used or new golf bag, a golf club or two and a golf ball or two. Then pay your greens tee and
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wa ik the,.arse. You an hit a bail or no t. Piay i -a— III --el, A,i-gle person can usually I received the two col lents you sent Tart week and have put them i -the log.Thank,.
play 9 hales i- a couple of hours. It a nice three mile walk. W ho knows you might want to take
lesson.
11/12/2022 Nancy Easter
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Good news this week about the Fairground, and their new manager Dany MCE-erny who is
finally making use of the Fairground,by.pe-inga,kating ink. Just think about aiith.se
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Ireceived the two comments tart week and have hem i -the to Thank,.
buildings and ail the land thata, he skid'ju,t it and rot away.' Ali the things the kid, are wanting you sent putt g.
could have space and a leader who can get it done. His attitude of not making it ,.,plicated or
'fancy' but home grown i, very refreshing. C.-gatulati.-, on a great start!
11/12/2022 Jeremiah Fountain
I've lived in Port Townsend my entire lite. My friend, and l u, ed W Wake up atsunise i- high Thank you so m. ch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
school to go play golf at PFGC, and whenever theycam e back W Port Townsend, it i, where we Mountain View Commons. We have an.peati.-ai contact for the Goif Course than, effective through
ail m set up again for golf,laughter, and i,
ftI'm a m ember at the course, l December 2023 and we are i -the mid. of planning for the future, both for the GbhC..rse and Mountain View
participate i-fuhkia i-gt.umaments, commertai league, and spend many hours on the diving Commons. We will add your —,ht— the planning process for—delh— In the --h—, piea,ev-
ange, or playing a quick round of 9.Ihavea6-yearaid,.- that begs m e on thewe,ke-d,m go thi,webpag,f.r.therwaysy-an rtay involved i-thec.-verrati.n. Envision Port T.wnm-d Goif Course and
o the gth course. We usually hit a bucket of ange bail,, then get a art and play 9 holes Mountain View Commons l City of P.rte.wn,e-dWa,hi-gtn(city.f). Thank, again for taking the t—w
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t. gether.H,ab,.lutely LOVES it, and so do 1. The smile on face while we dme the al, eat ,end y_commerits.
nock, and laugh ar nt,I cis h, and will hold dears m he-f.rever. PFGCi, part of
the communithe ty, and subculture that partpates in its beauty l.vesand enjoy, it. They
volunteer their time m take are .f it and are loyal t it. Goif i,a game fora lifetime, and hope
to be able to play Itfar the cert of my, lite, with my son, here i- Port T.wnm-d,
11/13/2022 Lyn Hersey
Thankyou so much for yourinput for this community dimus,i.-about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
have rerved a,Parks&Rei Commissioner dui -g the development of our City Comprehensive M ... tin View Commons. We have an pelt—al contact for the Goif Course than, effective through
pIan.lai,. rerved a,a Planning C.mmissi.ner here i,PT, Ih.pe you take int. c.nsvdeati.n a ii December 2023 and we are i -the -dn.f pianni-gf.rthefut.re,b.thf.r the G.if C..rse and M.. -tam Vi—
t hen.npr.fRs that ure the golf c.urre t. wise m.ney f.rtheir.rga ah -,. A, a inauguai and C-- We will add yo.r--ht, t. the planning prates, for—delh— In the meantime, please visit
S year bard m ember far the Y,.-e.f.ur tajarfundal,,, wa,..r golf t.urname-t. Th—this webpage f.r.therway, you an rtay involved i, the c.--ati.n. Envisi.n Port T,—ehd G.if C..rse and
fund, were u,edf.rmh.laahip,f.rIb. I --kid, pr.gam,. Every weekend dui-g,.mmer M_tam View C— -, City .fP.rte.wn,e-dWa,hi-gtn(city.fpt.,). Thank, again for taking the t—w
.nth, are dedicated t. n.npr.fit t.urna--t,. The l.,e.f the golf curse will affect ease—ly send your,.,lents.
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eed,.uae, for fu -dais, -g. My sec -dream - far mpp hng the golf curse i, -i.r health
and recreat—al usage. Our h.,pitai bard ha, aiway,,.pp - ail activities at the golf curse
t. help preventive medical health care. Last, the s-1 golf teams fr.m P.rti.wnre-d and
Chimacum use this curse. Thelessees, as wellas,ev.. clubs, help t. wise fundstar
,ch.laahip, f.rthese kids t. go t, allege. k -.w that many kids have gone. -t. ,allege with
part and full ride ,ch.lai hip, beau, they teamed t. play golf at aur city golf, --This ties
ight back int. , first ream- t. keep the golf,.arse. The golf,.arse, a, it is naw, is a vital part
.f aur cam moony.
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11/18/2022 Steve Hampton Thank you so much foryourinput forthis community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
This parcel includes Sentinel 1-1,a histo... site where Ch.tmmoka signaled to the white Mountain View Commons. W. have 111p.ationai.onta.t for M. Goff Course Matic effective through
pioneers that they would not fight for Melaid,Th.S' Ki adorn are now spilt into three bands(Port December 2023 and we are in th midrt of pianningforthe future, both for the Goff Courm and Mountain Vi—
W, — —h,
iewbis,Jame—h, and lnw.r Eiwha), ail Mere of which consider P -T— ... d(gaty)an Commons. W. will add your-- ht. W the planning process fit, —d—t— In the meantime, please visit
--ht partof Meir h.ritg..l.ugg.rt that ail three b, --d fit, n ton creating this webpage ft, th,ways you m n rtay involved,, th, conversation. Envision Port Towmmhd Goff Courseand
appropriate cuituai hirtry information(b..id..jurt honoring Meir surrender) as well as access Mountain View Commons l City of P-Town...dWa.hingtn(.ityofptu.). Thanks again for taking the timet
W and partnership in shared public meeting spaces. send your.om meats.
11/20/2022 Nancy Err.,a As far as what activities to keep th.answeris ail that are here now. In a small town thea are I have noted yournew--ht. Nan,. Thank you.
only a few people far every sport. A few like t swim, a few t golf, a few play pickle ball. We
137 need all the venues. you c,n'l g,t rid of the pool because fewer people use than play pickle ball.
Two loci high ..hoof. joined t snake ane football team in order to have enough players This is
not Seattle.
11/20/2022 Na-ry Err.,a I have noted your new --ht. Nan,. Thank you.
As far as n..dinga place to walk within 10 minutes of where you live that may be a problem in
138 Seattle but everywhere i, Port Towmmhd you con just step out of your home and be waIk,hgin
beautiful id,,, g, W e do not always require tansportation Junta walk. Maybe if we want
W walk at Fart Fiagl.r or Kah Tai or on a beach.
11/23/2022 Jamie Ei.bury
min favor of repurposing th, goff.ours. a,a pubilc pari: that rerves the —,al public. Why
139 singtx dollars t subsidae a wasteful, —a-alenvironment that rerves only a few?
lets create a beautiful open space with facilities open t ail. Turn it into a showplace and
d.monrtation pro�eR tar perznacukure design featuring native plants and facilities that support
community resilience. Jogging tail.! Community gardens and orchards! Surtinabihty dassesI
11/23/2022 bJ—d-ald
low ct housing. open green spaces. so few golf players? why cove a near dead horse
11/22/2022 Bili Bertsch ar
would like t see at the very least the guff course property remain city awned green space
either continuing a, a pmrat.ly run municipal goff.ourm or pubilc access nature pari: with
ing
walkpaths and a small area tar outdoor recreation (swing mt.and play area) and adjoining
141 picnic area. It the area remains a golf course, would like to see after hours pubilc access for
waikingand nature observation during daylight hours. This i. very common on gaff courses in
Europe. I do not wantW see this land cold tar c ---al development to include housing it,
the city develop or partner with any other entity tar such purposes. Ideally if nota gofl.ours,
then green space such a. the Quim land C—,— with the addition at a playground and picnic
area would greatly enhance and —phht— the quality of if, of ur ruai community
11/23/2022 Nancy Err.,a
The th rea yeas.onto.t you gave the goff.ourse war the mm, three y—, a, —d so...none
and e...ythingin town was affected and itis not a realist,, picture of haw p fiftabie the course
an be. Naw that David Hein i. reviewing the Fl—dareport you will man... that it had
problem. and .v.rything.an be done far so much less and same of it not done at all b-- it x
un . Th.reporc mid to.over the bigro.k.-th—iso the, aurse would look mare
appealing. W.ii thorn racks are glacial _at"' which are boulders the glacier drop. off a. it roti.
on by. Save $6,000 right there. W, think the rock. a re wonderful and corn show gaffers have
managed to play around them tar aver 100 years. Pius you fixed the well and did other thing,
e, these three years as did the players dab w,th landscaping work probably saving the
$41,000 cart of free and ground. wort: outlined i, the report. So there i. no need for the courm
to go away for your reason that it was too-pens—and eve thing people want. an go at Mt.
View, Kah Tal, or some of the dc,/s,ons,d.abl. property and probably a maple of thl ng, will be
,ompa0bl. wl th the course as —sore you don'twantItt shot down very m uch so they lore
.nue which affects whatth.y pay the city. Golf balls can go 160 roll,, an hour so you can't
have people jun wandering around. The goff.ours. i. ane of the mart histo.., properties i, town
Jost l ike the the Rothchild ho ase and others. cis living h,stry. The dNs own histo,,,
p,emrvation committee ha, a mandate to ,sitars hirto... property and I would my the guff
e is a 10 in that 'at
please do not d-- th, guff courm. let the gaffers continue to
take care of this open space.
Thank you so much for yourinput for thi..om —ty discussion about the Port Town send Gaff Course and
Mountain View Commons. W. have a, pati I,,,taft for M. Goff Course Matic effective through
D... tber 2023 and we are in the midrt of PI 'th,
future, bath for the Gaff Courm and Mountain View
Commons. W. will add your,ht.to the planning process for c-,,d,at,-. In the meantime, plea-
-thiswebpageforotherway,youcon tay involved in theconversation. Envision Port Towmmhd Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons I City of P -T— ... d W ashingtn (cityofptu.). Thanks again fortk,ngth, time t
end your comments.
Thank you so much foryourinput forthis community discussion about the Port Townsend Gaff Course and
Mountain View Commons. W. have an opeationai contact for the Goff Course Matic effective through
m
Deceber 2023 and we are in the cold. of planning for the future, bath for the Gaff Courm and Mountain Vi—
C,,—
iew
Commons. W. will add your --ht. to the planning process for c-,,d,at,-. In the meantime, please visit
this webpage for other ways you con tay involved i, the conversation En vis ion Port Towmmhd Goff Course and
Mountain View Commons I City of P -T— ... d --g— (.ityofptu.). Thanks again for taking the time t
end your comments.
Thank you so much foryourinput forthis community discussion about the Portiownsend Goff Course and
Mountain View Commons. W. have an op.ationai contact for the Goff Course that,, effective through
December 2023 and we are, the cold. of planning for the future, bath for the Gaff Courm and Mountain View
Commons. W. will add your --ht. W the planning process for c-,,d,at,-. In the meantime, please visit
this webpage fit,t sway. you con tay involved i, the conversation Envision Port Towmmhd Goff Course nd
Mountain View Commons City of P -T— ... d Washingtn(.ityofptu.). Thanks again for taking the timeat
send your.om merits.
Thanks for your.om meats Na-, I have added them to th, meat log.
. Mew tstm gnxs as ti}P 11f27/2� .,
11/27/2022 Nancy Err'ca Thanks foryour comm tits Nancy. I have added them to the comment log
For the r'purpl—g prod act of Mt. View and golf course we have naw been told we have to pick
which activities we we tit to keep. As faro s what ac ,t— m keep the i, a., i, ii that are here
143w. In a sma ii town Mere are only a few people tar every sport A few like to swim, a few m
golf, a few play p, drle ball. We need all the venues. You an't get rid of the pool be—,e fewer
people use than play pickle all
Two loci high schools joined to make on'footbaii team in order
to have enough players. Thisis not Seattle.
11/28/2022 Owen Fairbank
144 1 think Mata combination of use as opee space, agriculture, and affordable housing would
provide the greaten community benefit from this wonderful City property. Nothing against
golfers, but. golf course doesn't provide broad community benefit, orincrease affordable
housieg or food security, and le t even accessible m nae -golfers.
11/29/2022 Nancy Erreca Hi -I gate copy of the plan_ Since we know the Florida report is being reviewed M1would bee
disservice to the city end the course to leave the golf course paragraphs es Is end approve the
145 plop_ I cep point oat partculars like the city hes dope work epic Players Olub hes dope work, etc
butyou know them_ The easiest way if you have to approve before the he, report is -L,,ct
delete ell the text end say Update to came I, spring of 2023_
That way the at of the report Is —be end yap cep update wth correct text far the tubae when
toport Is ready end maybe even Mm the outcome before ppdati,g_
11/8/2022 Nancy Eoi—
HI -the preren,tion forth. Native Amman Herta ge Month was very moving. They spoke
about their camp beingat Memoeai Field. At Me last rtakehoider committee meetingforthe golf
and Mt View the stake hoidi'rs were asked to tell a p'rs—i nary or maninga bout the
golf courre. The two tebai representatives spoke about haw very important and meaningful the
146 golf courre Pill, erty was to Mem, their families and robe. They aid it was a very special piece of
landa nd tram the hili Mere you an hil see the path where their boats were moved from the
amp atMI—Ii, i Field up and dawn the hill m golf course property. This property is stili that
special place beau.. of golfers taking care of tt for 118 years. Please let Mem coetinue. The golf
se does not need another purpose. Irl current purpose of taking are of the property and
the opee space is purpose enough.Thankyou
Thank you so much fl, yourinput forthis community discussion about the Part Townsend Goif Course and
Mouetain View Commons. W'havean op'ationaicontract for M' Goif Course Mat
i, effective through
D... tbar 2023 and we are in the mid.
of pianningforthe future, bath for the Goif courre and Mouetain View
Commons. W' will add your commentsto the planning process for consid'ation. In the meantime, pi-
--this webpage for other waysyou a n nay involved in the conversation. Envision Part T—a-d Goif Course and
Mouetain View Commons City of act iowns'.d Washingmn(otyofpt.a). Thanksagain for,kingth' time to
send your cam mems.
Th-k,for The ,ugge,t-Norval am noun. po„t- to re,,ve,t hl,to,. The NGF report,, what,[,,. It exl,G, th
Thanks foryour —ems to C-coi Ni, y I have added them to thefull to g of comments.
11/29/2022 Gabe'li' Vanwert
Thank you so much foryour input forthis community discussion about the Portiowns'.d Goif Course and
Mouetain View Commons. W'have an op'ationai contact for the Goif Course Mati, effective through
H'lio.l would ioveto see the golf course tamed into i, green space Matis more accessible by December 2023 and we are in the cold. of pianningfor thefuture, both for the Goif Courre and Mouetain View
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re people. We are,gopep,p.ce,,o whl le we need hoos,ng l don't think that,, the Commons. W' will add your comments to the planningproce,s forconsid'ation. In the meantime pi'as'v-
solution., would ioveto build up the plant habitat so it follows a permacuitur'mind-,with this —b—, for other waysyou antay involved in the conversation. Envision Pait T—a-d Goif Course and
different heightsnd types of plants. It could be used a s a permacuitur' d' —to,t—site ora M ountain View Commons l City of Portiowns'.d Washingtnn(otyofpt.a). Th -M g— for,kingth' timet,
common toad toren. send your cam mems.
11/29/2022 Chauncey tncki'ar
Thank you so much foryourinput forth,, community discussion about the Part Townsend Goif Course and
Mouetain View Commons. W'have an op'ationai contact for the Goif Course than, effective through
I'd like to ee an ,nvestrnent,na ,I...rays,th.twe could have m ore opp,,t,,t e, to have. December 2023 and we are in the cold. of pianning for the future both for the Goif Courre and Mouetain View
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arbor neural ged,as well i,_ g, ,, I,leoty wh,e the large magnitude a rthqua k'(the Commons. W' will add your commentsto the pianning process for c,ad'ation. In the meantime pi'as'v-
big one) h, , and we are cutoff from the I.rger ,ppl,e,,. I'd aim like a mmmun,N garden prof ea this webpage tar other waysyou an nay involved in the conversation. Envision Port T—a-d Goif Course and
wl tha barn Flll ed wl th shareable—I,-d farm equipment Ler, use the re,tf,, 5, to, Mouetain View Commons l City of actiowns'.d Washingtnn(otyofpt.a). Thi, nks a gain for taking the time to
affordable housing uni,and go for maximum d,a,ty. Maximum d'nsvtyl send yourcomments.
11/29/2022 Kes Horrocks
Thank you so much foryourinput forthis community discussion about the Portiowns'.d Goif Course and
W'need.bold/ambitious vision that serves a m uimud' of needs in a way that is more than Jun Mountain View Commons. W'have an op'ationai contact for the Goif Course than, effective through
collection of f'aturesand creates a Dertination fl, iocaisand touensalik, Alone exam pie, December 2023 and we are in the cold. of pianning for the future both for the Goif courre and Mouetain Vi—
iew
h—
here',what, ported on Fe. Stack font[ions. There is so m -hspaceI Piaygroued(JUM Pis Commons. W' will add your tom men, to the pia —hg process for consid'ation. In the m eantime please visit
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d nd m or'). Amp,th—,(aii reason).Climbing/bouidenng. H urs
igh roper coe this w,bpi, ge for other ways you ana Townd Goif Course and
n y involved in the conversation. Envision Part nre
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andin gtaiis above/through it aii. Planted and signed ora bior'gionai botanical garden using Mountain View Commons I City of act To— ... d Washington (cityofpt. a), Thi, nks again for taking the time m
p'rznacuituai pencipl's to ct-ct ' inp-and maintenance. Some kind of shared kitchen space send your tom mems.
(like lila',) m teed the visitors (and add additional revenue). Surrounded by i, multipurpose
paved tail (like Greeniak').
11/30/2022 Marl: Weiss
Thankyou so much for yourinput for this community discusrioe about the Part Town send Golf Course and
Thegoif courre rerves relamelyfew p'opl'a nd is far from an ” open space' or green space. Mountain View Co-- W'have an op'ationai contact for the Goif Course than, effective through
There is no pubilcaccess.CurrentIt,the city is basiaily tart a landlord coH,Iingre-on land., December 2023 and we are in the cold. of pianning for the future both for the Goif Courre and Mountain View
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beleve that the land can better serve the city and pubilcin so many ways. Som e of it could be Commons. W' will add your tom men, to the pia —hg process for coad'ation. In the m eantime please visit
used for mud h,,d'd affordable ho—mg.Pias. keep mart of it for public us, such a, a pari:, this w,bpi, g' for other ways you an nay involved in theconversation Envision Part Townrend Goif Coors'and
dogtaii,etc. It would be wonderful if mart of the la nd could be r'nor'd to its --istate M -ht—View Com m ons l City of act To— ... dWa,h,hgt-(cityofpt. a), Thi, nksag— for taking the time to
pear to d'v'lopm'et a sit golf cours, rend your tom m en,.
11/30/2022 Jesre Wild
Thankyou so —h foryo-rinp-tforthis community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have an opeat,onai contact for the Edit Course that,, effective through
would love m be able m use at leer[part of th„sp-, for walking, with my mend,, and dog on
December 2023 and we are in the mid. of planning for the future, both for the Edit Courre and Mountain View
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leash. Sacamento', A—1 Hoffman Pad: ha, th„mixed -re with golf course and tail,. I also think
Commons. We will add your --t, to the planning process for—d—h— In them -h—,please—d
would benefit the city and it, c,h—,if— of the space had high-density affordable but
th„webpa ge for other way, you a n rtay involved in the conversation. Fnvi„on Port Townrend Edit Course and
beaut,f-i)ho-sing.m that the people who wort: here could actually live here. That more
Mo -main View Commonsl City of Port Town,endWashington(c,tyofpt.-,). Tho nk, again for taking the t— td
im portant than the m,nonty of talk, that golf, IMO.
send your comments.
11/30/2022 Mana Coryaii-Martin
Thank you so much toryourinput forth,, community discussion about the Portiownsend Goif Course and
support the golf course and Mountain View Commons a, —unity accessibie,paces-
Mountain View Commons. We have an opeat,onaicontact for the Edit Course that,, effective through
Ila ,.I'd really like to see a new pool/mmmu-y center, espedally aswe area
December 2023 and we are in the mid. of pianningforthefut-re, both for the Edit Courre and Mountain View
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'me based com munity and water ed-t—i,1,— mount It would also rerve fines,and
Commons. Wewilladdyourcommentsto thepianningprocess tdr--deah— lnthemeantime,piea,—d
rehabsupportforall ages, onalignmentwithJefferson Healthcare. I've wised mysevenyearold
thiswebpage forother waysyou an rtay involved in theconversation. Envision Portiownrend Goif Courseand
daughter here and often wish w e could walk and Play on the golf Courre. Perhaps td, eresroom
Mountain View Commons l City of Port Td— ne.dWashington(c,tyofpt-,). Thank, again for taking the t— td
tar compromise in some pubilc/private access, but I believe m the value of pubilc green space tar
,end your comment,.
w -ll n expior ng andmeet g sourctymay grow may dense -m other space,.
. New-A—tsasofIOG/22
12/2/2022 Gary Rogers
Keep the golf Courre.
Thank you so much to y— input for thi unity disc- - n about the Port Town send Edit Course and
Mo -main View Commons. We have an opeat,onaicontact for the Goif Corse that,, effective through
Decem b” 2--
2023 and we are in the mid. of pianningforthe fut-re, bath for the Galt Courre and Mo -main View
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Commons. We will add yourcomments to the pia nning process tartan,Ideation. Inthemeantime,piea,—d
this webpage for other waysyou an rtay involved in the conversation. Envision Pd,t Td--dGoif Course and
Mo -main View Common, Gtyof Portiown,end Washington (cityotptus). Thanks again fortak,ngthe Time to
end your comments.
12/3/2022 A,hiey Smith
Thank you so much toryourinput torthis community discussion about the Portiownsend Goif Course and
Mo -main View Commons. Wehaveanopeat,onaicontactforthe Goif Co-rsetha —ffi,—,thro-gh
Decem b" 2023 2023 and we are in the mid. of pianningtorthe fut-re, bath for the Galt Courre and Mo -main View
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Commons. We will add yourcomments to the pia nning process tartan,Ideation. Inthemeantime,piea,—d
this webpage for other waysyou an rtay involved in the conversation. Envision Pd,t Td--dGoif Course and
Keep the golf nurse, E—fp-T— ,sone of thefewac0vi0es availablelocally.
Mo -main View Commonsl CItyof Portiown,end Washington(cityofptus). Thanksagainfortak,ngthenmem
Would love to seertexpanded rtinciude mini golf and family focured events
send your comments.
12/4/2022 Saah C Peiler
Thank you so much toryourinput torthis community discussion about the Portiownsend Goif Course and
would Id, e to,eea,maiWnittr-ly, affordabieho-„ngcommunity with lots otgardensand
Mo -main View Commons. Wehave an opeat,onai contact for the Edit Corse that,, effective through
green,pacehere. Maybewod:ingm conj-nR,onw,th Celine Santiago acro„ the meet, to
December 2023 and we are m the mid. of planning for the f -t -re, both for the Golt Courre and Mo -main View
expand getvision,omewhat. She', cre mg,ome—mg things on the peace sign property and
Commons. We will add your commentsto the planning process forcon„de.. — Inthemeantime,piea,—d
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would love to,ee the city wort: with her. Or perhaps farzniand and/or some spaces for
this webpage for other waysyou an rtay involved in the conversation. Envision Port Td --d Edit Co-rseand
uhity-onented businesses�Keeping the not-ailand—p, and green space... It made m e
Mo -main View Commonsl City of Port Td— ne.dWashington(c,tyofpt.-,). Thank, again fo, -mg the nme to
sadwhen thec,ty took o -t the p -mg Tot at better living through coffee and just replaced it with
,end your --t,
as hoping for mare greenery and many people expressed that d—pp—tment a,
well.SoeI d hate tosee us lose the nat-ai beauty of that zone entely if—,th,hge1,, got built
there.
12/1/2022 Fan Past
Thankyou so much for yourinp-t for this community disc-s„on about the Port Townsend Edit Corse and
Mo -main View Commons. We have an opeat,onaicontact for the Goif Corse that,, effective through
Decem ber 2023 and we are in the mid. of pianningtorthe fut-re, bath for the Galt Courre and Mo -main View
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It irk, m e that my taxpayer m oneyi,s-pp-mga f—1,ty l cannot even walk on, since l am NDTa
Commons. We will add yourcommentsto the pianningprocess forcon„deat,on. Inthemeantime,piea,—d
goifer.Asweil,golfCo-rseS -,e too m uch water, and clb-11111, Nor do they provide habitat fl,
thiswebpage for other ways you an I, involved in theconversPort T1111111 Envision PoT1111111 Goif Co-rseand
htd.slprefer to ee part of thisprdpe,Ey,abo -t 10 acre, or less, used for affordable
Mo -main View Commonsl Gty of Portiownsend Washington(cityofptus). Thanksagainfortak,ngthenme to
ho sing and the rert for open,pace and recreation, for everyone.
end your comments.
12/2/2022 Ch ---Andrews
Thank yo -,o much for yourinp-t for th„ community disc-s„on about the Port Townsend Galt Corse and
Mo -main View Commons. We have an opeat,onaicontact for the Goif Corse that,, effective through
Decem ber 2023 and we are in the mid. of pianningtorthe fut-re, bath for the Galt Courre and Mo -main View
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The golf course m my opinion what be better-t,I—d for affordable ho-„ -part--)and
Commons. We will add your commentsto the planning process for consideation. Inthemeantime,piea,e—d
green,pace.lt,locat,oniscioreto schooisand rtores. Weaiready haveanother great golf
thiswebpage torother waysyou an rtay involved in theconversation. Envision Portiownrend Goif Courseand
at Chevy Chase. Chevy Chase probably would appreciate the added businessas weii.l
Mo -main View Commons l City of Portiown,end Washington(c,tyofpt.-,). Thank, again fo, -mg the t— td
d- t feel aur comm-mty really need, two golf Courre,.
,end your comment,.
12/4/2022 Nanoy Erreca
I nave re-- your comment, and are—mgthem to the log.
The Health and W eiines, group i„pendinga whale lot of money and h—to build a Health and
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W eiines, Center to encouage ail of -, to get —side and exercise so why do they want to
elminate already existing -td— exertse and spd,t e -e, that are used ail the h—getting us
o-t,ide exercising? The open house m January i, tar-, to ch -,e which of those venues we want
gone. Well we don't—,t any we already have gone and they should not either.
12/4/2022 D. Wb.rt
Thank you so much for ydurinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend GHif Course and
ma goiter. I do not play PF because of theabsence of course maintenance. I play at Discovery Mountain View Commons. W. have an Hp.atio lft. ta.t for to GHif Course tads effective through
Bay which is very well maintained --d pared td PF.I believe tat the and the PF golf lcourse sits December2023 and we are In to _d. of pianningforthur.
efut, both for the GHif Cdurre and Mountain View
could be better utilized by m ore citizens f it were converted td other uses.lf one consvders to Commdns. W. will add your com mems td the planning prdcess for consideation. In the m. hhN please visit
likelihood more crtaens would ore the course If It were cleaned up and better managed the this w.bpag, for dtherways you a n rtay involved In the conversation. Envision Port T,w ,hd GHif Cdurseand
and m Hney is not there.Fdrthdre who truly want W play gaff Discovery Bay lsa Mountain View Commdnsl City df PH Tdwns.nd Washington(citydfptusJ. Thanksagain fortakingthe timet
viable al tern a Ov,. Fido mm, other uses for the load.... be theyprivate or public leasing th,ladd send your comments.
tar residential construction as many universities dd td prdvide mare affordable housing for staff
might be a nice sHIhtd for ids.advd-mg m a re affordable housing aiternatives.The tity need
Ht get involved In building affordable housing as they have demdnrnzted with the Ca"
Apartments. Converting MVP td a theater might be a better use Hf to space. euiidinga new pool
and wellness center do the PF gdif across from the pool makes sense (bus connecndns
etc )Cdnv.rdng the gait course td a pari: does not make much retire td me as we barely maintain
the parks we have. Anything with gals requires maintenance.
12/5/2022 Mike -Cl-
Thanksforyduremail. am respondingsH thatyou havea..uat.Informtfl The PW Department did not
delvesreporttd Cduncii and basetheirr,commendations dothewor tithe NET rtudy. Infact, Cduncii charged
Dear Cduncii M.mb.rs,l und.rrtandthatthe Phith 1k, Dept has dellv.r.da reporttH the rtkffwith havinga robust -unity conversandn aboutthe GHif Cd—, that is happ.ningrtght now. The City
Cduncii that makes r..Hmm..dations regarding the future Hf the gaff course a rid tat their offi—Ily I, ... td David Held, to ad Il the NGF report add the golf nurse add give usan asressm,dc David's
Isbareds,I,lydn the NGF reportand does not incorpoate to evaluafld, df David will be part df to whole conversation. Inaddmdn, we currently have an dpeatidnai contact for to
Heiner. This makes absolutely nH sense, since David Hein wa s hired indirectly by the City td GHrif Course tabs effective through December 2023 and as l mentioned earlier, we are In to m ldn df planning
prdvid.a sec' devaluandn regarding the future Hf the golf course. l apHidgiz.rfl am mistaken for the future both for the GHif Cdurse and Mountain View Commdns. W, WIII add your comments td to
about this, but dtherwis.. please see that ar.fui co—d—t—is given td David It -,'s reporc planning prdcess. In the meantime pl—, ,,it this webpagetdr dtherways you can stay involved in the
n'. Envision PHrtidwns..d Galt C-111 and Mountain View Com mons City df Pdrt Townsend
Washington (cityofptus). Thanks again for taking the time W send your comments.
12/5/2022 Robert Hoppe Mail
Please consider this R.qu.rt regarding the Report df the Department df Pubilc Work, that I
understand is being submitted W to City Cduncii Wday.Sp. fi,Mhy, I'm told that David Heine,z
Thanks for land letter td the Ci Cduncii. The CFP that was add db he Cduncii do MHnda -ht
cnsuitantdn the Pdrt Townsend GHif Cdurse hascompl—, drlswo,k,hg dfi, a suppI'di"t tH Yduremai ry pte by y
the Report by NET which is part df the Pubilc WHri:s Report.l have not seen Mr. Heine's report, alive document tat we w111 continue W updat.as needed. The City Cduncii will have to opportunity W adopt it
butlunderrtand rtaddressesthe issue of the NGF cart ertimateforrecommended every i-2yeaadunngthe budgetaddption.Th, City Cduncii charged staff with havinga rdbur[community
improvements td the gait co� .Ifurtherunderstand tat thds. who Hppo,, continuing the c
_ ofNGF r,p,,tadd the golf nurse a dd give usan assess Tent David's ----11 be part of the
NET
their position that the EHif co� should h. be continued In dpeatiort by to City as such wholeconversation. In addmdn, we currently havean dpeatidnai contact for to GHif Cdurse tabs effective
Id be tod.Hrti.However, to NGF tort e,ti—t. should be he through December 2023'-d as lmen 0", earlier, we areln temidn df pianningfHrthefuture, both forth,
dpeation woo Y yt
GHif Cdurse and Mountain View Commdns. We will add your commentsm the planning prdcess. In the
Cduncii as substantially meleesant, as Itis based upon Inaccuate assumptions as td what
"improvements are needed for continued dpeation df the gait course. Itis hoped tat Mr. m,anflm,,piea,evisit this w.bpag, for other way,y-an tay Involved In the.Hnve..at— Envision Pdrt
Heme's report will explain td to City Cduncii why these corn should not beln.urr.d, a[h"y IT' THwnrend GHif Cdurse and Mountain View Commdnsl City df PHrtidwnsend Washington (cirydfptus). Thanks
In facia . it lute I'leme' s su lementai re ffe.tivei ddress.s the again for taking the tm td send your comments.
not pprdpnate dr necesmry pp parte ya
e, believe the Gty Cduncii should have and.Hnsvder that Information before It prd.e.ds
on
with d'hbeatis do tssu
o Ies df"repurposingthe gait course property and cohtmu
dpeatidn of the gait course.
12/8/2022 Nancy Err..a
Thanks for your comments W to City Cduncii Nan, I will add them td the comment idg.
Seveaicomments talk about benefit thus to whale community. Every exerts,/sport venue Ira
benefit td community dff.nng you a place td exerts, d,. jj y sport and the --d—, that
It brings. The gait course Is a sport court just like football, barebah, soccer, picM,bah courts dr
fields. The gait course Is also a benefitW community by giving thdusand, df ddilaa from their
td local groups and charities like Klwanis, Rhddy `,-al, Elks Ciub, High Schaal
Rivals athletic prdgams, Jefferson County little 1,agu., Sunrise Rotary Club, etc. The city shduid
giveth,gdif.ours.a odmmendatidn tar many ears df giving m th, murtty ariato Heath
and Wellness Center should ...Hoag, ail exerts./sport groupsW add a community benefit df
fund airing. Repurposing the golf.H , would be a disrervice tH thecomm u %, hopeto
.i gens, city counc,I and nak.hdiders will Id their due diligence and read everything do the golf
website say.ptgdif cam d they a re aware Ht ail the benefits and see the current purpore
is as It shduid be benefiting to whale community.
12/8/2022 Sand, St—ii
Could Port Townrend beneHt from an environmental ed—t— center --d ata golf 1-11?
W ouid an environmental nonprofit be able to establish a facility that could d,w visitors from out
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of town for special events a rid —b-p, h, providinga rich seaming experience and access Thanks foryourinput about the golf courre. Ihave added it to our com merit log that the Cb—,l will review in
to lovely groundsrertored with native plants. Income would need to com e from di,—, makingany d,cisionsab— the land. Thanks so much.
worb—ps, specialevents, donations and grants. This would be som.thinga bit different tar aur
and t could be pretty wonderful. This might be a better option Man mare arts ac[ivines,
activities
given the efforts W expand art at Et d,
12/10/2022 Patti ldy,ki
Thanks so much for .Ihave hem in ouron to forreviewb he Cit Council. Yes, there
your comments putt going g by y
distinctly reals putting thought and eff-rt responding t, a questionnaire a boutwhi,t m do alot ofpublic com merit Mat was atu,d a few yearsag.as part of the Pa iks, R .creation, and Open Space
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with theif courre .M if and friends who a iso res d,d wonder what ha dto Planning process. It was-- of this input the Council decided W dive down d,.p,rinto this process. To this
go property, yre pan ppene
end, the city hired al a ndscap,architll to start working on� itemativeconcepts thm, .-mg with our
ourinput. Didrtmakeany difference, did anyone read rt�lt makes me wonderabout the
t. Thanksa tar
unity commentary process. commonly gain yourinput.
12/12/20221yn Barry
As hasbeen previously stated, while we envision the Port Town send Goif Courre and the Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this community discussion a bout the Port Town send Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons we —t remember the green open space is irreplaceable. Mountain Mountain View Commons. W, have an op„tionai cont,ct for the Goif Course Mati, effective through
View Commons is ideally placed for the Port iown... d11-ithi,riog.th,r Community Health December 2023 and we are in the mid. of planning for the future, both for the Goif Courre and Mountain View
and Wellness C,nt.r.Th, golf course should not be used for housing;nob—,, no apartments, Commons. W, will add your comments to the planning process f,, —d—t— In the meantime, please visit
no performmga its c,nt.r.Th, Evans Vista Housing Development is well situated with pians for this w,bpa g. for other ways you a n -Y involved in the conversation. Envision Port Townrend Goif Course and
IOD-150w bfo,eib—mg oons, envisioning a lively community i, t. Madrona Ridge M _t—View Commons l City of Portiown... d Washington (cityofptus). Th-M gain fortakingthe t—w
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Subdivision is approved for 16J homesEquitabie and inclusive housings, dismbut.d throughout send your comments.
Portiownsend including Admi,ity Apts, Bishop Pari: Apts, Claridge Court Apts, Discovery View
Apts, Hancock St Apt,, Kearney St Apts, laurel Heights Apt,, Marine View Apts, and San Juan
Commonsamong oth,rs.euiidoz,rs are—mg improv,m.nt, for ,p,,,, at the Casw,ii-Brawn
Village. Gty zoning and code amendments a re being considered for revision at thistim e. This is
not the time W —, up the green open space of the Port Town send golf courre.
12/16/2022 Charles Steurer
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
Mount—View co—” W, have an op„ti 1ft1nt,ct for the Goif Course thm,effective through
D...m b” 2023 2023 and we aresnthe_it. of pianningforthefuture, bath for the Goif C- and Mountain View
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Commons. W, will add your com merits to the pian process for�—d—tion. In thea —ti—, please visit
am born and,sredin port Townsend rent,1983. My first job wasat the p- Townsend golf thisw,bpa g, for other ways you an rtay involved in th,con —tion. Envision Port Townrend Goif Co—,and
course best job lever had. l think It would be a huge t,g.dy to close or down see a step in the MountainView Commons l City of I`-TO ns,nd Washington (cityofpt us). Thies g—fo, -mg the nmem
w ong direction torose community end your comments.
12/16/2022 Charles law
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Golf Course and
Mount—View co—" W, have an op„ti 1ft1nt,ct for the Goif Course thm,effective through
D11—ber 2023 and we aresnthe_it. of pianningforthefuture, bath for the Goif C- and Mountain View
t s has been documented the Port Townsend Goif C- has a major N—Iiai background. In Commons. W, will add your com merits to the planning process for —d—t— Just so you a re aware, the
1854 the Superintendent of Indian Affairs recognized Cheech-Ma-H am as chief of the S'Mi,liam S” Kilaliam is represented on our stakeholder group. In the meantime,pi,as, v,,it this w,bpage for other ways you
nib, and held him responsible for the "good ,-- of his people. At Point Db Point, in 1855, stay invol—, th,conve—t— Envision Port Townsend Goif Course and Mountain View Commons)City of
Chief Ch...h Mi, am signed a treaty giving up all S'Mail— land in exchange for retaining the Port Townsend Washington jcityofptus). Thanks again for taking the time W send yourcomments.
rightsW fish, hunt and gathers, the S' Mail— usual and accustomed areas. Such -at—,pushed
by Governor I—, Stevens and largely misunderstood by the Indians, provoked the Indian Wars in
1855-56. Duringth— wars, a number of S' Kiailam held a secret m.etingto decide whether or
to kill the whites in P-To—... J, The S'KIallam delibe,ted tar nine days, during which
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Che..h Ma-Ham rent a daily signal of"danger." G, the tenth day, the mesag. Search 12/19/22,
10'. D2AM Submission 4132 1 City of Port Townrend Washington
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linking Poli,, I from Signal Rack was, in essence, "dangers, passed." The S' Kiailam had given up
their purpose. Cheech-Ma-Ham was considered a hero by the white population, and tram that
paint on was--tal—d by them. A bronze plaque was eventually placed on the rack he
signaled tram, and a pari: in Port T,—ehd bears the name Chetzemoka. Signal Rack and bronze
plaque and statue) are at gateway W the Port Townsend golf course. believe it would be fining
and properW i—t, the Jam.rtown S' Mail—tribe on what course should be undertaken and
what shared vision they might have for the land that is their t,dm—al territory.
You aag—gto sp,,da lot of—y. a health and wellness centelto get usaii outside Th-ksforyourcomm-Nancy. I havekggedthem on ourcomment log.
and triso wu ake away golf coudoe wheelmny people
hngh gh__dsofrslrstorciyotare outside exertsing
groups and chanties?Th, high con
is - longela factor and ail you need is a pro like Mike Early. The course is doing 1—fly what
you want so why not use itasan example tar health and wellness especially tar our34% rentor
population?
Hello - My husband and I believe the number onepriority for our community, i fiii housing for
lowerand middle income people.
.1 are a developed, urban community -and have the
infiartruc[ure available to support mare housing. W e believe the 58 acres currently —d forthe
golf courre sh ouid be publicly developed as community bared housing -focusing- middle, low
in me ho using -in combination with pubik trails a rid extensive pains habitat —t—t— Ah
aquatic com pi- could be developed as part of this f the community wants W fit,—, that. Our
community funded a $28 million dollars elementary school "20ll. W e imagine with a clear
purpose and vision -that the community would overwheimingiy fund a project like this. Davis, CA
and many other communities are rtr .1mg with these housing affordability issues and coming
up with innovative solutions. https'//www. palominopiacedavis.cam/4tiHev✓ithsideaverview-2.
Search 12/19/22, 10' 03 AM Submission 4134 City of Port To—lehd Washington
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linking Polity Housing, Paine rermation, Public tails, and Aquatics complex. A winning
combination of proje—The loaf golf course's time has came -to be transformed into
methmg mare ,bp-t:tar our times -and forthe future of aur community. Discovery Bay
isoa lovely course that is not far from town -and is affordable. I'm sure they would be open to
partner- with PT or County Parkland Rec to subsidize talks who —ot afford their fees -and
develop affordable progams
Thankyou somuch foryourinput forthis community discussion about the P -Tb— ... d Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have an opea_-o —tactfo, the Goif Course Matic effective through
December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the future, bath forthe Goif courre and Mountain View
Commons. We will add your commentsto the planning process for consideat— Inthemeanhi pkase -
thiswebpageforotherwaysyouanrtayinvolvedintheconversation. Envision Port Townrend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons I Gty of P -Tb— ... dWa-gt-(cityofptus). Thanks again for— the time to
send your cam mems.
Charley b—"k'
12/17/2022 liz ho ... g--ki
Thank you so much for your input forthis community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
We have Forert Schumer and Fred Sharpe -pains --- -p-, right herin PTH They—
Mountain View Commons. We have an opeationai contact for the Goif Course Matic effective through
lead the rertoation efforts -and get youth outside wori:ingm—t—thiscuit—land
Decem 1,112023 and we are in the mid. of planning for thefuture, both forthe Go if courre and Mountain View
oral neasure.lmagine what an i—,g...at—ai com inanity effort this would bel
Commons. We will add your com mentsto the planning process for consideat— In the --h- please -
Familieswouldbe involve —talks about it fol g...ations. Th,, should be a publicly funded
this webpage fol other ways you— tay involved i, th......rsation. Envision Port Tow—hd Goif Course and
and directed effort.https//giobalearthlepairfoundation.org/forest-s—,-t--dsa,d-
M_t— View Commons l Qty of Portiow.... dWa-g—(cityofptus). Thanks again fortaki the timet,
pains artoat,
end your com menti.
12/17/2022 Melanie M—a
Th-kyou so much foryourinput fol this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have-opeat—ai contact fol the Goif Course Matic effective through
December 2023 and we are in the mid. of planning fol the future, bath fol the Goif courre and Mountain View
Commons. We will add your comments W the planning process for c-,,d,at,-. In the --h- please visit
this webpage fol other ways you— tay involved in the converation..vision Port Townrend Goif Course and
MountainView Commons I Qty of P- Tb— ... d W a -g— (cityofptus). Thanks again fol taking the time t,
would like the PT golf course remain a golf course.
send your comments.
12/18/2022 Nancy Erreca
Thanks fol your com menti. I have logged them on our comment log.
don't play golf , why should I a re If we keep the golf mals,, d-'tsvlm so why should I care
a boothavl,g a swimming pool, I don't play plckl,ball so why should I care If there are mole
I d-'teatsd— ,why should I are If they dl'pp—, I don't care about o-eesso why
sht,,
ould are If the aln forest dlappears, don't care about Port Tow .... d beaus. I want -[to
be like Seattle. You are about these things beaus. they are worthy w be aad about and
beaus. they are it, portantw others You support keeping them beaus. they bring joy, beauty
and health w others.
12/18/2022 Liz hoenig kanieeki
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have an opeationai contact for M, Goif Course Matie effective through
Hello again -We'd like maim encouage our community to really be IMAGINATIVEas we December 2023 and we are in M,midet of planning for the future, both for the Goif Coorre and Mountain View
nsidera iternativee for this land. One other example ata " developmentthat incorpoates Commons. We will add your comments to the planning process forconeideation. In them -h—, please visit
eocologicai, permacuiture, and rertoative design ie Village Homesin Davis, CA. This isan article this webpage for other ways you a n -y involved in the conversation. Envision Portiownrend Goif Course and
n the subdivision. https//eteemit.cam/health/®�ennisiay/surtainabi�mburbia�xpionng- Mountain View Commonsl City of P-Tb—send Washingmn(cityofpt ). Tha nksagain fortakingthe t—tb
villa h.—in-0avisra. We believe rf humans an IMAGINE a futurethat mpporte reematrve send your comments.
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values -fork games, tar locifood/ediblelandscaping- tarprotection of native soils, tar
servo n of indigenous cultures, tar widely and freely available pubilc spaces, toran ethic of
humans as active stewards of M, land...th, — an bring it into being. Search 12/19/22, 10 05
AM Subm>seion 4138 1 City of Portiownee.d W aehingmn
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linking Polity 1 We hope you will also consider designing pubilc engagement processes that allow
for the IMAGINATIONS and DREAMS of humans to be heard and seen. Thank y-
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Before we moved to town in July 2001. Portiownsend hada railer skatingnnk ada bowling Thankyou so much toryourinput forthiscommunity discussion about the Portiownsend Goif Course and
alley. Both of these were gone by the h— we --d he re. The golf course is One of the few Mountain View Commons. We havean opeationai contactforMe Goif Course Matin effective through
re nal opportunRiesthat people havein town. It isan open space with wiidirfe.l see December2023 and we are in Me midrt of pianningforthefuture, both for the Goif Course and M ountain View
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coyotesogeese,ducks, and many speciesof singbirds often when lam outthere piaying.The golf Commons. We will add yourcomments to the planningprocees torconsideation. In the meantime, please visit
course haeth, high school team, and often see familiesand kids at the driving ange and on the this webpage tar other waysyou an rtay involved in the conversation. Envision Portiownrend Gait Course and
Cou.. PT isvery frl endly m the PlckIeballers(lam one),why— Wtwe as friendly to the golf Mountain View Commons l City of Portiowneend Waehingmn'cityofptue). Thanks a gain fo—Imgth, t—tb
cit
Coorre. s not the beetmurse In theworld, botwelove l tand ltls oursl Please keep the golf send yourcomments.
12/22/2022 IIx Hoenig
Ihaveeon,foilow hp question about timing ofinput forth, envisioning process. Can you estimate
when pubilcinput will end? I ee you are planning to wort: with Council on a decision spreng
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We will be tannin h Me bilc throw Ma h 2023. Please let know if
2023. I a m wo 1mgw,th a small group of cit—, anda Nmefamefor decision —hg.-Idp gwit pu g y, you have additional questions.
be helpful ). Thanks m much.
12/24/2022 David Burroughs Thankyou so much toryourinputforthiecommunity discussion aboutthe P-Tb—send Goif Course and
M ountain View Commons. Wehaveanopeati 1ft1ntactfor M,Goif Courseth--ffectivethrough
The golf PT course isan open ace green spthan at makes the SJuan valley attactiv, to users I)—,ce
of m b" 2023 mid. of pianningfo2023 and we are in ,rthefuture, both for the Goif Coorre and Mountain View
ace and to
the spnonusersalike.Thereie an h"tonai value to M,ace Mat .,Ii will be destroyed If Commons. We will add your commentsto the planning process for consideation. Inth,meantime,piease—,t
it ,said to proratedevelopers. Itis one of the few remaining parte of M, town that hoe not been this webpage for other ways you an rtay involved in theconversation. En. ision Port Townrend Goif Course and
developed beyond beinga golf course)and Mere isan important weHand Matattactsa variety Mountain View Commonsl Gty of Portiownsend Washingmn(cityofptus). Thanksagain fortakingthe nmem
of wildlife. Developing M, space will destroy one of the Ming, that makes Po Tb—end so send your comm este.
special. Port Townsend residents appreciate the aesthetics of the town and selling the space to
developers will only be beneficial to the very few who stand W profit from the venture. Keep P-
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special. Don't make it look like any other small city in M, country. It that is what you
e there and- Po Tb—end retain its unique chaacter.
12/27/2022 Joe Evans ar 't'e'edby the gait course would provide the pe,t-opportunity W , —t Tha nk you so much for yourinput for thiecomm unity discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
Townrend W development for afforda Ne housing. Apartm ents, condo,, a pari:ingg— , oriarg, Mountain View Commove. Wehaveanopeationai contactforth, Goif Course Matin effective through
hotel would greatly bene fit the loci economy ae well ae provide much needed housing.Stifling December 2023 and we are in M,mid. of piannivgforthefuture, both for the Goif Coorre and Mountain View
d,v,lopm Brit iso failed agenda. We areaiready suffe-gf— too manypeople, notenough Commove. Wewiii add vourcommentsto the olannine process forconsideation. Inth,meahh— plea--
12/27/2022 Corey Labe, Tong.It.s insane to m e how defensive people are of a go if 'our.. that, One, Bengsin barely any Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
and In fact lsarnvely 111,19 money.Two, hardly has people u,,,,gtt Three, doesn't allow Mountain View Commons. W, have an opeationai contact for M, Goff Course Mat.. effective through
forregular p,d,rmans w walk through it after dart: and m ort importantly -F—,, .,a huge piece December 2073 and we—ii. th,m.dn of planning for the future, both for the Gdlf Cour.. and Mountain View
df land.,a centai—d dation that cduid be used for h-eeg.na town the desp,ately needs Commdn.. W, will add your --et, w the pianningprdcess forconsideation. In the mealy, please visit
housing.L—, part df the'ourse keep the pond area and createalov,ly pari: that everyone an—- —bpfdr dth,r ways you a n -y involved., the conversation. Envision Port Town..nd Gdif C—,,and
en joy. Even jun create a —h,, ib witha dev.ngange. Or even fdr the love df goda minigolf Mountain View Com— City df P-T—e... d—iington('ityofptus). Thanksaga.n fdr taking the time vi
park, atleast then,t—Id actually make m.nay. But l don't know of any land that could send yourcomments.
modate people s1 well. It's easily vel thin walking d,-- of two Search 1228/22, 9 29 AM
Submission 4142 City df Pdrt Townsend Washington
https//citylTptus/node/21717/submission/434122/3 grocery --,, Me YMCA, Me dog pari:, a
V,ta farmstand, He ... ys Hardware, and the high school. It's an area that actually has
salable sidewalks a rid bike lanes fdr Mdse where walking and biking., their main made of
ti— AT df the green space could easily--ddatea lovely looking apartment
178 building that'Sold house people who could add v,b—, and energy w Ms wonderful
'07unity. get rt, losingat least part dfa green space.town would e fficult eut this town
has td rtart thinking pac[iaily rf we wanttd have reliabl, e heaiMcare, rberditauants and retail
workers. R,ght now all those areas are ib,—Thag, ng. --ke a walk downtown and you'll ..e
"help wa nted's,g,,,, every other store. And yet everyone..ems t1 wonder why n1 one Is
taking them up oe M, offer. Why are there such long wait times? Why.. food m much mare
expensive i Why , my Tawara (insert place) now closed mare often? The simple answer.. no
d w - it. Why should anyone want vi commute so far fdr a job that will barely cover
tpge dr rent?Fara job that will hardly cover the gas vi get here?Alre it ee—,that
rt df the wobers.n town on, m uta bath here and back, Pdrt Hadlock,Pdrt Wdlow, Sequim,
Port Angeles- even S,Iverdale. Don't even getme started 1n IT... ihatrely 1n the Ferry t1 get
here.
It aL 11ut,ly r,d,,,l... and atrodous that those that—it here can't l,ve here. And the
,"Oh well, when I was YOUR age-" attitude t1 that facta,—nds me. Did our recent roans
and snow not remind us haw this town would completely shut d—e —h— minimum wage
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tried va.e,tiy hot cowl pot 111 11, official public input sa, be the OHY wed srce for the golf
hahtse protect have.resided Inputbefore, hot minkIcap I a,t hr this tim e And hope
2 exceeded the ,omm...,riodt 1 am not a golfer, ld 1 want tout my alas right 11
ffo,tz 1 ml,k m, gom,ou.s. shows d, r,vumosed_ AS 1 u,d.ata,d, m,.ro.ohio, of rsid.rns
mat acW,lIy use d now Is gone scowl, considering h- morn land Is taken up by the golf
s., understand th at the get
course PrapertY comprises 56 acres,.jetty of mom to
modate multiple uses_ 4 Everyone is aware that increasing the amount of affordable
haus, ng is of peramaunf importance far economic end humanitarian reasons i, the Part
Townsend area_ We've talked enough about the issue_ It's time he take alio, l5. One idea would
be he dedicated around 80% of the property (-46 acres) to venous recreational uses, while the
ting
18% (-10 acres) would be dedicated N
to affaeble housing 6 The housing could be
acefedalong the periphery An ideal spot would be ,—the infersecfian of San Juan end F
St"'t, There al ready is ome d,v,lopm„term„omerthat, .t pal efthe g.If ,oue.
prop,rty7There are many other possible location, as the course Is bounded by four mal,
sheets the aforementioned two plus Chatty end Blahe8 A 10 acre piece of land could
wmodate at (east 150'1 ..lyspaaed, small sl,gle-family hooses weh a little spa,e for
itty facilities The houses would be mare affordable, ITthW would be townhouses or It
e apartments end it makes sense he dedicate a large portion of the 10 acres to that kind of
development That would sig,f,cantjy increase the number overall housing u, tfs an those 10
heosiend really waved really boast the quantity of affordable housing i, this city 9 So why locate
,g at the gelt,..... pmpehy?a_ The golf mors. Is owned by the City There wows be ria
land cast, whichis typically 1/3rd of the dev,lo.m.,t...t So cost saving b. Theresa lot df
acreage and not ail ofIt needs to be used tar recreatidnai purposes.'. The golf cdurse..
undid by main__
which probably have major utilities., place. (cart) d. D,p,ndingdn
the location df the housing, the site —Id have goad t—etaccess.e. Depending do Me housing
loatidn, there cduid be reamnabie access td ndr,sand rervses. f. Depending do the housing
loatidn, there cduid be excellent access m middle and high schools. g. Great a",sstd
recreatidnai facilities. ;) I hope this an stili mak,It.ntd the record. Thanks.
SS oared and put into the public retard. For future reference, we will be tak"g"'—
t throughout the planning
prdcessthrdugh June, and the tom meet and an be found online under the GC and Mountain View planning
page. 'tan get t, It by gong t1 the home page of the Qty's site, and d,ck,ng 1n the big button In the upper
r,ght 11-/W htte 1191". Thos will take you m the 6C page and you can both find the comment—d, and the
--t log. Thanks so —h fdr your tom meets.
12/31/2022 Nancy ET— a rcll t .t. f -.f c.k -. he
a I f C tl f 1e Tha nks fdr Cdunci. I have added them w M, tom meet to
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1/2/2023 MRha,i Connor
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-The city continues m prejudice the community against golf course even in their
nv, oopen house saying ltwas mmmunl Nis desire to explore dlfferentusesfor golf
course. That community was Me city council afterthey paid $20,000 tar someone in Florida to
assess
,If course. The report seems to ,agger[ we wanted P,bbi, Beach. W, the actual
co unity do not Golfers like the clubhouse and treesand rocksthe report suggerted
.Trig. The high cast had a ver$ 50,000 for t"' rack r'—ai and,ugg,-d replacing
-rr.gah. ryrt— and ail equipment. No ane would do that. Hence the description
end, "loos' for the report for by everyone who knows a nyth,ng about the golf nurse. Please do
not be prejudiced by this report. A new ane is taming. Al,,, nate the golf course with goad
-agement pays fit, -if and pays rent to the city and through Search 1/3/23, 9'.56 AM
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linking Poliry touma,—, gives Mousy -d, of doilarstoloaigroup,a-dchanties.Ai,othe
ring from three covid years like everyone and everything. Aiso since that i,portin
2019 the dry and the Playe,'s dub have done a lotof work needed. The c,ty does not have m
spend much if a-yth.-gforth, golf course but they could be spendinga great deal on the Health
andWellness center and building other sport venues. Th,c,tyjh,t authorized$175,ODO fora
ore pony to figure out the Health and Wellness center building design so they a- hire mmeone
to give'y rt%,dmat, on building it. Do we really Mink they will aim build all the things you ask
for? The goal of M, Health and W,line., centesis to get people outside and-.rt..hg. W,
should let them know there i,a golf course across the .— that gets people of all ages outside
r.i,i-g while giving thoua-d, of dollars m acomma-ity. It should be their mamot. we already
have mare health and wellness pactRmn,rs per pita than mart places. If you would like the
city to know you really would like them to fix the meets instead you a- email the council at
pubiiccomm,nt®c.tyofptu,
wage treatment garbage collection, decent housing and infiartruc[ur, maintenance, a,
.,ilea, police, Hr, and medial services. It would be -ice m have a golf warm, a ,.immi-g pool,
arack cI-b,bg wall and any number of oth,rth.-gr., could collectively dream up. Our
merg,nq f -, and ti ........are sorely underfunded and we —'tafford to pa........
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adequately maintain — t ..t,. So we need to spend ouri.mrt,d resource, on -...,..ties. One
of the needs that i, —dy appreciated i, the need far idam,ly.,Id open space. Search 1/3/23,
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,pa cesim prove air and water quality,-a—.iidiff, and enrich our mental and phy,iai health
ways that are hard m quantity, butar, -....thele., thoroughly researched and well
documented. Every loss of open space i, a loss in quality of life. So the qu,rt,. i,, haw do we
premrv, the b...fyZof the golf course property while spending the least amount of money on
its Since playing golf i, &,"etionary, and since a idam,ly small number of u, use the golf course
far golf, and since having golf ball, flying around makes it unafe fora -yon, -ot playing golf to
use the property, the only fair way to allow Mi, to continue i, to have those using the golf course
pay every cent of what it carts to upgrade and maintain that property. So new infiartruc[ure,
including-,,gat—ryrt,m,a, well a, all watering,mowing and other maintena rice should be
done at the expense of golfers. To ask the vert of the citizens of Portio. -„rid to pay for the
luxury entertainment ata few is in,qu.ta bie. If the golfers are un.iil.-gm do that, then the
prop,rry shout d be left ri es—no d...lop —'no mow, ng, no watering, no ma, tit—,"of any
kind, except beepingth, perimeterveglah- from encroach.-ginto oth,rareas, like public
sidewalksor adjacent private property. Even if it eventually beam, a 59 acre blackberry patch, it
would stili benefit wail in way, Matas, vastly superior[ any kind of development. The part and
premnt members of aur City Counc.i, aur City Managers and aur loci businesses have long
pushed to develop Portio. -,end to suit M,.ridas of what aorto.- should look like arm
increase the success of their persvnai businessintererts, or bath. Just bea um it. -Id be nice to
1. it Water mpply has became a conrtaint far many golf c-- in the Wert. I- the SF Bay Area,
any courses are required t use rerycied water. Given the proximity of the city's POT W, that
should be part of the future plan. It would also reduce-utrient release, to Puget Sound, which is
a major policy emphasis of Ecology and aim may be a source of funding. 2. Given the small
t of the city's capital reserves, reducing them by spendinga it,— doilars.iii be
elevatingth.s issue to the tap of the city', priority list. It. -Id be a useful exercise forth,
tom --e to ---
-e other similar apitai needs
have added Your comments to the record. Thank you.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community d.mus,mn about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. W, have a' opeationaicontact for the Goif Course that., effective through
m b,r 2023 and we are
D...in the -,Jt
. of pianningfor the fuure, bath for the Goif Courm and Mountain Vi-
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iewCommons. W, will add your tom meat, to the pia--ing process for c-,,d,,at,-. I-th, mea -time, please visit
th.,w,bpa g, for other way,you a-rtay involved in the conversation'. Envision Port To.mmhd Goif Course and
MountainView Common, I City of Portio. -„rid W a,hingmn (c.tyofpt. u,). Thanks again for tab. -g the time m
,end your --t”
Thank you so much for yourinput forth., comma-ity d.mus,mn about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain Vie. Commons. W, have a-opeatmnai contact for the Goif Course that., effective through
December 2023 and ., are in the midst of pia—hg for the future, bath for the Goif Courm and Mountain View
Commons. W, will add your comment, to the pian-ing process for c-,,d,,at,-. I-th, mea -time, please visit
th.,.,bpag, for other way, you an tay involved inthe conversation'. En —, Port To. -rend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons I City of Portio. -„rid W a,hingmn Icityofptu,). Thanks again fortak.-gth, time t
,end your cam merit,.
1/3/2023 Nancy --
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Th-ky-f,,yb--,t, Ih--dd,dth,h,t,th—,,hd,
People think the decision about the golf course has already been made. The answeris
hd No.
Th, Yee part. F t, th, ay —g --d th, golfp- o It —Id b, put hp
ft, repurposing with Mt. — — which It has noth,hgm db with other th- being
...... th, meet. t would bih. �, slilyt, y include other "'t 'k,
th, church with roomfa, g— courts and Cbilh..d --for frisbee golf Th— ie
o alternate purpose f,, th, pff course jhn a, th— is no alternate purpore f,, th,
—, P-1,
Second, th, city comminioned a report . th, pff course from —., m FI -11
which did not have —h relevance and everyone said was nd,hlb— 54 pages f,'
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and tails and —,h designated the course a -—1 use pari: tar only — type of
--t - —II things (-p,). Fourth, th, city hired a —,, — rt ff to run
th, bi- f,, th, city Fhfth, th, city hired a landeap, —ha- and pff
— `1 — fromS-ti, w -- and o .....e th, p,, $125,D00, —h, th, ay toldth,
public th, can have -ythhhg they -ht at th, golf,—, which -- It ffl noIb,
g" b, golf-- It seem this —y th, ly y- th, t,—, —h- th,
golf _—' gone not them.
The No part. you lb not -1d w destroy o—th that beautiful part of Part
and onlyy,,
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—mg �,d of It do,, not have to h-— You an ay No. —p th, pff course then
12/30/2022 MA— Forder
Thank you so —h f,,y— -t f—hh, --ty d--- ab— th, P- To— send Gbif Co—, and
Mountain vico—" W, have 11 1p1=1ft11t1'1for I GbIf Co—ththrough, , ff,,t,, through
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12/28/2022 Patty Schmucks
Thank you so much f,,yb—tf,,thh,community d--- about the P -To— ... d Gbif Co—, and
Mountain vico—" W, have 11 1p1=1ft11t1'1for I GbIf Co—ththrough, , ff,,t,, through
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this —bpa g, f,, other -y, you a n -y -bl— m th, con —tion. . .. . . P- T,.—hd Gbif Co—, and
ln rted m -p -mg a I,Hab—tlll Iff- W d,,,lopavision for this pristine land and
Mountain View CO -1 I CIty of P- To— ... d W -mg— (,,tybfpt—). Th -M -,n fortaking th, t— t,
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12/28/2022 Cathy Beatty
Thank you so —h f,, y— -t f,, thh, --ty d--- ab— th, P- To— send Gbif Co—, and
Mount— ViCb— — W, h 11 Opl=lfooltl'lto, I GbIf Co—ththrough, , ff,,t,, through
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1/6/2023 D,— Derry —I I have been a resident of Port Townsend since the 70's. Things for the most part
always "used"to run along smoothly and with the support of those that lived here.
Since the large influx of peoplewho have moved here along with that
expansion has come decision making by City (our employees and without us they
would not have jobs) that seems focussed on more expansion and to things
unnecessary
instead of maintenance to what already exists. Stop making
decisions for us and spending our money and instead listen to what the masses
saying. Repair the streets/roads come on they are at this point dangerous. I
would like all of you to drive to the entrance to Port Townsend sign at the stop
light/Mill Rd and turn right then attempt to turn left to head south on Discovery
Bay Rd. The intersection which is now very busy looks like a minefield and
desperately needs to be repaired. Those of us who have to use this intersection
regularly are tearing up our time and suspension. That $175,000 just spent for a
company to figure out the health and wellness center building design is a reckless
way to spend "our" money when the concept is just another luxury item instead of
the money being spent to support the viability of our town and fix what is already
here. Do whatever it takes to fix the pool, it's location is just fine... and leave the
Golf Course alone the more you seem to endeavor changing the less charm you
me here because of will disappear and then it will just look like any other
generic town. I loved the Opinion in the Leader this week by Nancy Errs., it
was very well written and my exact sentiments.
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Thankyou so —h foryourin tforth,, community d,sc-- about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Common,. We have-o,eat,onal contact for Me Golf Course Mati, effective through
December 2023 and — are in Me rn— of planning for the future, bath for the Goff Courre and Mountain View
Common,. We will add your taco mems to the planning,race„fort—d—t— In the meantime, please visit
this webpage for other way, you an-yinvolved in the conversat,on. Env—Port T—r—d Goff Course and
Mountain View Common, I City of P-T—...d W a -g— (c,tyofptu,). Thanks again for rak,rg the —, m
,aaa your tom —,.
Thank you so much for your -n t for tr,, commonty d-,cusson about the Port Townsend Gaff Course and
Mooren Vi—Commons. We have-o,eatonal contact for Me Goff Course Mat-, effective through
December 2023 and — are in Me rn— of planning for the future, bath for the Gaff Courre and Mountain View
Commons. W, .11i add your taco mems to the pi-r,rg process for consd—ton. In the meant me pi—, sit
his webpage for other ways you a n-y-nvo1—e the co - -- Port T—r—d Goff Course and
MounternV'ew Common, I Cry of P -T— ... dW-g—(ctyofptu,). Thanks ager for-,rgthet ,m
send your cam mems.
1/8/2023 Steven Whuff
Council ne"" previousry commemeo on inerviure..i�� gait courre oui my inougmsnave evorveo so Thankyou so much foryourinput forthiscommunity discussion about the Portiownsend Golf Course and
thisisan upd1 sending Mis tocity officiaisand Engage Portiownsend.l rnongiy believe M ouvtain View Commons. We have an opeationai contact for the Golf Course Mati'effect,, through
I—Im
that city parks should b, W, yet have a role in maintaining open space and natuai December 2023 and we are in the midst of pianningfor the future,bothfor the Go if Course and Mountain View
habitat They also offer an edu--,i opportueity to emphame the values of opee space and Commons. We will add your comments to the planning process fur consideatiov. In the m eantime, please visit
uai habitat My hope i' that the golf courre becomes a m ore accessible, moa varum, opee this webpage for other ways you a n stay involved in the conversation. Envision Port Townrevd Goff Course and
lantdsape, with native punt communities, and Mat there i' no hard surface or other ha rd Mountain View Commov' Gty of Portiownsend Washingtov(ntyoftus). Th-M g— for taking the h_tu
development its history as part of the lowland between Town send say and North Beach with send you,comments.
wetlands, and its use by indigenous plopu', should be d'libeately included
through svgnage and landscape plans. The golf course is bev'Hcia i as de facto open space and a
lana
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where nue-native plants like Himalayan blackberry, English holly and—laurel are naw
10,111, including native Douglas fir and noe+iative Lombardy popfarform artificial rows,
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and sten ivemaintevanceand resource inputs like irrigatioe are required. Instead, I hope to see
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-t— plant communities m a natuai landscape, managed as habitat for birds a rid other wiidiffe
asappropriate, completely ori a rgely replace the golf course. Kah Tai P-- a rid the wetland
ust be preserved and should be expded. Law impact walking tails should be created to
welcome and incrare access by thean
greater community beyond gaffers. If the area becomes a
mixed— pari:, including. om farmof golf, thoseusesshould occur oe a minority portioe of the
,u—ht gaff course area and should have limited impact oe the majority pomoe natuai
landsape and the environment Increased access and mixed use are plausible but should
ompiement the natuai landsape and not came at Its expense. If same farm of golf i' included,
and I recognrze the golf course i' important m same, adloates are encouaged to reach out to
the public with ideas and be open to compro-1. The economics are challenging but with
c -Ityasofutioeshouid be achievabu.Forbackguouhd Hive with my family including our 6th
gad' child, three blocks from the golf course. The golf course i' between home and my
daughters school is, but the golf course has-- welcomed Mase of us who are — pff—,,
eith'rits infartructure, signage or staff, So my daughter has avoided it whee waikingto and
1/6/2023 Stu Wrtght
council Thankyou so much foryourinput forthiscommunity discussion about the Portiownsend Guff Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have anop—honai contact for the Goff Course Mati'effect,, through
Asa resident m uptown that pays s,ghffl—t taxer, lam aI—ed to hear the city wishes to re December 2023 and we are m the midst of punning to, thefuture,both to, the Goif Courre and Mountain View
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purpose the golf course. l hope this does not happen. lasso know as a civil evolve.. how —h Co—, We will add your comments to the punning process for code h-, In the m eantime, please visit
wort: themeetsneed here. That would be a —h better use of funds, thiswebpage for other ways you a n stay involved m thecoe.... hoe . Envision Port Townrevd Goff Course and
Mountain View Commove I Gty of Port Town send W -mgmv (cityoftu.'). Thanks again for taking the time m
end your comments.
1/6/2023 Tim Whyte
council Thank you so much foryourinput forthiscommunity discussion about the Portiownsend Guff Course and
la gree with Nanry Err— m theopinioerectioeof the leader from January 4th. Let's highlight Mountain View co--:"e havean opeatiovaicovtact for the Gulf Course Mati'effect,, through
the value of the golf courre to th, —tunity for health and wellness and spend some money December 2023 and we are in the midst of pianningfor thefuture,bothforth'Goif Courre and Mountain View
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end your comments.
1/7/2023 Dan Owen
council Thankyou so much foryourinput forthiscommunity discussion about the Portiownsend Guff Course and
Why continueto spend filue—ted rceson, re"yEsethe Golf Course
Mountain View Common'. We have an opeatiovai covto-forthe Goff Course Mati'effect,, through
of I'g 'Wit.
while our streets are in dire need of repavi ng. agree with Nancy Erreca's1/4/2023letter
December 2023 and we are m the midstof planningforthe future,both for the Gaff Courre and Mountain View
in the Leader. lchal lenge the City Leaders to ask the taxpayers where our limited monies Common'. We will add your comments to the pfanningproce's forconsideation. In the m eantime, please visit
should bespedt. It will be'uteresting to see who s hews up for the Jan 11t'repurposing this webpage for other ways you a n stay involved m thec e. Envisioe Port Townrend Goff Course and
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seting at Fort Warden.Isu,pe,t the majority of attendees wil l be supporters for Mountain View Commove I Gty of Port To— ... dW-mgtov(cltyoftus). Tho h"a gain for taking the flmem
keeping the Golf Course. Life is full of choi—. I espe,tfully request you reconersidthis send your comments.
expensive and, In my opinion, III advised choice/iidea to repu,po,e our Golf Course and
spend those limited dollars ou repaving.
1/7/2023 Carol Dd'il
council Thankyouso much foryourinput forthiscommunity discussion about the Portiownsend Goff Course and
Although lamnotagoiferlamoppof tousin—Int—ty.,th raggt-1dhealth centerope
Mountain View Commons. We havean opeationai con to, 0, the Goif Course Mati'effect,, through
ved to Pi 26 yearsago in larch.fan open community with hikingtaiis,bachesand open
December 2023 and we are m the midst of pianningforthefuture, both forth'Goif Courre and Mountain View
spacl.Usivg this opee space is counter productive. Asa tax payer my request i' this city stop
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Commons. We will add he tannin for consideation. In the meantime, please visit
spendingourmuney oe consultants from out of nate and fix our roads 11111 on Morgan thil andou, yourcommentstot p gproce's
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roadsare full of p— holes. Homelessness, hi htaxesfoaln Senior CIL, leave thiswebpage forother waysyou an stay involved in the conversation. Envision Portiownrend Guff Course and
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Mountain View Co—, I Qty of Port Town send Warhington(cityoftus). Thank' again for taking the tlmem
their ham es and the condition'of aur roods should be the cities priorities not fa m health clubs
the majority of us a-ot afford send your comments.
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space/recreation forthe pubilc. Once open space is gone, its gone forever, and there are so
many recreational uses that are possible and that would make money. Also there are many
volunteers available to help with this property. Prerervation Alliance is right there with bots of
housing that wiii be provided. In any ase, there should be no housing on the golf course
property, and am a proponent tar housing, blg-nine. Jurt not Mere.
1/5/2023 Julia Cochane Engage PF
see the Goif Courre as Port Townsend', Cental Pari:. My vision i, that mostly this stays an op -
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penspce forvanous community uses. Possibly same affordable housing where the houses currently
—,And Mat the indigenous parts -such as the Camas Paine are turned over to the SK10—
people toawn and maintain. also hope that the d—ay of ail la nd,ac—, the meet from itis
upgraded to in dude up to 8 unit a partment buildings, town h—, etc. That like Cental Pari: it
n open space for pubilc ure,urrounded by dense developmentand family housing. I would
also love to see the return of the Community Pea Patch at the .....mf San Juan and 19th Street.
I do not support con. hg a golf course which allows very limited pubilc use.
Thanks for your coin mems. I jurt have a pont of c1 fiat on the nakehoiderswii not be -h, any dec sons.
They are charged with listening to the community and helping to make sure the information that eventually hoes
W Qty Council will be acuate and inf—tive. Thanks.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. We havean opeationai contact for Me Golf Course thm,effective through
December 2023 and we are in the midrt of pianningfor the future, bath forthe Goif Courre and Mountain View
Commons. We will add your commentsto the planning process for consideation. Inthemeahhi piea,e -
thiswebpageforotherwaysyouanrtayinvolvedintheconversation. Envision PortT--dGoif Courseand
Mountain View Commons I Qty of Portiown,end Washington (cityofptus). Thanks again fortakingthe nine m
end your comments.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have an opeationai contact for the Goif Course thm,effective through
December 2023 and we are in the mid. of planning for the future, bath forthe Goif Courre and Mountain View
Commons. We wiii add your coin mems to the planning process forc—d—t— In the mealy, please visit
this webpage for other ways you a n rtay involved in theconversation. En. ision Port T --d Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons I Qty of Portiown,end W a,hington (cityofptus). Thanks again for taking the nine to
end your cam mems.
1/5/2023 Joni Blanchard Engage PF
Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have an opeationai contact for the Goif Course Mati, effective through
Decem ber 2023 and we are in the mid. of planning for the future, bath for the Goif C_ and Mountain View
Commons, andthe pool. Weladd your comments to the planning process forcon,ideation. Inthemamime,
Seem,the'weiiness facility'and'whatto do with the golf course property' aretwo,epaatereai
please visit this webpa ge for other ways you can stay involved in the conversation. Envision Port Town send Goif
bigissues thatare be,hgdait with simultaneously, but, barely in the cine breath from what live
Course a nd Mountain Vbew Commons)City of Port Townsend Washington h ltyofptu,). Thank,again for taking
read ftom the Stakehoiderme mg, about the Goif Courre. Yet, I'veaim re ad that the Goif
thetbmeto send yourcomments.
Course i, in the tap running for this facility. Thatd be a shame m build it on the Goif C-- W,
have a place forthe pool -rebuild rt where its atl There's even a Sym and dressing rooms in that
building aireadyl Seems the mort'effic' wayto go. We have, many athletic drub, forworb
--- on yoga, pilate1, and fitness classes gaborel Our town has ample
opportunities far healthy phy,iai activities already. I'm confused about the need fora million
dollar (or way more)'0 under ane roof facility. W oOd thenear million dollars the Qty i, gemng
forthe Opioid Settlement be used forth, wellness facility, Seems up nearthe first Search
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facility must be built. Since your report indiate, our town is comp -,d ata low median income
demogaphic, I would hope any facility built would be free or lb. —t for the community to use.
Our homeless and poverty families are the ones who could use a facility full of health promoting
es the most) And ... that, along theline, of what this Opioid Settlement $$ should be used
fo,. —p the Soif course and the lovely native- land that the community members h—
,111 enjoyingfor years. Upg-mg the Soif course W Fiorfda standards s—,a bit lavish and
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1/7/2023 Tom Cade
Thank you so much toryourinput torthis community discussion about the Port Townsend Goff Course and
Mountain View Commons. W, have an op,ationai contact for the Goff Course than, effective through
used to live near Port Townrend, and would often play the PFGC. I stili return W Port Townsend
D,c,mb,, 2023 and we are in the mid. of planning for the future, both for the Goff courre and Mountain View
207 with my wrf,s,v,ai h—,s year, and we stay in our favorite hotel in downtown a rid play the
Commons. W, will add your -,ht, to the planning process for consid,ation. In the m, hhN please visit
PFGC.I wort: in the golf indurtry, and a m very familar with the statistics that show the value a
this webpage for oth,rways you can rtay involved in the conversation. Envision Port Townrend Goff Courseand
golf courre creates foranycommunity- tram an economicand corn munai rtandpoint, a rid forth,
Mountain View Commons Qty of Portiowns,.d Washingmn(cityofptus). Thanks again foraakingth, rimem
valuesrt brings and instills in young people.
send your comments.
1/8/2023 Nancy El— Engage PF Picki,bMh players, Dog pari: urers,Swimmers, Sports players. Imagine fth, city
Ihav,r,c,ryd ,yourcommentsand have a dd,d them to th, log.
decided to r,purpore youra sea beaus, it was no longerimportant m them or they
e how the golfers
needed Itfora reason th, Wt divulge. Well now you can Imagl tie'_
feel. There are lots of spaces in PF torah sport, players without having to --y
208 sports area. Check out th, county fairgrounds where great things a re happening. Please
support th, goifersand -I, them for alternate ores. This could happen W your
space.
1/8/2023 Nancy El— Engage PF
Qty council, city manager, stakeholders- have you ail don, your due diligence which you pledged
209 to doand looked at sav,ptgolt cam website W see the value of th, course and haw much it
b,n,Hts the communityI It you haven't then you are not doing th, jab citizens trust you W do.
You need W understand what could be destroyed. Thank you.
1/9/2023 En, Ding,id,in Engage PF
really think th, golf course area should be used tar other purposes. Itis currently not accessible
open space tar public ore (unless you enjoy the potential golf balls). Itis NOT wiidiff, habitat. It
210 es lots of water, fossil fuels, and likely landscape thermals. I know there is a new well hn
potable) tar land sape use, but its stili water (and electric[y to pump rt). I would like to see the
pat'ri, area expanded somewhat Same well planned housing with greenbelts could b,a suitable
se tar same of the area. And the concept of best use should indud, fallow areas.
1/9/2023 Monte R,inders Engage PFIcor rend th, Qty for taking on this challenging cos runny conversation. It not
easy. So goad jol,.
m puttingin a vote W keep t o golf course.
The golf course is part of "'r T- ... d , chaa.,r. Its a great place m ski, visit the
ve p,a walk through,orjunenjoy looking at. Its likely no m are expensive to
ain (at a basic level) than an aquatic center which also will be unable W pay tar
rtreif (see SARC forth, exam pie) and could be accommodated on the Mountain View
ampul anyway. It the issues with the golf courre are really about cart, then should we
be proposing replacement facili,t hsthat cart even mare when aur Gty rneetsare
failing a part? I would like to see same of Port Townrend's old, funky chaac[er
p and I would chaac[erize a 9fiol, golf course in the middle of town as part of
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that chaac[er 11 don't even play golf). Just haw I feel, but I could be open m different
,wpomnas with additional information. The condition of th, Cay rtreets needs to be
part of th, conversation though whenwe are to iking about where w spend money. This
an't be —pa rtmentairze and put on the back burner. My rtreet is a disaster,
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ha,, r,c,rv,d your comments and have added them to the log.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about th, Port Townsend Goff Course and
Mountain View Commons. W, have an op,ati If,,,tact for the Goff Course than, effective through
D,c,m ber 2023 and we are in the midrt of pianningtorthe future, bath forth, Gait courre and Mountain View
Commons. W, will add your corn merits to the pla -hg process for c-,,d,at,-. In the meantime, please visit
this webpage for other ways you antay involved in the conversation. Envision Port Townrend Goff Course and
Mountain View Commons I Qty of Portiowns,.d Washington (cityofptus). Thanks again for taking th, time to
end your comments.
Thank you so much toryourinput torthis community discussion about the Portiownsend Goff Course and
Mountain View Commons. W, have anopeationaicontact for the Goif Course than, effective through
Decem ber 2023 and we are in the rid. of pianningtorthe future, bath forth, Gait courre and Mountain View
Commons. W, will add your corn merits to the pla nning process for c-,,d,at,-. In the meantime, please visit
thiswebpage for other ways you an tay involved in the conversation. Envision Port Townrend Goff Course and
M _t- View Commons Qty of Portiowns,.d Washington(cityofptus). Thanks again for taking th, timem
send your cam merits.
1/9/2023 Regina HI Regina. There i, a survey that will be railed out tomorrow night at the open house. If you are unable to attend
the open h-,, we will part It aur website until next Friday, so please log on m take rt. Thanks.
Is there a survey forth, golf courre
1/10/2023 Nancy--
Hi- I just wanted to add a couple ofthi,g,I-,derifthey are Wirt they would have to listen to
peoples comments? W ere they cold to read comment log? After 4 months they have not heard
any In person comment, themselves only what you report Itwiu be about 4 Tonths tomarrwv
when they actually hear ting golfers They Tay not even remember mat keeping golf course Is
I option as naw the ideas of not keeping it ere ingrained_ Greet strategy Iwill give you that
There really is only Is person who asks questions and they all seer timid and hesitant to even
Take comments_ They had to be asked to came to open house where they could actually hear
Tent, and were waged that they Tight have to endure avid golfers say how Turn they want
to keep the golf course And finally you had to be asked to put up a board showing the golf
end its value to the canmunity_ If keeping golf course was really an option that board
shouldh been ab,i dins Anyway that is hwv the ath er side s.bek natjust Te da appreciate
you doing the board and listening_ Thank you_
1/9/2023 Kei,ey Caudebec Engage
IT unoersT. no mere isrremenoousrervorano rensio-aroundmego-course, as"Z""reo nom
public coin mento here and eirewhere. Havinggrown up in Port Townsend, get that ii been
part of the local land,mpe tar geneations, and I of course appreciate the view of the lovely
greenspace lined with poplars.I undo t -d that this space i, very dear to a percents ge of aur
m unity. However, as we envision haw else the space could be used, I urge -,"""i to
have open minds, mrsand hearts. As tar myself, I cannot support dump,-gthe million dollars of
city money thm, would take m bang the golf course up to speed (for those concerned about
potholes- I wander haw many could be filled with a million doilars�). And regarding the plea to
m u"green space;I would offer Mat it could potentia sly continue to be another green space
open m the public (perhaps anem
where you don't have to worry about getting concussed by a golf
ball while attemptinga leisurely walk). tnok,ng for mare information m inform y opinion, a
couple months ago I reached out m the golf course to ask haw many people from PT utilize it.
The perm- I corresponded with was notable to give me a number, but they emphasized that
many people who don't live in PT use the golf course too. Personally, rfrt turns out that Mere are
u es for that space Mat better meet the needs of more of our community members, then ,don't
wambaa part of the equation. Whatever decisionis made, it will d,mppmt
same portion of people. undemand Matta a passionate percentage of aur community, the golf
c very important lasso understand that when so many things are changing around 1,we
the comfort of feelingthat we can count on same things staying the mine. out what if
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iivngthat large space in a different way, bene fits even m a re comm unity It'ar Bemuse
change i, happening whether we like t or not The golf course has been there fora century,
while the world outside it has changed. W,naw have an increasing need tar Tedimi rervices in
Port Townsend, as well as a severe lack of housing that affects ail sectors of the economy
("'Ind,I g our hospital, EMS, service indurtry, construction, and Taritlur e). So, what if we can
directIt or indirectly mitigate those recent changes throughusing Me golf course duffers-tiyll
myself have not yet farmed an opon yet- I am cunnus to see what the piamm� gteaI has been
formulating. I want m he0 the options. I ask that we allow everyone's voices to be heard and
1/9/2023 Henry Amick
The golf course will oaf pencil auf unless if is expended fa l8 hales�Puf[he pool%Roc Cenferup
byJHC, close Blaine street, remove the aid building at Mountain View and expand the cause to
18 hales Charge out of town people Tarket rate, and in town residents the reduced rate_ Have
free family nights Keep the native prairie_
1/9/2023 daniei ince-emey
100% rapport the health/pool complex and while I could see same townhome, on the golf
'tin"',
I'd much other see it a,a large Tuitw,e park and would envision mountain view to be
connected W it by a nice budge.
1/10/2023 Sumo C. Walker Engage PT
Pim,edo not develop the golf course, A, a long-time resident, itis those open ,paces that aid
aur quality of life and community vision. do not golf and donot rare at ail if the golf course
would but dawn. However, rt it were to b, g, Men community outdoor tails
gardens, c,l isigns gathering/teachingspacesand outdoor recreation would benefit ail -not
just a few golfers.
Thanks for your comment. There will be reveal Council m em bars at the T seting if that i, who you are referzing
t...The full Coo,dl aim received a link to the comment log chat,, upda2d dally. They have been kept,, the loop.
Thank you so much fo"you"input forth„ community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have an opeat,o-aico-tact for Me Golf Course Mati, effective through
Decem bar 2023 and we are in Me Tidn of planningforthe future, bath for the Goif Courre and Mountain Vi—
C—
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Commons. We will add your coin mems to the pia nning process for c-ed—t— In the m eantime, please visit
thiswebpa ge for other ways you m n -y involved in the conversation. Envision Port Townre-d Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons I City of fs-T—rose-d W -mgm- (c,tyofptu,). Thanks again for taking the time to
send your --i
Thank you so much for your input for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons We have an opeat,o-aico-tact for Me Goif Course Mati, effective through
Decem bar 2023 and we are in Me Tidn of planningforthe future, bath for the Goif Courre and Mountain Vi—
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Mountain View Commons I City of fs-T—rose-dWa,hingm-(cityofptu,). Thanks again f—r Iengthe time to
end your —"i
Thank you so much foryour input forth,, community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Common,. We have an opeat,o-aico-tact for Me Goif Course thm,effective through
Decem bar 2023 and we are in Me -,J. of planningforthe future, bath forthe Goif Courre and Mountain View
Common,. Wewilladdyourcommentsto theplanningprocess forconsid—d-. IntheTeandl plea—,t
this webpage for other waysyou inn rtay involved in the conversation. En vis ion Port Townrend Goif Course and
MountainView Common, I City of fs-T—rose-d W a,hingm- (,,iThank, again for tak,ng the time m
,end your —"i
1/10/2023 Danielle Fodot Engage
PT Thank you so —i for y.urin t for this community discussion about the Port Town send Gbif Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have - opeationai contact for the Gbif Course Matis effective through
mwritmgt. express support for thec.t,.,d preservkt,. a rid rtewardship Kai Tai(gat5y) December 2023and we are in Me midrt ofpianningf.rthefuture, both forthe Goif Courre and M �untain View
aspairie bythe Native PiantSocietyandJamermwn S'Kiallum. The CamasPame reminds -,Commons. Wewiii addy.urc.mmentst.thepIk,,-gprocess for.—deat—Inth--time, plea —ft
otktime when nativepeople lived off our pre rent—, Qatay, through -00 management of this webpage for other ways you— tky involved in the conversation. Envision Port T,.—hd Goif Course and
Md plant and a nimai res.uaes. This living heritage providesa-tiailmi, to the indigenous Mountain View Commons l City of P- Tb— ... dWa-gh-(.ity.fpt-s). Thanks again for taking the t—t.
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history and present.Thi,pame also provides im portnt ahabitat for native plant and a nimai,who send your comments.
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1/11/2023 Mike Connor Engage
PT Thankyou so —h foy input f.rthi unity disc --n about the Port Townsend Golf Cou..,arid
While l like golf,swimming, and open space, and believe in decision criteria, the process doesMountain View Commons. Wehllllllpeati.naltllta.tf.rthe Goif Course Mati,effe.tivethrough
allow far gaming by stakeholders ducats,. IYd be urefui to have same c.mpamm�s of towns by Deem b" 2023 2023 and we are in the mid. of pianningf.rthe future, bath forthe Goif Courre and Mountain View
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ar and population who have managed m make ail three work. I'm not convinced the user Common,. We will add your comments to the planning process f.rc.nsideati.n. In the meantime, please visit
population i, big enough for a ny of Mese invertments as compared to other town priorities. It this webpage for other ways you a n nay involved in the conversation..vision Port T,.—hd Goif Course and
m,like both a pool a rid golfing might workbetterwith a prorate pa 1— sh. builds a rid naffs Mountain View Common, City of I` -Tb ... dWashington(city.fpt.-s). Thanks again for taking the t—t.
these things for a t.uristma-t and has a deal with the town for resident usage. s..dy.ur com merits.
1/11/2023 Bili Wire
Thanksf.ry.urp,bp ki. ladded yourproposal to the community input/comment log
This proposal creates affordable w bf.ae rental housing and stili leaved. rid for a sustainable
Par3 9fiole pubilc golf course. It would wort: like thisl. Sell approximately 4 acres of the 5, acre
Goif Course land tar private development creating funds to build affordable apartment rental
its for low/medium income —b— Meirfamilies. There 4 acres yield approximately thirty
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proceeds are -red to build apartment rental units. These newly private parcels provide additional
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. —I number of acres required may be less if siting a rid code
appilcat1. utilize Planned Unit Development te.hn -e,.4. t..ati.n of these lands to be
"="d by individual, knowledgeable of Goif Course lands and facilities. 5. Use apartment
r ntai 1-11 11 apartmentmanagement and staffing, maintenance and possibly m build mare
apartment units overtime.6. Ask JCF, Qiyap, Habitat —/,, another community verted
organizations to build and manage this. 7. With j-st k acres of land, 50 acres remain forthe golf
e which anfacilitatea Par Three 9fiole golf course. k, Apartment rental unitsare
prefeabie to private homes as they remain affordable without risk of being bought and resold at
maribet ate,. Further,they — be managed for affordable w.M.ae housing needs m i,
continuing way.
1/12/2023 Arlie Blankenship sea-tifuiPort T,.—hd has.serious leadership problem. Rather than fix prerent problems, our The Mayor rent me y—,t... kg,. Thank you f, .... di it. l have logged it on our com—tyinput/comment
city council seem s to look for new probiems.The city golf........swim mingp-I arida Iog for the Council c.nsideanon.Thankyou.
undab.ut - Kearney are ail non existing problems. W hat is a problem is aur ib new, meets.
Quh trying t, fix things Mataren't broken.— have a very p..,image. suggert you also repair
that.
1/11/2023 Greg Koss.w As a my resident 37 years lam very sk,pt—i that the golf co—, a n be alt Bred W further the Thanky-o,t.h to, y.u,i tforthis..mmunity disc-ssi.nab.ut the Port Town send Gbif Cou..,and
pubilc good without massive spending of city funds Asin moat project, the planning Mountain View Common,. We have-opeati.nai contact forth, Gbif Cou..e Mati, effective through
department getsah.id of, the c.rtsare g.ingm be farm excess ofwhatwa,p,—,dandthe December 2023 and we are in the mid. of pianningf.rthefuture,bothf.rthe Gbif Courre and Mountain View
benefits W the citizens of the city are going t. be less. There needsW be—ei,--tas faros Common,. We will add y.ur..m merits t. the pian process for o—d—t—, In them—time, please visit
spending. Many of us an Mink of other places those f-nds..uid be for the geneai good, this web page to,bther ways you— nay involved in th,—..rsat— Envision Port To.—hd Gbit Cb—,and
M .amain View Common, I City of Poll Tb— ... d Wa-gmn(.ity.fpt.-s). Thanks again for taking the t—m
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1/11/2023 Rosemary Streatfeild Thank you so much foryourinput torthis community discussion about the Port Townsend Goff Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have an opeationai contact for the Goff Course Matic effective through
December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the future, bath for the Gait Courm and Mountain Vi-
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Pleasedonotdevelopthe go it course into hard surface d111lo -t.The fact that you have Commons. We will add your com mems to the planning process for consideation. In them -h—, please visit
llowed 2(at leart)we lkhd areas to be developed does not give— confidence Mat you will not this webpage for other ways you an tky involved in the conversation. Envision Port Towmmhd Goff Course and
pursuethis avenue.)do not support golf per se, and would other it was allowed m revert W Mountain View Commons l City of Port T-11nd Washington(cityofptus). Thanks again for taking the timet,
I__ and paths tareveryone to um, but if that is not`
would prefer it W -Y as is. Our send your comments.
co is part of the PF landsape. But why doesrt have to be upgraded to some golf
organhation's rtandard1 This is Port Townsend after all, However, rf the loci goiters want it to
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course, Men they need W share it. There iso sign that says W eico—To M,
but I
walked on it and was told m leave (hard ball hazard). Isn'tit passible to allow goiters W use it
part of each day, and other residents the remainder? Search 1/11/23, 5'.52 PM Submission 4176
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ingout W ebmaii Employee I linking Polity I And, yes, PF needs a decent sized pool tar
W se 11 am not a swimmer either), open at reliable h—, but do we really need a
Sports Complexi There are 3 fitness gyms in Me area that know of Couldn't the current pool be
expanded into the space in the YMCA building. Move the police HQ m a better location, if
tie scary. KPTZis movingm Fart Worden. The Food Bank could be relocated. Aim the dog
re pari:. Or, a pool could be built on a hard space somewhere (such asa church parkiot
which is only used on Sundays, when the pool isn't open anyway). I hope you will give these and
other suggestions goad thought before you make any decisions. W e need afforda bie housing,
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but there are lots of places to provide such spaces, mch as open lots around current
residential areas. Another hard surface in whati, green sp
hello, i— a jc resident living on to--t.,island.i— an active m ember of ptpc as well as
participating,, yoga at madrona, along distance runner and enjoy aur loci toad coop and
downtown and uptown shopping. i have been a co-owner of Provisions, a deliatessen in PF and
--dwith PF school dirnfctin changing aur school toad y—a s well as wori:ed asa chef in
JGH kitchen, my interest in this pj:1 links to my BA degree in urban planning and design and
alsmin
o my ht the health of aur community. i tees young high school goiters may need this
facility as itis a neighborhood court,. i also know that tails through this green belt would be a
goad link to ft warden and as a runner and cy,i,., it would be advantageous to access the y a
and downtown, if tails were available. if viable, other mixed uses would be advantageou,
fredenck law oI—tead had the to re sight to develop cental pari: and so many parks throughout
—,prov zgthe much needed green belts to keep aur com mutinies healthy. i believe
mixed um torthis space is essentia i. thecptpc has --d diligently in wising funds in
coopetition with th, city for the new hit view court, they a—fabulous and naw heavily used.
cou
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highly ded. it seems worthy to develop m ore —t, in this location and
perhaps reducing the size of the dog park. yes, dog parks are needed yeti see this land to be able
to be shared. it appears that other dog parks in the city are only used mch asthe ane west of
chetra—ka pari:. smaller me dog parks would be preferred in a city so that people can utd— in
their awn neighborhoods without Baa parking need, in terms of keeping recreation in ane
place, pickiebaii is not sorted in neighborhood settings due W the noise that is created. the
demandtar pickiebaii is forever growing and currently there are— court, available and none in
the county.,, summation, the health of aur community is a product of aur green space, fa—,
schools, health care, business and recreation.
i appreciate that the city is prioritizing efforts to plan for the recreational needs of the
cammuntty.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goff Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have anopeationaicontact for the Goif Course Matic effective through
Decem ber 2023 and we are in the mid. of pianningfor the future, bath for the Gait Court, and Mountain Vi—
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iewCommons. We will add your com mems to the pla nning process for c-,,d,at,-. In the meantime, please visit
this webpage for otherways you a n tay involved in the conversation. Envision Port Towmm�d Goff Courseand
M -ht—View Commons City of Portiownse.dWashingmn(cityofpt.us). Tha nks again for taking the Time to
send your comments.
1/12/2023 George Bush fart tilt,', open house was very .,Pd.,. I was especially --—d with Chris Jones'
prerentation and forthright a nsw.rs to qu.rtions. H, ft— statement that any additions or
chang.stothe go if course murtb, f,, ,t unicipa l— was,t os[ welcome. My only hesitation in
that regard is the remote passibility that a convoluted definition of"muninpai use" could
mehowinci,d,housingasa benefit to the Municipality. Unea sines, over thatissu. could be
salved if the Council and City Manager would simply state plainly -no housing, would love to
slop harping on it.2,1 am left with ane very dirturbingissue b.ingbantered about -m ovingthe
pool/gym/.xercire complex tothe goifcours.. ib,g111- bthe shearsize of the complex and
sorry parking would greatly encroach on the golf course. Considering the Paine will be left
nepiace, the only way W expand such a large structure (and suffinent parking) would be m take
ut the p, --area, the golf workshop, and a large part of hole 41. (assuming the logiai place
ouid b.wh.r. the current golf office/rertauant sits) Not only would such a large
re loam over the Course, but would greatly diminish the future Course--g,rabilay to
.fflci.ntly manage his bu-11,.3.The current loation of the pool is the m art logiai, and likely
the fart-p.nsiv. choice for the pool complex. Wh is buil; the cart of removing the
aid pool and building would have to be done, so wouldn't it be mart cart effective to make
demolition and new construction an ail inclusive contact. (I remember the Council prerentation
made by Jeff Randaii same years ago dispiayinga very goad Ht for the new coin piex on the
%tingsIt, - also remember his.rtm
iat, of 8 W 12 million doilars)4.Thr., other small ssues.
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Frrt-if the pool coin piex includes health club amenities like acquetbaii, weights, and exert..
machines, the two loci Health Clubs would be put out of business -is that really what we want
to do to.xirting loci busi11111 Also, a question was asked -what recreation is planned f-1111and younger on the Cb -0 -the obvious answer is GOLF! A competent Course Manager would
definitely develop youth golf progams. Finally, noticed the flow chart that displayed the
process from study W plan to decision appeared W show the Council r...ivinga singi, option
ath.rthan a ange Ilat lean 2 or 3) of options. Is that yourintent�l look forward to future
"tea.— with the planners and .,penally the city Council.
1/12/2023 Dean D.sil.t
Regarding the golf nurse properry...whatl, It that we — not do In PT today that we would only
be able to if we closed or r.purpos.d the golf coursed With the golf course intact, residents and
vis e able to play golf in PT. if the golf course is dared we will lore a recreational
opportunity currently.nioy.d by many residents and visitors. Goif does require a significant
u tot land dediat,d to that specific use.However, people in PT, not currently prevented
from participatingin other outdooracmrties. There is space and places for nearly ail
other recreational pursuits Certainly mare pickle ball courts, a nicer pool, bike paths, etc., would
begreat, but we at least have those things in place naw. And we have a golf course naw, enjoyed
by many of aur citizens and visitors to ourmwn. Closing the course would eliminate a wonderful
a entry. Whatcan't we do l n PT that we mind only do if the courre is d o,ed7 Do we a dually
nese thed that particular piece of land far same other us.' The fact that same residents choose not to
e Of nurse Is nota good reason for dosing It down. don't use the skate park, pool, or
pickle ball courts, but am re ally glad we have them forth— people who like to. I—glad we
have the golf courre, coo Ler, keep the PT golf nurse.
Thanks for your reflections about the open house and tallow up comments. I have put them on the comment log
and they will be t--tt,d to the City Council.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
—ht— View Commons. W. have an op.atio lft-tact for the Golf Course thatis effective through
December 2023 and we are in the midrt of pianningforthe future, bath for the Goif Cour.. and Mountain Vi—
C— t -1, W,
iewCommons.W. willadd your coin merits to the pia nning process forc—d—t—In thea ti -,please visit
this—bpi, g, for other ways you an rtay involved in theconversation. Envision Port Townrend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons City of Portiownsend Washington (cityofptus). Thanks again fortakingthe time to
end your comments.
1/12/2023 Polly Thurston
Thank you so much for your"put for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. We have an opeationai contact for the Goif Course fl- is effective through
December 2023 and we are in the midst of pianningfor the future, bath for the Goif Courre and Mountain View
Unfortunately I dit,not able to attend the eating(,, to)sehadulad for Env on Port
Commons. We will add yourcomments to the planning process forc—de b-, In the meantime, please visit
Tow end Golf Cou end Mountain View Commons. l would I ally like to hea F the
this webpage for other ways you a n rtay involved in thec n. Envision Port Townrend Goif Course and
idea and participafesin th is planning. Without hea -i ng eve Iyfhing about if and allthe
Mountain View Commons, City of Portiownsend Wash"gton(cityofptls). Thanks again for taking the flmem
possibilities, do flava a few ideas I'd like to share Eirsf and most imp, rtanf-The
Camas Praise needs to be TOTALLY pra,aly ed and maintained, and possibly expanded.
send your comments.
My understanding e the Ioca1 fnb es and Native Plant Society are maintaining d now.
Whata great tribute to aurin digeno us enc astrals rid culra ntco m m unity. Many yea rs ago
1 helped plant this prairie along with Leslie Schrod I, S 4'" and 5'" grade class from (what
as than) MountaiL View School —what an honor to be part of that, AND what a thing of
�Slo
BEAUTY—did you see tYie flowers, think this area should be expanded. would love to
to have educational event,. to tell the ,tori.,. the history of camas and
Inwave
digenous people,hav e an objection to a golf c ooise In the middle oftown. The
San, efhing that selves relafivary few people (and possibly mostly aide rweal[hY white
es). This land could be a lovely park open fob people for walking and recreation. If
ould be community ga dens forall. o a Food Forest. Perhaps d could include housing
IIIlow-income people and working families. which is so desperately needed in our
calunity. Or 1 could include tiny houses to house homeless people as they transition
to other h, using. Let's make this space more inclusive and more available forpeople of
loges. HowlhavelodeedtowalkinthegolfcouIeandenjoythebeautyofourtown-
Bufway foo dangerous to get h d by a golf ball. and not ma infained as the ecosystem of
beauty It could be (since ifs primarily mowed grass). ICs great that tfie geese (birds) have
a place to land during migration. s e of itcould be maintained for their use
foo. Please consider mak no this land more incIds- AND please preserve the camas
prairie. ook forward[, more communifywid I d scu,sion, on this subject.
1/12/20235anda StowellIwant
to say thank you w everyone involved in the public open house M Ft Warden Commons
Thanks for the feedback. I will add it w Me com mast logand we will address these issues a tour sea open b—,.yerterday
evening. Much wort: paid off, great attendance supported by extending the space inw
the sea room, and this was all well managed. I do appreciate Mat there may have been same
om issio ns to keep the eventfocused. eut Mere were mine issues not well covered in
thisianal
ni[iai presentation, that need attention at same paint. A signiflanthc[orforfuture
planning everywhereis water consumption. The City needs m provide residents with adequate
dunking water, and mus plan tar drought years,climate change, and environmental water
requirements (for salmon, etc ). The importance of this should beea
made clr. A golf course
erthan any otheracnvity we might want in this loaton. Surely this is a
i
signiflant factorfor Gty planning here, and.... where around the country; water conservation
ec scary alma'[everywhere. I would abler that water not needed for m ore cancel fres flow
11 11, salmon rtreams.. The prerentation did notinciude any information about the golf course
Hnanciais overthe part 5-10 years. Many people Mink that by paying rent, the golf course
providesa neti1-2 the City, eut it see ms this may not be to—lit is necessaryw know mare
eobligations as landlord, and what the golf course company actually
about the City maintenan""b" g"",
pays in annual rent for Ire of approamatdy 50 acres of City property. It appear' from the City
website p—mg, that golf course Ise. over J, OD0,000 gallon' of City waterforirrigm—, and
e addition smaller amount in the facilities (cafe, rernoom, & geneai Ire). However this is
made cleans any useful fashion. I am piecing this information together from confusing
"formation on the City website, and may have rt all wrong.
1/12/2023 MA— Moller
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
A couple suggestions Llf the golf co—,-ys, add frisbee golf This would erred young and
Mountain View Commons. We have an opeationai contact for the Goif Course Matic effective through
aid. Or keep the duving ange and a dd frisbee golf Share time between both. 2, large play a sea
December 2023 and we are in the mid. of planning for the future, both for the Goif Courre and Mountain View
witha wooden "play on"ship. This could be madelocally. Gig Harbor has one. Kids to vert) Maybe
Commons. We will add your com mentsto the planning process 0, —d—b-, In the meantime, plea,—d
a ter feature pari: for kids w play in during wenn summer of-ths3. Since the soils vary so
this webpa ge for other ways you a n -yinvolved in the converrab- Envision Port Townrend Goif Course and
much create com m unity ga rdens,vegie and flower.4. Df course tails. accessible for ail. 5.
Mounts" View Commons l City of Portiownsend Wash"gtnn(cityofptus). Thanks again for taking the flmem
PckiebM1 courts miniature 9.166. Think young adult, kayak teaching pond 7. With the pool
send yourcomments.
improvements add a weight room and basketball/multi Ise room.8. Nan profit ",slob living with
livingavailabie forattendants, cue's and nurses. Provide doyen within the facility. know this
idea is beyond the city's ability but with the aging population, someone should consider it. It
would keep turnover of employees low and create a wonderful community W benefit ail
involved. Need me m expound on any idea let me know. Thank you for doing a ii this,
1/11/2023 Patti HO ,ki
Quh. the tum outf—h, open houre—ght Jan 11, —y left without usingth,ir dot, as
they/we could not get t, the boards with the big crowd. One negative comment l heard repeated
Thanks so much forattendin heo houseand for Hections. Yourcomments have been added to the
by 4was.,thinglike c1, rdyth, golfers have ma d,th,ir-- heard and they were somewhat 9t Pen yourre
pandered mo. l did notagr I'- been 100king over the meetlngvideoy agenda since this rem moony input log. Thanks --
rted.
1/11/2023
1/11/2023 marl: leavens
WIH there be a n opportunity for highs—lers0r 0th,rsch-I age childrenW vote"with green Thanks so much fors..ding your thoughts aboutengaging youth in the process. The school dirmc[ will be rending
and 0-ng,rtickers on potential uses for the golf courseand MT View similar to what we did the survey to ail ofth,irfamili,s, and l will b,--mg—lb, High School withth,boardsformari:ingth,ir
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tonight?Thanks preferences. Thanks for the comments.
1/11/2023 Kate Chadwick
slopes on a power paint (I thought this was great inf—tion) but itis a oath,, thingt, physiaily
Thank you fora great open houre session —ght at Fart —d- including making excellent
childcare a�a8abie (the kids had a blast, and were even ted. amazing). That helps to remove ane
0f the b— for families t, partcipat'. Apart from the online session tomorr0w,l'm int.rert.d Thanks so m uch for 111dingy—th-ghts aboutehp,gy-th in the process. The school dirmc[ will be rending
in wheth,,there are oth,,H,, s of rtakeh0lder engagement pia nn,d with the community?For the survey to ail of their families, ands will be presenting at the High School with the boards formarmg their
example, will you be reaching out to schools fork ids/families input? I couldn't help notice that preterenres. Thanksforth,comments.
younger 9111-1011 were under+,presented atthe meeting. The kids will have great ideas, and
e the narand long-term I, ..fi lanes/users of the spaces. Alk, placing the concept boards at
237 1/11/2023 Rena Muroran
Iib -nes, grocery stares, f—", mark-- nd oth er pubilc places could be another way t0 gain
broader input than those able t0 attend an in-person/virtual meeting. Thank you
1/11/2023 Mary P—
Thanks for your attendance at the open haus, and your suggertion of l,mng the gene -I pubilc walk the course
before the neo open houre. I will wort: with Dur team and see what we an d0. Thanks again.
Thanks for your email and attendingin theopen house. You are right.. if Isco Imp —t f,, them —,, to
participate and feel heard. Thanksfor b—, a part of that.
hanks for your foil0w hp comment, on the open house. Itis helpful t0 unde tand what is im portant W everyone
as we explore this topic. Thanks again.
Thank you s0 much for your input for this community discussion about the Port Townsend G01f Course and
Mountain View Commons. W, have an op, -ti If,,,t-ct for the Golf Course than, effective through
D...m b,r 2023 and we are in the midrt of pianningtorthe future, bath for the G01f COurre and Mountain View
Commons. W, will add your corn mems t0 the planning process for conside-tion. In the meantime, please visit
this w,bpa g, for other ways you a n tay involved in the conversation. FfNisi. Port Townrend Golf Course and
M ountainView Com mons Qty of P- Tb— ... d Washington(city0fpt. us). Tha nks again for taking the 1me to
send your --t,
1. THANK YGN for the wonderful open house this evening. 2. 1 learned about the relalonship the
of 2020 P ROS to the current p1bi-3. 1l earned about same of the topog-ph—a challenges,
deeds,pn0rinputthe community and tram the Q&A.I havear h-. The PT G01f Course is
pubilc but is notopen t0 the z g.Ifing pubilc. I wa s able t0 use snow shoes from Dur PT lib-ry
(THAN K YQUb the week before Chnit—and thb—ghiy ,njoy,d seeing PT in a different way
from perspectives I —tree waikingth,penm.t.r of the course. I would like t0 suggert that
p,,t, the second open haus, that there could be -%w:: Orth,,, times that the gene -i
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pubilc could be provided access t0 the golf course. amkc learner. It is helpful t, see of
slopes on a power paint (I thought this was great inf—tion) but itis a oath,, thingt, physiaily
walk a space and understand the opport-ItIll and const -lots -d asmciat.d casts tar uses on
the property.I think stickers are very helpful. I did not place t'k,rs on two things highlyvalu,-
pubilcarcand,duationai signage. Perhaps,dual0nal signage and pubilc art could be -
-911d and integ-ted into the vision of the future ores as part of place making. 50 an there
maybe a way t,ask the community If these components a re valued at the second open haus, as
omponent of placemakinginrtad ata stand alone ore?Thank youogain for engagingand
,duating0urc_hity
237 1/11/2023 Rena Muroran
Thanksfor the welmmingand lnformative meetlng This eveningatthe Commons. Irs so
importantfor aur community t0 participate and m feel heard. e -vol
1/11/2023 Sand- ST—H
Thank you forth, 1/11/23 open house presentation at Ft. W Orden. It — ,,y useful and 1 look
Hansard t0 m a re oft his. felt there was ane sig,ih_ and puzzling 0m ission. the pubilc needsW
understand the current financial sit t— for the golf course over the part5-10 years. Nothing
as --at the meeting. Isth, golf course a net revenue (however small) for the Qty? Oris
tuaily an expenses, given the maintenance obilgations and the watert have reviewed the
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of—tion on the Qty website and is jurtina d,q t. and very confusing. There needsm bea
maty --that d—fi,s the situation, as many, golf Search 1/12/23, 2'.32 PM Submission
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Sit—ap ingoutI W,b—1 I Employee I linking Mabryco support.rsar, convinced that
the courre provides net income t0 the City. It appears W me that rf there is really a netincome,
the amount is minimal and insufficientW be s,gnifiaht W planning. I would love t0 get better,
d— inform- ion
1/12/2023 Donna H.ng... Id
thinkitsa poorus..f 58 acresasa golf courre. Few people golf and at the -teat
use, rc can't possibly be a revenue source forth, city. It should remain predominately
Thanks for your email and attendingin theopen house. You are right.. if Isco Imp —t f,, them —,, to
participate and feel heard. Thanksfor b—, a part of that.
hanks for your foil0w hp comment, on the open house. Itis helpful t0 unde tand what is im portant W everyone
as we explore this topic. Thanks again.
Thank you s0 much for your input for this community discussion about the Port Townsend G01f Course and
Mountain View Commons. W, have an op, -ti If,,,t-ct for the Golf Course than, effective through
D...m b,r 2023 and we are in the midrt of pianningtorthe future, bath for the G01f COurre and Mountain View
Commons. W, will add your corn mems t0 the planning process for conside-tion. In the meantime, please visit
this w,bpa g, for other ways you a n tay involved in the conversation. FfNisi. Port Townrend Golf Course and
M ountainView Com mons Qty of P- Tb— ... d Washington(city0fpt. us). Tha nks again for taking the 1me to
send your --t,
240 1/12/2023—I-yiklock lam nota golfer but l do.nJoyth.opennessofth. golf course. Please keep it a golf courre.
Thankyou.
1/12/2023 CaigW id- Thankyou so much foryourinput forth,, community discussion a bout the Port Town send Gait Course and
Mountin View Commons. W. have an opeat,onai contact for the Goif Course that,, effective through
wouldprefer that the golf course be modified to include moa mixed use. What Portiowm... d December 2023 and we are in the mid. of planning for the future, both for the Goif Courre and Mountin View
entry lacks and needs are spo, fani,that am be—din the winter. The golf course itself Commons. W. will add your con mems W the planning process f,, —d—t— I, the meantime, please visit
is highly seasonal with so little —t,, thetieswinterthatrtaveagesienthan luserPER DAY.What thiswebpage forother waysyou an nay involved in theconverration. Envision Portiownrend Goif Courseand
my preference means,, that 1—mit of indoor space useful for winter would need m be built. Mountain View Commons l City of Portiowm... d Wa,hingtn (c,tyofptu,). Th -M g— for taking the timet
241 Use would probably be ---by mak as pace that accommodates multiple sports.Th, send your comments.
biggert problem "h11sng city tax money to upgrade the golf course i, that there is no end in
sight— on.y would be needed again and again.l'mconvertimg a lawn I.toa meadow. IYsa very
labor intensive project beaus. unwanted (invasive) ,penes appear m the meadow no matter
haw well ane-—, the land (think Himalayan blackberry, man -native gasses, mon+iame
clovers, Scotch broom, Hemlock and etc). Converting the golf course into pane would require a
large ,--t group W weed the whale area multiple times per year. My conclusion
is that it would be impa
1/12/2023 Katherine Darrow I think I may have talked to you about this on Wednesday might. The County i, undergoing their awn r.novattn of
Tho mk you for ho-i"g the open h—,lar[night, 11—-2023. I submitted a que—, but it the fairground,and we would be happy to share our r.,uit,w,th them -
m hopes of a greatercoilaboation.Thanks.
no read,sal' d like Wask a gain here m hopes of receiving a m re ply. Is the City of Port
Townrend coilaboating or conf.mng with Jefferson County to i, pari:and recreation needs
242 that are within or proposed forth. City? It so, what kinds of amenities are or could be provided
on County land that are being proposed torthe Goif Course/Mountain View areal SpenHcaily,
the County Fairgrounds appear to be am area that i, underdeveloped orat leas[ m need of am
upgrade tar many recreational fanim—, Jur[ as i, the golf course. I'm wondering if mm. of the
proposed am.n,t,es on aur"nicker boards" at the open house might be mare appropriate fora
ning of the Fairgrounds, other than on the Gait Cours
1/12/2023 Jame Which., lattended the 1/11 community m eetlmg. The consultant missed on ..ramp,. of i, repu —d Thanks for the email and m—
ft— Iwill pass It a1-9..
golf__' Part Wdiow. There i, am aid, un used 9 hale golf course that has been convertedW
hiking and biking tails. Here i, a link to the map.
243 httpr,//portiudiowr.mrt.com/wp cont-/uploads/2015/10/20ll_Hikimg_ Tail_Map_Reduced.p
df I'm wrlous why this was n,t,,,I,d,d In the samples given at the meetng, erpedally since It
a cios to ham
1/12/2023 Kelsey Ci,—b-I fly, thanks so much for the wort: you are doing on ail this- I telt really good a bout last might s Thanks for the email and suggertion. I wiii pass it a longand consider it for the neo open ho—.eetlmg. I do want to point out that mea time rt would be goad to make rt ciearerin advertising,
244 that there was a presentation and Q&A at set times -"open house" makes it sound like you an
Just wander m/out whenever you want -glad I happened t amv. on time. Also m the future, I
would request that the consultant uses bigger tont m presentations=) as biga, will Ht on the
screen. Thanks a gain.
1/13/20238 —b— Cecil Unfortunately l a m not able to attend the m„ting(,o far) scheduled for Envision P -T -send Thankyou so —h foryourinput forth,, community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
Goif Course and Mountain View Commons. I would really like to hear th.idea,and participate i- Mountain View Commons. We have an op—t—i contact for the Goif Course that,, effective through
this planning. Without hearing everythingab—, and dl the possb1110e, l do have an Idea I'd December 2023 and we are ,-themidst of planning for the future, both for the Goif Cour, and Mountain View
like to share. We as a progressivesweiild-- town have a remarizbie opportunity, -from of Commons. We will add your comments W the planning process for—d—t— In the m eantime, please visd
s. Both for the vitality ofour town and a s a leadership promtypein the country. Please hear m e this webpage for other ways you a n-yinvolved,- the co-,.,,aly.. En vision Port Townm-d Goif Course and
out, have ream- W believe that the conte. fo_chaos we um as a,tandard for planning Mountain View Commo-, Gty of P-T-sendW-mgton(Ciyofptu,). Thank,again fo, -mg the t— t,
purposes i, not a ccuam and needs m be reviewed, l am part of a professional mien.. -bared send your comm, -t,.
-- here that fully agree with this. Our ---regarding timing and extent of ocean rises
are utof date.What if we slowed down o-th. um of the golf course soa relevant and
remari:abie idea might be expiored? W hat rf we really took a look at what x coming, and likely
er than we want to accept? Given the land we own, what If we.. .d.red m mg the
Water Street business up into a be"t fui, welcoming, ecolog,aily co-„ dean business centre
where the golf course i,? And aur shoreline beam, a sanctuary of anoth,, —OThe Qu,nait
245 Indian—,on ee,the —tmgon the wail,and despite ail pushback,,—mg their whale town
up the hili, with the future geneations in mind. Theirmbai leader Fawn Sharp would have a lot
to share with us about their thinking, their processand their fu -ding. This i, ane loaf example of
truly forward thinking. What do they know that we are not paying att,-tm-td?
(https//tooikitciimate.gov/are-studies/quinauityndi- aria--piansviilagwrelocat,o-)We
should not writ, this off just beau e we inverted so much recently m i-fa,nucture on Water
Street Ler, bke a gulp and look honestly atihls. Iwouid also like to say thatthere is money
a bie tar boid moves. Please do not write this off beau e it i, too expe-sive. As I write I
,µthinking. bout a powerful and seemingly u -likely community process m Port A-g,les that led
oau usec
dision to take down the El.,a d—,Th,, could be an app --sty fora hila",
unity --dear— Iwouid be glad W sit m- think tank that could do same couageous
and out of the box thinking, or at least consult thy- about haw m go about this. I know every
beforcern this letter,, the tip of an iceberg. Plea e, lets look at this. What , this opportunity
e us now really abouts Perhaps the timing,, right. Gabfui for your.,„unary—b,
1/14/2023 Hai teskme-hal Thinking of our predous green,pa,e(golfCour,e)....Tlmothy E g -1 -his book It the Wl-d Thankyou so m uch foryourinput forth,, community dim-- about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
espresres my feelings.”Natoli We,terner,appredate whatthey a re entrusted w ith,b--hof Mau -talo View Commo-,. We have an opeatm-ai co -tact for the Goif Course that,, effective through
the rert of the world cerbi-ly does. I Sawa ma p of the We,tpubil,hed m the G,rznan-language De—be, 2023 and we are m the mid. of pia —hg for the future both for the Goif Coureand Mou-talo View
edd, bf the magazine Geo. It was.conte, poary ma p, but what it h,ghkghmd was the Commo-1. We will add your cum l,ht, to the pia nning process for—d—h— In the m, anti,,, please visd
246 visible empire of the part. the nativembes and their hom elands, the wild a mmol herds and this webpage for other way,you an-yinvolved m the co -....aria-. E- ,, - Pol Townehd Goif Course and
the,rio-gam hg ,the silent cities of the A--, The map also showed.0diffe refuges, Mau -talo View Com mons l CIty of PoltT-sendW-mg—(c,tyofpt u,). Tha nk, again to,—the-mem
n anal pari:,, and the blank spots protected as formai.,Id...es,. It was everythingthe aid send your comments.
lld of Europe does not have—retia-, of pubIh, land bigger than some muntrie, and a past
yet to be fully dedph... d. Think of whatsh,,Id never be bke- away"
1/15/2023 Jane Wiaher Tha-k you for yourre,po-,e. Iwo, atWed... day's meet -g at Ft Word,, and submitted.
quertion about whether the city had usage data o- the golf tour,. The answer that the
nt gave was that It did have data,a-d Itwason the dNs w ebs,te. l have looked at the Thanks for your email. The Qty has usage data that is reported m us each m o-th from the current opeator. It is
documbents o- the sad —t date usage data(there is same fi__i data, and water
usage, butneither of those a re usage data of golfers, which is what l am asking for). l emailed o- the dy', websb, th, E-vislo-page underCurr..topeattons. You will see two do--r-dt,d,"
242 the my manager asking to be pointed to the data but have not gotten arespo-,,.Coit you point revenues and round, 2-2019, and revenue and rounds 2020-2022. Wedo not have data from Discovery eay,
W the data? My broaderthan the one thatwa,read, as lasso asked whether but we do have a golf expert that,, evaluating the course rounds,experience, and what makes a viable course so
y quernon was re he is looking at this. Thanks again for your comments.
the, had data o -usage of the Discovery eay course aI— so if the my ha s that data, please lam su
point me to that as well. I know this i, a bury rime for the ny, but I would appreciate an answer.
Thankyou.
1/15/2023 David Hamngm- Hello,lam--mre-d m parte patng m the concepts and d---, re'. the golf coo dM Tha -ff're V .Cit ke..l :,l:ll l ie.l
240 V'ew ground, In lookngatMe Cy Counci webs, tree the p—,— —tmg, a, —H a, th, J Ib,,,,
oriel just m'„ado -the 12/13th ofth,, -th. W'ii there be adda -ai m eerngsto attend and its ,tj..t .. t.c.
discussin the futures Tha f.r.yur.......................:....I: edizc lzsion.
1/17/2023 David Ken
1/17/2023 Charles Steurer
1/17/2023 Jahn Delaney
a .ntingtb offer an expanded idea forth, PF golf c,—,that maintains a golf use a nd
expandsother options. 1. Redesigned as a type of"links" style course by g—fly expanding th,
ting Kah Tai Pame feature throughout th„ours, intermixed with and in—p—ted with the
golf fairways. It was th, type of ,ours, developed in S,otla nd's coo -a areas. The Kah Tai Paine
,nt ft[s p,rf,greatly—
ctly with a mks'rtyl1 courre. This. -Id th, Kah Tai
Palm. It. -Id be a modified "links” style m accommodate exirtingtrees (beaus, there
er many of th,s,on th, S,otland -,t) -d bth,r natua i features. 2. The tours,—ld be
,designed asa 9hole- ParIt you a re not familiar.ith"links" tyI,--e, they make expansive
use of th, natuai environment (here the Kah Tai Pain,) as part of th, course.
Thanks tar such an enlightening bpening public session on this,ity proi,R las[ Wednesday night.
have high hopes that your pro„ss.iii get us where we need tb go. Personally, I hope th, golf
stays in mme version. The town has so many hiking bppbrtunities, particularly in Fart
W Orden and along the beaches, that I don't understand a need t, pot more In the areas under
discussion. Sflii ...I .bold like tb make thefallowing sugg,mons, however, after th, pam,ular
ch
e oices hmade
ave been .--t, a Pb t Tbwnsend Athi,t, Club and fold ,xistingfacilities
(pool -d golf course for example) and future ones (like pi,kiebMl and basketball and tennis
ts, ping pang and pbbi tables, etc) iota tt2. Give every tax pay,ra family membership in
such a club. This.ouid encouage participation and use by ail age groups. Outsiders, of course
.bold have tb pay tb use there facilities; club m—It", ouid pay for such things as lessons a nd
equipment rental, etc. Obviously, scheduling us,. -Id b,a P" "Y
Some simple, tanspar,nt
signup ability .bold be necessary.3.This resulting club ,bold also sponsor joint spo,tmgactivRies
and events.There might tartercompetition andprovidefdn1a singoppo,t—tieAA1,bt,-ai
n could be created, but rfrevenue is Tow adda mod -club tee tb annual tax bilis.
Anyway, I am thinking of th, ov,aii effect of having great sports facilities and getting town
ownership of th—Congatulations on a great beginning!
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Gbif Course and
Mountain View Commons. W, have an opeationai contact for the Gbit Course than, effective through
December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for th, future, bath forth, Gbit Courre and Mountain Vi—
Cb— —
iewCommons. W, will add your comments tb the planning process for c-,,d,at,-. In the --h- please visit
this webpage for bth,r ways you an tay involved in the conversation. Envision Port T,.nrend Gbit Coors, and
Mountain View Commons I Qty of P-Tb.neend W aching— (,itybfptus). Thanks again for taking th, h_ to
end your,om mems.
Thank you so —h for yourinput for this,om —ty discussion abbot th, Pbrt To.ns,nd Gbit Cburse and
Mountain View Cb --W, have an op,ati I,,,ta,t for t, Gbit Cb—, than, effective through
D,,,m b,r 2023 and ., are in the midrt of pianningforthe futua, bath forth, Gbit Courre and Mountain View
Cbmmbns. W, -H add you —mems tb the pla nning process for c-,,d,at,-. In the m eantime, please visit
this w,bpa g, for bth,r ways you ca n tay involved in the conversation. Fnvisibn Pbrt T,.nrend Gbit Cburse and
Mountain View Cbmmbns I Qty of P-Tb.neend W aching— (,itybfpt. us). Thanks again for taking th, Time to
end your comments.
Thank you so much foryourinput f, th,, community discussion abbot the Portiownsend Goif Cburse and
Mountain View Cbmmbns. W, have an bpeatibnai contact for the Gbit Cburse than, effective through
December 2023 and we are in the mid. of planning for th, future, bath forth, Gbit Courre and Mountain Vi—
W, -H
iewW,.iii add your--hts tb the planning process for c-,,d,at,-. In the --h- please visit
this webpage for bth,r ways you an tay involved in th, conversation. Fnvisibn Pbrt T,.nrend Gbit Cburse and
Mountain View Cbmmbns I Qty of P-Tb.neend --g— (,itybfptus). Thanks again for taking th, t— to
send your,om mems.
Thanks for your --t, They have been added to the log.
The city continues to prejudice the community against golf course even in th,irinvittion to open
house rayl ng It_ —i -ii tV',desire to exploredifferent uses for golf nurse. That community
writhe city council after they paid $20,000 far mm eon, in Florida to assess golf course. The
rt
reposeem s to suggert we wanted P,bbi, Beach. W, the actual community do not. Golfers like
the ciubhoure and t, rocks the report sugg,rt,d removing. The high cart had aver
$50,000 fortree and rack removal and sugg,n,d replacing entire i 1ptlon system and ail
equipment No one would do that Hence the descrip0on'ridlwlouy for the r,p,,tf,, by
everyone who knows anything about the golf course. Pi—, do not be prejudiced by this report.
A new aneincoming. Also nate the golf Search 1/t3/23, 1'. 11 P M Submission bo City of Part
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Street Port Townsend WA 98368 Ph, (36D)385-30DO Home Da shboard I Sit,map I'rigout
IW,bmaii I Employee I'inking Polity Ica with good management paylforitseifand pays
o the city and through tournaments gives thousands of dollars to loai groups ---
cht.
Also the course is recovering fi-om thr,e'ovid years like everyone and everything. Also since that
report In 20191he dty and the Player's Club have done a lot of work needed. The dty does not
have t spend much if anything for the goif'ourse but th,y'ouid be spending, great deal on the
—ft and Weliness"nt,r and building other sport venues. Th,city junta,thorized$175,DOD
for, company to figure out the Health and W,lin,s. "nter building design so they an h—
so to 911,---t, on building it. Do we really think they will also build ail the things
Yaok fort The goal of the Health and W ellness center is to get people outside and exertsing.
W,should It them know there is a goif'ourse across the meet that gets people of ail ages
utsideexercising while giving thousands of dollars tb-- nity.It should be their mascot. we
already have mare health and wellness paRi —i-, per_Itthan mart places
1/13/2023 Ch --,,mg,
Thank you so much for yourinput for this'om —ty discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. W, have an opeationai contactborthI Goif Course thatis effective through
Decem bei 2023 and we are in the midrt of pianningborthe future, bath for the Goif Course and Mountain View
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l like the open space the golf courre provides, tails around the goif'ourse, the pane a rid the
Commons. W, will add your'om meats to the planning process fit, —d—t—, In the meantime, please visit
wethnds. lam however concemedaboutthe a mount of waterthe golf courseusesin todays
thiswebpage borother waysyou an rtay involved in theconversation. Envision Portiownrend Goif Courseand
envir laisothink not having, budg,tbigure in mend pnorto discussing options is
Mountain View Commonsl City of Port T-1111 Washingtn('ityotptus). Thanks again fit, -mg the rimer
ai
end your comments.
1/13/2023 Caig Chambers
Acouple of mybnendsare intererted in a n archery a age. l wonder if that might be
Thankyou so much foryourinput borthiscommunity discussion about the Portiownsend Goif Course and
ompatibi, with future pians fort he golf course.
Mountain View Commons. W, have an opeationai contactborthI Goif Course thatis effective through
Thank you.
December2O23 and we are in the midrt of pianningtorthe future, bath for the Goif Course and Mountain View
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Commons. W, will add your'o -tsto the planning process fit, —d—t—, In the meantime, please visit
this webpage for other waysyou a n-yinvolved in th„onv,rsation. Envision Port T -1-d Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons City of Portiowns,nd W ashingtn ('ityobptus). Thanks again fortkingth, fine t
end y-
1/13/2023 John C. Hail
1/13/2023
Inow live in Chimacum,and one of the few"tourist" things for me to do in Port
Thank yousomu'hbor yourinput for this'om —ty discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Townrend is to enjoy 9 holes of golf in town.
Mountain View Commons. W, have an opeationai contactborthI Goif Course thatis effective through
I have been enjoying that'hali,19,19 litti„ours, it, 11131) years, l regi—that things
Decem bei 2023 and we are in the midrt ofpp' ani f'th,future, both for the Goif Course and Mountain View
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change over time but, in ity opinion, it would be a pity to do away with the golf course.
Commons. W, will add your'om mentsto the planning process fit,—id—t—, In the meantime, please visit
this webpage for other waysyou a n-yinvolved in th„onv,rsation. Envision Port T -1-d Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons City of Portiowns,nd W ashingtn ('ityobptus). Thanks again fortkingth, lime t
end y-
1/13/2023 Alta Erickson
1/13/2023
Thank yousomuchfor yourinput for this'om —ty discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. W, have an opeationai'o —t for the Goif Course thatis effective through
rt ,a
ov,d out of PoT-1-ds,vi years ago fit, reasons.
ra number of Primarily it was the
r the both for the Goif C_ and Mountain View
Decemband we are er 2023 in the it— of planning fit, future,
uptick in f,that were..'.., sing tafil'volume, speeding, a nd'ong--, drunk and
Commons. W, will add your'om meats to the planning process fit, —d—t—, In the meantime, please visit
drugged p,opi,waiking the --,lack of parking downtown, money warted on art and
this w,bpa g, for other ways you a n-yinvolved in the conversation. Envision Port T -1-d Goif Course and
ertheticsthat suggerted more genmHcafion in the w -,Ten years before l left it was sate t--
View Commonsl City of Portiownsend Washingtn(cityotptus). Thanks again fit, -mg the fine'
walk in the uptown or near tort warden after dark, but not so by the time l left. l now live in the
send your comments.
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aunty. W hen was in town regularly frequented the Rase theater and
Fountain/Alchemy/Mezzo lona lounge during the week t support these businesses, especially
during the winter months. out no mare. PT is increasingly ,tering to tourists and not loais. The
plans for the pool and Of course should bows on locals, and the less development the better.
Keep the golf 1-1e as is. Keep the pool as is. Stop throwing money at piwin-th,sky b,htideas
improve Pi. It was, better community before thetourist-focused nitro' —g. I include the
taverty ob the Fart W olden boondoggle in this category
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Tho nk you so much for yourinput for this comm unity discussion about the Port Townsend Gbit Course and
Moudt—View Commons. W, have an op,atiodai codtact for the Gbif Cb—, than, effective through
aThank you fbr the op--ty tb --ht od pians fbr thec,tyawd,d property --flyy used December 2023 and we are id the midst bf planningfbrthe future, both fbr the Gbif Courm and Moudt—View
golf co , a gourse id Port Towd„dd. As a 45 year residPo ent bf T-11dd, l havevisited this Cbmmbns.W, will add your com meds tb the punning process f,, —d—h— In the m eantime, please visit
property, imai
hf,,gh,,tiy, My family a rid lvisit the Ka h Tai Pam,id th, spring a rid ima gin e what it this —bp—bpfbr other ways you a n -Y involved id th,c—n :ty.. En. ision P-Townmdd Gbif CbCb—,and
ave
un hlooked like centuries ago. Many thanks t, ndi
the igenous ntainers bf this P-111,ou
,, Mntain View C-1 Qty „Washin
ty bf P-Tb.ddd gton(Citybfptu,). Thank,again fortakidgth, t-, t,
and tb the Native Plant Society and Qty fbr mvidg even a small, l.4 a cr, bf native P1,1111. I—It send your com merits.
lf
the gocourm regularly tb crass country ski when it maws, which is a are occurrence. In the
par[, the Pond wasa vibant community gathering place Toric, skating, with a donated box bf
skates od the former island, m that people without skates could participate. All g...h— am,
tb play hockey, twirl and jump, be pulled od sleds, and seam m skate. This ended when the
golf worm management refused access tb the pond, and ailed the police m clear everyone off
Neediest say, community members feltextremely udw,icom,l However, dueW rising
empeatu res, rt has been yesi
ars nce skating has been pasiblse the pWhile I would like
walk od the property,itis too dangerous W db so while people od are pond. laying golf My preference
isbfbr the property we redesigned m that mare than a small number bf people who play golf
dce.
eoy the spaA plan that is mare inclusive, ecologically mond, and accessible tb all
resid,dai, desiabi,.
Thank you so much fbr yourinput fbr this community discussion abbot the Pbrt Towd„dd Gbif Cburse and
Mountain View Comm ons. In addition, I ma de a note bf your thought, od a ibcanod bf the new pool. W, have
n op,ational contact fbr the Gbif Cb—, that i, effect,,, thrbugh December 2023 and we are in the midst oT
Thank you fbr the op--ty w weigh id and fbr the Tantz,h, presentation od 1/12/23.1 think planning fbr the future, both fbr the Gbif Cb—, and Mountain View C --W, wih add your --ht,wwhat i, mart issing mfrom PT i, a goad aquatic center (re, Share Aquatic Ctr” PA as an excellent the planning process tar c-,id,at,-.In the meantime, pl—, visit this webpage tar other ways you can stay
mbdd portant full size lap swim at appropriatet,mpeatua[/8- 791, kids p -i, wellness volved id th,conv,rsznon. Envision Pbrt Towd„dd Gbif Cburse and Mountain View Cbmmbnsl Qty bf P-
p -I, etc, separate changing room, so everyone an use the pbbi comfortably). However, l wbuid Townmdd Washington (cityofptu,). Thanks again fbr taking the time W send your comments.
be loath tb give up the open space where the golf course currently i,. If there i,a way W putan
aquatic center,om,where else id town that does not eat up green space, that .-Id be my
preference.Thenative p,a and the pond are so lovely and special- it .-Id be so nice if those
w re preserved as part bf the open space landscape. While hou,idgi, critical, I believe that there
ar hIl many piac„id town that are already urbanized, where hou,idgwou11 have less of
negative imp- od the green Search 1/12/23, 6'. 20 PM Sub” fission 4198 Qty of P-Towd,edd
Washington https //cityofptus/node/21717/sub"issibn/43588 2/2250 Madison Street Part
T,—edd WA 98368 Phone (36D) 385 3D00 H., I Dashboard I Sit,map I Logout I Web"ail
Employee Linking Polity I space requirements per PROS, which mid that PT needs mare, not
less, green space. There are plenty of existing eyesores"town that wbuid not be mired if
rted W an aquatic center, picblebaiI courts and even a dog park. For the people who love
golf, maybe makidga slallery --but also opening up that space tar others W enjoy safely...
_'d be great The ane time I stepped foot od the golf course I was yelled at. And itsreally
stupid that the tail that runs by coh—ood just stop, at F --- At the very least, that space
needs tb be opened up for use tb mare people. Thank y -H
Thank you so much fbr yourinput fbr this community discussion abbot the Pbrt Townsend Gbif Cburse and
Mountain View Cod,—, We have an opeatiodai contact fbr the Goif Cburse than, effective thrbugh
If hbusingis the partial fate of the golf course it should not be single family dwellings. It shbuid be Decem be, 2023 and we are in the mid. of pianningforthe future, bath fbr the Gbif Course and Mountain View
a large main nary apartment building which is much more economiaitb build and less Co—ns. We will add your commentstb the planning process fbr consideation. In the meantime, please visit
riaily wa rt,fui.Iti, the best wayW provide affordable hou,idga,i,proved id mart of the this webpage fbr other ways you an tay involved id theconv,rratiod. Envision Pbrt To—edd Goif Cburse and
dnrt
of the world.Ha-a para: with lots oT sunlight torcdhH residents oT the apt bldg. Keep the Mountain View Cbmmbns l Qty of Pol Towd,edd Washington(cityofptus).Thanksagainfbrtakingthenmem
vingangeand mme putnnggreens Torpacnce. Nb Dog Parl.Wiffie Teddi,i,afadandwhed send yburcomments.
the boomers are gone it will only be a memory. Nb public art. Nb movie screens ortburirt duff.
Thanks fbr yourinput iota the golf and Mountain View conversation. Quite frankly, we are not tryingW gaslight
Why the reluctance m say how few rounds of golf are really played and how —d any of this conversation, the numbers we have from the golf course are maccuate. We are trying tb make reuse of
lathe dq/7VdI have the numbers and to avoid the face during the meetlngls them. l have put them on thew,.... under"Curren to pea eons".Takeo Look, I t is there, weareJustworkln goo
ga,lighting in my opinion. The sa me thing happened with the P ROS Pian. The M oudtam View more diger,Ne To—at fbr everyone. Thanks Torattendingthe a ped house. Weappreciateyburi t.
pbbi cbuid be
filled
m and the space umd to, a fa—,, —bet (with large bam doors all aroudd
for good weather..). Th at space cbuid aisb became Key Qty Theater which badly n„d,a new
,pac,.Thank, Tbr your efforts I am a devoted swimmer.
1/13/2023 Marl: Finco
Thanks boryour --t, about the golf,our... the numbers that you reference mme from the Ki.—, club
r,,,ntiyattend,d th, open house at Ft Warden Commons. During th, presentation It was
and we are d,ivinglntb Mem m verity. Thanke bb, your artuten,se In the process and bb, asking the quertions.Ib
n„d that the golf course opeations resulted In aver $700,D00 of ch-ttu, giving over the
thy are confi—d we will put them on aur website tar review. shanks m much, and bor yourinter,rt In th,
part l0 years. It reemed liM other epontneousannounc_ t, and l a m Interested In It,
discussion.
achy. Can this figure bebacked up by ,—N,accounflng? If so, could you port It on the
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website. It Is a hard thingto Imagine given haw little the golf course x used. One of the things
"aeric co nth: county to do le be an Independent arblterob what le factual. There le a lot ob
energy r,gardingthe golf course and people will be Inclined to ,xaggeate, If not make up, "facts"
o support their position(s). Please be sure you do not repeat things that mn not be backed up,
regardless ob where they came from. Thank you bortking on whorls an undo --biy difficult
task.
1/13/2023 Irene Ru bin
Thank you so —h bb, yourinput bb, this,o —ty discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
hrough
Mountain View Commons. W, havean opeationai contact for the Golf Course thm,effective through—
D11—bor 2023 and we are In the mldn ob pi 'th
D11future, bath bb, the Golf Course and Mountain View
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Commons. W, .,Ii add your com menteto the pianning process for,—d—t— In the m eantime, plea-
-th" webpage bb, oth,rwaysyou m n nay Involved In the conversation. Envision Port Town..nd Golf Courseand
After hearinga ht-teborarid against imvingth, golf courseas It le, l— convinced that
Mountain View Commons)Gty ob PortT-11nd Waehingtnj,ityobptue). Thanke again fortkingth, Imes
l--ga ae It Is, Is the bort forth, clry.
send your comments.
1/13/2023 JJ Johmm�&Mary Beth Haralovi,h
Thanke for your comm em, about the golf,our.., M ountin View a rid th, pool. W, appreciate you sending your
Retain golf course asa green space; Mountain View- create a new modem aquas, health center
thoughts. Weare In the middle ob pianning for bath of these asrete. Your comm em, wlii be added to th,
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with Indoor courts bor bail gam ee jwhether pickle or other); at th, land inmr Manrem, dedimted
comment log and made avallabiemthe planners and the Gty Council for consideation. Thanks again.
Sento r Center pool/fitness centerboI, rehab and seniors
1/14/2023 Pamela erowning
Thank you so much for your input for this, --ty discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
hrough
Mountain View Com mons. W, have an opeationai contact for the Golf Course thm,effective through—
D11—bor 2023 and we are In the mldn ob pianningto'th e future, bath for the Golf Course and Mountain View
D11
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Commons. W, .,Ii add your,ommenteto the pianning process for o—d—t—, In the m eantime, plea-
-th" webpage for other waysyou m n nay Involved In the conversation. Envision Port T-1111d Golf Course and
My first priority for this comm unrcy asretl, affordable housing and horn else support, hand I
M oarium View Commons l CIty ob Port T—Vend Waehingtn(,ityobptue). Tha nkeagaln for taking the cm em
like to see the Camas Pain, meed)
send your comments.
1/14/2023 Nancy Erreca
Thanke for your comments. They have been added to the log.
Money Raised at Port T—Vend Golf Course tar kids and chances over th, last 20 years le aver
$700,D00. Do you want to be r,eponsvbi, for this comings an end??? Peopie need to know this.
Weae rervl„clubs rely on the golf course tar same of aur brgge. fhhd —,—H Rick Gare,
Kiwanls —b,, Ther, are other tournaments not lined that have had fund--, at PTGC. This
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Ilst was put together by a member of the golf Cour.. Men's dub two years ago. Gabriel Tonan
donateeth, use of th, goif,our.. to the Port Townsend High S,hooi goltte— to, their mason.
He also donates the u.. of the ,our.. twice a year to the High Schaal Crass Gauntry team. One of
the events h
hoe been the league Tournament. He aim gives about 12 donation certffl-esa
out
ymrto local chanties tar silent 'o—ecmee clubs a rid clothes that—e out ob his awn
packet
1/15/2023 Kry-h
whenl first moved s Port Town send l was very1r1111d at how many g.ff courses we
Thankyou so much for yourinput for this,--ty discussion about the Port Town send Golf Courseand
had In town.Especially,onsvd,nng how alny and windy It is mart of the y,arand
Mountain View Commons. W, have an op,ationai,onta,t for the Golf Course thm,effective through
nsid,nnga majority ob oureid—(that use the golf c--)are mow birds. Aewe
December 2023 and we are In the—. ob pianningtor thefutur,, both for the Golf Cour.. and Mountain View
already know we have an overflow of eiders com pared it the young capable wori:ing
Commons. W, will add your comments to the pianning process for o—d—t—, In the m eantime, please visit
people. Ae this eider population a gee, my concern is that there won't be enough young
thiew,bpa ge for other ways you mn nay Involved In the conversation. Envision Port Town..nd Golf Course and
working people to m pport this eider community as they pass on. Port Townsend golf
Mountain View Commons l CIty ob Polt Tb— .,ndW-mg—(,ityobptue). Tha nke again for taking the— es
ouid be a wonderful opportunity s create low Income/affordable housing for
send your comments.
thorn who are service facing In this town. I think the golf,our , Ie bIg enough to create
housingon ane half of the lot, and the other halt, a pari: similarit that ob wnght pari: In
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Tacoma. Port Town..nd has only a handful ob goad parksto hang out In and the golf
rs ouid boa great place for lodes play, people it walk, would be a nice place s
hangout, a rid a n opportunity to rapport those service facing wo-11 who In tum
support aur elder community.
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v, been tracking the planning process for the golf ..urre property, and attended the open
house last week. Wow, what a turn-utl I Mink it speaks highly of "thy"
efforts to engage
the community, and haw important the future -f this property i, to , many people` town.
Some thought, agardl the open house, and the process I, g,,,al, that I'd Ilk, to pass -to
you. And if you coin d share wl th the landscape a,,hlt,t that'd be great 1. Some fundamental
background informa _ was not provided at the open house. Specifically, how did the property
co to be owned by the City What eactiy a re the deed—, --„-the parcelsin Thanks for your email and thoughts. I will try to address Ml of y-urquertions. 1. We are trying to sort out the
q...b-?(The Otle report -the 1—,Yn... webpage 1, dauntlngand nearly lm p—bl, fora deedsandsh-yid haveth-se re adymanswerydurHrstquerti-n by the --rid open h -u1. Thereat', different
layperson to re ad) How much use doesthe golf course get now? (The answer to Mat quern -,l re n on different parcels. Some parcels were donated, some purchased. There a re 10 ttai parcels. The
onlY learned thanks to the let -,the Lader horn Gabe -n the rtakehoider c-mmitteel)2.Th, „qu,s0 on—bea,,vend by the d--t,-thew,bslt, ihatr,y, "revenues -d rounds” It —fly
panels displaying —th, history-lthe property/area were very interernng. Can digital what we get from the current -peaty. Weare w -slang ono m ore digestible format The presentations including
ver ns be linked on the El—Y, -b-03 At the open ho..,,veryo,,w ho spoke digital images-lthe boards, including history i,linked. the website under the actual open house meeting.The
1 to be bending over back—yds to say that- decision has been made yet regarding the naso many of us stated that -decision has been made is beaus, Mere has been misinformation m the
future -f the golf c -arse. It was repeated m irequenHy that it rounded awkward. G-1the p—,-d......I media thatched ty has already made a d -„,and we don't want anybody to be dI--g,d
mely limited use the course gets,the$$requiredt bring the facility up t. basic standards, t --pito If they thmka decisi-, has already been made. The real -n we corn aced the G.if Curse with
-d the mmmunlry's dear desire f.r,.m,chl better., the property, can we Just acknowledge M-untainview is because we saw s -me c-mpieme—, along with c -,riga -us ores We M-ughtthesetw-
that checourse's daycare numbered,and m11111t.planningf.r the futur,74. I-deo—d th, p,-pert,,,c-aid c-mpiement each-ther.l have added your tarn ,ttst our log— will pass them along td th,
desiretiink the pi a , g -f the golf c-urre property with the futon-fMd-t—View since team and City C -until for review and —Th -k, -m again t -,your c-mments.
ch,;',, b gu.u, and publldy--d. Rut t. my ml rid those 2 areas are VERY dlfferentsl t,,,
with VERY different uses. Yes, there will be ge-graphic c-nnectivity, but their uses —Id n-t
-veriap much If at ail. The tacus-f th,,s,,fi—t planning process sh-uid be -n the golf course
property only. I t,su,h a are opp,,tu,,ty t,
d,trml” the long-trm future of a big Chunk of
land right m the middle -f town; it needs aur -Il, f-cusl Thanks for your efforts with this
"notal venture.
1/17/2023 Kelsey Caudebec Thank y -us - much t -, your input for this c-mmunity discussi-nab-ut the Port Town send Gbit Course and
—d for the rcruc[ur, cianty-f process, and inteac[ive port,., -f the Gbit C-urre/MVC Md --View C --We have an -peatianal —1 -for the Gbit Cd—,Matic effective through
-pen hd—lastweek. A, I menti -tied in my public c-mment-n1/1,l urge bur c-mmunity December 2023 and we are in the mid. -f planning for the future, both for the Gbit C-urre and Md --View
em bet's t keep Meir minds -pent -Mer p-ssibihties than the __qu-.laim _=g, Cd—ll, We will add your corn --d the planning process for c -,side --n. In the meantime, please visit
talks t express their-p,i-n, a rid not feel intimidated by the -Mery-ices. Thbse whb want the this webpage for bther ways you a n -yi-dl—in the c -n —ti -n. Envision Port Td --d Gbit Course and
golfc--e t stay have been veryvdaland are jundemandabiy)w-sling hard t retain it, for Mountain View C-mm-n,l CIty-fP-rti-wnsend Washingtn(city-fptus). Thanks again for taking the timet
--Ie, at the -pen house therewere arils being handed but with into -nh-wt submit send your corn mems.
P.M, comments in favor -f the golf course. Which i, fine that, their right. I just hope that
others who aren't in favor -f keeping the golf course as i,, feel that they an speak up tab. Lts
open bur minds tail -pti-,sand db the wb,b t undemand th-re-pti-n,. It after weighingaii
p-ssibtitties, an mbbrmed majority thinks the golf course sh- Id stay, s- be it. eat lets be sure
everyone feels c-mf-rtabie and empowered t speak up, whatever their-p,i-n, as this will h—
a l -mg impact -n bur whale community.
1/17/2023 Julie Jaman The people of Port Townsend and those who pay taxes to various taxing districts Thankyw m much foryourinput forthre co —ty discussion about the Po Townsend Goff course and
re being offered plans for new and improved municipal facilities, possibly
Mountain View commons.we havean opeat.onai contactforthe Goif Coursethati,effectivethrough
sing the public golf course land and Mt View land for a Wellness Center.This
D... tb,,2023a.d.,_,nthemd. of piiamm�gtortherutua, both for the Goff Courm and Mountainview
planning is a revival of the Su per Y idea of a few years ago with spa-like
commons, wewiiladdyourcommentsmthepiamm�`process forcon,.deat.on. Inthemeantime, please visit
amenities and a natatorium with multiple pools. No price has been suggested yet,
this webpage tar other waysyou an nay involved in the converrat.on. Envision PorcTownrend Gaff course and
butthelasttime natatorium
in the neighborhood of $20M', given current inflation
Mountain View Commons l cry of Portrow.,endWa,hingmn(ntyofptu,). Thanks again f—knI.gthe t-, t,
figures this wellness plan could be more than double that price. Before this
send your comments.
process proceeds at the incredible speed the team is proposing we need a better
grasp of what could be coming our way. expenses for subcontracted specialists
(remember the idea for a new library? $750,000 just in architectural planning), the
real estate footprint required for such a complex'. land, building, parking, the CO2
footprint including new concrete,the impervious surfaces for cars and sidewalks
The increased use of electricity and propane (what are the current monthly bills?)
The impact to several private businesses and employees that offer - gyms with
se programs, courts and weight rooms- saunas, Jacuzzi and soaking tubs-
sage, yoga, and spa treatments To say nothing of the underused and under
aintained facilities throughout this town City. 184 acres not including 58 acres
golf course and the Mt. View Complex with pool School district'. three schools
with facilities and fields and Mt View land County. the community center gym and
ourthousa park with courts and the fairgrounds with multiple underused
buildings and grounds State'. Fort Worden with fieldscourtsand indoor facilities
I suggest this is where collaboration is needed - how to make good use of what
we have already paid formuch that we own outright - our heritage. Under 2019
Strategic Planning "Strategy 4: Consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and
functional plans, establish long-term planning, prioritization, and
investment strategies for future infrastructure projects that are sensitive to
the community needs and values, are sustainable, and ensure consistent
1/16/2023 Mary J—H Metzger
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goff Course and
ongly,upport the revi,ioningprocess forboth Mountain View property and the Goff Courm
Mountain View Commons. We havean opeationai contactforthe Goif Course thatis effective through
to better serve Portiow.,end and JeffersonCountye present and future residents. Mon
December 2023 and we are in the midst of planning for the future, both for the Goff Courm and Mountain View
impa.fui,in my family's vie., would be th.... ru..on ata H eaith and Wellness Center and
Commons. We will add yourcommentsto the planningproce,sforconsideation. In the mealy, piea,ev
the revision..` of the Goif course for better pubilc use as a green space with taii,a.d pub Gc
this webpage for other waysyou an nay involved in the conversation. Envision Po T,o mnd Goif Coursea.d
gathenngaccess.. The con of maintain..`the golf course-especially concemingthe ecologiai
Mountain View Commonsl Gty of Portiownsend Washington(cityofP-1), Thanks again f—knI.gthe flmem
cos, of water a id given the numbersof people who use it given otherlocal aiter.atI111
send your comments.
argues agk-t a, continuance. PT i, growing, will continue m do so, and we need to find ways of
supporting a, population's needs ecofog.aily.
1/17/2023 Erik Kingfisher Hi there-th.,i, an exciting time for there special properties, and l' m hopeful that the
out sof this process will result in some du able "i'benefits forgeneationsto
cam . I also want to make sure it'sd—thatfor at lean the pan 5,000 years or so, the golf
se land was part ata van native porn,, managed by the people here. I believe that
the potential w return much of that property to Paine is passible, and that rt would
benefit currentand future geneationsimmensely. Native pame,are exceedingly are
Thankyou so much foryourinput forthiscommunity discussion about the Portiownsend Goif Course and
a.ymore,a.dthebiodiversity and resilient conditions they have provide immenre pubilc
Mountain View Commons. Wehavea.opeat.onaicontactforthe Goif Coursethati,effectivethrough
benefit.
Decem bei 2023 and we are in the mid. of pianningforthe future, bath for the Gaff Courm and Mountain View
magi., the golf course property of the future m be a kind of Cental Part: for Port
Commons. We will add yourcommentsto the pianningprocess tenonsIdeation. I.themeahhi plea, n
Taw.mnd, mana`edaspame(l.ke certain parks in Victoria B.CJ a.diht,,,persed with
th.,w,bpage forother waysyou an.ay involved in theconverration. ,,.
PT,mnd Goif Coursea.d
waik..`taii,, benches, etc.
Mountain View Commons I Oty of Portiow....d Washington (c.tyofptu,). W, are currently war mgon
dec.phenng ail the deeds and t and should have the ready man. Thanks again forteking the t-, m
send your cam mems.
1/17/2023 Sura. Skidmore Thank you so much foryourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Gaff Course and
M--
ountain View Commons. Wehavea.opeat.onaicontactforthe Goif Coursethati,effectivethrough
Our family values the golf course as Itis....a beautiful golf cou O. any given day, we me ma ny December 2023 and we are in the mid. of pianningforthefuture, both for the Goff Course and Mountain View
golfers --t. It horn the high school golf team a, well a, the occasional cross country running Commons. We will add your tom ment,to the planningprocess forc,n de,ki .Inth—anh—,piea,e—n
et Whenrtsnows, many locai,takeadantageofthe open,paceto cro„country k, and thiswebpage forother waysyou an.ay involved in theconverration. Envision P-T—m—d Goif Course and
walk and,led.l support maintain..gtt as a golf course and many adding mm e other recreational Mountain View Commonsl Oty of Portiow.,end Wa,hingt.n(c.tyofptu,). Thank, again fortak..`the flmem
uses to the space. I don't rapport building any housing on it. send your comment,.
1/17/2023 Kelsey Ca -debet
Hi there. Thanks for your email. Th, —y to -ab the course .-Id likely need w — from th, city. If the
I -d—t-d that one -—,t f,, b,,p,hg the g.ff courre as is, is thm they have --
pff club were liable tot the mpitai -,hdab— th- y,,, It .-Id I,k,Iy - I,- their a bil,ty W donate W so —y
m-inpieactivities that -- a lot of m .,y fo, —i no bfft, My qh,,t,. , If th, pff
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tours stayed,—part pof the d� b, they have w --their own — t, thy fix it hp? My
" that the -—,t ab— h-tabl, db,,t,-, .-Id t— — w have been a —
-ht , If they would h— w -p db—mg o —h , b,d,, w b, —.— viable bl, gh w
'-h - �sob-sin—,G1,, .-Id Mat —y come fi-om 1,,? Thank y- f,,
P_ d,hg this opportunity fa,
1/18/2023 Cbnchat V Juha
Thank you so —h f,, y— -t f,, thh, —unity d--- ab— the P- Tb -111d Gbit C-11 and
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1/18/2023 Kim M.
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V -ht— vic—', We have 11 1p11ft11t1'1for I Gbit Cb—,Matic , ff,,t,, through
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, of the .11diffe. It 11 passible tar -s to change that.inti— Me. we , p-- . fa, MOST
of the p-pl e and .11diffe. We —ld enhance -11timg wefa ads a hd f --d spaces f,, .,Id
mals and birds, and repurpose 0 o, p- of th, pff course t, f—k— —a—M recreational
t":k around th, pe—,- — possibly
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—ht,y t— competitions amphitheatre and -91 f,1 musimi and other
pe,fi,--, d- pff course, playground,11IIeyb11II,11111 It, P11YIng flel11 for
s and other sports. We_OdP'affordablee b—,hg in Mere t— --ld also
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b, to t from the and t, city ethe pubh, Th,, -- jobsb"ng'
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many activities e— In a space that the ---1 goiter -res We —ld
offer' space that .-Id be -fit —I, —e of the comm -pity, stili g— the g.1I a space to
play and Ifthey -ed a UH course, th— is — fi- -de, but of to— I —I, at the high school
and th,of this to— -ed mare t, do. Younger children are In the mine boatThey Ave
In a town with a large --d population, but the —ghly 1500 children of PT deserve —e.
1/18/2023 Mari: Pope
Thank you so much toryourinput fo,thi, community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Acco,dingto the US Forest Service. Each day, an ernmated 6,OD0 acres of open spaceare
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, wiiishare Memwith Me C ty Council and planning
rtedto other,—The goifcourseand Mt. View Commons mus[ remain openand
t eamtortheir consideation.Thankyoummuch torts kingtherime t, send yourthought..
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oailabie w the people. Thisarea mus[ be protected from com merta l interest from the onset of
land use planning. Moving forward from there, we should consider pubilc input for community
e of the property. Perhaps scheduled use could be part of the plan. Far example; golf on mme
days and frisbie golf etc. on others.
1/18/2023 DahrJamaiiThank
you so much toryourinput fo,thi. community discussion about the Portiown... d Goff Course and
Given the hou.ingcresis that has been impacting PF for years, and has worsened,, rid appears to
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, will share Mem with the City Council and planning
only continuew Worsen, coupled with the fact that eventuailya h of downtown will have w be
team for theirs—d—t—Thankyou.m —h for taking the t— m send your thoughts.
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moved w higher ground due w sea—pre from the climate crisis, rt only makes sense m
--- the golf courre waddress these issues. Using same of it w become space for a esthetic
and affordable housing, alongside,Bloating businesses from downtown w higher ground i.
ethical, moat, sensible, and economic. Additionally, there i. already the Discovery say Gait
Course, m goiters have a conveniently looted place w play at the same time.
1/18/2023 Tony Goldenberg
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
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NO Moa T—,, No more Cherry St. Housing Debacles.Wiffie Tennis i. a fad, the Boomers' Hacky
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your com mentsand will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
Sack,d- upend m oney on it.Jurt leave the golf course a lone. C-111-t,on finding a place W
team for their consideation. Thank yoummuch torts king the rime m send you,thought..
build a 4 story apartment bldg. Do not bid SF Dwellings.
1/18/2023 Margaret D. M,Gee
Iw_'d like m..the golf course become an open space Mat s used m ore broadly, by
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion a bout the Port Town send Goif Course and
the community than it i.today. Fine with m e if golf i. included in Mat je.g.,paRice
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, will share Memwith Me City Council and planning
hales, d -golf, miniature golf) "`hg itother features that would be inviting to
team for theirs—d—tion. Thank youmm uch for to king the rime m send yourthought..
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families or individuals m the open space. That would be a wonderful amenity for the
fixed— housing that I hope will _ day be bated across San Juan Ave. at the
former Nomua property.
1/18/2023 Tom Engel
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share them with Me C ty Council and planning
team tortheir c—deat—Thank you m much for taking the t— m send yourthought,
oolittleused to justify Its existence
The golf course is to'"""e'
1/18/2023 taupe Riley
Thankyou so much toryourinput fo,thi, community discussion aboutthe Port Townsend Goif Course and
There must bea way to buiidttyly affordabiehou.,n,eg, t.jnot just m ed—iange units) at the
Mountain View Commons. I have logged yourcommentsand wiiishare Memwith Me Cty Council and planning
golf courre,andstiii keep plenty of open space forrecreanon. Surely thisi. not that big a
team for theirs—deation. Thank youmm uch for to kingthe rime m send you,thoughts.
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problem' Median -,rigs hou.ingvalue figures are skewed, thyMwho an
afford hou.ingthataiready exists, and th—foa they ig—e themajority of people -those who
otafford ext h ghou.ingat ail. Thereto,, pro-mgmedia, iarigs housing would help
no e who needs it. We need AFFORDABLE housing. Do the math. if YOU lived on
alt an
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minimum wage, haw much could you afford?
Thankyou so much to, yourinput to, this community discussion aboutthe Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share themwith Me C ty Council and planning
team to, theirson-at—Thank you m much to, taking the t— m send yourthought,
1,U— —I ... 1,a Disc Gait courreI This —11 1, achieved at relatively low cart, and
plugged into the existing ball golf courre with minimal impact. Disc golf fairways are shorter, and
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would prefer the wooded and obstacle laden rections between taditionai golf
fairways. Disc golf i. super popular fight naw, with packed courses nation a
wide nd youtube
videos of professional ---t, gamering millions of views a piece. Disc golf i.aim vastly
essibie than ball golf due to the high cart of clubs, balls, and tee times (discs are $10-20
apiececwherea, clubs are hundreds of dollars per ret). The I,,, hopcould expand its
meahandire to include disc golf discs and paaphemalia, and tee times could be sold at a
—W, price. I think this would be of great bene Ht to PF residents looking to, moa fun
options to, outdoor exerts., as well as disc golf— t, who tavei all over to, greats --.It
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Linking Polity I was designed well enough, tournament, could aim boost the economic value of
the site during certain time, of the year. PF residents don't wantW dme W Chimacum to play
the nnky dink 9 hale course at HJ Carrot park. The ben 18 hale course nearby, i. in elyn, but that.
almost an hour. dme away. The PF golf course i. definitely big enough w have an 18 hale disc
golf courre and continue offering bail golf eigvision would be tar disc golf and ball golf w exirt
within a mixed — outdoor Htnes. -I- that could include playground, exert.. pari:,
climbing wail, mini golf and pool far the benefit of pubilc health m PTI
1/18/2023 Pamela Hail
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Mem with the City Council and planning
support leaving the golf course as itis. Good exeaire for those who can't hike easily, open space team for their consideation. Thank you i, much for to king the rime m send your thoughts,
s a great way fora town to breathe and is a comersmne of PT. Somethings can't be improved on
1/18/20230sha
Asa Port Tow .... d.att- a 20 something who's a Concerned in habitant on this I—t;l think Thankyou so much foryourinput forthis community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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change is necessary and good. Goif coursesarean environmental blight! l would love ti, ree it Mountain View Commons. I have logged your commentsand will share Memwith Me Cty Council and planning
sepia ped withsom ething that brings many demogaphics together other than -- t, one team for their consideation. Thank you, m uch for taking the rime t, send you,thought,
group of people (golfers)
1/18/2023 Taylor W ebrte,
Thank you so much foryourinput forthis community discussion about the P- T—IR...d Goif Course and
believe the space should be left a green space,undeveloped, but it should be a pari: fit, the M ountain View Comm ons. I have logged you,comments and will share Memwith Me Cty Council and planning
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unity to to pi mi T wal k and for the chi Idren to Play. Many other dN', have big team fo,their consideation.Thankyou, much fo,takingthe flme m send yourthoughts.
beautiful parksin the middle and every flme I dme o, walk part the golf course, I wish I could
enjoy the space instead of only the select pasha. of the community who play goi
1/18/2023 Janine Kirby
Thank you so much fit, you,input fit, this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Please follow the not sovomi orioud majomy.l haven't been here longenough to f—an Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged you, --t, and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
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opinion but l know how sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the mart attention pay attention to team fit, their consideation.Thankyou, much for taking the rime t, send yourthoughts.
the numbers of comments not the loudness at the others.
1/18/2023 A.R. Neihaus
Thank you so much fit, you,input fit, this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
have a place a few blocks north of the golf tour, so l dme by it often but,Idom ree anyone Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged you, comments and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
playing golf hove the green space and the openness. l would kko love that we could have more team to, their consideation.Thankyou, much to, taking the flme m send you,thougIN,
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affordable housing so that we don't tum into an Aspen, where only the nth mn afford to live in
wn. Same have to drive over 50 miles each way. We despeately need mare medical people but
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told they can't find housing. It im't Jun low paid work— Can't we have affordable housing
AND recreational activRies� Haw many goifersare there anyway. Not many on the tour,.
1/18/2023 Adrianne Harun
Thank you so much to, you,input to, this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
wnting in support of keeping the golf course in place, funding and supporting it fully and Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged you, comments and will share Mem with the City Council and planning
coherently. like many, am am well aware Mat if th open space is usurped, reshaped wit many team to, their consideation.Thankyou, much to, taking the flme m send you, thoughts.
divergent inter..[, in mind, it will not be ,stained as the unique open space it it.isand will
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likely begaduaily eroded, chapped up t, musty every new residents idea of right use. As a long-
esident—and not a golfer myself— I've ,en the course used by many different types of
golfers over the years. Retirees, yes, but also families and high school teams and fund--, as
.Ni. Plea, keep the course and take mre of it. If s a gift.
1/18/2023 Kailey Crook
Thank you so much to, you,input to, this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
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As a youngfamily and resident of uptown, we rtrongiy feel that a new pool and wellness centesis Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged your comments and will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
a better Ht to, the land. Youth and families are underserved in Pi and a golf course is an team to, their consideation.Thankyou, much to, taking the flme m send yourthougIN,
ineq—U, and environmentally un,und option!
1/18/2023 Melism Patrick
Thank you so much to, you,input to, this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share themwith Me Cty Council and planning
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Keep the golf courre as is. We need m protect this green space and provide as many sports team to, their consideation.Thankyou, much to, taking the flme m send yourthougIN,
_11, as possible to, the citizens. Thank you.
1/18/2023 Stephanie MorrellThank
you so much foryourinput forthis community discussion about the Port Townsend Goff Course and
Please keep the golf course as is. l am not a golfer so this opinion is not due ti, reit inteast.W, M ountain View Comm ons. I have logged you,comments and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
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have a unique & hirinnc entity that benefits so many in this community. Residential development team to, their consideation. Thank you i, much to, taking the flme m send you,thougIN,
,an be elsewhere.
1/18/2023 Skip
Thank you so much foryourinput forthis community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
would like m express my wishes to keep both the golf course together with driving ange and Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged you, comments and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
re t s the only one we have. Regarding the Mountain View pool, it is an absolute eam to, their consideation.Thankyou, much to, taking the flme m send yourthougIN,
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essiry herein PT and keepingrt orimprovingR would be greatly appreciated and beneficial to
the entire community. I'm well aware there are plenty of hikingtrail, in PT ai,mdy. There are
eras excellent playgrounds scattered throughout the City. Have noticed haw bath basketball
and tennis areas have to—Monad ti, picki,bah courts without any public input.
1/18/2023 Lim F.
Thank you so much to, you,input to, this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
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would liken see the golf course remain a golf course. if s an open and green area,, being u,d Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged you, comments and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
as habitat by lomi wildlife, and provides much needed outdoor recreation to, our senior team to, their Thank- i, much to, taking the flme m send you,thougIN,
tty.
1/18/2023 LindaThank
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you so much foryourinput forth,, community discussion about the Port Townsend Goff Course and
I think the golf course should remain, with upgades m make it moa appealing m visitors,!arms, Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged you, comments and will share Memwith Me Cty Council and planning
pombly inciudtngrthd,,t, with classes at schools to... age the young people to use of the am to, their Thank- i, much to, taking the flme m send yourthougIN,
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golf"0"" and maybe get families inte—ed. Walking tails rf theyare afe from getting banked
by a golf ball. Nat „e haw the MVC would be incorpoated since rt is across Me .seat with no
direct a¢esy but maybe that's bee. Considered. Good luck to all who make the final dedsio..
1/18/2023 Richard Boyd Thank you so much toryourinput forth,, community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
hh:eve the Oryshould make the upg d,', needed at the golf nurse and havea management M ountain View Commons. I have logged your con mems and will share Mem with the City Counni and planning
handle the op—t— Having that open space as a golf course should be aIewei for the city team tortheirc—d—t— Thank you m much forty k,ngthe t-, m send yourthought,.
SK1 and promoted by the dry —t does downtown and Fort W orden. once It's gone .twin never be
again,. look at Pouisbo, the small strep mall acrossfrom Cental Mari:et used to be their golf
cou se (paved paadire to put up a parking lot). Ito new swimming pool is needed build a new
he Fairgrounds North Beach ara,the c,ty owns a LOT of property Wert of the
Favu rt ground, and there area lot otie"
dents i, that area.
1/18/2023 And, O"Cana,
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kee ff courseasis. Greato
p he t go pen space, le ate, peaceful and a great
addition to aur town. Tha nk,l
292 1/18/2023 Philippa Lance Please an l have a copy of this toren and/or the website to cannel to the toren that does not
requrze a qr code. I appreciate yourasnrtance. Philippa
1/18/2023 Lynn
My first canteen / desire for the golf courm property i, for it to continue to be an open space in
the middle at town. It we build up everywhere, we'll Jun become'Anytown, USA', which this
awn has been able m tight off successfully for years. Once we ,tart chipping a way at it, there's
no going back. My second concern i, that it iso lovely open space i, town, but lien rted only to
293 goiters. They are not tiled as a waik,ng tail on the PF tail map, so if they would share their
space and allow walkers (no bikes, please) m use the space also, it would be mare ata
unity space, with the City offering to do same maintenance to delay the cal m them
(though that would be minimal, as walkers don't usually cure much damage). realize this would
be a afety issue, so maybe pick a few regular 1/2 days when goiHng i, slow, and open it up to
walkers -d joggers. Thank you.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Mem with Me C ty Counni and planning
team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for taking the rime m send yourthought,.
Will da.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Mem with the City Counni and planning
team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the t-, m send your thoughts.
1/18/2023 ea,baa
Thank you so much toryourinput forth,, community discussion about the Portiown,e.d Goif Course and
a infavor of keepingthe go it course pro shop, and rertauant osis. It i,awondertui
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Memw,th Me City Council and planning
nalara for residents of adages, and is available to ail who wish to team and play golf
team tortheir consideation.thank yoummuch forty k,ngthe nmem send yourthoughts.
have heard the argument that this space i, only tar goiters. Well, yes, jut as the pickiebaii courts
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re for than who play pickiebaii, and hiking tails are tar hikers (not momayciuts), dog pari, tar
dogs and their owners, etc. Please keep aur golf course for those of us who enjoy having family
— playing this wonderful sport. aim would love to improve aur pool beaure it i, abmiutely
needed i, this city. Thank you.
1/18/2023 Kit Malone
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Please ignore a 11 arguments to the contary-and go ahead and create wori:foae affordable
Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged yourcommentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
hod„ng park, and pal—lady a huge Aquatics faniity. We need ail of Mose things. We DO NOT
team tortheirco—deat,— Thank you m much for taking the flme m send yourthought,.
NEED A GOLF COURSE. I spent many years supporting and encouag,ng my two tep,on, through
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assay golf during high school. We all loved the game, and I myself played daily at times. IT IS
TOTALLY UNIM PORTANT COM PARD D TO W ORKFORCD HOUSING AND AN AQUATICS CENTER.
That what we really need. I pal—lady — ibt,,et,d i, Splex wo,bfo,,e housing that,, based
on a land true m that the houses remain affordable. Thank you,
1/18/2023 Debi Munro
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Mem with Me C ty Counni and planning
would lovem seethe golf course used for affordable housing, community gardens and open
team for theirco—deat,— Thank you m much for taking the flme m send yourthought,.
green spaces/pari: with tails
1/18/2023 Elizabeth Berman
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
ntthegoifcourse property to be umd for iecrat— by us citizens. There are many
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Memw,th Me C ty Counni and planning
posnbAit,es, including disc goif,goif, par course,pickiebaii, andthere aremanyway,to wise
ta�forthe,rcons,deat,on.Thankyou m muchfortaimgth,t—td sehdyourthought,.
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oney and utilize volunteers. It mut remain open space -once gone, gone forever, and this
tai loation needs to be open, not housing. There was no quetion on the survey that gave a
choice of golf course plus other recreational uses. No pool there. It we need anew pool, let it be
where itis right naw. Support Preservation Alliance across the meet, which will provide lots of
housing.
1/18/2023 Wendy Davis
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
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would like ee the golf course made into walking trails with picnic areas and maybe a
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share them with Me C ty Counni and planning
piayground.l would like to ee it used by more nt2ens.Iti, a beautiful green space in ourtown.
team for theircd—deat—. Thank you m much for taking the flme m send yourthought,.
Perhap,a small selion could be —ed tar golf?
1/18/2023 MJ Peck
If a ii of you are so concerned about open spares, stop ietflng real —,developers
Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
ciearcut land. Also, my kids wort: at h.,e Seattle, but they take Meir daughter for
M. amain View Commons. I have logged your commentsand will share Mem with the Qty Council and planning
s m iessonsand ge... iI—hg at beautiful pubilc pools. They take herto
team fort heir consideation. Thank y- much dorta k,ngthe time m send yourthought,.
mating playgrounds thata"wally challenge ail ages. They like to enjoy recreation with
their friends. There is no place here where they could do that. If people who wort: at
home never leave their house, would bewowed If I were you.
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So, are Chetzemoka, Memorial Field, all the try. is (I. ke Cappy's) throughout PT, Fort
Flagg,. and Fort W..den pl.sall our beaches not enough open sp-0I Justdon't
understand by looking at a huge splotch of I,—,is mare satisfying and useful Man
what have proposed,
n addition, to ail those getting ail itchy about preserving hirmrfc land. That was the
part. This is naw and we need to think of future geneah—. The part i, —Ilam.
1/18/2023 Dave Holland
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The golf course should be converted m a Cental Pari: that everyone an ure. Goif i, not a
team for their con,,d,at,-. Thank y -much forty king the time m send yourthought,.
unit'- 'de use of a beautiful I,- I,ke space in the middle of town.
1/18/2023 Julian Catford
Is ort of suspect there are more people who would want a pool Man golfers, but the
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Ofersare louder.
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I'd l.ke to reea sv. —g pool fors... as the...rent.....really as ad spedmen.
team fortheir con-ah—Thank you m—I,fortakingthe flme m send yourthoughts.
What abaut—bmgthe golf— half the me at nine hales, and have a pool in the
other a seer along with continuing tails tar people to bike tide and walk on 1
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Currentty the whale golf course i, —eth,hg I would never ure and i, not available tar
walk or tide on, so I sort of feel it i,a waste tar me. If it was made into a pari:
with tails I would use it.
The tails Matare throughout the city far walking and ndingare ane of the wonderful
assets of Portiownsehd
1/18/2023 Tina
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would lovem see the golf course include activities form ore of the town to enjoy. Spe"Hcaily
Mountain View Commons. I have logged yourcomments and wiiishare Mem with Me Cty Coun"I and planning
have one section., corner have anew playground for kids. Thee t gIpIayg—hd, in the city
t earn fortheir con,,d,at,-. Thank yoummuch for taking the time td send yourthought,.
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repretty and and old. Haveyou seen—e of the pari:, other"ti,, have?! W e just m oved here
and we're shocked how poo. the playgrounds are. Se..rid keep the golf ...... b.t add d— golf
ell. Dls golf Is more a¢ersl ble, Cost, less and people of all ages an e,j,y.t We've ,,, th.s
done in other cities. I would recommend looking at the D,Laveaga course in Santa Cruz, a. they
have both golf and disc golf and itis atter",the town and tounrt,. Thank you.
1/18/2023 Janeanniweiker
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Keep the golf courrelltis an a s,ettothecommunity, providingaffordabieopen pace and
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—, on for everyone.There"no better use forthis property, and ail the alternate
tea m for their con„feat,... Thank yoummuch for to k,ngthe time td send yourthought,,
suggertions, many of Mem goad, could be bated somewhere else.
1/18/2023—haei Muray Hlit
Ith,nk it benefits Portiownrend for the golf course to remain intact. It is nice to have
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an open space.
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team fortheir can„ feat,... Thank you m much fo,-mgthe time m send yourthought,.
1/18/2023 Tem Woto
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Anyway of reducingthe number of holes and make a pubilc pari:? like a shared space?
Mountain View Commons. I have loeeed vows corn mems and will share Mem with the Qt, Coun"I and olannine
1/18/2023 Kathryn Enders
I prefer that the golf course stay as i,. Please include my input in your survey.Thank
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you
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share themwith Me Cty Coun"I and planning
team fortheir can„ feat,... Thank you m much for taking the time m send yourthought,.
1/18/2023 Ellen Momif
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Mountain View Commons. I ha -. your comments and will share them with Me Cty Coun"I and planning
team fortheir can„ feat,... Thank you m much fo,-mgthe time m send yourthought,.
support keepingthe golf course a,i,, a golf --that also functions as green space.
1/18/2023 Sander Wedel
Fix Mountain View Commons Leave golf course alone utile„you have avot, from ail citizens
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that sh ow a majority want the chahge.The"ry should be —e concerned about di—I, the
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infra— ure, the pothole,which arenot atter",ve to vi"tors, and the greaten need dor
team dor their con„feat,... Thank you mmuch dor taking the time td send you,thoughts,
affordable how"ng so businesses an Bind wori:ers.
NUMNIIINKmamol
Please keep the golf course as is. It reprereht, a mune of activity far many in the community. Ie
ons No, but we have plenty of am mitis, to dow— t,, try rousing
=b— August The bowling alley and the skating rink are gone, don't bks away the only
lookanmgaduit a ct.vity left. Everyone talks about the kids, well what about the —ll ll Kids are
ng for crucifies that will not be provided by replacing the golf course. They have pari:., they
309 have beaches and that have outdoors, HJ Canal pari:, Chebemoka pari:, fart Warden, North
beach, Cappys. res fewer than four people on mart of my outings in Cappye tails, doe. that
m we shoal d m ow dow n the trees and bol l d m ore"affordable" hour ng there'
We really
need to keep what we already have, there are pl enry of areas wher"af
e fordable" hour ng
developments an be established outside of the middle of town. In my experience, mart
"affordable" housing Is much less appealing to the eye of the passer by than a munidpd golf
course. Improve the inhanructure forth, golf courre and embace it as the asset itis.
1/18/2023 Steve Mader
Groundswell did not p ,"taloci golf course conveysion/adaptat,. idea at Open Hb—til,
consider the loci (Port W diow) example of a golf course conversion to walking/hiking
310 tails due to poorfinanciai performance of the golf course. Find a Kitrap Sun article aboutth,
financial troubles and closure of th,Taii Nine golf course here.
https'//arta
rchrve.kitmpsun.cam/sports/resot-pit, hdiowshhtting db—tail im, p-
'2 1113372 Find a tail map of the converted golf courre here
http1//portiudiowremrt.cam/wo-content/upioads/2020/07/Hiking-Ma.r2019 Reduced.pdf.
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team for their consid,at,-. Thank you m much for taking the t-, to send your thoughts.
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share themwith M, Gty Counc.i and planning
team for theirson-at—Thank you m much for taking the t-, m send yourthoughts.
1/18/2023 Rosemary Bums
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share them with M, Gty Counc.i and planning
team for theirson-at—Thank you m much for taking the t-, m send yourthoughts.
I'd like to see mixed use of the area. If golf is kept, I'd like hours far walkers m use it as well.
1/18/2023 Charier Hanfford
Please leave the golf courre as it is.
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c med my dads golf bags when l was a kid and those were such wonderful hours
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spent with my fathe,.
team forth,.r cons.deat.on. Thank you m much fortak.ngth, t— m send yourthoughts.
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The golf course provider openspace in the center of the community and giver another
sportingvenue in addition to the skate board pari:, which many of us are mo aid to
enjoy
1/18/2023 R.bakah Dara Mmarch,k
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would love m see the golf course stay a green area, but one that is more open m the public.
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Something with nice walking paths and open areas far picnics and such. Chetramoka is wonderful
team farther cons.d,at,-. Thank you m much fortak.ngth, t-, m send yourthoughts,
but ,it, small. The golf course as an open area and pari: would be fantastic far exeaire and stili
keep the donors intention as a recreation area. Also, the loci crass country teams could rnii use
it far aces, which is important to rupport,unent uses of the space in aur community.
1/18/2023 Dane, Ra—y
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share them with M, Gty Counc.i and planning
team for their cons.d,at,-. Thank you m much for taking the t-, m send yourthoughts.
I think it best for the community at this t-, for it m remain a golf courm.
1/18/2023 JO —att-ale"Ine
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Please make the golf course more inviting to the public. Weso need an Aquatic Center for the
team far they cons.d,at,-. Thank yoummucI, for taking the t-, m send yourthoughts.
health and fun of the community
1/18/2023 Joei Lewis
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share them with M, Gty Counc.i and planning
Pckie ball players are taking over all the c.ty'stennis tour[,, much to the dismay of tennis players
team for their cons.d,at,-. Thank you m much for taking the t-, m send yourthoughts.
Why leas[ a portion of the golf courm and build same pickle ball courts?
not take at
1/18/2023 Fii,-, Gur., The goif course should be keptasa small, m unicipai Solt course. Concerns over a so ah,d'—i Thank you so —i for yourinput for this community discussion a bout the Port Town send Gbif Course and
ority'see tto miss the point of 11-1—Y, It m bst people want the Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged your'omm,nt,a,d will share Memwith Me Cty Council and planning
golf courre, then so be it. Dp-space i,precious. Tum the efforts over the golf course team for their consideation. Thank y.umm uch for taking the rime t, send yourth.ught,.
bcr ting sib-market price housing for the people who keep the engine of PF g,I1g.The golf
ee should b, kept as a small, municipal golf course. C..'......... m .. I'd 'wai
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golf courre, thenso be it. Open space i, precious. Tum the eff-,.ver the golf curse
t. creating sub—i:et price housing for the people who keep the engine of PF 9,119
1/18/2023 Enc Tweiker
318 fawr the golf curse. The idea .f a blackberry patch ora housing pr.ie't ("The P,bj,,t,"I .ran
Indian casino just don't fit my ideal .f Port T.wl,end. It it ain't brake, J.ht fix it.
1/18/2023 Nicholas Magi,,
would like m'omm,ntin f—, bf aitematrve ores for the Solt courre. I unders2nd Mat many
may have sentimental ties t, rt, and that there are mme who snit regularly make use of it, but
the am.unt.f goad it brings could be s. much mare Ifred in different ways. Gbit iso sport that
takes up a huge a—ht.f space. You'ouid tit 31 soccer fields iota the space the Soft courre
takes up. W fth that space, we'ouid add a significant a—ht.f high density affordable housing,
iit,w spa
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a nd variety.f b-bbrac[ivities, ore i, large portion tar
hati tatnrehabihta—, and soa bi
li prbby have space left over taro driving 1119, and/or mini g,if
10.111. Nearly ail of the arguments I've seen for keeping the golf'burse relate t...
and
unity, both.f which'ouid be revved bett,rand mare b,badly with bther.sw of the space.
The others I imagine could pot—,ally be addressed by use of the Discovery Say g.ff --,
whichi,.niy a few miles away. I think Mat Port Tb -111d should not hold brim the pastarid its
dimilishingvalue tori select few, but instead look m the future and Its pot—IM tar aur
cbmmuntty.
1/18/2023 Dana Neiren
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Mountain View Common. I have logged your corn memsand will share Memwith Me Cty C.uncii and planning
team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for taking the t— m send yourth.ught,
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Mountain View Common. I have logged your comments andwill share Mem with Me Cty Cb—d and planning
am for their c—d—t—Thank you m much forta king the rime m send yourth.ught,
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Mountain View Common. I have logged your comments and will share Memwith Me Cty C.uncii and planning
team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for takllg the t— m send yourth.ught,
Keep the golf courre as i,l
1/18/2023 Aly,ha Waters
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I—, italone.lfa,ythingadvemse it so people coming m Port T,.—nd know we have a Solt
Mountain View C.mmbns. Ihave logged your corn t—,and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
talso rerves as an beenspace. l am sure New Yorkneed, hou,ingbuty.0 dont ...Mem
team fortheir consideation.Thankyou.mmu'hfortakllgth,t--s,hdyourth.ught,.
,eiling.ff Centai Parkin .rderm build housing. That.pen space/golf courre i, a beau[ifui part
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.f the heritage of Mi, town. I kn.w Mere are certain people on the City C.un'ii that have a
s son 9di,like tar g.1I gut during the pandemic m which we are stili in it rerves as not.niy
, but the ability m ,If theta,,,. Sometime, ane does not know haw lucky they are and
feel a need m put there rtamp on something new. New is not always better. It you want m db
something why dont you fix the condition .f aur r.ad,l
1/19/2023 Janet Polley
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team for their consideation. Thank you m much for takllg the flme m send yourth.ught,
Keep it a golf course or park
1/19/2023 Debbah SimpsonThankyou
so much for yourinput for this community discussion abbot the Port T.wl,end Gbit Course and
would like m see a more inteac[hve,etting for m,mbers.f the community m be able m engage Mo -tam View C.tons. I have logged your comment, and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
with members.f the CityCouncil as well as with each other. Although this, by nature, may
team for their co—d,at—. Thank y.umm uch for to kllg the nm e m send yourth.ught,.
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became f11c[Ious, it i, iit_'ondu'ive m the taditmn .f citizen involvement and the
opportunity m truly feel heard. This issue of whatm db with the Soft course property i, mo
importantm aur community m d. anything less. believe my fellow friends and neighbors feel
the same way. Pi—, give us the cW wise Dur voices and be Holy heard
1/19/2023 Jae ebb Moore
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Mountain View Common. I have logged your comments and will share them with the Cty Cb—d and planning
Pn.ritize swimmingpooi Keeptheg,If'ourseareain.pen,pa'e�etum the nativepame with
team fortheir consideation.Think y.ummuch forty kingthe nmem send yourth.ughts.
waikingtaiis. A native piantaihoretum would ..1..119, residents m plant native vegetarian.
1/19/2023 Kerry Rbbim
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Ithlnk the golf course should remain as ls.l don'twantfurther Increases In pr t, byes.
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tead.f embari:ing.na new spending pr.�,,, hi mem b,, the house you baiged.ver from
team for their co—d,at—.Thankyou.m much for takllg the flme m send yourth.ught,.
Canada m be used tar low I-- ho—hl, JI you should fix the roads.
1/19/2023 —b— Stone
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Mountain View Common,. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the Qty Cbuncii and planning
sec end that they leave the golf course osis and rebuild the pbbi bn the Mountain View
team for their cbnsideatibn. Thank you n —h for taking the t— t, send your thoughts.
property.
1/19/2023 Darby Cash
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Mountain View Cbmmbns. I have logged your --t, and will share them with the Qty Cbuncii and planning
team for their cbnsideatibn. Thank you n much for taking the t— t, send your thoughts.
I think they shbuid leave t as itis. Tb many reactors want t, get there hands bn it.
1/19/2023 Karen Archer
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wbuid ib—, see part bf the golf course remain and aisb adda mini putt puttcburre for youth
M buntain View Com m ons. I have logged your cbm m sots and will share Mem with Me Cty Cbuncii and planning
and adults. In addittn l Mink it wbuid greatiybenefitburcbmmunity t, create an arts center for
team for their c-,id,at,-. Thank you n—I, for taking the t— t, send yourthbught,.
children and adults t, pal pat, in while developing —unity art prbje't,that are offered
free to anyone who might wa ntW participate
1/19/2023JbAnn—pkln,
Ftu,ingin PT i,bb,—lya-t—1 problem creavngasituat—whereonly high income
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individuals aniivein town. Weare at n,k bf losing, what makes PT sb
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wonderful, its eclectic ang, bf creat,,, ,a,weii as bur m uch needed indrviduai, in the
team for their c-,id,at,-. Thank you n—I, for taking the t— t, send yourthbught,.
,ihdD ”" whether health are br re tail br r, L ant,. Affb-U, hbunngand
PT,hbuid be aur number one'bn'ern. But mart -p-ant, , Mi, i, simply a matter bf
anngfbr bur fellow humans
1/19/2023 Nancy
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Mountain View Cbmmbns. I have logged your --t, and will share themwith Me Cty Cbuncii and planning
team for their c-,id,at,-. Thank you n much for taking the t— t, send yourthbught,.
Keep the golf'..... as it currently i, -a, green open space. Nb development there)
1/19/2023 Syl--an
Thankyou sb much for yourinput for this community discussion abbutthe Pbrt Townsend Gbit Cburse and
wbuid like Me goit cbursem remain, green space/golf course that paysfbrrtseif eUi with
Mountain View Cbmmbns. Ihave logged yourcbmmentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
adda—al recreatibnai choices for the geneai pubilc—such a, a tail at the ---for running
team for their c-,id,at,-. Thank you n much for taking the t— t, send yourthbught,
br jogging AND/DR a few pickl, ball cburtsin the area between the dmreway and the ciubhbuse,
a children's piaygmund in the ams area with a jungie gym and other exertse things. The city
'Md charge a very small tee tar ore bf the court, bf 'burse.
1/19/2023 SYLVIA BOWMAN PT Gbit
-Id like the golf' burse to remain a green space/golf' burse that pays for Resit BUT with
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additibnai recreatibnai chbicesfbrthe geneai pubilc—such as.a tail at Mepenmeterfbrrunning
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brjbggingAND/ORa few pickieAsaii cburtsin the are a between the dmeway and the ciubhbuse,
team for their'—delh— Thank younmuch fort, kingthe nme t, send yburthbught,.
a children's playground in the ams area with a jungle gy,t and other exertse things. The city
'bold charge a very small tee tar ore bf the'burt, bf 'burse.
1/19/2023 Angela Gyurkb PT Gbit
It they want a golf'burse, they shbuid buy it fi-bm the city and run it at their own expenseThank
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without city doll,,. l .-Id love W use that space for the res[ bf th cbm munity. There sh bold
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be a row bf affordable—bfbrce twnhbure,/rbw h—e, aibngbne side, with the— bf it
team for their'—deah—Thank you n—I, for taking the t— t, send your thoughts.
pubilc garden space, wetland,, and walking tails.
1/19/2023 Cathy Langley PT Gbit
leave the golf course a,i,I Don't take anothera'trvity away fi-bm the kids. Where i, thehigh
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„hbbi boys and girls golf teams supposed t have pac[i'e and--,? There i, plenty bf other
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spaces for walking, hiking and pari:, bf all sorts, don't change anythingat the golf. c-- Build/re-
team for their c—deat,—Thank you n much for taking the t— t send yourthbught,.
build the P-1bn the space where it i,l And, I don't believe the city i, allowed to compete with
prorate business tar gym memberships.
1/19/2023 David Sa rti PT Gbitnpu
Ithink the Cty bukeep the golf' burse. Its—Id be upgaded and better maintained n that
for yit for t1h, —unity discussion abbot the Pbrt Townsend Gbit Cburse and
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Rbecbmesm breshotoid d—nah-torlo'ai&visiting goifers.Perhap, itgl, redesigned to be a
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a u, es,
little—ailer sb the property n aisb support other recreaal but eareep le, the
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tfor their'—delh—Thank you n—I, for taking the t— tour rend ythought,.
se. There i, precedent for this in other cMe Land Pari:tionin Sa'amento is a beautiful pari: in
the heart bf the city with many ores in'ludinga ha _nglittle gth'_'e.
1/19/2023 Elaine Baron PT Gbit
Keep the golf nurse... Il — from Cape George
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1/19/2023 Gail ebuiter PT Gbit
The goif'buae sh bold stay for ail who golf but e,penaily for bur eideriy citizens whban't afford
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the golf fee, at other golf courses. Itis accessible W these talk, at a n affbrda bis tee.
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team for their co—deah—Thank you n much for to king the nme t send yburthbught,.
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Keep the golf c.urre, set up miniature golf, more acnvrties for youth.
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1/19/2023 Jayne Marek PT Goif
Please designatesm.d-,n.n.btrusiv, rection bb, '.meh.u'ing(dupiexes.rsmailapartment
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building). Th—could b, in the rection that lies along-Ib,,Street,b.accessand because there
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s near by homes already, there by ma king it easier to runutilm— Put in mm e pubilc walking
team bb, their c.nsideati.n. Thank y -u much bor to king the time m send your thoughts.
ails m take advantage.b the shady areas as wells'sunny areas. Same b,t.bpubilc—t—
would be helpful, or signs guiding to apubilc —t— at Mountain View (bb, easier
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main en ace). A water fountain or spig.t,l presume, should be available. Ib disc golf"--giy
r ended, perhap'a discgoib route could be made (as at H J Carron Park). I do not think
regular goibis vra N,anymore, and there i,a oath,, golf course a few miles away; there i' no
other big green space like this in town. PI—, make it fi,—diie, to thousands mare people!
Thankyou.
1/19/2023 Ra ndy Rounds PT Goif
keep the golf course with 1-1min.,imp,.v,m,nts like adding a miniature goifr.urre(n.t
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cheery but like the. n, in Sun Valley Idaho, so rim„ the miniaturec.urse in Sun Valley has
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re people playing golf on rtthan the buiisize course. It ai'.h,ip' get new yolks intererted in
team b.rtheir c.nsideati.n.Thank yoummuch farts king the time m send y.urth.ughts.
th„part.
1/19/2023 David Meissner PT Goif
I'm Inter -dl n keeping the Golf courre. The golf Course.. a legaq to our town. In f—he
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se should be supported and promoted. l a'm support a wellness center at —t,m View
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Gammons or nearerm the hospital.
m bortheir c.nsideati.n. Thank you m much b.,takingth, time m send y.u,th.ught'.
1/19/20238r1an H. .-- PTG Online
I'm nota golfer, but doesn'tminlI,— the faa that the golf nurse is a beautiful place! Covering It
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up wltha developmentin my opinion would be a travesty, l haven'tllved h...I g, butgota
Mountain View Commons. I have logged you, --t, and wf-',M,mwith M, Cty Council and planning
feeling lhatthls mmmuniry down'twantmuch growth, by trying to keepthe small town feeling
team bortheir c.nsideati.n.Thank yoummuch farts king the amen send y.urth.ughts.
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small. That is ane Mingthat attact,d me to came here. S.m,g,.wth i'in...tabi,, but this plan
would have a devastating effect a nd an undesial,I pact on this beautiful com nonny.
1/19/2023 Matth,w(n.lart name)
Please keep the golf course a golf c.urs,. Th...a re so many parks, walking to I,—hat are
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noddy —ilabi,b.,the pulk,If its about needing better pari:, that offer —11b future
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g,n,ati.n'etc,worl: on the1—mg parks. There i' enough out there a laady-,p the golf
team bo, their c.nsideati.n. Thank you.m much bo, to king the time m send you, thoughts.
se a of course.
1/19/2023 Kenneth Thompson
How manyes have a go If course reght in the middle.b t.wnl Port Townsend sh.uidb,
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promotingthis l.ai gem bo, visitors to,ni.y. The city council promotes Water meet tauants
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but few othe,attac[ionsin Mi' t.wn. Whil,!can unde t -d the commons being a molt,”
team bo, their c.nsideati.n. Thank y -much bo, to king the time m send y.urth.ught'.
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e, I don't support the .b the golf course bo, a nythmg other than golf. I really don't
understand the city starting this process.b repurposing the gold course
1/19/2023 Douglas Rodg
think the b- thingt. do i, to keep M,goif course osis. Ibth,remurt be a cl-g,,k-p the
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space open, no development Al'. c.nsiderexpandingthe Kah Tai pane.
Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged yourc.mmentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
team bortheir c.nsideati.n. Thank you m much farts kingthe nme m send y.urth.ught,
1/19/2023 A1,andna R.s'.ff
Once green space i' gne....it i'gone b.reverl Often, actions are taken, before thea isan
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understanding long term impilations.Please retain the golf course, and they—tyob.ur unique
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n .b Port T.wnrend.
m bo, their c.nsideati.n. Thank you m much bo, -mg the time m send y.urth.ught'.
1/19/2023 Rachel Lindqvist -Sandie
Itrulyh.p, that the city recognizes how lucky wear, to have this beaut,I open g,,,n'pacein
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the meddle of our mmmuniry.l'm oppored to developing this land Into any kl ndof housing. This
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area needs to be open to the pubilc ass pari: with tails f.rwaiking/blkin g. As bo, Me pool, put
team bo, their consideation. Thank yoummuch bo, to king the nme m send yourthought,
same money into fwbg up the pool, we don't need to spend money on another ane.
348 1/19/20231mant' Gaits
Make It w, to ail people, not justgolfers. Some apartment type h.u'ingina comer.k.
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1/19/2023 Pete, Rowan
please leave the goibcourre as It i'.PI—,pI—,pI—, Hx.urrtreets.
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share them with M, Cty Council and planning
team bo, their c.nsideati.n. Thank you m much bo, -mg the time m send y.u,th.ught,
1/19/2023 Lowell tnuchard
Ian infaw,.f ex bbbgthe us,bfth, PTgoib Course'.that others my,nj.yth-pace.
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However, it should not be at the expense.b green and open area'(-h.using... th„buildings.)
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Awaiking path and imp,.v,d wiidiff,hab,-area'(b., wa-f—I --k,blyd') ,avid be at
team for theirc—d—t—.Thankyou.m much fb,-ng the time m send Y, ht,
the tap .b my lirt.
1/19/2023—haei order I support keepingthe present golf courre area as green open space but without Me golfcourse. Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
tad develop mixed pubilc use...taiis, picnic areas Expand native pame.eaiI-,dbi I, tail Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with Me City Council and planning
351 ft. F t— t,, Mtn View. Keep rertauantbut no housingoIbusinesses. Charge fr downtwn team for theirc—d—t—Thank yoummucI, for to king the time m send your thought,
parking if revenue is an issue. Michael Carder. 3310 Kuhn St—
heard there was a survey, couldn't Hnd it. I'm on a phone. HI. I'm Coco and I've lived in pA. tar
about 5 years naw. I've often wanderedwhat could be done with the golf cousin, hardly anyone
eber goes there. -1,1 9n someone who wrote in t the leader and did Me math, a Half
round of golf gets played hers wash day of the year. Nat a goad use of the city water ortaxpayer
oney. I've aim heard that land was left to Me city t be a golf coure in perp —Iy, In that are,
have an idea. W by not mini golf course? this would be a family mons[ dertlnation, which would
352 bong families in town to spend money, visit downtown or neighboring uptown. Kids are a Tway,
hungry. cOuid possibly be a boon tar aur loci economy. eat at leartaii that water wouldn't be
rted on a "-P't" ai basis. Same construction of the mini golf hales would be needed, and
perhaps stili same gals, but not so much water needed. W e marl also tthink about our future
r._"ty. that water couldbe ore to meet the needs of ail Me people moving h—.-h,Ifspace allows, keep a putting green forthe dads. Seriously, there iso nice golf course nearby.
This duplicate facility is underused. Perhaps this might boon the business of Me nearby courre
at uChevy chase also.Personally, neither m ,If or i,y friends play go if, eat we might love nigoif I know I would play. And this iso game that an be played solo or in groups, which will
bring even mare people out m play. Ali ages enjoy mini golf. And we an ail enjoy this bp-
-- not junta privileged few. Thanks tar listening. Coco Heath Ps please feel free to .,it me
herewith any que,tions
1/19/2023 Daniel Boot
As the golf course does serve same people in the area, it iso lot of space fora fewpeopie. I feel
353 the land use could betters rerve a greater number of citizens by beingdesigned fora mare
diverseuse, such as walking, pet walking, bi Img, natureob.... on and perhaps even
demoting same acreage to high density affordabiehousing.
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team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the time t send your thoughts.
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1/19/2023 L—, Hamner Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Since the current golf course is used so little and costsm much to maintain, Iprbp—th, Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, andwf -, Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
following miniature golf that would keep Tool families ntounrts entertained-thgreat potential team for theirc—d—t—Thank yoummucI, forts king the rime m send yourthoughts.
354 for fundairers,a dining ange, a wellness center with a pool, tails torwaiki ,, picnic benches,
etc. This would appeal to many mare talks For thorn wh-,t-ily play golf, Discovery Bay iso
much bettercourse, according to , husband whi,g.lf, there and gave the PF course many tiles
before switching. Thank yoummuch foaii your effort, towards revitalizing aur mucI, b -d
own
1/19/2023 Jan Sp- -Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Golf Course and
It the golfcoarse is totally self suffi tient including regularmaintenance, watenng,improvements, Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with Me City Council and planning
355 c, than l think that we should have a discussion on pros and cons ofkeeping. It taxpayers have earn for theirc—d—t—. Thank yoummucI, torts king the time m send your thought,
to pay for anythingin bl—g the golf coarse, Men it shouidbe din bl— and the City moves on yo
use that area tar mare pressing problems likeadoabie apt,/homes in a pari: like k e setting.
1/19/2023 Alfred Cass
The PF Gait Course and Paine should be retained alis. Greater effort, planning, —
df—d,—Id be devoted to opening up the area to enlarged participation by --d—, Thisis
356 tirely possible osis evidenced by the way many oMer golf course Ml—the pubilc to walk on
the courre at certain times of the week (e. g. the golf courrein the Highlands at Dave Mountain in
Moana, Al—). There are otherav -, thatan be pursued to enhance participation in this
facility as- vsts. Thatshouidbe thefocus of the city,not--"g particularviews that favor
adicai departure from aconser_l" viewpoint.
1/19/2023 Suan Hopkins
357 Keep the Gait Course) Put your energies into mare parking downtown and H —g MI Meroads in
1/19/223 KC Up -.town...
358 encouage aur Cty Councii to preserve Me golf course and aur community spaces asys. The golf
se providesinner�ity green space. It we lose it naw, we'll never be abieto rebuild or replace
such space.
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team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the time m send your thoughts.
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team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the time m send yourthought,
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1/19/20231aura Women I -b like til see me golf course land repurposed In a Way that makes!, --bb to
the entire community and mainly children In the community. I do not think that golf Ia
i," aive,pracftcal, or sustainable purpose for the city to subsidize. The land should
be,sed dynamically asa host fol community functtona, historical reverence fol Ieamlng
re about the local S,kl all am tribe and the location's significance to them. There sho, Id
be halls for people to ride
than bikes and walk to safely navigate car free community
bans!, Many children In the area ride their bikes and to Ik around the golf course to get
m each of the a,rro,ndmg acnoofs If the the gaff ao,rae W ere open m mem they tau 1d
nave a safer and more efficient route. The youth In pore townsend do not have enough
spaces for themselves to bat, hang out and have fun. The buildings a beady In
the golf course... ld and should be repurposed to hostsuch entire other golf course
already on the penlnsulal Amenities geared toward local youth. Lastly, the golf course la
costly and hazardthing to occupy such a large swath of land where land Ia quite
nsous inned on the penins, Ia. It is a major safety threat and liability for the city. Friends and
eighbors who Ilve across San Juan Ave, reg, lady have golf balls hit Into their yards
People nave been hit or narrotly missed byrog,a golf ba IIs then talkng a rang 19th
and San Juan. Others have had than car tin dots broken by golf balls It simply does not
Hake any sense to keep the golf course In order to appease an exclusive, aging minority.
They are apeakng the most and the loudest because It la easter to garner engagement
then something Ia being defended than to drat the thole of the community to
onatruct something net, b,ttha golfers are very much a minority (cite the int rates of
nuaf use and the fact that the golf course requires sub-,taI subaldlzati., to
remain). There la also an entire other golf course already on the penlnsulal
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1/19/2023 Pat Durbin PT Goff
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leave the golf wurseav is. Itisatoy to go there -d wa nd,T through a l l the openspaces(100 Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --ti, and will share Memwith Me Cty Council and planning
NOT use ltfor golf and never have, so thatls not part of my a Benda). It's a beautiful open space team tortheir—adea—. Thank you.m m uch for to king the time m send yourthought,.
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with great views and is part of the history of the City v✓th the statue of Chezem aka displayed
there. The worst po-bl, Ming would be affordable h—,, I've seen mo many beautiful public
op en a nasi, other pare of the countrylivedin years ago turnedinto housing that robbed
longtime --dents of the open spaces they love.
1/19/2023 Wii Bertsch PT Goff
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supportcontinuation of a public golf courseif It la economlca lly viable. That la, the gge your 1-11t,an y p g
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ontracted proprietor needs to be able to pay a 11 operations l and maintenance costs and y—th
team tortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch forts k,ngthe timem send yourthoughts.
all capitaIimprovemerit costs directly re lated to the golf course. I'm ok With th e City
providing landacapmg and environmental/ecological Improvementa that support rang
term mu Iflpu,p— use or Improvements I tau Id support the course being used by
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walkers/hikersafter hours and an area set aside for picnics and playground If feasible. If
the golf course cannot be economlca Ily self suatalning via golfer fees or memberships
then I would recommend the land be converted to a ,Ituse city park to Include
playground and picnic areas, nature trails etc.! would oppose selling or leasing the nand
for commercia I development. would al- be opposed to the city developing the land for
housing', market, lot income ono
otherwise. Keep the land green space or for recreation
mth limited disturbance of the Ian d.
1/19/2023 L—aa McMillen PT Goff
Iwouid like m see affordable housing built ins portion of the golf courseand Me reit ofthe la rid Thank you so —n for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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to be green space that isaccessibie mall foik,.ithout a fee. While Me goifrourse i, good Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged your comments and will share Mem with Me C ty Council and planning
asport that 11.,dely played is the coin niunity. Internis of Mountain Vie., l team tortheir con„d—tmn. Thank you.m m uch for to king the time m send yourthought"
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fuilyesupport rine. aMiet,c c_Pi,x with a variety of sports—i't,esiadi,d,ng a new pool and
recreational an,—that invite part,npation forth—p my of aur loaf population. Thanks.
1/19/2023 --Hopkins PT Goff
Keep the Goff Course) Put your energies into —1 bi-i:in —ato.n a rid fixings l ofthe roads Thank you so —n for yourinput for th,s —ii ity d,s—a- about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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1/19/2023 KC Up,ha. PT Gofflencourz9"'
our Gty Counni to preserve Me golf course and our community spacesasys.Th, golf Thank you so ni uch for yourinput for this community d,,—a- about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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se provide,innermity green space. If welose it now,we'iI never be W, to rebuild or rapists Mountain Vie. Commons. I have logged your --ti, arid.,,, share Mem.,th Me C ty Council and planning
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such a space. team for their can„ d—tmn. Thank you m much for to king the time m send yourthought"
1/19/2023 taua cornw-ii PT Goif Iwouid like m see the golf course land r-purpo--d in a way that makes it acreseibie to the entire Tho nk you so much for your„put for this comm unity discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
Online co unity and mainly children,, the commutiny. I do not Mink that golf, -1 -iv -,p--1, Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the City Counciland planning
orsusa„abi- purpose for the city m subsidize. The la rid should be used dyna —hy asa has[ tar tea it for theirc—d—t— Thank youm it uch for to king the time m send your thought,
unity functions h,rmricai reverence tar i-am„g mare about the local -'k10— trid- and
the loatio ti's signiHance W them. There should be tails tar people to tide their b,k--and walk
safely navigate arfree community transit. Many children,, the area tide Meir b,k-sand walk
o safely navigate arfree community transit. Many children,, the area tide Meir bike -and walk
u,d the golf course to get to each of the surrounding schools. It the the golf courre were open
ao them Mev would nave a afeI — more-ffi-It
mutt. The yoot„ PoreTownsend do not
have enough spaces forth -ms -Ives to be creative, to hang out and have fun. The buildings
already„the golf course could and should be r-purpo-ed to hast such amenities geared toward
loaf youth. tartly, the golf—,e costly and hazardous thing t, occupy such a large swath of
land where land , quite limited on the pe„isola. It„a major aftey threat and Aabiity for the
city. En -,d -and neigbors who live acc — San Jau, Ave, regularly have golf balls hit into Meir
yards. People have been hit or narrowly missed by rogue golf balls when walking along 19th and
San Juan. Others have had their ar windows broken by gold balls. It simply does not make any
s to keep the gold course,, orderto appease an anexiusiv-m a ging minority. They a ie
speaking the mart and the louden beau -e itis asier�o gam-rangagem net when something,,
be„gdefended than to daw the whale of the —unity to construct .,thing new, but the
goiters a revery much a minority (cite the low ares of annual use and the fact that the golf
requires-ubrtantai su b-id,zati-to ie—h). The—aim a n entiregolf c—,eal,eady on
teh peninsula
1/19/2023 Suzy Elbow PT Goif lam a Port Town send reside,t.l'm„my 30 -and trent anapartme,t„t—wort: ,, pub, 1, Thank you so much for your„put for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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Onle. I d like to live here long term,and l' d love to mmeday be able to ownaom
he here,but Mountain View Common,. I have logged your com mento and will share Memwith M- Cty Council and platin„g
the f-aabilay of that„ really tied to housing and affordabii,ty and a—lathty gmgforward. am for their con,,d,at,-. Thank youm much for taking the time m send yourthought-.
When started seeing the lawn sign„n support of preserving the golf course and th - 'op-, green t
-p— I mediatiy telt concerned that this might be the only prospective on this prof-ct that
—, ehgagingi,it -,gU community organ -mg, even though l know that Mere a re many
people here who share pr--pe—e-like mine. I've —bed,, the-,v,ornme,tai field,, the past,
doing-cologiai i -,at— I've volunteered at Kah Ta, Pame and think it's an important space
and should ab,i,Mly be pr--erved,n any rteation of this prof -R. However, a golf courre,s not
h,gh quality green space. Ifs nota iertored habitat, densely populated with native plants, that
would be piay,nga moreimportant rale tar aur local ecosystem. Gait „a niche sport with
signiHant buys, -pe—,that requires a huge amount of arefuily manicured land. Ti, land x
of particularly accessiWet
le to the ge,-ai puM, it,, tar goiter. W e also have data d-mo,rtahng
that this gold course,, not thmr„gHnanciaily. I would live to see this land aorto uses that better
e -the current and emerging need-„ourcommon,ry. l know that we have a profound
needfor more affordable and middle hou sing option,. I can,magmethat the space would be uad
-igniHantly mare if it were iepurposed for any number of poaibi- projel,, since the golf course
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t,e ,, a rertric[ive use of land. Same of,t could beset aside tar proper habitat ie -oration. The
rvey put out by the city offered a number of great option,. I think the worst outcome would be
for this h,gh,alue, centahy bated land to continue to sit asys. In aur current mc,ety, where
—mg tremendous national housing crisis amou,g other,ssues, hav,nga golf course
within -city limits,- simply poor land use, and it certainly has no place,, a community, that,
looking to the future and try „g to e,,e the actual needs ofit, residents.
1/19/2023 Nicholas Magi, PF Gbit Hello, l already submitted feedback through the survey, but l thought of aloth,rida old didn't Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Gbit Course and
Online bsub-t a repeat form a rid skew the results. My ida that—, tl—d as a possibility in Mountain View Cbmmbns. I have logged your --t, wlii share Mem with the Qty Cbuncil and planning
thesurvey is m a dd a facility for fencing, either bn the golf cburse campus br the Mt.View team for theirc—d—t— Thank youm m uch tbrta king the t— m send your thbughts.
ampul. F,nci,gi, a great sport that supports bath physiai and mental Htn,ss, and is playable
by people age, tb S1(there are even bfHai competition backers forage 80 and over).
Facilities can 11191 tram fairly mad- m fairly large, but have fairly simple needs (open indoor
space and same ,l,ctriai and able inrtalanbns). It run m a similar way wthe pool, a caapi, of
employees with mm, fencing experience could manage guns and maintain a pbbi bf equipment
that —Id be lent m those who db not have their awn. Ideally, ane or mare instructors cbuid be
found and contacted tb provide lessons as well. Cb- -0d be recouped by charging quertsa
mall tee tb are the facility, perhaps with membership options for those who wish regular access,
andby takilga cut ft. class tees. While dedicatinga facility Wth]s alone may be not feasible, I
imagine it could —I, as pare bf alarg,r indoor recreation faciiry/gym, m If thatis under
--,at— I hope that fencing facilitl,stbuid b, a part bf itl
1/19/2023 -- —a PF Gbit I would like m... the golf cburse turned into an arboretum and pari: with tails and gardens and Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion abbot the Port Town send Gbit Cb—, and
Online the pain,allowed tb expand. A bonus wbuid be m have a space set aside forioai gatherings M ountain View Com m ons. Iha- ibgg,dyour comments aid will share Mem with M, Cty Cbuncil and planning
but I don't want It tb be mo comm,,—I. Another fantasy I had wastb tum P-Tbwls,nd water tam for their consid,at,-. Thank you m much for taking the t— m send yburthbughts.
arida lot bf downtown int, p,d,nrial only, have city parking at the current membra i Heid ,
and move the ball Heid but bf downtown m the golf cburse area and pbbi area.
1/19/2023 Kristin Cannan PF Gbit Kindly leave the golf cburse asis.120 years taditibn may not m can anything to you, but my
Online fa milt' has played that cburse for geneatibns. It is one of the las[ affordable public cousrses
aaand, nottb mention the at,azllg—ay bf wiidhf, thatis sustained by the gr„,space. A—t
there other placed for recreation center/housing that make mare sensed like the actual site of
the p -i? The Mt. View complex is a b]g piece of land, that is beggilgtb be r,imagil,d. The 14
cr, 31h St Pari: looks like it cbuid very well serve the purpose and x located right by Blue
Heron. That wbuid be a wonderful opportunity for the kids. As a taxpayer, I don't agree with the
bney that is wasted for all the consultants this town hires. The money that has been spent
tht,
maid have been ured bn im prbvm,nts for the golf cburse. Snip fightmg us and start wo 1mg for
us. The city dbem't have a great Hack retard when rt tames tb b]g prbjeRs being completed bn
and bn budget
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tb look up on the hili behind the golf cburse m be reminded bf
the giant debacle thatis the Cannel. W by should we t— you —? Meanwhile, the g,n,ai
despair bf meets and maintenance continues. Mare and mare it --as Ifth, city is -1ybut
for"shareholders" and all of us who actually pay are just left with the tab. The people of P-
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artTowlrend wbuid really app -at, a mare pagmat, approach tb running this town. It youall
really need a project I wbuid start thinking abbot a new sea wail.
Tha lk you so much for yourinput for this comm unity discussion abbot the Pbrt Townsend Gbit Cburse and
Mountain View Cbmmbns. I have logged your --t, and will share Memwith M, Cty Cbuncil and planning
team for their can-at—Thank you m much for taking the t— m send yourthbught,
1/19/2023 Debbi Steele PF GOif I saw this letter to the editor and it ab,OluHely addresses my thoughts on the golf course. Th. Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send GOif Course and
.mitis golf --,i, NDTa good use of our funds, l hope the new group we hired an provide a much Mountain View Commons. I have togged your --t, and will share them with the City Council and planning
better and mare inclusive alternative. In last week's letter to the editor titled "golf course b—fift, team for their c—deah—Thank you m much for taking the time t, send your thought,
unity" the autos concludes by asking, "There i, only ane skate pari:, would we take
that auras not everyone uses its" This i, a faire analogy as the skate pari: is33 acres wheal the
golf courre i, 58 acres, or 111 times the size Of the skate pari:. It the skate pari: were 58 acres,
would anyone say that wasa goad ure Of pubilc la rid? W by do we allow goiters, who represent a
tiny taction Of the population, t, monopolize so much space? thy the golf course's awn numbers,
a paltry 32 rounds Of golf were played the entire month Of August 2022, or just aver ane
and/dayI In ail Of 2021, they were 212 rounds played, Or.58 rounds/day. It it takes about two
hours to play a round Of golf, this means that the golf courre sat empty appr_,_tiy 95 percent
Of the year with it being used by a single goiter the other 5 percent. It you don't believe me, just
dmr, part the golf courre almost
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time Of the day. Furthermore, unlike the golf course, the
skate pari: do.sm't ure vast sums Of water, supplied by the city at zero cast. According the le-
agree—ht, the golf course enjoy, up t, 9 million gallons Of city water per year free of charge
while playing I mere 6.5 percent Of sales (Or $lOK, whichever i, greater) in taxes. The skate pari:
also do.sm't require large quanti., Of femirzersand gasoline, bath Of which are damaging to aur
en other words, the golf course iso poor use of pubilc land,and one that would
argue iso net loss for aur community and enviommentas opposed m a net benefit. Thankfully,
thesis something you can do to help right this wrong. Me— consider submitting a comment at
cityofpt. ,attending the open house form 5 W J p.m. Wednesday, Jan 11 at the Fart WO—I,
Gammons, and talking with your trends and neighbors about the issue. Pubilc Opinion will play
important tole in thecity's decision about future of the golf course. I hope you will make your
c. heard in support ata mare inclusive, equitable, and enviornmetaily responsible Tse Of aur
pubilc land.
1/19/20238 —b— Starr PF GOif last
Ib.l.rv. that the--bundance Of goiters you are getting i, due tO the fact that the pool Tho nk you sO m uch for yourinput for this comm unity discussion about the Port Town send GOif CCb—,. and
.mitis sup ports a re exhausted from time, and question the sincerity Of this po,ibilay, A pool i, Mountain View Common,. Ihave logged yourcomments a,d will share them with the Cty Council and planning
Taira Ourphy,iai weiibeing,e,p.ciaily ihthese difficult times. Not sure where the best site team for their—Thank- cdeah— ymmuch forty kingthe time t, send y, ht,
fora new pool i, (,O sorry I couldn't make the meeting; we had a schedule conflict). W, need
e into On the pro,and cans Of each, est we desp.atiy need a new pool t, help maintain the
health Of aur alder population.
1/19/2023 C-1 Barrow PF GOif IwhOlehearcediy suppothe golf course remainingas i,. For those Of us who use it regularan
regularly it i, Thk you sO m uch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend GOif C-11 and
.mitis alif.line. Thecom rt t—ty has lots Of pari:,,trails,playgrounds, sports fields, picki.baii court,,a Mountain View Gammons. I have logged your --t, and will share them with the City COuncii and planning
dog pari:, skate pa .....petanquecourt,And we,upporttem MIL Truly, you want a tax team fortheirc—deah—Thank y- much fortakingthe time t, send yourthought,.
incr re there.It1 ail good, eat please, lea , please db not take away the -td—
that.,
utdoorthatwe love.lt', Ourexertse,a phy,iai(and menton) challenge, Oursocializ3tion,aur
oral health ,If —, (and trun me when I say tar same Of u, this is critical). while goifongwe
rt the wiidirf, that live there, have an awesome view Of the Olympic MOuntian, W gave at, and
enjoy aur hours Outdoors, air Or shine, year --d. W e wave at the walkers and runners we see
n the courre and are arefui not t, hit while they are in the vicinity. I don't know why same
have raid the cause is closed tO the nongoifing pubilc-we Often see rt used by Others. Weare
progressive in aur politics and feel at home in PF, but this attack (tor that',whot it feels like) has
made us question whether we are valued here. Gait is the -,t/ —t— that i, left tO u, in aur
last years. — are stili youngand haven't yet .xpereinc.d aging in the„Oci.ty. I'm guessing that
by the time you reach Our age you will better unde t -d it, h— d,—rded -, an feel. Pi—,
don't take away ane Of the few jays (beside, grandkid,) we have left. — may never be a goiter,
but I'm guessing someday you'll hhde —d. Thank you.
1/19/2023 Pamela Gay PT Goif
The golf course wastes water when we are headed for m ore and m ore waters—h,g—lawn Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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provides no return to the enviomment. It hoses. carbon, corn pared W trees. Itpro-,. Mountain View Commons. I have logged your corn mems and will share Mem with the City Council and planning
food for inrects, which are tribal to heaity ecoryrtems(which, believe it or not, we are part of team for their c,—d—h-. Thank yuan —h for taking the t— m send your thought,
and reliant on), it provides nothing for birds, which are also declining ate, bea ure of human
expansion. The only goad thing the golf—provides iso vie, which tar same ramn, even
thoughwe unded on 3 sides with views hundreds of miles across, the view to vers an't
to Hn dr The pane is very important and should be expanded and protected fi-om the deer.
The e is no need for the golf course W cover ALLthe valley. There is plenty of room fi-om trees, a
pea patch forpeople to grow food on, and same units of nny houses. Mountain View could easily
be converted to apartments or shelters and same of the property could be planed with native
sees a rid shrubs. The dogara is too boring for dogs without other dogs t play with trees m
ages could be planted there m m the future they could go exploring a rid " hunflng'. If someone
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ning the, they jun stand there. Garry Oaks m ages should be planted t ad once the
the migation North of future climate appropriate plants Sucking out the watertabie to water
gass is reckless and hurt slily, notto mention the risk of alt waterincuaion. If you warn W help
golfers, provide bus results to the other golf course on Discovery eayl If some people started
taking the climate cnsys seriously, especially elected officials. W e caul have a golf course AND ail
the other cnncaily needed improvmentsto housing, local food production, and ampant
Z,restation of the PN W, which is driving climate change along with ail the ren of the global
deforestation (and Nres and permafors[ melting wfit massive Hresin the taiga and peat bogsasa
resuikt, and everyncreasing oii consumpttn supported by subsidies by ail the internanonai
governments, inciudingourIf s Timet LEAD, not let an ignoant/denying LOUD minority
determine the future of aur peninsula.
1/19/2023 Michelle Reddei PT Goif
Please consider sum e type of hybrid use of the golfc-- This would allow —e people to use Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
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this wonderful space while allowing the golfers to rail u,I— the course. A new pool and Mountain View Commons. I have logged your corn merits and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
community center would be idea. team f,, LILA, c—deah—Thank you m much for taking the rime t, send yourthought,
1/19/2023 Richard Kiddie PT Goif
leave the golf course alone. Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share them with Me Cty Councii and planning
team f,, LILA, c—deah—Thank you m much for taking the rime t, send yourthought,
1/19/2023 Art Sloane PT Goif
I'm eidedyand an't ure the golf course, butt believe rt should remain. Gbfiso g—tac,I for Thank you so m uch for yourinput for thiscommunity discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
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aimort Mlages. Golfers—haver lose.m that the needs of othergroups can be met lets Mountain View Commons. I have logged yourcomm entsand will share Memwith Me Cty Council and planning
tryW not do addition by subtacnon. team fortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch forty kingthe rimem Bendy— houghts.
1/19/2023--Wahigren PT Goif
Leave golf nurse a loneIWasn't tha to sb palati on when the d ry gotl t7 Thiswasm eantto stay Tho nk you so m uch for yourinput for this comm unity discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Couaeand
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.what, --- PUT ALLTHE CALIFORNIA ELSEWHERE. Mountain View Commons. Ihave loggedyourcommentsand will share Mem withMe Gty Counciland planning
team fortheir consideation. Thank you m much forty kingthe rime m send yourthought,
1/19/2023 William Thomson PT GoifIw-Id
like t see the PT golf—property adapted into something that the whole corn nanny Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Couaeand
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c and not just the small(buty— b part of the community Mat a dually golfs. It would be Mountain View Commons. I have logged your corn merits and will share Memwith Me Cty Council and planning
greatiocation Wbuiida new community swimming pool and mhletic facility and a imapubilc team for theirc—deah— Thank you m m uch for taking the rime t send yourthought,
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1/19/2023 t—McComas PT GoIf
Keep the golf nurse. Once you letltgoit's gone forever. It's part of PT—k,, PortTownse.d Thankyou so m uch foryourinput forth,, community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
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unique, like having a state pari: m the city limns. Develop a lease thatprovides some incentive for Mountain View Commons. I have logged your corn merits and will share Mem with the City Council and planning
the opeator to Invest In Improvement. Ash- term —d—Wt provide adequate 0me for the team f,, LILA, c—deah—Thank you m much for taking the rime t send your thought,
opeatorto recoup money spent onimprovements (which end up belongingto the city). Encourge
the opeatorto add Mingsthat would bring mare young people to use the golf course ie foot
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(sac er golf). FuiH III obilgation of providing needed irrigation materiaisand parts. Have a
sliding scalefor revenue sharing to int -,—e the opeatorto incrare business and revenue.
letthe opeamr share m the Main Street/city —Ilike other business an. People wiiispend
m hey in town and on lodging not just on golf Develop the Mountain View property furan
aquafic/ community health site.
1/19/2023 Willy marl: PT G.ib
Irtrongly favor the golf course area becoming a pubik pari: with trails for hiking a ndbiking a rid Thank you so —h bar yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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me picnic —a, ,often bi I, up San Jua n Men up F t—to th-0 to Tremont at P—fi Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the City Council and planning
I Street l would say that g .... Oy l see more people on thatch -tail than tree on the whole—fortheirc—deah—Thank y -u much fortakingthe flme m send y—th-ght,
golf c.urre. Far safety reasons golf dictates l.wvolume use but even so it a ppears to —that the
hiking tail is mare popular than golf
1/19/2023 Helen Rect PT Goif
Pleaseleave the golf 1-11as open space. No b19b Ildlhgs.rparkingi.ts. if it cann.tc.nh— Thank you so much bb, yourinput bor this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Courseand
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sa golfcourre,ertabilsh—walking tails, maybe one bb, off leash d.gs.The pool should not Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
be moved. If we need a bigger pool, build ane. team bor theirc—deah— Thank you mmuch bor taking the flmem Bendy_ h.ughts.
1/19/2023 Mm— Gaenicke PT G.ib
KEE P TH E GOLF CDURSEIIII Thank you so much bb, yourinput bb, this community discussion about the Port Town send Goib Course and
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Memwith Me Cty Councii and planning
team bb, their c—deah—Thank you m much bor taking the flme m send y.urth.ughts.
1/19/2023 Barisaa JO Blair PT Goib
Pn.M—bor the Goib Course. Maintain or expand the pane with the Native Plant Society and Thank you so much bb, yourinput bor this community discussion about the Pb, Town send Goib Course and
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S'K.,—Tribes, Maintain and P1111111 S-1-1 Rock and Statue, Continue to have agolf course, M...rain View Commons. I have logged your com merits and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
but —,iffy it tar speedier play and make r..m bb—t— tails with native habitat.. the NE side. team b.rtheir c—deah—Thank you m much b.r2kingthe flme t. send y— h.ughts.
'—"ta government tbgovemmentc.nsuitati.n with the Ja -b— S' K10—and Part
Gamble robes t. inquire If th y -id manage the golf curse. W.uid there be a way t. deed
them the land since it is theirs a nyway?
1/19/2023 Ann waters PT G.ib
Keep the golf curse osis l Thank you s. much bar yourin tbb, this community discussi.nab— the Port T.wnsend G.ib Curse and
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M.untain View C.mm.ns. I have logged your --t, and will share them with Me Cty C.uncii and planning
team for theirc—deah— Thank you mmuch for taking the flme t. send y— h.ughts.
1/19/2023 mart' be, PT G.ib
Iw..Id like m see, hybrid including a smaller f..tprintgolf curse minus the drivingange with Thank you s. much f.ryourinp,tbarthis community discussi...b.ut the Port T.wnsend Glib Curse and
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pubik sp—hduding--td..r—p,theater,ac.vered pavilion a ndwaikingpath, Mat M.untain View C.mm.ns. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the City Cb—d and planning
ne s existing neighb.rh..d th—gh the present goifr.urre hailing with Kai Thai team bar their c.nsideati.n. Thank y -u much bor taking the flme m send your th-ghts.
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1/19/2023 DIANE URBANI PTG.ib
It. -Id be ak great be -f! t tb the cam —ty—and the regi..—Ifthe go��c 7landis used Thank you s. much bar yourin tbb, this community discussi.nab— the Port Tb --d G.ib Curse and
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bb, h.using. lebs env— and realize a development with apartit_ts.a.nd.s with green space M.untain View C.mm.ns. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with Me Cty C.uncii and planning
and tails. a place where n.n —ithy families, c.upies andsingies an aff.rd t. live. The flme has team bb, their c—deah—Thank you m much bor taking the flme tb send y.urth.ughts.
me b.rthis. W e must n.t ding t. s—Ihingth, golf curse, hurt beause lbs been --d a
Tong tin e.l see a bright future in P. i.wnsend,but.niy If 1anety.b pe.ple an bi rid places t.
1/19/2023 Darrell Jones PT G.ib
Our prlorlry is affordablehousing.lthas,'talways been m, but the people wel nteactwlth can't Thank you s. much bar yourin tbb, this community discussi.nab— the Pb,T.wnsend G.ib Curse and
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aff.rdt.livehere in many cases. we ais.pri.ntRe.pen spacesand nature, but a golfcurse is M.untain View C.mm.ns. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with Me Cty C.uncii and planning
u'be, .b an.penspace. The better the golf curse, the I—t--Ues what we treasure. team bb,theirc—d—t—Thank yoummuch b.r2kingthe rime m send y.urth.ughts.
Wernemllze1-1 people ure it tar recreh-and are -1t. not s part it.
1/19/2023--k M..re PT G.ib
Many moreI,—,t.c.nsvder bb, .urcity, Petprbjel, are bunch Pieare leave this managed Thank you s. much bar yourin tbb, this community discussi.nab— the Port Tb --d G.ib Curse and
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area alone, Mb-- View C.mm.ns. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with Me Cty C.uncii and planning
bor king the flme tb send y— h.ughts.
team bor theirc—deah— Thank you mmuch ta
1/19/2023L c—Hardy PT G.ib
It'slmp--t thatwesupport and...... ge the local bosness.. that make IT whatlns. We Thank you s. much bar yourin -t bb, this community discussi.nab— the Port T.wnsend G.ib Curse and
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hear often that people who have grown op here and —k here—'t afford t. llvehere. We're M.untain View C.mm.ns. I have logged your --t, andwill share Memwith Me City C.uncii and planning
n.d that wages don't —, --te msr,eta lone the cost ofl,ving here. The golf nurse team b.rtheir c—deah—Thank you m much b.r2kingthe rime tb send y.urth.ughts.
s cefor the few thatse—to use it, butthatsh-Id,'t—y. pima, be a Cryprl-ty Housing
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1/19/2023 Linda Lubinski PT G.ib
Iw..11love m keep the green space and recreati.nai area.f a golf curse. Perhaps ifawaiking Thank you s. much bar yourin tbb, this community discussi.nab— the Port Tb --d G.ib Curse and
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pathway surrounding the area with rtbp,f.rex--grDt—.-Id be—DI m the heaith.f M.untain View C.mm.ns. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with Me Cty Cb—d and planning
this com—ty.lannot see anther ure bb, the low lands Mere. team bor theirc—deah—Thank y -much bor taking the flme m send y— h.ughts.
1/19/2023 Martha Ashenfeiter PT G.ib
My highertp-,ty is Mat the city has a swimming p..i similar t. the new.nein PbUAngdes. Thank you s. much bb, yourin tbb, this community discussi.nab— the Port Tb --d G.ib Curse and
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la p swimmingis available ail thetime�except dunngiess.ns.rwhen swimteam ispacTicing), Mb --View C-- Ihave logged yourc.mmentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Cb—d and planning
there iso large HDT TUB, area b.rchiidren, and much db— turechi.nne. M.ney spe,t.na team bar their —,—h— Thank y -much taking king the flme m send y.urth.ughts.
p..i w.uid take precedence.ver.ther ch -g—
1/19/2023 Margaret M—ghey PT G.ib
Iw.uid likemsee the PTglbc.urse c.nverted tb enable m. re ure by the com -ty. Bike the Thankyou s. much b.ryourin tf.rthiscommunity discussi.nab— the Pb,T.wnsend G.ib Curse and
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idea. ba redesigned goibcurse with waiking-0,that is accessibietb OL—I h.peth—he M.untain View C.mm.ns. Ihave l.ggedyourc.m-- and will share Mem with Me CtyC.—1 and planning
redesign—ld make the curse less.ba water hbg. We need t.c.nserve.ur wate, team bartheirc—deah—Thank y -u much bor taking the flme m send y—h.ughts.
1/19/2023 E— and Connie Mddyr Pi Goif
W, would like to see the golf course asa city pari: with walking paths and a playground .Thi, way Thank you so muchfit, ydurinpdt for this comm unity discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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it iso space for ail to,njdy. Mountain View Commons. Ihave togged your comment, and will share Mem with the City Council and planning
team for their cdnsideatidn. Thank you d much for taking the time m send your thoughts.
1/19/2023 thi, Phelan Pi Goif
Please retain the golf cdurse...l do not play golf but l like the idea Mat people who hav,piay,dThank you so much fit, yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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there for years are able td continue their playful a ,sty. It would be like takingaway a ski hili- I Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the City Council and planning
used td live near a ski hili in Canada and was blessed m have my h—fsport i,airz,d. team for their c-,,d,at,-. Thank ydd dmuch for taking the time m send your thought,.
1/19/2023 Pat M—H,, Pi Goif
I—,th, golf course alone.W, already have plenty df parks and green spaces. lawwhere Thank you sd much forydurinpdt for this community discussion about the Pi, Tdwn„rid Goif Cdd— and
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buiidinghduses there was beingdiscussed. Thereare plenty df open arastdbuiid. Ifydu decide Mountain View Commdns. Ihave logged ydurcdmments and will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
tdd,r[rdy the golf cdurse,th—,rid going back from that d,,,,, - .Nd, l' i, ndt a goiter. team fit, th,ir c-,,d,at,-. Thank ydd di,uch for to king the time td send ydurthdught,.
1/19/2023 Paul EISEN HAS DT Pi Goif
ME— tido way m acc—date a golf course and addadnai facilities. Snip th,pdia-ah-df Thank you sd much forydurinpdt for this community discussion about the Port Tdwn„rid Goif Cdd— and
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one firth, other Mountain View Common. I have logged your --t, and will share Memwith M, Ity Cdd—i and planning
team for their c-,,d,at,-. Thank you dmuch for taking the time m send ydurthdught,.
1/19/2023 Wayne Bleier Pi Goif
lam very much interestedin keepingthe land open as Green Space. There isdwindiinggreen Thank you sd much ft, ydurinpdt for this community discussion about the Pi, Tdwn„rid Goif Cdd— and
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space in Piano what remains nee ds m be preserved drei„we will tum int—q—, which we Mountain View Common. I have logged your com mems and will share Mem with M, Ity Cdd—i and planning
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nth,way.I would paf,rth,cdmmdn, built doth, existingMddhta-,—Site. Perhapsa team fdrth,ir c-,id,at,-. Thank ydd ddd,Rfdrtaking the time m send ydurthdught,.
tail around the golf course a, do the N E SIDE CAN BEEXPANDED SO ndn GOLFERS an use rt.
1/19/2023 Madd Md. Pi Goif
Please, please please turn the golf cdd land into a community green space withwaiking and Thank you sd much ft, ydurinpdt for this community discussion about the Port Tdwn„rid Goif Cdd— and
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bike palls, exerts, rnength tainingequipm en; playground and expandthe pameand wetland Mountain View Commdns. Ihave logged ydurcdmmentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
spaceif possible. Wedon'tneed to runamoneyloosinggolfmurse ihatservesafewhmilie, teamfdrth,irc-,id,at,-.Thank ydddmuck fdrtakingth, time m send ydurthdught,.
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ndrdinate amount df water, and wdrse,pdimndus weed killing pendchemiais.
Unfoarwnately, ”'"Ifcourse Isn't"" by dorcd ""ty and Is nota daw to coon.” either. A
beautiful pari: would enhance qualitydt lite fdrthd„ whd live here and for thd„ whd visit. Thank
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1/19/2023 Kathy Porter Pi Goif
There isvery littiefdrehiidren td fid in Pdrt Town„ rid and l feel they need td be M,fd—df our Thank you sd much forydurinpdt for this community discussion about the Port Tdwn„rid Goif Cdd— and
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a fin. Skating,swimming, Jump pari:, anything where they an get bdthindddr and outdoor Mountain View Common. I have logged your cum mems and wili,har,M,mwith M, I ty Cdd—i and planning
exe ,, and fun. Especially dncdidfali and winter ainy nights. Allot this needs td be affordable. team for their c-,id,at,-. Thank ydd dmuch for taking the time td send you,thought,.
1/19/2023 Yann ted Pi Goif
Keep as it i,. Or, rebuild as pari:, play ground. Thank you sd much fit, ydurinpdt for this community discussion about the Port Tdwn„rid Goif Cdd— and
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team for their cdn,ideatidn. Thank you dmuch for taking the time m send ydurthdught,.
1/19/2023 Alan R Terry and Linda'. Pi Goif
We would like td see the golf course land iepd,pd,edll Keep the little rertauant, keepth, Thank you sd much fit, ydurinpdt for this community discussion about the Pi, Townsend Goif Cdurse and
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land/gas,/tail"a,i," along San Juan Rd and around the duckpdnd but add —bench„.Keep Mountain View Common. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with M, Ity Cdd—i and planning
the driving ange a,weli. ADDa miniature golf cdurre for seniors, teens,fa mil. „and visitors td team for their cdn,ideatidn. Thank ydd d much for taking the time m send y— hdught,.
theara...FUNi N, Ptidwnsend iconsat each hale(ie, the pdrtdffl ce, the cdurthdure,the
libary, a terry that,,,ydu get the idea) Of course charge a feefdr this. Chdd,e same of the land td
offer spaces to,a tiny home community ( the 400sq fthome, with bed—, bath, kitchen, living,
dining pdah...dn fdundatidn,land,caping ) NOT the little homeless shelter kind, Fdik, buy a tiny
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lot td put their hod,—, Ai,d add a doggie pari: area tar play with frisbee,, ball, etc. And the vert
s a pari with tables/benches/ BBQ's and swings/slides/etc.....(sdrta like Chetzemdka
has)Designated Bike tail, could be added here and there tdd. So tun tar EVERYONE. Shddid be
handy apped accessible. Thank, tar all your woIk do this. It the pool gets mdvedth,a...dk OR
keep the pool where itis but upgraded and then build an -,I—d brfdgeped,rtrian/bike
walkway OVER Biain, m the pari: a, d,—,bed....000Li Thank you fdrydd, wo,b do Mi, and
reaching ddt td the community tar input.
1/19/2023 neve baker Pi Goif
in favor df keeping th, golf course an open space ---tally fd—edpr„e—and Thank you sd much to, ydurinpdt to, thi,communitydiscussion about the Port Townsend Goif Cdurse and
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pari:. it should ht,l—the ecdidgiaifeat—, while increa,ingpiantingand incdrpdatingan Mountain View Common. Ihave idggedydd-dd,-- and will share Mem wahthe Gty Council and planning
agrictuituai componentwith orchard, food tares[ -a longplan fifth, community andthecity.- team fdrth,ir cd—de,k,dn. Thank you dmuchfdrtakingth,timem Bendy—th-ght,.
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alsoin favor df keeping golf cdurre elements. ideally ifthat was the a,e — df th, land could
be used tar mixed—cd—typ,djel,hke thd,ementioned above. it should by no mean, be
developed away from dp,n,pac, and ,cdidgiai ryrt —
1/19/2023 Sean PF Goif
leave the golf courseas it is. Tho nk you so m uch for your input for this comm unity discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the t— m send your thoughts.
1/19/20231nis Venarchick PF Goif
leave the golf course as itc--fly ,, Fix what needs H—g. Promote Iasa place tovisit, shop, Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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-y and golf at a beaut,I course in the heart of town. Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the Qty Council and planning
team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the t— m send your thoughts.
1/19/2023 Deboah Winter PF Goif
I do not favor development of the golf c,—, Iain nota goiter, but l Mink that op enspaceis Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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-,—t. And once It s built u ,Its gone forever. Surely there are otherspots that — be Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the Qty Council and planning
used for housing which l knowisneeded) without taking away th--ity, team for theirc—d—t—Thank you.m much for to king the t— m send your thoughts.
1/19/2023 George Heinz PF Goif
Goif asa recreational activity has been in ded,i:for21 years. For the few oidergoifers Mat still Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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enjoy golf_ easily go to port Wdiow the a ctuai num IS, of pe Ilhat could use this space for Mountain View Commons. I have logged your com mems and will share Mem with the Qty Council and planning
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deadesin the future far outweighs the deciiningfewac[uai players. Preserving andr w—I, this team fortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch forty k]ngthe nmem send yourthoughts.
space Is oar own Iltfle " Central" park for all t enjoy.
1/19/2023 Don Eh -busk, PF Goif
would s,pp,,t ,y way to allow access to this community owned parcel too greatemumber of Thank you so much for yourinput for thiscommunity discussion a bout the Port Townsend Goif Course and
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people, not just goIters.ld-t object W golf, It s j -that it appears thatthere aren't enough Mountain View Commons. I have logged your com mems and will share Mem with Me Qty Council and planning
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goiters to justify m ono Il—g this tremendous community a net. team for theirc—d—t—Thank you.m much for to king the t— m send yourthoughts.
1/19/20231ili— giant PF Goif
the golf course should not be—,,fi ced to unknown pians the wellness center-rf built -an be Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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placed - them -amain view is ,Haveavote by the people. present the a ctuai facts to the Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the Qty Council and planning
community& then abide by itswiii, the people will have spoken. team for theirc—d—t—Thank you.m much for to king the t— m send your thoughts.
1/19/2023 Shawn Swartwood Pi Goif
Ido not want to see the gold course W be continued. Itshouid be uredina waythat anbeneHt Thankyou so much foryourinput forthiscommunity discussion about the Portiownsend Goif Course and
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many more people. For example. panic area, a full size discgoifcourse, volleyball, bochi bail. It Mountain View Commons. I have logged your com mems and will share Mem with Me Qty Council and planning
an hold a lot of different things. A golf course is a waste of space. team for theirc—d—t—Thank you.m much for to king the t— m send yourthoughts.
1/19/2023 Robert DeWeese PF Goif
In—, of SAVI NG TH E GOLF COURSE AS IT IS. Green space loris gone forever. Climate change Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Courseand
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has aused -gbird loss is in Mebiil—, and the golf course pond fairways/roughs Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Memwith Me Qty Council and planning
in�aluabieresouaesthat are not dupilcated at Kah Tai. J ust for bird habitat alonert should team tortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch forty k]ngthe nmem send yourthoughts.
b--d-dirturbed. This is an aging community. The likelihood that mare seniors will take up,
to,goIfasa way of kee fi tis high. It is vi tally im portant to have a com —ty-
nt d,low-cortfor them. Yes Mere are other courres nearby, but P-
-1—, diowx very expensive, and Chevy Chase/Discovery say is, in my experience, very—eliabie-
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often poorly maintained, with poor damage. Our course has damage problems in oniyone area,
easy —bed around. Finally, this iso golf course with a wonderful legs of support foryoung
people -dgoif teams. Dick Hausmann, who recently passed away, wa s famously generous to
kids(my oidert son md—d) who couldn't afford green tees. Dick and inn PM putthoumnds and
thoumnds of unpaid hours mto keeping the course maintained. eeforethem, Jae Welch was
likewise -p-,- young goiters and neophytes. This legs has a value to the community that
supersedes mere economics. itis part of whatmakes out town a true community.
1/19/2023 Carol Hardy PF Goif
A parkll l W benches for aids talks to sit and listen to the frogs. Perhaps a j—eg--part.A Thank you so much for your input for this communitydiscussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
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few p—, tables a shelter like at ---k, Paths for walking apiayground area for the young Mountain View Commons. I have logged your com m"ts and will share Mem with Me Qty Council and PI—mg
talks. A parkll II Please team for theirc—d—t— Thank you mmuch for to king the t— m send yourthoughts.
1/20/2023 Marcia Van Cleve PT Goif I think the Port Townsend Goif Course 11 Illy imp --part of moi-tai-bnganenvvonmentai Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
Online positive recreation area tori-dividuai, to meet and i -tact. I value this spaceasa non-
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developed space that -p-, us ---hg natuai,urrou-dings for people m e-joy.l love
team for theirc—d—t— Thank you, —h forty king the time m send your thoughts,
watchingindtviduais play golf as they i -tact with the goifrourm. Having gree n,pacesin our
community isi ipo-Mand necessary for keeping abalanc, with the natuai environment and
unity development. The Mountain View Commons i, also a special place Mat supports
ac rvi es foaomm unity m embers to inteac[.I have used that loatbo-dun-g the part years
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It I early days within the PTSD 450,—hi,g classroom to support a 4H club—,sty onangular
basis and supporting students l7—hi, to swim at the community pool. Aiithese activities helped
c[ children and youth to activities that inspired th,mand helped them learn W be part
ata team. lets keep this area also an asset to h.ipco--,ct members of aur community at ail
different a g.,. Thanks for your support to keep these places viable i- today's world.
1/20/2023 Wanda Synnestvedt PT Goif I think the golf course should stay ass golf courm.
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share them with M, Cty Council and planning
team fortheir co—d—t,-. Thank you m much forty king the time to send yourthought,
1/20/20238arbaa—, PT Goif I'ma Port— .... d resdentwho'd like ,see the golf nurse made nm a pdbl,, 911111,11 Thankyou so m uch foryourinput forthis community discussion aboutthe Port Townsend Goif Course and
Online thatrerves the pubilcina broader way Man a golf course does. The natbv.pam.might be Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Mem with the Cty Council and planning
expanded,gas, could be changed over to greenery Mat requires less wateI,-area fora team fortheirc—d—t— Thank you m m uch fortakbngth, time m send yourthoughts.
Chll dren's playground established, etc
1/20/2023 Richard Ackley PT Goif Pleasekeep the golf course as It --1 The Port Townm-d Goif Course, the -Ii (dry) Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community ib—,— about the Port Town send Goif Course and
Onibne nth, area. The turf M Discovery eay a rid Port ludiowbsv..y wet in the winter Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Memwith M, Cty Cou-dand planning
making golf a m uddy experience. Port Townsend i, piayabiey.ar round. Ju,t water the greens team for theirc—d—t— Thank you m m uch for to king the time m send yourthoughts.
and t b—, and let the fairways go dormant i- the summer.
1/20/202311 Dean PT Goif Thegoif course iso marvelous amenity Matis short enough to be a wonderful way foryou-g
Onibne g.If,,, take up the gameand retireesto go outand play ii holes without kill,-gth,m,I—
Mart golf courses are designed by professional golfers who hit the ball along way and rt-ght.
learners a rid oldsters do neither High cc i,anoth,r facmrthati--,, a rid oidn.rs a r.
med about So, what the PT Goif Course provides iso handy .con—M blht— With ail
thorn advantages, what i, the ream -it i, no ... -with bus-, ? l am not a golf business
expert butbelievethere are such people out Mere. Myob.... a— , the successful muni
tour es have activities virtually every day for ailang., of ages a rid skill leveis. They have
reasonably mairrcained fairways, bunkers and gree-,, not prinln., just OK. A pro shop also on a
noble basis along with cresta uant m get mm. r.ireshm.-t m take along and a co -v, -bent
place to sit andhav, a libation while tallying up scares and dbviing out meager winnings. This
would beth,
"ideal nate". The current owners b - .ail his. Their qu.rtion, and-- i, haw to
get from where weave to this ideal state. Thi, i, where same outside, expert advice should be
engaged,beaure ail of us loafs have obviously not found a way to do t
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share themwith M, Cty Councbi and planning
team fortheir c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the time m send yourthoughts.
1/20/2023 Carol Gave. PT Goif lam an eiders di,feeiso,tro-giy that the golf tour, does not serve our community.Th.r. are Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
Onion. many possible uses for that property that would providerervices, cr.atbv..-gag.m.-t, Mau -tail View Comm,-,. I have logged your comm. -,and will share Mem with M, Cty Cou-dand planning
affordable hods ands, much m,,,Please.spand youreff,,, E,'t.n to others who don't team fortheirc—d—t_ Thank you m m uch for taking the time t, send yourthoughts.
shout, but who have well thought out ideas for that space.
1/20/2023 Harry th-1 PT Goif Its important to expand the u. age of the golf course to servelarger needs of th,community. Thankyou so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Onion. Servi-gorily the needs of the goif!ng com,unity i, ib--haw,agai-stth, needs of disabled, Mau -talo View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Memwith the Cty Cou-cbi and planning
elderly people, children etc. team fortheir co-,bd.atbo-. Thank you m much fortakbngth, time m send yourthoughts.
1/20/2023 Susan A-d.rso- PT GoifIwouid prefer that the golf course be put m other um. Tails and affordable hou,b-gwouid be my Tho nk you so m uch for yourinput for this comm unity discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Onion. pr......... don't think the mstof maintai ping the golf nurse iD tf, ed,.sp.dally Mau -talo View Comoro-,. Ihay.logg.dyourcomm.-, and will share Memwith M, Cty Cou-dand planning
co-,bd.ri-ghow few people actually use t. team fortheir consideation. Thank you m much forts kbngthe time m send yourthoughts.
1/20/2023 MRha.i Wiegers PT GoifIwodld liket,,, the golf nurse renal n a green space—free from d.v.lopm.n(bdllding, a rid Thankyou so much foryourinput forthis,ommunity ib—,— about the Port Town send Golf Courseand
Onion. h— g. ldally a' wilding"prof ea would be entertained, w lth anaarompanying Mau -talo View Comoro-,. I have logged your --t, and will share Memwith M, Cty Cou-dand planning
rmgnition/.ddc— that the land cannot trdly be returned too "na0vesta re". There'san team fortheirc—d—t— Thank you m m uch fortakbngth, time m send yourthoughts.
escellentt.aching opportuniry—in land stewardship —to be had for the mmmdnity
1/20/20231 aures geyer PF Golf
I would rely heavily on the purpose it wa e donated in the H rst pure. Wasn't it to be a
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goifrourre/green space? For sure keep the little --t of camas that i, left. The waterumge is
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the City Council and planning
an issue. maybe let the gas, go dormant and be mtisli ed with Matl
team for their consid—t—Thank you.m much for to king the time m send your thoughts.
1/20/2023 jim PF Golf
mixed are not .$loosing golf course
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comment, and will share Mem with the City Council and planning
team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the time m send your thought,.
1/20/2023 Penny fidderb—I, PF Golf
Im nota goIter, but would like rose. Me golf course property remain a golf course.
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team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the time m send your thought,.
1/20/2023 Kari Jacobsen PF Golf
Id - t undemand why the City of Port Townrend is even cons --g any aitematrveure for the
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golf courre. The golf course pro-,a,maii revenue income for the c,ty,Why stop that revenue
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the City Council and planning
and change it to a piece of land Mat will require expensivemaintenance and produce no
team for their consid—t—Thank yo —I, for to king the time mend your thought,.
m..... around the city, what revenue do the dogpark,, k,bail court,, skateboard pari:,
tc. bringing The an,weri, $OE.OD. Thearg—M the golf course ores th--d, of dollars of
-- ea ch yearis questionaN-, I recall there i, or was a well on the golf course propertym
supply mairrcenancewater to the golf c --Th, golf course provides a place tar", non -
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poll mgoutdoora—,tyfor ma nyof the City a nd County citizens. There are 111..1 civic
andchantabie events held at the golf courre every yearthat wise funds forvanous auresthrough
out the City and County. The golf course provides a near by place tar aur high school goVF team to
__' and hold matches. It the City management i, looking f__ "open space" why don't
they clean up that me„at Kai Ti,,, Kia iia i,a great area ifit were cleaned up and maintained. The
golf courre i, I—dy a well maintained "op ... p— in the city that provide, positive income tar
the city. PLEASE KEEP TH E GOLF COURSE AS A GOLF COURSE!
1/20/2023 Dorothy Stengel PF Golf
would like m see the Golf Course,pace left., open a, possible, but with more
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pubilaccessibility. l like the pain, section and wonder whether there might be a way m
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Memwith Me Gty Council and planning
eith... —ndthisand open more space for publicly accessible lawn game,and/or tails
.am for theirc—d—t—Thank you.m much ta
for king the time mend yourthought,.
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Probably Jefferson Land Ti-, Admiaity Audubon, Master Gardeners/Native PI—Society, Public
Schools and Pari:, & R.c have already joined this "and I'dbe interested I....ming
support the affordable housing unit, (hopingthey are truly affordable) currently
undeaonrnuction, but would not like to see this space used tar....t—t-
1/20/2023 Patrick Sullivan PF Golf
R.gardingthefuture of the golf courre, with so many people tai king a bout "adds pari land-
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please remem ber thataIm- it of the city pari:, a re bated from the goifrourre toward the
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your com merit, and Mi share Memwith the Gty Councii and planning
ere downtown pari:, and pari:l-,, Chl,—ka,Sather, BobbyMCGarzaugh, Kah Tai, the dog
team for their consideation. Thank y - ,much for taking the time m send yourthought,.
pari:, et,... plus stat. -awned Fart W Orden). Meanwhile more housing d—iopm.nti, comingW
the city's south/muthwert—edge Evan,Vista and the propored hundreds of housing units off
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Rainier and Discovery ft families Mineed pari:, on that end of town. City pari: staff is
already—tchedthm ane employee m m ow it ail. Adding mo re high+naint.nance parkland in
the part .frown already fl u,h with pari:, and tail, only does a disservice m the current and
futureresident, of the section of town ai— barren of city awned pari:, and playground,.
1/20/2023 Elizabeth PF Golf
St--thecity i, not gemngthe response it want, regarding the golf co�—E,que,t Next Door W
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send out an appeal.Sound, like a repeat of the St —M— City Councii ignores the desire, of
M .amain View Com m ons. I have logged your com mentsand Mishare Mem with Me Gty Councii and planning
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the cimens. Keep the golf course.
team for their consid—t— Thank yoummuch for ti, mg the time m,endyourthought,.
1/20/2023 Jane F—khi PF Gbit
Gbif i, a dangerous game for -y., a fl ying golf bail. I was ha b—fly the eye Thank you so —h for y.urin t for this community discussion about the Port Town send Gbit Course and
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byafa I,O while crossing the playground in 5th gads, at Kenm,reelementary. If l hadn't been Mountain View Common,. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the Qty Cbuncil and planning
my.pi'ailywearing thick glasses, which blocked the fuiif,ae,f, the blow, l may well have team for their'—deah—Thank you.m m uch for taking the t— m send your thoughts.
im paired vision i, that eye. Even If the goiters string netting around their 9 hole course, s—Id
their bails",h„mght up, int, the air, ,and came dawn hard who knows where" a pedertrian
might be ha.— the goiters then held reap,,„bis? ee„de,im m—t danger t, n,n�.II the
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gth __' wastes water, aur m,rtpreci,us natuai res,uae, and it sequesters orbs, dioxide in
the gals, which is mowed by p,Hhtmg machines. The gas, has perticidesin it, bad for the health
,tail. What are we, a t—w fKaren, and Charlie,, with ouri.ve f,r,h„ting angel,-rulesf,r
ur dogs, m "Triple expensive toys and diesel vehicle,, and n, ',,cern for the lessf,rtunate? It
the need t, play golf overwhelm,, Mara lag. i, the place t, g..
1/20/2023 Kenneth e. PF Gbitlam
ata to„a,t, why the city i„pending flme and money around the g.ifc,urrequest„n. Why Thank you s, much f,ry.urinput f,r th„"mmunity d,s'us,,,nab,ut the Port Townsend Gbit Course and
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hirea new pa rk, person that i, charged with pushing Mi,through? Whyhire a n expensive Mountain View Common,. I have logged your--t, and will share Mem with the Qty Cbuncil and planning
nsuitant thatis charged with shaping the pro's„ m get the —0-1h, city want,?Another team f,rthe,r”n„d---Thank you.m m uch for taking the t— tend your thought,.
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Sims Way l The city I—, are what the pe,pie w ht.The mayor a rid c,tyc,—d i, just like
Trump, keep pu,hingy.ur agenda, keep telling lies and eventually wertupid citizens will accept
1/20/2023 David V Gainger PF Gbit
your will.
Ith,nk thm It w,uid be ave,y bad idea change the golf',arse int, something else. Thank you s, much f,ry.urinput f,rth, community d,s'us,,,nab,ut the Port Townsend Gbit Course and
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Mountain View Common,. I have logged your comment, and will share Mem with Me Cty Co— I and planning
team for their'—deah—Thank you o m uch for taking the t— ms end y.urthought,
1/20/2023 Fann, Natal, PF Gbit
I do not play guifand have n, pe,iht,,e,t in th, pat. However, l know,eveaipe,pie who Thank you s, much f,ry.urinput f,rth, community d,s'us,,,nab,ut the Port Townsend Gbit Course and
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have play ed the local course regularly far o, much a, 40 years. I w,uid hater, ee that Mountain View Common,. I have logged yb,,— ent, and wiii,hare Memw,th Me Cty Co—d and planning
op—ty taken a way from them, particularly a,iti, probably helping t,keep them healthy. team f,rthe,rc—deat—Thank y.umm uch for taking the rime t, send y.urthought,.
My vote i, t, keep the gulf ',arse a, it i,.
1/20/2023 Jeanie Gia,peP PF Gbit
Please make th, open space serve the needs of many pe,pie. Currently, it i, not safe t,waik on Thank you s, much f,ry.urinput f,rth„"mmunity d,s'us,,,nab,ut the Port Townsend Gbit Course and
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the g.if"urse, and in fact, walkers are told togetoff by g.it c, ursemaintenance—kers.l M.amain View C,mm,ns. I have logged your com merit, and will share Mem with Me Cty Cunni and planning
w,uid love to—th„ la rgeproperty serve the needs of manywhile stili remainingan ,pen green team f,r their c,—deah—Thank y- omuch for tak,ng the t— ms end y.urthought,.
space. P„i, okay, and same pa rkmg I believe thereare,ther place, t, put hauling. I w,uid not
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wam the space t, get eaten up by onebu,iding and Men another and the required parking for
eras different venue, thatdaw large groups, such a,a performing a rt, center. I think we an
for that. for ose spaces. P,kiebah, okay, but
rely,, Fort W,rde,ad privately awned venues M
not "vend,permanent wickets tar badminton, frisbee, other sport, played on gas,.
1/20/2023 Parona Quyle PF Gbit
Keep the g.if"ursea golf--el Iti,one,f the few places where an activity an beenj,yed by Thanky.us, much f,ry.urinput f,rth„"mmunity d,s'us,,,nab,ut the Port Townsend Gbit Course and
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ail age,,va,,hgsk,h levels, men and w,menjb,y,and girl,), and at a to_'t. In addtt„n, the Mountain View Common,. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the Qty Co—d and planning
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golfc,urre rervesasa natuai pre,erve. Many, —, of bird,,mammai,, insectsandrept,lesfi team farthest,—deah—Thank y-omuch fortak,ngthe t— ms end your thought,.
ndanatuaihabi2ton the g.it'—e. The Qty of P, Townsend provides numerous walking
tail, and pari:, throughout aur ne,ghb,rh„d,,butth,,e i, only ane golf c,urre.
1/20/2023 SheIIy Cad— PF Gbit
I.-Idl,ket. see the g.ifc,—ebe— as pace that an be used by ail c,mmunirymembers Thank you s,mu'hf,ry.urinput f,rth„"mmunity d,s'us,,,nab,ut the Port Townsend Gbit Course and
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,t just those that a n aff,rd t, play golf It—ld betaroe public pari: w,thwaik,ng tail, perhaps Mountain View Common,. Iha- logged your--t, and will share Mem with the Qty Co—d and planning
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a9h,leg.ifc,—e—ld remainbut Mere i,--;'n m u,ethe entire area for golf only. A team f,rthe,rc—deah—Thank y.u.mmu'hf,r to k,ng the rime m send your thought,.
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l, area could be used tar community garden andgreen houses.
1/20/2023 Carole G—ett PF Gbit
Asamember of Mi,—unity, I, p- restoring amajority of the property t, Thank y.us,mu'hf,ry.urinput f,rth„"mmunity d,s'us,,,nab,ut the Port Townsend Gbit Course and
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uai/native habitat of f,ren, p,a eand wetland,,, longer requi,hgc,p,—ghahhhe, of Mountain View Common,. Iha-logged your--t, and will share Mem with Me Cty Co—d and planning
fertilizer and pestdes. An ong.,ngv.lunteer eff,rt"uid beured t, Mi, end. Tails eam f,rthe,rc—deat—Thank y.u.o—hf,r tak,ng the t— ms end y.urthought,
and iand
nterpretive area, w,uid be a huge a,,,. W iidiffe habitatw,uid be improved a, well. Other
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part—, fthe property "aid have community garden ail,tment,, p—,,ground,, play area, for
children, play fi eid,, fe, ,vai,, etc. Repurposing e-hhgbu,idings and the parking lot "aid
—,date —unity gathering,, edu'at„nai,pa'e,, and the fanners —ket. I believe that
'hang„gthe current"se at Mi„pen space will e,,e a wider and la rger p, Iat—of talk,.
1/20/2023 Sander Stowell
PF Gbit This i, input about Meinformation links on the Engage PF web page for the Gbit Cb—,.In
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Online discussion on N-D., and face W face with trends, there many quertions aboutthe current golf
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courseand perhaps some m i,information. There has not been a good easy m-nders2ndm
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am fortheirc—deah—Thank you, h for to king the t— m send your thoughts.
summary reporta�ailabie. Naw same ofthe information previously provided i, missing. the water
-age report has beendeleted, and the link wthe ti nanciai analysis is broken so that is
I have been told at the published reports tar golf tour, ge are known be
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low, and Mat there are mare plMayers than reported. This latter rte, -- the q-ernbn
bfacc-a, bf reporting per the lease agreement with the Qty. In orders have more informed
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opinion, ,wing forward, we wbuid ail beneti t frbmciear actuate intbrmah— Hbw many
unique in dtvid-al, use the golf course. Haw many rounds are played daily,maybe as an avenge
by ,both, Are there times bf the year that the course is e,p,,,allyund,, htd—dl Who much
Qty wateris used tb irrigate the courseI Is there a prod-ctrve well, and f sohbw much water
does that supply Haw much rent has Me c-rrenttenant paid annually over the par[ 5-10 years
AH bf this should be pubilc information when a tenant rents City property. Please ti rid away W
prerent this information act-ately and clearly in ane place.
1/20/2023 James Felt
PF Gbit Although the Port Townsend golf c,—,, a beautiful part bf town and very convenientforioai
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ne,ghborswho ore bur golf course, Ithinkit wbuid be betterused am recreation center for
am for their consideah—Thank you, much forty kingthe rime m send yourthbught,.
walking, running and other forms bf exertse and relaxation mbe used by a larger proportion bf
aur population. Additionally, there are 13 hale pff—rses relatively nearby.
1/20/2023 Patti Ners
PF Gbit Sincethe pool nom piexneed, m be replaced and the golf course could serve more bfthe
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n ng area,po„ibiy tim e share needs m be considered. Can the goifcourse be available/been
am for their consideah—Thank you, m uch for taking the t— m send your thoughts.
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during certain day and hours and others an be in the ---rib golf balls are being NO It It,
I think PF has tb takeiota c.,,d,at,. howmany talks use the golf course, prbfl tability iota
account A �om ,unity pari: szaflb -ld be —h less-pens—m bpeate.
1/20/2023 Kris D,Wee,e
PF Gbit hope that the city will keep the golf course a,itis. We' re entering a perbd bflncrea,ingiy
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grbwingfood,brf,,anten,ivepianting bf native plants and trees--am bur native pollinators,
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br for other usesthat we annot naw anticipate. The goifcourse has always been a frea,ured
because rt'sa large, lovely green open spa—hd pubilc golf course with affordable tees
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ght m the hart bf bur comm-mty. Piea,eleave rt alone.
1/20/2023 Sherry Modrbw
PF Gbit The Of course hoid,v,tai green space that will be needed m bre than ever as thepopulation
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Ifa—tail, and some open space Mat cbuid—. alongside a continued, smaller goifarea.
to am for their consideation. Thank you, much for2kingthe rime t, send yburthbught,.
Fencing cbuid protect people tram golf balls. A,it i,, goiters walk the prbpeny—h— signifl ant
danger, lets expand use m mare people. Thank you for making this a prates, bf community
Ing.
1/20/2023 Connie King
PF GbitIw-Id like the golf course t, remain a, golf course or bpen green space for ail W enjoy,nb
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1/20/2023 Richard Rbwiand
PF Gbit I wbuid like the city m keep the golf course.
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1/20/2023 Patrcia Roche
PF Gbit Would love roses the golf course tamed into a —e habitat that cbuid be-,edby
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alternative-„ thatwouid not require a, much waterrig and mowing a, agoif course. Allowing
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us ordinary talk, tb roam abbot bn tail,, enjoying natuai fl baa rid fauna wbuid be great A
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t unity garden, -td— ed-cation events, -pa rid the Kahiai P,a e, Iprefer keepingit bpen
rehabitat over adding buildings. The city ha-h,, properties that cbuid be turned iota
housing-plea, do n't desnby this bpen a— My err has been hit by golf ball, twice driving- F
St. by Cbilm—d fano, snot having that happen again wbuid be wondertui.
1/20/2023 Gabrielle to Roche PT GoIf
Asa—year,—g.1fi ng resident of Port Townsend, I view the golf course as a n op ens pace
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rise and would bein favor of retaining it osis with its current use. Imaddrtion togoifi ng it
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lanningpports
p p-,ground water recharge a and functions as a wildlife corzfdor. Thamksfor asking.
team for theirc—d—t—Thank y -u much for to king the time m send your thoughts.
1/20/20231ymm R Segieau PT Goif
Ibelieve the community would be well served by eliminating the golf courre and.ettlmgup an
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outdoor space that would be accessibieand useful for the entire city. A, ti--, the golf course
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sere. few people amdac[i1 exclude.non g.1fers from u—gth, space. Waikimgpaths, play
team fortheirc—d—t—Thank you.m—I, for to king the time m send your thought,
ground space, .portl fi lids,picnic areas and areas to rest and enjoyth, outdoors would enable
much mare of the populace of Port Townsend W enjoy th,area currently.
urrently taken up by the
underutilized golf course.
1/20/2023 Enc D,Wee.e PT GoIf
There may not be 100', of kids who grow up playing that golf nurse every day, but It— 5or 10
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whose live1 were forever changed by that opportunity. It would be szd iffuture geneations no
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longer had that potentai. Enc D-1111, PTHS 11111ty golf team1981-1984, PGA of America
team for theirc—d—t—Thank y -u much for to king the time mend your thought..
(re red).
1/20/2023 Tom Thiersch PT Goif
Goif coursesare among the worst polluters beaus, of Meir extensive use of
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fertiAzers,herbicides,fungicides, and insecticides. Ail of those affect Me water quality of McSalish
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Sea and there by affect loci si iifi sh,etc. That should be reason enough to neveragain use that
team for theirc—d—t— Thank you m m uch for to king the time m send yourthought..
space tar such amenvtronmentaily damaging activity.
1/20/2023 Neimn Atkim PT Goif
Although walking tail. an be added, the golf course should be retained
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Mountain View Commons. I have logged your commenti, and will share themwith M, Gty Council and planning
team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the time m send yourthought,
1/20/2023 Stephen Yate, PT Goif
lam in fawrof otheruse'forth, golf course. Itis underutilized and could be amexceilentpark
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with numerous other functions. The pane area should be preserve d. Other golf courses in the
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area are suffl tient for loci golfers.
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1/20/202380BJACKSON PT Goif
Regarding the golf courre. The City golf ......seem. to be an open space in search ofu.ers. lam
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to golfer, but ravel the road. ad�acentto the courre seveai daysperweek at vanoustimesof
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day. Seldom dolree more Man on,ortwo p-pl—tbailypiayinggoitl It is far m ore Akely to.ee
team for their.—d—t— Thank you m m uch for to king the time mend yourthought..
dog walkers or bird watchers on the property;although I expect dog walkers do so attheir (and
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their pooches)peril.Being.—I,by—H hit golf ball iso serious danger. have no issu e with
pre-- g open space for multiple users, or.im ply a. I,—,'pa". My omection isW
comm C mg re'-- (fertilizer, weed suppressants, fuel amdmaintena mce wort: and copious
amounts of water) W support am -de—ed activity.
1/20/2023 John GMPT Goif
I would like the golf cause m be turned intoa public pari,
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team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the time m send yourthought,
1/20/2023 Carolyn Denton PT Goif
Iwouid like t' seea new city Recreation Center with an ice indoor pool, and possibiypickiebaii
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and tennis court,.There. of the property could be u. ed furan ---Pi- o' kept asa
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pari:.
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1/20/2023 Debb1 Vam.elow
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team for their co—deat—. Thank you m much for taking the time m send yourthought,
Part Townsend is e Illy city with many perks surrounded by water —the ultimate open space
Even though the golf co not heavily used for unds of golf, d is sed by a plemora of Thankyuu so —d tkry—input torture ou n ity mscusemn about the PkH Town send Guit Course and
wildlife. If the space was developed, the deer problem Upmwn would become even more Mountain View Commove. I have logged yourcomments and will share Mem with Me City Council and planning
problematic With the aggressive develop—i IhiI the city limits, it would be humble to lose atoreir —ed—d— Thank you m m uch fk—lengthe nine m send yourthoughts,
this open space in the middle of town. Once it is gone, we can never get it bacl. l drive by there tom
often and it gives me a sense of peace seeing the trees and the grass and makes me glad I
bought a house in Port Townsend and got away from Sea[tie. I do golf there on occasion when I
have guests in town but what is mast important to me is seeing the wide open space_ It makes
unbearably said to see trees mowed dwvn and mare concrete engulfing such a beautitul
a. The development in the North Beach area and the loss of trees is sickening. To lose the
golf course would be another her, ble event Please focus your energies an taking care of the
existing infrashucture of the twvn —roads, sidewallg bike pairsandlet the golf course stay
green spam. Maybe we cold add some HIT ,Iki,g paths ora disc golf option and have thon
ailaa, one or two days aweekif we vv ant to increase use. Buteventheparkswehavenow—
Fort Wander, fairgrounds, Chelzomouka shearenever crewded even in the height of summer
W e arespending a bunch of time, energy and money to change the purpose of something Nat
does atneed to be changed_
1/20/2023 Penny Jame,
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With all theacreage, we an have both. Starting with a 9hold par 3 course, tak,ngless space. Mountain View Commove. I have logged your com menti, and will share Mem with Me City Council and planning
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Aquatic center on the other part of property. This may sound like a lot but ourtown should have team for their consideation. Thank you m —d for taking the nine m send your thoughts.
both. We mind do a bond levy. Please vote for both. We'rew Th It
1/26/2023 Nerreca
January 2 Nlne&Nlne(k-ball, Scamble)/Feb 18& 19A ... d Bud ught"ArNCOpen"/March Thankyuu so m uchforyourinputforthi,c—u ity di,cu„ion aboutthe Portiown,e.d Golf Cour,eand
18 St Paddy', Day Tourney/March 25 Rhody Fe,tival Float Unve11119&9 hole tou11ey/Aprll8 Mountain View Commove. I have logged your --ti, and will share Mem with Me City Council and planning
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The Masters Blind D—Apol22 Spring Su—ble May 6 Players Club Scramble May 13 J im team tortheir coned—tion. Thank you m —d fk—lengthe rime m send yourthought,.
Caldwell Pre -tourney 9 hale May 20 & 21 Rhody Fert Jim Caldwell Memorial (Sat 9 hki,, Sun. 18)
June 10 High School Alumni (tar Rivals sport, progam)
1/20/2023 Carolyn Denton PT Goff
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ouldlike to see w city Receation C,nterwitha cindoor pool, and pe,siblypickleball Mountain View Commove. I have logged yourcommentsand will share Mem with Me City Council and planning
and fermis courts The rest of the property could b, used for an ap,h,e,tcmplex or kept as a team for their coned—tion. Thank you m —d for taking the nine m send your thoughts.
park.
1/20/2023 Inn Bernstein PT Goff
agree with the case mad, by Gabe Van Delyveld in the Jan_ 1 lth issue oftheJeffeew County Thankyuu so m uch foryour input forth,, community discussion about the Port Town send Golf Course and
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Leader in at ine golf course is a poor use of our public land And, likeGabe, l also believe there Mountain View Commove. I have logged yourcomments and will share Mem with Me City Counnl and planning
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n ears to be amore "inclusive,equitable, and,nvironm,nfaIlyrespon Uoplan"forth, use of am tortheir coneeead— Thank you m m uch fk—lengthe nine m send yourthoughts.
these 58 acres of public land Perhaps samem'nbi nafian of afterdeble housing and park l and, to
planted with native plant
1/20/2023 Cynthia Mummn PTGiaf
Leave the gait coealone _A, d In se l wasn't clearough_The open greenspecethet is the ThankYou somuch foryourtnput forthiscommunity discussionabout the Portiownsend Golf Courseand
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Port Townsend Got Courseneeds toarema as open spa„_ Do notdevlop this property- Mountain View Commune. I have lugged your --ti, Mem with Me Gty Counnl and planning
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Upgrade the golf course if necessary, but do not add anything tothe Golf Course_ team tortheir —ed—d— Tri- m m uch forta king the nine m send yourthoughts.
1/20/2023 David D Hemngton PT Goff
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a,thterested in changing the golf course into amore diverse health/aquatiscenter lts„ms Mountain View Commove. Ihave logged yourcommentsand will share Mem with h,Gty Counnlandplanning
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unfeirand unrealisi c th of n this day and age we lim it such a be a LH In andcreative space to only tamfortheir consideation.Thank hforta kin henmem send hou hts.
entity, gait We can offer compromise by changing the galfcaurse to a 6 hale golf course and e you m muc gt yourt g
sing the land along 19th as a cm,runityaquatisheaith/recreat oncenter We don't need a 9
hale golf course in the confer of fawn that is used by a small group afpeSee Let work tog,hter to
make a mare total community contend use of this land_
1/20/2023 Valerie Hemngton PT Goff
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Make the golf course a 6 hole that allows room for a c—unity aquatic/ health centenhat beiteam for their- Thank you m m uch for taking the rime m send yourthoughts.
is everyone. ICs a Win Winl
1/20/2020 Rh PT Goff
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If the course will b, repurposad, make sure it has new activities for all ages Dog park,bike pump Mountain View Commove. I have logged your comments and will share Mem with Me City Counnl and planning
track for kids, a huge playground for kids, disc golf, exercise stations, lerg,community careen, amfortheir consideation.Thank hforta kin henmem send hou hts.
to you m muc gt yourt g
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ALL age activities__ tjust walkingtrails Sell off same a fine l -is at fairmarket on ces to fund
these activities and zone it d-hom,s or conda5 so thatclks in the area that don't want a large
house can downsize and then their current Iarg,old house can be sold to increase supply A new
pool and wellness center with a gymwould be great bot that would b, very pricy and I am not sore
IT many residents wouldwant to pay $100/ma to fund it
1/20/2023 Ge Ir—Rackowsk, PT Goff
Ilike the golf coursebut would like c unity walking access to it Ther currently paved Thank you so m uch for your input for this community discussion about the Port Town send Golf Course and
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Poo sthon couldbeused. To make it safer here are a fee, options Don't open it to golfers until gge yourcommentsan y planning
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and close it of 4 or 5. Redesign to make walkers end golfers bath sefe_There area number of
a ampies on the,eb_Close it to golfers 2days a weekormore during the inter when there are team tortheir coned—don. Thank you m m uch fortak,ngthe rime m seodyour thoughts.
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few golfers
We don't use the golf course except when we have golfi no visitors. And golfers need a Irving
range. It coup move to Mt Vl ew (;ommons I Ilk, the open green space lets Imagine howl
maker it work for mare P,oPlel
1/20/2023 Thomas M. Wylie PT GoIf
Let's lea. the golf co ss it is. Maybe, ten yea wpublic opinionagain. For
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no .sh..Idfee.,.,the10 ... tail, View area. Maybe think about..pa,dl,g it little to
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the east and adding additional properties where two o mme. residences ere..wtakil,g up
team f—1 -c—deh., Thank you m much fortak,ngth, tine m send yourthoughts.
spaces
1/20/2023 Jutta Schneider PT Goif
Can 1pl.a.hav multi -u open space' le ,'. 1)it being need primarily to -
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wild"as habitatwith someinconspicuous wal king trails benef It ng both humans and no n
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humans 2)le,a,rtraI s at penmeteriorcycling or rollers katil,g, to (fast., speed
team for their co,s,d,ah— Thank you m much for taking the him t, m send yourthought,
ars) 3) leaving same area for golfers to use the course 1-2 days week ., a less
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non ed
a/pertiallyg,..—d course. P.m.ps this wauld be amyl hales m e...m m slate
other uses and cut do..., maintenance. I see this course as being a bit rougher, to
harken back to Old, Scotland and pr.vitl, same unique challenges. Limiting the course to
golf 1 .r 2 d.ys/week May -.fl act the actual prop art's, .f golfers in the community, which
seems fair.
1/20/2023 Dan Davis PT GoIf
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team for theirc—de h., Thank you m much for taking the tine t, send yourthought,
Keep the golf course. Open space is good Development can happen on the, parcels.
1/20/2023 Saah Walker PT GoIf
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team for theirc—de h., Thank you m much for taking the tine t, send yourthought,
Prioritize a pool/wellness center and mi ..td.., recreation.
1/20/2023 Margo -I,, PT GoIf
think changing the golf co et. multi-u,(wiltl lends, ea forwalks, .,east.,
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dogs, etc) is a better use than pouring more moneyint. a g.lfcourse used by as mall
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gmupof special interest folks. Plus it's,waste of open land requiring extra wat.ra,tl
team for theirc—d—t— Thank you m much for taking the tine m send yourthousun,
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chemicals to keep the grass. Yes the golf course brings in funds, but net m uch anon
basis. If you must keep the golf course, greatly,.duce the s¢. so mare of th.l.nd
is ofel
us. t. the Port Townsend community. Since moving t. Port Townsend theanlytime I
used the golf course was when I needed a bathroom. And even the cl ubbafl— is in
poor condition.
1/20/2023 Carolyn law PT GoIf
would prefer fir the golf co star .pen space. if thatm .ugh oriole
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ant to pl ay landscape, paths and places m be enveloped in nature. This would benefit
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the public trail system as a destination and provide the community with a"Central Pad
e," am fortheirc—deah— Thank you m much fortak,ngth, tine t, send yourthought,
thatlsa natural space -v ery different from the fort, place of rest within a Cappy's trails and
he like
1/20/2023 Dawn Reis Pi Golf
I'd like toreethe golf nurse remalna golf to.... Thls Comm— hasanabundanceof open
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green space andtaiis.Thegoif course hasmanyb„efitsforth, communityyouM and regularly
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fu,d,,—,forsp,nalint....ts.pi—,coal,., to support the goifrours,asa con munity
tea m for their consideah— Thank you m m uch for t, king the tm e fn send yourthoughts.
1/20/2023 Gina Webber PT GoIdf
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Ili— the —unity with a Port Townm,d address, but l don't li— the city. l a Imam nota
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golfer, so just wanted to getaii thoseaspects noted up front l have gone byW res the Kah Tai
team fortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch forty k,ngthe tine t, send y, ht,
Paine in bloom. In my view, theins a golf course out on Di", ... yR —that rerv,ces that
community. If youan afford W play golf -,gala 1, you canprobabiy afford fn doe out to that
why do we really n„d two, especiailygiven Mat the PT GC has such looming
mai nc,/upgade costs? Why not us, thepubllc io-town prop,rty for purposes that benefit
ns, boM tram as the broader loci communities Even if the property
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e,ds to produce revenue, lam sure there are multiple ways Mat would produce mar,. Thanks
far,xemining th,s—,.
1/20/2023 Anne McFarland PT Goif
If„I it is very important to keep the goifcourm and the open space th-t gives toeveryo,,.W,
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w verysurprfs,d when the talk of a moving the open space/goifcourse started! Just quite
M ou,tain View Com m ons. I have logged your con mentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
s Pneing.W, need the space,M,gree„ry,th,p,ac,fuln,ss a nit mor,. Thank you forietting us
team for th„-c—de h., Thank you m much for taking the tine to send yourthought,
express aur thoughts.
1/20/2023 Cath,, Wl,r PT Goif
phe s, consider affordable housing.
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team for th„-c—de h., Thank you omuch for taking the tine to send yourthought,
1/20/2023 Ca,i St—d PT Goif
le eMount,I, View Common, that i, clad.._. Food Bank, info/police steno,.
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YMCA/YWCA pool,physicef therapy space,Pick6 hall .... te.fter school program
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spaces...tmd,t(Recovery Cats) and performance space., arts and crafte space.
teamf—1 -c—deh., Thank y-omuch fortak,ngth, tine to send yourthought,
quiet meditative space /Iebynnthe golf course. Recycfery
120/2023 Peter Wen PTGnff
I h ave two separate comments. Re the process: l would prefer in of to have Thankyonev much foryour,pt fnrtm, evmmnmty ms aa. about Me P- Tnwn,end Goff Or—, end
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to use myphone to take a survey via the OR code. l think requiring citizens
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to use their smartphone to use a OR code to take a survey discriminates
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against or lesstechnological citizens. Why can't you make a survey
available via survey monkey orsimilar through computers? Older people are
generally more able to use a computerthan a smart phone because they
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can see the print.second. I am strongly in favor of ANY option that allows all
citizens to access theproperty currently known as the golf course. I don't
want any option that limits theproperty to a limited subset of the citizens.
Golf yes if a couple days a week and thenshared with others. Housing no,
no, no, no a thousand times no. we have hundreds of acres of land
available for construction of housing. this property should be preserved as
open space for future generations
120/2023 David sueter PT Goff
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It would be wonderful to have pickleball center like Sequi or Bainbridge Island
wherewe could hold Lou rna mems and be a destination to anon other Lha n
downtown forpeople to come ro on veation. With pickleball being so popular, folks
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re going toloations based at least pa rtly on the availability to play pickleball. Both of
those sltesalso have la rge play areas for children. Or have the course close at bpm for
✓alking. Butreall y, Fort Wnude” Fort Hagler, and FortTownsend and North Beach are
✓ meplaces tohlke.lplay bothp,:kleball and golfand hl he a Imn,t every day.
We need moreplaces to play pickleball as its popularity is outgrowing places to play,
but wa Iki,g a ndga if are fine the wa y they a rel Thank you
120/2023 Kathy Kause PT Goff
Please keep Me golf course osis. Ali Me alternatives a re going to con Me city a greatamount of
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eprM in planning, —t--and upkeep. We already have a pool -d—Sy pari:,W enjoy..
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.and yes I am NDT a golfer but am fl Selly responsible.
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121/2023 Edward Sampson PT Goff
I support any pian W convert PT Goff Course W m ore pressing nonoif uresof bene fl tto ail.
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121/2023 Kimberly Gallagher PT Goff
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I love the green space of the gulf course, but won Id rather It be accessible to
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orepeopla It won Id make a beautiful park at the center of town, Iwon Id love
team for their con„decu—rhank you s, much for taking the t— m send your thoughts.
to see Itbecome a permaculture food forest accessible to the community. It
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could be a model ofwhat is possible as we look toward sustainability and
healing the planet in these timesof climate change.I would love to see an
either at Mountain View or at another site. Abeautlful pool and
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real on/fitness center would be a gathering place and also ahealth benefit
fortha people of PT.
121/2023 Lynn S—,— PT Goff
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I I ive above Cherry Street on the west side of the h igh school and oversee the
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golfeourse and Happy Val ley's green spacesl do not play golf, but l do want
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the grounds lobe preserved as a green space. The city golf course has
protected this land for manyyears from development and that needs to be
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cognized. Is there any way that thegolfers could have certain days of the
week to use the 9 hole course, and for other daysthe grounds could be used by
pedestrians, walking through the park, staying on thepathways and not
trampling the greens, Dogs must be leashed and all dog wasteplcked up by the
dog owners. This would be a great use of public lands. Thank you. Lynn
121/2023 Ron Lewis PT Goff
Keep course, promote more..rti, part of PT..Change densvty rules formore housing, duplexes and
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1/21/2023 Fank Espy PT Goff
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I m In favor of keeping the golf course. However if there is a way to remode l
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thee lubhouse to al low for additional uses/act ivities l think that won Id be an
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1/21/2023 Kevin e'sh- PT Goff
It iso jeweithat has been are ta—fv years. Frisbee golf should bemade a part ofthecourre
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but updatingthe pool should be sepaated from the golf course. Wehave alarge pari: reghtdown
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the road so do we re ally need another"park"Not really. EnhaS,,d- t destroy the course.
team fortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch Aorta k,ngthe.mem send yourthoughtr.
1/21/2023 Norma Leith PT Goff
Keep a, golf course please
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1/21/2023 Charier Tobias Ti PT Goff
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For the best environmental purposespiease protect the golf course as it is now.
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Thank you for ma imaln Ing th lsva luable anal lciy owned property.
1/21/2023 Trudy Jay— PT Goff
KEE P the Goff CourreI Ev NOT envision it into buildings and pavement
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1/21/2023 Virginia k Kim, PT GoifIwvrldl,kem,ee
the Goif course remain a, a green area but a, a pari: a, well askeep,ng the
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pain,...
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1/21/2023 MARILYN L BERRY PT Goff
Note for the golf course to re main a, I,
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1/21/2023 Lauren Green land PT Goff
Please keep the golf course) It has so much unreamed potential and already gives,om uch to our,
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am far their con,,d,,at,-. Thank you m much far taking the flme m send yourthoughtr.
1/21/2023 M,chaei korinek PT Goff
)attended the 1/11/23 open house, and my two quest ions were read to the
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audience-what zoning changes would be required for multi family housing to
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be built on the site,and, is it possible to connect the site to a new trail around
team fortheir consideation. Thank youm cr crfortak,ngth,txr m endyo.rtho.ght,.
the Kah Tal Lagoon.?Regarding theerst one, sounds like there Is a deed
restriction which limits the use ofthproperty for a portion of It) to municipal
Uses Inot knowledgeable regarding thetechnlcalrues of deed restrictions,
but feel Ina, one of the biggest Issues In the city Isthe lack of affordable
housing, and to me this seems Ilk, an appropriate site to developwlth a
combination of housing and park uses, Including the possibility it a new
pooifacillty, to better benefit the community at large. Concerning housing, I
don't think the shortage of affordable housing in the community is going to be
addressed with the addition of only sing ie family homes, and believe that the
construction of modest 23 story duplex-fourpiex bu ))dings on this site would
be an effect lve way to Increase density/housing stock, while respecting the
issues of contextual scale and likely opposition by neighbors to multi family
housing. Given the greater expense and difficulty of bullding on sloping sites,
there Is a limited area that could easily be used for housing, but think by
lent Ing structures parallel to the contours of the slopes, it would be feasible
to use the portion of the site adjacent to Blaine for that purpose, In addition to
the other flatter areas fronting San Juan and Water/Cherry. As for the golf
course (probably should have started the note with this, but don't think I'm
getting graded...), I appreciate the green space it generally provides to the
unity, and also the convenience of having a course right In town. That
said, play golf (poorly) and have been to the course a couple times, but given
My experience on those occasions don't have any interest in playing it again-
1/21/2023 Sam Kaviar PT Goff
Ith,nk golf courses represent a poor use of p.bilc remurces and space, and are
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.tally fnendil l would preferto,ee ecofog,ai rertorat,on and/or anexpannon of
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the pool and add, i athleticfacil,ties.
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1/21/2023 Katherine Cody PT Goif
hove havingthe golf-oursel Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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1/21/2023 David Segieau PT Goif
I---gly opposed m keeping the golf course as It ---fly stands. It is not a geneai public Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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benefl tnor is it used by a majority of Me citrzensin Port Townsend.lategoriaily reject Mountain View Commons. I have logged your-om merits and will share Mem with Me City Council and planning
arguments that we should keep it in it,-urrent form b --"its Icy, been there", "ifs one of team for their--d—t—Thank y -much for to king the time m send your thoughts.
ur few remaining green spaces", or it used by lots ofpeople'". No oneis --mg that will
a parking lot or that it an't niii b- beautiful green space. W hat I — —gly raying
is thatrt isoutilized by a very smaiipeaentage of people. That space should be repurposed into
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m ething that benefi is alarger-ontingent of residents, serves m uitipie purposes, and continues
to be an opengreen space Mat we a n be proud of In my opinion, Mose who want the golf
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1/21/2023 Janet Keller PT Goif
I've already fi led out the survey butlwantm continue to express ty deep wish to—he Goif Thank you so much for yourinput for this-om —ty discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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Course a nd Mountain View Commons=ite�nvisioned formixed are so Marmon residents Mountain View Commons. I have logged your-om merits and will share Memwith Me Cty Council and planning
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- take adventage of this marvelous open space in Me middle of town. Thank you, team for their--d—t—Thank y- much forts king the time m send yourthoughts.
Janet Keller
1/21/2023 S—n Thompson PT Goif
I'min favor of maintaining the golf courseas open space. It would not need m-ontinueto be a Thank you so much for yourinput for this-ommunity discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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goif-ourre, how—e pari:, a native plant garden, an outdoor ed u-ationaifa-ility fo-Ild on the Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged yourcommentsand wiiishare Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
pa-ifi-NW environment, walking tails, etc would be desiabie. Please do not turn the site into team for their--d—t— Thank yoummuch for to king the time m send yourthoughts.
housing ar other development.
1/21/2023 John Rehr PT Goif
Thesitesh-ld remain open space a rid multi use purposes, but not tie---lyrest -ted to golf Thank you so much for yourinput for this-ommunity discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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NOT ufor any housing projects or other developments Mountain View Commons. I have logged your-om merits and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
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1/21/20238essJenninge PT Golf
My person al vision for Me property now occupied by the golf courre iso multi --green space Thank you so much for yourinput for thie-ommunity discussion about the Port Town send Golf Course and
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with areas fora variety of famii iendiy acmrties(picnicking horses hoes bocci bail and the Mountain View Commons. I have logged your-om merits and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
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crossed by walking and bikingtaiis.
1/21/2023 Seth Rolland PT Goif
If s reailyclear that Me golf course is used by far less people that Chl—oka, which i,l/ 10th the Tho nk you so m u -h for yourinput for this-omm unity discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
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well as Cherry meet pari: and the Skate par h: ,,h are tiny fracnonsof the me. ey the Mountain View Commons. I have logged your-om merits and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
golf clubs awn numbers, aI— no ane ores Me golf course, whichis haw it looks when I dmre by, team for their c— d—t—Thank you m much forts king the time m send yourthoughts.
Sadly golf is exclusionary, in that rt doem'tailow forother uses, even when there is only ane
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person, or none on the course. So SS acres isused occasionally bya few people. really want rtto
be open space, and open in Mesense that the community is welcome. Tails, sittingareas, mini
golf, and many, manyother ores an exist in tandem. Goif j- - t ane of them. Pi—,
thiswond"U community land into a true community asset.
1/22/2023 Daniel Stanahan PT Goif
Iwouid like m see the golf course be-onverted intoa combination of pubil-lya--essibie green Thank you so much for yourinput for this-ommunity discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
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space, and df, -N, housing. Mountain View Commons. I have logged your-om merits and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
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1/22/2023 Aleah Lawrence -Pine PT Goff
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I would like to see additional ways to u tilize the golf cou rse land considered
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in theplanning process. There are so many things that could be done there.
What about anamphitheater that could host concerts through the summer
months and walking trailsand an updated playground? Along with a food
truck pod location and some coveredpicnic shelter areas like at HJ Carroll?
The only decent playground in town is at theschool and is only available
during non school hours. I know there is concern aboutmaintenance costs
for the already burdened parks department. I think we could build
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avolunteer crewto help with maintenance needs. I'd love to see this giant
open space tithe heart of our town become a center for community building
rather than a space thatis used by relatively few members of our
community. I would also really like to see port Townsend fund an improved
aquatic center somewhere in town wether that be at MVC or the golf
course. The current pool (while getting better with warmer temps and some
increased hours) is just not enough. We need a 25 yard lap pool, and
something more accessible for kids. So many families are driving to PA,
Silverdale and Bainbridge very frequently to take their kids to swim. What is
the climate impact of all that driving? Also we are a maritime community,
have built maritime programs into our schools and there's nowhere in town
for our children to learn to swim? It's absurd!
1/22/2023 gory jonland PT Goff
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team fortheir consideration. Thank you m much Porta krngthe rime m send yourthoughts.
Please put me on your email list if I am not already.
1/22/2023 Eileen Lind— PT Goff
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I am a 71 year old woman with a progressive skeletal condition. I swim laps 3
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times aweek. It ism form of exercise and helps measurably with pain
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mfortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch Por krngthe nmem send yourthoughts.
control. I am askingthat our City consider an aquatic center to be built at what Is
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now the golf course. If ourcommunity pool were to close, it would be a dramatic
change for me, and not In a goodway There are so many people who could beneFl
t from not only a lap pool but also atherapeutic pool. The benefits for healing,
strengthening and Improving mobility are welldocumented.
1/22/2023 Marta Petermn PT Goff
Im for keeping Me grit course a open space(no buildings or pool), what a gem wehavein our
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city Lim rtsl We need to keep ouropen spaces, would be nice w have mm—w open for walking
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the--, tar non golfers.
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1/22/2023 Pasquale G—Id, PT Goff
Please, SAVE TH E GOLF CGUESEI II
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1/22/2023 Michael Kube, PT Goff
The golf course iso treasure which should be maintained. Therein a n be addttionaluse. forth,
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land which would be -,H, with the golf courre.
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1/22/2023 Richard Sussman PT Goff
The golf course has always been a —y loser a rid bad for the environment We need—,
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eq-,bl,,, of the land and W,remorces. If the golf nurse wasa privateboslne4l t would have
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gone under yearsago
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1/22/2023 John M Sheehan PT Goff
What percent of thel— a population uses thecourre ria regularbasis? Does the,ourse coverall
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operetrngexp ense.I Whatisthetaxabfevalue ofthe ,,r tyand doesthecourse adda similar
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valueto the community�AsforMe Mountain View complex, rtshould be painfully obviousthe
team fortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch Porta krngthe nmem send yourthoughts.
the city should have located police, H re, and cityadmrnirnanon to the business complex on the
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hill instead of Occup gi ,aluablecommertal tax yieldingproperty. And had we had a manager
and council that weremore intererted in improving living conditions for the look, other that
gentnfi cationthrs would have happened.Sell the damn complex and use Me money w reI—t, w
thebusiness park.
1/22/2023 Rebeca Hunt PT Goff
Please keep Me golf course Thank you so h for your input for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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122/2023 Gant Gunderson PTGvff
There are so many people crying about"my beloved golf course_wahhh."Ilike Thank y-ev much fveyourmput fvr tin, evm tydisev= about the Pvt Tvwneend Gvif Cvvrse and
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golf.Haven't golfed there, but would like to. But l also could be for an Mvumam View Common. I have ragged your sura mem, and wni chore them wren the City Cvv sand pla ,rg
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alternative use for thespace.Problem is l can only choose between"save the team fvr their ev deanvnmT ky-vmuch fvr raking the trine m send yvvr thvvght,
golf course" and.. "don't save the golfcourse?"Give us some alternatives we
an get behind.
122/2023 Mohler Stephen PT Goff
I think that the golf course should rema,na golf course.II lost to what everdevelopmenttt Thank you so h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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will be impossible w replace. Mountain View Commons. I have logged your cora mems and will share Mem with Me City Council and planning
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122/2023 kith kvpp PT Goff
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Though ldeeply support dense low Income housing l feel that the open space team fvr their d—h— Thank you sv much fvr taking the time m send your thvvghte.
of 1heG0If Course Is more essential. It could be relmaglned as a safe place for
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people ANDwl ld life. Having large green spaces throughout our town Is part of
the appeal to bothresldents and visitors. I wholeheartedly support keeping the
GolfCourse as OpenSpace.Regarding the Commons — Yes to enhancing the
pool, Yes to keeping the dog park, Yesto augmenting human needs areas such
as food bank and perhaps a youth center. ThePollce Station could relocate to a
Mre suitable location, perhaps along Slms Way. Amore visible Iocanon.
122/20231eigh Kennel PT Goff
Theo green open space and mature frees thatare part ofthethegoifcoursematter th,m tt, Thankyou so much foryourinput forthiscommunity discussion about the Portiownsend Goff Course and
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become moredeveloped, this lovely oasis of green will become evenmore important Whatever team fvrtheir c-,,d,at,-. Thank youth m uch fvrtakingthe nine m send yourthoughte.
happens, pure conserve the open space and trees. Keepthe Mountain View Commons out of
this discussion -rt deserves a focus of its awn.
122/2023 SCOTT MATH EW NGLLI PT Goff
There„quite a bit of under utilized property on the MVC ampul. While the single rtorybuild,ngr Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff"'and
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w eapproprrate for the s,hool,n the past, con —thi, ,hl, retry on thateite would be better Mountain View Commons. I have logged your cora mento and will share Mem with Me Gty Counciland planning
e of our fi nits pubilcspace. leave the golf course as open spa,,and maintain it currenture. team for their c-,,d,at,-. Thank youth m uch for taking the nine m send yourthoughte.
Develop the MVC property praperiy.
122/2023 Rita —o, PT Goff
Please, please do not take away one of the few b-ovrspv,t areas Mat are bit.lair-t Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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understand takingaway one area to replace with anvther.Theneed fvrtheswimmrngpvvi,s Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged yourcommentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
clear, but not at Me expense of the golf cvurre. team fortheir c-,,d,at,-.Thankyou vmuch fvrtzkingthe nine m send yourthoughts.
122/2023 Allan Brown PT Goff
have only been play, this course for Me part 30 years, l really enjvy the course Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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with Friend,and hmlly.l've,een lots of dlfferentgroup—i'piayer, he—an, there. l hope all cam fortheir consideation. Thank youth m uch fvrtzkingthe nine m send yourthoughte.
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122/2023 Terea Goid—uh PT Goff
levet[asopen space. Golfers go after 10' 00 am waike v0d ure it before 10.00 ac,N Yvrk Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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hila Cental Pari: why an'twe,zand --—i use but nvtdevelopfvrhvusing.Maybe Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged yourcommentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
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123/2023 Mei„a PT Goff
Pleaseretain the open space that reaches a broaderpvpufat—not just golf B,kingwaiki tab- Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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demonrtah_ habitat walk ways. P—,air— veered. Fre ptte. 1—ure.G-ovr obstacleH Mountain View Commons. I have logged your cora mento and will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
rse. Engage community,, pubilc spac .Perfvrman area for Shakespearean the park. team for their consideation. Thank you.m m uch for taking the nine m send yourthoughte.
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123/2023 Monte Reinders PT Goff
As of monday morning, Me QR code link ,not w b,ng. It aye "this form, vtaccething Thank you so h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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responses'. Al,v,there„ no altematrve link to thesurvey fvrtho,ewhvp,,f,, a direct link abler M vunta,n View Com m ons. I have logged yourcvmments and will share Memwith Me Gty Council and planning
thana QR code. Not sure y.,,, in, QR codes,, thrscvmmun,ty butmort by now cam fortheir con,,d,at,-. Thank youth m uch fvrtzkingthe nine m send yourthoughte.
should be able to know haw to ure a hat link on an,ntemetsite. Comments Keep rt a golf course.
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Maybe withsame times when golf„nvtalivwed/happening so that the open space an be used
far walking, etc. However, nvtethat despite the cvnrtant drumbatfvr"mare toile'", there are
hundreds of mries ofta,is,n and closely surrounding PT with hardly anyone walking on them
aiready.Mai"ta,n the toile that already exist. Start by H ling the low spate that became
largepuddies on the Kah Ta, ta,i y. _wh,ch , heav,ly used.
1/23/2023 Angela Pas— PT Goif Hello, I would like to express my desire to see Me PT golf course continue in its current -tate. Tha nk you so m uch for yourirpm for this comm unity discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
517 Online unfortunately the survey wasciored when ltned to -I- test Regards,Angela Mountain View Commons. I have logged your com mems and will share Mem with Me City Council and planning
team for their—adeau— Thank you v -n for to king the flme m send your thoughts.
1/23/2023 Cynthia Pando PT Goif Please keep Me golf course as itis. It wonderful addition to curares. Thank you so -n for yourirpm for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
518 Online Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Mem with Me City Council and planning
team for their—adeau— Thank you v -n for to king the flme m send your thoughts.
1/23/2023 Michael Peterson PT Goif Thank you so -n for yourirpm for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
Online With the housing needs and the needs of the commons'Im for removing the Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share them with the City Council and planning
golf eoursetoplaee tiny home/low Income/affordable housing. The plant life team forthev cons'deanon. thank you se muchfortakingthetrmem sendyourthoughts.
and Indigenous Ilfecan be renovated io kal tai lagoon craven Ch'ma gardens
s19area. Forthose looking forhousing especially low Income/affordable housing
there's nothingln the area. There's absolutely no reason that a studio
apartment In Irondaie should berenting for $2k a month or why a one bedroom
house should be $ik or more.lm usually a "save nature" person, but the land Is
more needed for bul Idinghomes/apartments than grounds.
1/23/2023 Vicki Young PT Goif Pieeseaddmynametothe" keepthegoif courre/orgoif course wiM enhancements Thankyou so much foryourinput forthiscommunity discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
520 Online forrecreat'on lilt. Targeting the golf course forrepurposingis such a blatant ploy for therea t M contain View Com at ons. I have logged your com me ms and will share Mem with Me City Council and planning
ertate intent[,of PT, none of which help our housing oraff -briny problem, tea m for their—adeau— Thank y- v m uch for to king the nm e m send your thoughts.
1/23/2023 Linda Heuertz PT Goif Thank you so -n for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
om'"e I love that there is a big 58 acre 'open' space in PT, but as a little-usedgolfMountain Vi— Inave mggedyourcommeatsa�d wnl snare Mem wan Me atycvu�nia�d piamm�g
course it sNOT truly an OPEN space atall to the vastmajorityof PT team tnrmev enns'deannn. rnank yoummuoh tortakmg Me rine m send your Noughts.
residents. It is also not anen vironmen tally friendly place with its manicured
greens treated with pesticides andmassive water usage. The impacts of
climate change are driving many citizens of otherstates to look for
environmentally safer, more inviting areas in which to live—PortTown send
has already become such a destination for climate refugees as
521 predictionsare that the Northwest will be one of the least impacted areas in
the US. As thepopulation continues to grow, and housing, out of necessity,
becomes more dense, wewill need more truly green, truly open -to -all
spaces. An arboretum -type open space,offering a variety of activities such
as trails forwalking birding in the wetlands,picnicking, educational
opportunities suchas plant care and ID, etc, would be an ideal use of this
marvelous piece of land. Keeping the prairie, possibly in expanded form,
would complementthis vision. Add a small building for an information
center and coffee/small plate cafe. Establish a nonprofit Friends
organization to help support it. Thank you.
1/23/2023 Jennifer Elias PT Goif Leave the Golfco.rse the way It l'I m aybe make as malls action for minigolffer Thankyou somuch foryourinput forthiscommunity discussionabout the Portrownsend Goif Courseand
Oni'ne kids the res a lot of affo ab v he,, ng l ng bu l Id Ing go Ing on. I've l ived he re most of my life Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged yourcommentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
522 and see that euro dlsa fast Please leave the Golf Coursel team fortherr consideation.Thank yoummuch forts k'ngthe nmem send yourthoughts.
pen spacesa re ppeaing
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PT obit ben at t thecommunity. Here are su ggestions raga rding the PT Golf Cou rse Thank ybu so much for y—, t for tors oommumty mmussmn about the Pore Tbwnsend obit Cburse and
onime that would reduceemissions from commuter transportation and increase Mbbbtam View Cbmmbns. Ihave bg dyburoommems and Misharem—-hthe Qty ---and piamm�g
tree/forest carbonsequestration: team fortheir consideation. Thank youm m uchfbrtakmgth nmem sendyburthbughts.
• Change zoning to allow high density residential housing on the PTGC
property. Encourage low income high density residential housing
construction on a portion of thePTGC property. Encourage uses on the
Mountain View Commons that would providemarkets/shopping within
walking distance of this future residential area. Considerrelocating some of
the existing uses at Mountain View Commons (police station? Foodbank?
Red Cross?) .
• Preserve the Kan Tai Prairie.
• Maintain mature, drought tolerant, native (preferred) trees that exist on the
PTGC.
Plant more trees, shrubs, perennials (of this type) as practical to create an
urban forest
with paths/bike trails. Link new plantings to the Koh Tel Prairie.
• Engage an environmental urban planner to facilitate site development
along these
lines. Reducing our GHG emissions and increasing CO2 removals benefit
the community
significantly, in ways that may not at first be apparent. The primary benefit
would be
contributing to climate stabilization, which would also (at a future date)
stabilize sea
level; maintain s n owp ack/gl aci a rs, stream and river flows and thus our
PT Gbit Keep thegoifcourm as isl Thank you so much for yburinput for this community discussion abbot the Port Tbwnsend Gbit Cbuae and
online Mountain View Cbmmbns. Ihave logged your comments and will share Mem with Me Gty Cbuncii and planning
team fortheir consideation. Thank you m much forty kingthe nme m send yburthbughts.
PT Gbif idbn'tpl, golf mo often....buti enjoy dining by Me courseand admin ng h, openspace....maybe Tha nk you so m uch for yburinput for this comm unity discussion abbot the Port Tbwnsend Gbif Cbuae and
online dffbrdabie housing could rtart at the post bffi ce orcourthb—, vaantareas....asforth," nothing Mountain View Cbmmbns. Ihave logged yburcommentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
for kids m db here" -pig— ibuise...ibbk team for their c—deah—Thank you m much for to king the —,m send your thoughts.
around..itswonderfui..bcean...fores[.... beaches......geez..again..rf that db— t wort: tar
ybu....thengo back tb yburvid- games and smart/dumb phone
PT Gbif our golf courseisa beautifui, large tact bf public is nd th-, used by a small group ofpeopie. I Thank you so much for yburinput for this community discussion abbot the Port Tbwnsend Gbif Cbuae and
online dine part the coursefe-huy&,tbften seems empty bf goiters dunngpiayabie daylight hours. Mountain View Cbmmbns. Ihave logged yburcommentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
we realty need tb makert mbreaccessibie&useful m a hr -hi-,, percentage of bu tys team fortheirc—deah— Thank ybum much for to king the —,m send your thoughts.
population. It would aim be nice m expand Me wiidfl b—fi aid.
1/23/2023 Nyla D -A PT Goff
Thank you so —i for your input for this community discussion a bout the Port Town send Goff Course and
Dorm,
Maintain the golf cou res as a green space, an open space.. It was given to Mou"tam View Commons. Ihav,mgg,d your comm,m, aid Mi share them wren the City --i aid planning
the city as apiece to be a park. But open up trails and ways for the public to team foe then conr,d,anon. Thank you. —h for taking the nm, m send your thought,
make use of it as apublic park. If the Mountain View complex (forme ny
Mountain View School) was closed because ofthe building's structural
problems, why are the buildings being leased to non pros is?Shouldn't the
entire structure be rebuilt? Delayed repairs might cause signifi can tdamage
in the future. Port Townsend School District might be liable. How is that this
isa question the City of Port Townsend is asking us to discuss here?
Doesn't the School Distnct have a say in any decision? And what about the
pool? Yes, I have morequestions than answers. How can I possibly have
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clear idea when so much is about infrastructure. And clearly the City does
not have resources to care for theinfrastructure in existence now. (Pot
holes; Repairs of discovery road; Housing;Swimming Pool) the list is just
too long. Yes, everyone has ideas...but question is...howto pay for it.
already our property taxes and city and county taxes are exorbitant --
causing hardship now...all the solicited ideas will go no place....without
funds.I participated in modeling '2020 Greenhouse Gas Community
Emissions Reduction Opportunities' and the 'Forests and Trees
Greenhouse Gas Inventoryfor 2001-2016 and Next Steps' for the Climate
Action Committee, which includes the City along with other large
stakeholders. I'm a recently retired environmental engineer. Thank you for
your consideration — Cyndy Bratz, cyndy.bratz@gmail.com, 208-440-8335
1/23/2023 Kenneth Clatterbaugh PT Goff
Thankyou so muchforyourinputforthiscom —ty discussion ab-tth, Portrowns,.d Goff Course and
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My comments are based on the following assumptions. Port Townsend will Moumam view commons. Ina�,mgg,d your comm,mrand wni snare tn,m wan the cry counni and planning
receive alarge number of climate refugees in the next few years, most from team torm,v conr,d,anon. rnank yoummuoh tortakmgm, nm,mr,nd yourmougntr.
other states. Ourclimate will change probably with more heat, smaller
snowpacks, and more severdrought. The current loss of diversity of plants,
animals and insects will continue. Mostchizens now and in the future will
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want to retreat to a nature reserve that gives themrefuge from the above
natural declines and that will put more pressure on the openspaces that are
left. These assumptions point to a conversion of the current golf courseinto
a park like setting, which serves more people than the current use, lessens
thewater use, provides shade and habitat, walking paths, and education on
what is neededfor a sustainable environment, a area that is easily
accessible to PT citizens, something like a nature reserve or an arboretum.
1/23/2023 GG Wiic— PT Goff
The golf cours,is a beautiful open area that, once developed, will never be able to goback. if Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion a bout the Port Town send Goff Course and
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there were days when,t could b, a pari: (Iike weekends) and other days thatitcouid stili be a golf Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged yourcommentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
course, then the community gainsin Thank you for considenngthe opnons.both ways. team fortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch forts kingthe rmem send yourthoughts.
1/24/2023 Elena Smith PT Goff
Iwasn'taN, m do the survey in time, but to, hi,t it's worth I,t against k„pingthis am golf Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion a bout the Port Town send Goff Course and
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se. Speakingasa youngerperson in alowincom, back,t, itsimp,ativ, forth, future of Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged yourcommentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
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thistown to attar[ayounger, working class demogaphic and golf is north, way to do thatA team fortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch forty kingthe rmem send yourthoughts.
P_,nature area, or something similai that is fill, and frf,ndiy tochiidr,n would b, goat If rt
m artb,developed,then rf housingisat ALLpossible Mat Od b, my pnomy.
1/24/2023 Gretchen Asher PT Goff
Spilt the propertyinto two nines; one for open space or dog pari: and the other, toad— part of Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion a bout the Port Town send Goff Coors, and
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the cement dining ii,- w install a Top Goff activity. Top Goifis,xc„dmgty popular throughout Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged yourcommentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
the PNW.It seems to b, quite an income g,n,amrforoth,rv,nu,s w, have reen. Given there, team for their consid,ation. Thank you m m uch for taking the nm, m send your thoughts.
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-o— a With Tap Goif, it,, likely toattact th— who might not b, TO fi edged golfers but who
-enjoy
the Top Goifformat as well as encouage aur loci youth who then might became
lovers of .IT
1/24/2023 Noreen Parks PT Goff
IMG, thecity property where the golf current is would better serve the public's interert rfother Thankyou so —h foryourmput forthis community discussion a bout the Port Townsend Goff Coors, and
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a could be accomodated, such as spast,end r,caau— A new swimmingpooi would b, Mountain View Commons. Ihave logged yourcommentsand will share Mem with Me Gty Council and planning
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g—rt tthe cart would need m b, known up front. team for their co—deau— Thank youmm uch for to king the nine m send your thoughts.
1/24/2023 Young Rowland PT Gbit
It you invite Pickle Bailers t, play at -y given day of the week, a minimum of 24 pe,pie.,li show Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Gbit Course and
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up and nit every..—want, t, play —tit,—It(there.-Id be ab,ut3-0 pebpie whb M—t—View C,m—, I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with Me Qty Cbuncil and planning
wbuid want t,play). It you look at Me golfcurse at any given day,there are less Man 4 pebpie. team for their[—deah—Th-k y -much for to king the t— t, send your th,ught'.
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As PT lax payers, mare pebpie s—Id have rfght't, —the city space. I sec --d p -,-gin
rePubilc PPckiAO & Tennis c,-, I believe existing golf [burse can be maintained while
adding m a re PB/T,—, — —w the existing space. Thank you for AH the hard—M
1/24/2023 Brent Rowland PT Gbit
Given the need for - aging PpuIah-W remain active for phy'iai and mental health, I. -Id Thank you s, much for yourinput for this community discussion abbot the Port T,.n'end Gbit Cburse and
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suggert building m bre pickle bail courts. Mountain View Cbmmbns. I have logged your --t, and will share Memwith Me Qty Cbuncil and planning
team for their c—deah—Thank you m much ta k
f,ring the t— t, send yourth,ught,
1/24/2023 Gbrd-Brxc,e PT Gbitlwbuid
liken seea variety,f recreati,nai bptibns, If p— ail,.', while stili k -e gth, golf Thank you s, much for yourinput for this community discussion abbot the P-T,.n'end Gbit Cb—,and
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c,urse.Pckiebaila ndtenni' wbuid be greataRivRie' W add. Mountain View C --I have logged your c, -t' and will share Mem with Me Cty Cbuncil and planning
f,ring the t— t, send yourth,ught,
team for their c—deah—Thank you m much ta k
1/24/2023—Y,,berger PT Gbit
11,Ib,utI c,upietenni'c,urt' and picklebailbut'epaated by quite a dirt—,beau'e,f Me Thank you s, much f,r your,n t for this community discussion abbot the Pbrt T,.n'end Gbit Cburse and
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n,i'efact,r. Al"wbuid haver, placed s, rib erza nt golf bails ha thec,urt'. Mountain View Cbmmbns. Ihave loggedyour cbmmerits and will share Mem with Me Cty Cbuncil and planning
team for their c—deah—Thank you m much f,rta king the t— t, send yourth,ught'.
1/24/20235h 1—C„k PT Gbit
It wbuid be nice t,add s,metennisand p,ckiebail court. Thanks. Thankyou', much tbryourinput for this community discussion abbot the Pbrt T,.n'end Gbit Cburseand
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team for their c—deah—Thank you m much ta kin
f,rg the t— t, send yourth,ught,
1/24/2023 Cndy Jayne PT Gbit
lwbuid like t, see Mountain View include a Community -,I—, center thM h,Ihd,,fi itati,n Thank yous, much tbryourinput for this community discussion about the PbT-11,11 Gbit Crse and
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prep--, f,rci,mate-pac mthe future. Note Mat WA C. ...ecurrentiy hasa grant for team for their[—deah—Thank y -much farta king the t— t, send yourth,ught'.
solar and back up, which includes funding for planning such a t—
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1/24/2023 Car,i AI,th-yG-1-PT Gbit
It, by sbmech—,,the golfc,urre remains, a rid Me city owns Me prbperty and --y ht, Thankyou s, much tbryourinput for this community discussion abbot the Pbrt T,.n'end Gbit Cburseand
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It,upkeep,golf! ng Mere s—Id be freer very cheap for Port T--dre'id—, l want my tax M—t—View C,m t— Ihave loggedyourc,mmentsand will share Mem with Me Cty Cbuncil and planning
dopa rs togotowardssomething tha t more people can use forfree or lnes —vely... Plddeball team f,rtheir c,nsideati,n.Thank yoummuch f,rta kingthe nmem send yourth,ught'.
t', disc golf, walking tails, nature, pari:, pitch -dp-,, etc. N,b,dy s—Id make—y,ff
city awned pr,perty. The golf curse s1 -11b, run by the city If It stays. Why .-Id the town
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esl dent want more of their bsdol lays used to go for something most people can't or don't ure7
As a golf [burse, I —nit ail,.ed t, walk --d - the pr,perty.,th— paying for golf! ng;
d—,'treemrl ght when the golf nurse Is city owned. Leaving - I—pensive driving ange
with,utthe full golf c,urre wbuid be acceptable t,,. I d, NOT give perms"Tari tar my name t,be
pubilshed ,r shared with my cbmmerits.
1/24/2023 Car,i AI,th-yG-1-PT Gbit
Ifby same chance, the golf c,urrere,%,',and Me c,ty,wns Me pr,perty and put'm,ney int, Thankyou', much ft, your,np,tft, thi'c,,,,,,tydiscus'i,n abut the Port T1111111 G,if C11111 and
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'upkeep, golf!n Mere sh,uid be free,rvery cheap for Port T--dre'idents, l want my tax M—t—Vie. C,mm— I have logged your --t, share Mem with Me Cty Cbuncil and pl—mg
dopa rs to go towards somethi thatmore people can use forfree or lnes —vely... Plddeball team f,rtheir c,nsideati,n.Thank yoummuch f,r2kingthe nmem send yourth,ughts.
t', disc golf, walking trail, nature, pari:, pitch -dp-,, etc. N,b,dy s—Id make —y,ff
city awned pr,perty. The golf curse s1 -11b, run by the city If It stays. Why .-Id the town
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esl dent want more of their bsdollars used to go f.... mething most people can't or don't ure7
As a golf [burse, I am nit ail,wed t, walk ar,und - the pr,perty.,M,ut pay,ngf,r golf! ng;
doesn't--ght when the golf nurse Is clry owned. Leavl'g an Inespenslve drlvl'g ange
.,th,utthe ull fgolf 'burse .-Id be acceptable t,,. I d, NOT give permissi,n tar my name t,be
pubil'hed,r shared with my cbmmerits.
1/24/2023 DOUGLAS MCENERY PT Gbit
Please add addM—, recreat—c,vered tennis [bort' Thank you s, much f,r your,n tf,rthis c, —ty disc --i b,ut the Port T,.n'end Gbit Cburse and
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team for their c—deah—Thank you m much f,, -mg the t— m send yourth,ught,
1/24/2023 Knrta Myers PT Gbit
Hello and thank you for engaging with the cora moony on this prbjectl l would like tbexpress how Thank you so —h for your input for this community discussion about the Port Town send Gbit Course and
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,tai itis that whatever designs are dawn up and —,d bf by thecbmmunity,that they
Mbuntam View Cbmmbns. I have logged your cora mems and will share Mem with the Qty Cbuncil and planning
shbuid ail pribntrze surtainabiliry,effi tient design,and renewabieene.gy. whether itisa
team for their cbnsideau—Thank you, m uch for taking the fleas m send your thoughts.
unitY center, swimming pool, golf tour,, br cbmmunityspace-it shbuid be fully electric
with It, awn blas panels, e1i tient hwtfl /cabling(ieelectnc heat pumpsJ, water —1--
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(where a ppilabie), EV charging, pr ,,u,mctrve transpbrtatibn (bikes/walking), and designed tb
e the least amount bf energypbssibie m g--i. Itis fleas m walk the walk bn climate change
and demrbbnrze burpubGc spaces, and show whata clean, green, and healthy town ran look like.
Qtypianningisa vital climate solution -piw`, use thisbppbrtunity tb lower aur carbbnfbbtprint
bf Port Tbwn,ndl Thanksl
1/24/2023 Karen Bert PT Gbit
Keep It golf coursewith—it+ecreatibnai use likepicM, bail courts tucked m near theentrance.
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Mountain View C--I have logged your cbm mems and will share them with Me Qty Cbuncii and planning
team for their c—deau—Thank you ,, much for to king the fleas m send yourthbught,
1/25/2022 David Michael PT Gbit
leave —t bf the golf course mt-c t please buiida new tennisc—t. The(,tiimany)tennis
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players m town have already lost some bf burcburts tb the well-H nancedpickiebaii crowd. We
Mountain View Cbmmbns. I have logged your --t, and will share Memwith Me Qty Cbuncil and planning
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also �art bur hitting wail when they convinced the city Wjust hand over the c—thbusecburts.
t mm for theirc—deau—Thank you, m uch for to king the fleas m send yourthbughts.
Please ow" pi—, db something for the true mhl, s, the tennis cbmmunityand pi—, pi—,
please db Nor give mare space w the picklAO crowd.
1/25/2023 L-Sierza PT Gbitlaminterested
in'new use for the golf course that does not include subsidizingwater,require
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--1 and herbicide appilmtibns. It shbuid In--use for m brethan one hobby a nd
Mountain View C--I have logged your cbm mems and will share Memare with Me Qty Cbuncil and planning
that is amble by a handful bf people at any given time. Refibrert-,,,m e housing, community
team for their cbnsideau—Thank you, m uch for to king the fleas m send yourthbughts.
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tace spand etr�Rures goad starts. I havest—I, memories bf great t—, at CbdbmRes
Park and live oak Pari: m Berkeley, CAwhere the landsmpe is partly forested tar easy walks/hikes
and includes piay,t—tures, amphitheatre, and picnic amenities.
1/25/2023 Tiffany Holbrook PT Gbif
I was at th e Open House at Fort N/ orden on J anua ry l 1. l attached my
Thank you sb —h for yourinput for this community di,ussibn abbot the Pbrt rbwnsend Gbif Cburse and
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sticky In ote on aposter board th at said" Explain how the Port Townsend Golf
M—tain View Cbmmbns. Ihave ragged yobs cbmmems and wnl chore them wah the Qty Cbbnd piannmg
Course project hasmorphed into a combination project to include the Mt.
tea'fbrtheir c-„d,at,-. Thank yob, mnchfbrtakmgthetrmem sendyburthbughts.
View Commons". The Parks and Rec department seems to have clear
junsdiction for the golf course and (appreciate that there is a "public
process" for this. It is not clear that the City has jurisdiction over the Mt.
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View Commons. As a stateowned property, the school district has the
"control", however I do understand that theChy manages the property for
the school district. Please make it clear how thesedecisions have been
made and why the city is "in control" of the process for Mt. View. I was
deeply concerned with an answer I heard given to a question that was
asked about the Mt. View pool and what would happen to the building if
another aquaticcenter were to be built elsewhere.
125/2023ebb-aundeman PTGbif
I think the Port Townsend golf cou rse provides an impo ban t ou tlet for
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recreational usefor people of all ages. l believe the problem is it's way
Mbbntam View Cbmmbns. I have ragged ybbr cbmmems andwnl chore them wah the Qty Cb—d and piammmg
underused. I'm told in partbecause there isn't adequate budget to do
teamfbrtheircbneideat,-.Thankybb, mnchfbrtakmgthetrmem sendyburthbughts.
programming and promotion. I think withsome minor physical improvements
the golf course would be more attractive to golfers.Eut I think more
importantly there needs to be outreach to the community anddevelopment
of programs that attract more golfers or "would be” golfers to the course.For
example, Seattle has a vibrant First Tee program for its youth that takes
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placeduring the summer. PT youth could defi nitely benefi t from having
more recreationaloutlets and activities. Other programs could be promoted
for seniors and otheragegroups, but it takes some backing and personnel
for this to happen. can't imagine thecourse needs the investment of
$1 million+to increase its use and value that I saw previously released, but
I do agree that some physical improvements need to be made.And how
about a mechanical ball sweeper for the range? I can't believe PT Golf
Coursehas people out there collecting those balls by hand. Thank you for
your consideration.
125/2023 Damen, M,O,Ibnd PT Golf
I strongly advocate for a mixed use plan for golf course and mountain view
Thankyou,o mush foryourtnput rortm, community mscus,mr about th, P-Tr.r„rdGolf C—,,ard
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commons.Some housing, some actual park green space (as opposed to
Mruntam view crmmrr,. I haus mggedyrurcommert, and.H r—th—.ahth, Qty --d and planning
golf course) a biggerbetter facility for indoor sports activities such as
team trrm,v con„d,anrn. rnank yrummurh trrtakmgm, rmem„ndyrurthrught,.
swimming. The more diversity in typesof space, the higher diversity in types
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of people utilizing the space. Golf, unfortunate) y,provides a singular
experience for a small group of people during a relatively smallamount of
time during the year. For this land to truly be a community
commons,changes must be made. Thank you all for your time and energy
s4D 125/2023 Damn, Fodo, PT Golf
Ithink it's time for the City of Port Townsend to work with local tribes--
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Ch emakumdescen dents and S'Klallum-- on a plan that gives land back to
Moumam view crmmrn,. Ihaus mggedyrur1-11t,and.ni,h—th—.ahth, Qty --d and planning
the tribes from whom itwas stolen. Affordable housing so Chemakum
team trrm,v con„d,anrn. rnank yrummurh trrtakmgm, rmem„ndyrurthrught,.
descendents can afford to continue tolive in our area, on their historic
homelands. Preserving the Camas Prairie. We could Pea leader in
considering how to redress wrongs of the past.
55o 126/2023 Gene Au—t, PT Golf
Would appreciate more tennis courts. Thank you
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551 126/2023 Jennifer S-th PT Golf
Iwouid prefer that a —unity center that youth and —ft, a nail use. l do not knr.on,
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p,rsvn that --fly uses the grit course E,,,d„the fact that th,u— a noth,rgrif course that
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the few can ore.
team tortheir consideation. Thank you m much forty kingthe rime m send yourthrughts.
552 126/20235umn ritu, PT Golf
Iwouid lik, t,,, the grit ours, gone and repl—d-th ,thing like what', in5,quim M the
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Carry Blake park.A place where —y talk, and femili„couid H nd,omething rfinterert tr dr. l
Mountain View Crmmrn,. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with the Qty Council and planning
a nth, PT summer band.ml.-Id)Duerr„e acov,r,d performing stage torah who could
earn f,, th— con,id,ation. Thank yoummuch for to king the t— m send your thought,
rt. oth,ridw, could include pickIAO,rf course, rr b—bO, a picnic area, waikingtaiis, bike
rail,,
repairing rr replacing M,pooi, exert„ room, art room.. I'm not sure haw the pari fi tela
with themme area but itwouid b, great Winclude it. Maybe including same medium income
housing could payforthis new pari:. Corti, rb,,—Iya major concern.
553 126/2023 Janine Pareki,tr, PT Golf
Revision asa public pari:, but with mm e SUSTAINABLE, EC6LONSCIDUS, LEE DCERTIFIE D,
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onaibiy paced, SMALL h—u dupi,--mpi,xesinmecomer. Iigrifers want tr keep iE
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th,nth,yn„d w com e up with the money t,—fain itth,mreiv„ without using public/mry
team tortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch forty kingthe nmem send yourthrught,.
funds.
554 126/2023 Peter Bony- PT Golf
It there..„uffi tient intererlin playing grit in Portrr.n„rid the grit c,—,.ouidhav, far
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,than it has.Inr,vi,.ing the --t, opinions rt LA,.hotrok the survey, —y
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rt the paI pant,atth,op,nhaus,, letters Wthe ed,W— Th --,and through
team for their consideation. Thank yoummuch for to king the rime t, rid yourthrught,.
trove within,nd,,Ihav, developed the following opinion,. open space is vital Wour
com munitynGoif i,vocaily,upp -, art sr much rn th,hirway. Other r, cat—M—,,t„
farmrre. Housingfor.ork: d—p,rpl, , f
iesrentiai we ars t, continue eing
engaged inb
itai, liveable community. A po — rfth, 57 acres, 10 acres or.m has been sugg -h could b,
devoted w p,rman,ntiyaffordabie hDusing perhaps c-p,ratrvely built, awned and managed
without unpin gin gra other ores. A, Richard Berg suggerted in a lettertr The leader, since ail rt
this la rid was the u,ualand curtrmary hunting, gathering a rid living place rt the Chimakum
people, the tub—r-ld m leas[ b, consulted and asked f they want the ---d A,
A,
,ttiers h—, awe much that an never b, adequately- -.Th, Jamerm.n S'Kiailam awn
andrp,atea grit course. I .raid guess they might have same well considered ideas
abo—pp-t, uses rt this la rid.
555 126/2023 L -n, malan PT Golf
Iwouid love t, see some rt the land used fortennisand picki,bO court, arida pari:.
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556 1/27/2023 -- 1— Vaughn PT Goif
lam in favor of keeping our city golf cours, l am nota golfer, naris my husband.However, we
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live near the golf Lour,,, ad seldom do l dmre by and nobody i, playinggoff, weather permitting
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of courre.lf money iso concern, wise the fee,, keepingin and student,and seniors should not
team for theirc—d—t—Thank you.m much forts king the rime m send your thought,
pay full price. And while I'm voidng my opinion, FIX THE POT HOLES IN OUR STREETSI Do we
need to,ncrease city retail t—,? Do we need a g—t� Do we need m move money around? lose
Benton Street where It toms into Fr daily, and I am forced to dmre in the oncomTngian
ve,beau,, ane hale is m b,g. That i, dangerous, especially b"—, othe high school students
walking and dining.
557 1/27/2023 Nancy Erreca PT Goif
Did you hear or read about in the January 25 leader the State H the Gay speech? if yo.did you
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may have noticed that there wa, some moneyfor rtreet, but not enough, some —y forsewe,
Mountain View Commons. I have logged yourcommentsand w,ii,hare Memw,th Me Gty Council and planning
repair bot noten,,gh and working on fundingfor housi ng. They will bel ooki ng at the -W,
team for theirc—d—t—Thank yo.mmuch forts k,ngthe nine t, send yourthought,.
increased car tab tees and mien tax revenues. There was nomennon of money furan the things
you were told you could have at Mt. View. That b— currently there i, none. So why
.... age yo, to think of ail the —1,10I y- want knowing they do not even have
e o.gh money for rtreets, sewers andhousing?
558 1/27/2023 U—Martin PT Goif
leave the golf coy..eas it i,.It... -.ages individuals ofaii a ges to get ---I,
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whether they're real golfers or j-putteringaround. My neighborpiaysw,th her 95 yearald
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father. I hear he's pretty goodl
team fortheir c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the rime m send yourthought,.
559 1/30/2023 J ohn Wiley Green land PT Goif
Keep the 9 hole course. Th,, isa geml
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team fortheir c—d—t—Thank you m much ty k
foring the rime m send yourthought,
560 1/30/2023 E,,gh,d Kennedy PT GoifIw..idiovett—the
large property spilt into three uses.A parkforaii,a small goiH ngarm to
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preserve the donators intention, and low In—, hoosng along San Joan Ave togive more
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fam,l,esa chanceto rtay in Pi and add to the economic diversity of ousomm.nity.
team for their con,,deaR—Thank you.m much for to kTngthe rime t, send yourthought,.
561 1/30/2023 J0N KF0% PT Goif
Tennis courts would beawesomel
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team fortheir consideation. Thank you m much Porta kTngthe rime m send yourthought,.
562 1/31/2023 Royce join., PT Goif
Iwo.idi,ke Me golf coo..em remain.l'd like to see changes m .....age moreparticipanon and
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has th--.,and is never open. Itsho.id go back to the
ue. The current rertaua m clo
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mfe/mndwich shop format with an intererting menu and peopiewould come again. ltured to be
team fortheir consideation.Thank yoummuch Porta k,ngthe .mein send yourthoughts.
fun to sit outside in that pretty area with a nice Iunch.Next, if the comments are true that the city
in groups do n,th,,gm advert,,, theca.... Mati, terzible and should change. And, I wish
the tour,, would consider having,ome cio,,d hou, when people can walk the course. Sell
walking passes tar revenue.l'd buy ane rf could walk late in Me day or summer evening. Paths
could be alongthetreestoavoid wearon the fairways.PS would use the poolrf tha d better
hou.. foriap,w,m,.
563 2/1/2023 Robert Lepoan PT Goif
keep public golf course
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564 2/10/2023 Mike -0— PT Goif
Assuming the City decides to continue w use the golf course propertys a nin, ibole golf course, Thanks for your thoughts. I will pass italong w the team and see how it fits with the recommendation, from the
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I'd like to,u - two very different approaches they might take Mat would daw many m ore
golf consultant.
9.1f 11 rid provide annual revenue for the Cty.l. Municipal golf courses are typiaily managed
under the pari:, department. I think an approach that could wort: well for the PT course i, W
have the pari:, departmentwori:ers maintain the --, while the pro shop, driving—, Id
iii,un by independent contactors. The S' Kiailam tribe, who awn the Dungeness Goif
Course Sequim, currently have this kind contactual arangm,nt with the Peninsula Goif CUin
Part Angeles for running their pro shop. As t, the maintenance of the course, my reuse i, that
to three full-time position,, assuming ane has sub,tantiai greens keeping experience, could
achieve the needed upgade, and su rtained course qua Aty to achieve positive revenue for the
city, particularly with th, t,-gvblunt— group at the PT course. Being pari:, department
employees, these—be,, could also be assigned wort: at other pari:, facilities where
appropriate2. A second very different approach w the future management of the PT Golf Course
would involve approaching ieg—ai mites with proven tack iecord,in ownership and
anagm,nt of golf courses whether they'd be int,re-d in taking on the upgade and running
of the PT course. Two obvious choices are the Jam,rtown SKiailam mite who awn the Cedars at
Dungeness Goif Course in Sequim and the Suquami,h Indian Tribe who awn the W hit, Horse Goif
Coursein Kingston. A recent le—t, the Leader gently sug-dgivingthe golf course property
back w the Indians. I'm sure this i, not on the table for the PT course, but might there be a
regio nai mite who wouldbe int,rert,d in a very long-term lease? I apologise if I've gone on too
much here, especially Ifthi, g-has already been covered in your assorted meetings. Thanks
again for the wort: you are doing.
566 2/3/2023 Mary Devoe PT Goif
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The golf course,,.res prtm, rea l estate that could oth,,.- help the whole co mmunity not junta
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few From nature reserves ma descent dog pe rk m ro m,Mingforourldds who areso bore d,
,amfortheirconsideation.Thankyoummuch Porta kingthe nmem send yourthoughts.
they are turning to other things. Pleave don`t remind me of the skate park. After 15 Kids prerent,
it becom _da ng"_ Placesm meet for coffee whe.e one doesn`t have to light the tourtrn for
at7 A v✓nterttme skt, area so we don`t have to drt,, to P Angeles? W hat about an outdoor
er skttng areal Even a t, home mom munity wu ld all f tin that vavt area. I[ mould geneate
inwme not loose income for the town
567 2/4/2028ndg,t Gregg PT Goif
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v✓n wrtM few recreattonal acttvity forldds, it isa welco m e affordable Mt,rnativ,. The other
team fortheir con,ideation. Thank y-much fortaimgthe t— t,send yourthought,.
golf courres in the su,rounding a reav are too expensive for my husband and Kids W go to.
568 2/4/2023--V Schwartz PT Goif
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I support maintaining the Port Townsend Golf Course for golf Although lenfoy oth,.acttvittes,
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such ✓miming and hiktng,ICa n'timegfn, why there ecttvitt,s should require the closing of
team for their con,ideation. Thank y-u much Porta kingthe rime t, send yourthought,,
this lovely courre.
569 2/6/2023 Carol Sword PT Goif
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Thank you fortak,input, Pleave leave the golf course greenway for the birds a ridWildlife.
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Build,., a re quickly chipping a way at their habitat inourtown. P leave,0 no dwellings o n this
team fortheir con,ideation. Thank y-u much fortaimgthe t— t, send yourthought,"
C al perkI rid Shrink or disc pp,er the golf course. l've owned a house nearby for 32 y,ersl
see few golfers at the courre. Expanding the Pairt, would be wonderful.
570 2/7/2023 Shelly Webb PT Goif
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Itseems that large love ly gr„nspe,ein the middle of PortT--d—Id be better used if it
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8,,8118 b1, to more people There is a s mall group of individuals that have access t, this area.
team fortheir con,ideation. Thank yoummuch fortakingthe rime t, send you,thougIt”
There murt be some way to accom mod8t, more of the public Let's keep it green, but incre8re
I, those that don`t golf W8lktng tails? Are there any corners to Putin Pickle Ball cour47
Aim at 8cttv,, outdoorv,nu,s.
571 2/8/20238 —b— Tuning PF G'if
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The green space a.d especially the nattve meadow,,.tt'n areimpeattve tour healthy
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--by . Whatl don't like is so m uch la.di, the ----of'urt'wn befog -df,,
muc gthe b— d yourth'ughts.
tram fortheir.—deab—Thank youm h fie—Imt sen
,o.lusiv, purposesuch as golf Itis a n expensive sport -d d„ partl.(p-, by ourless
fortunate community members. Th,...rent course takes up valuable land that could be enjoyed
by all walks ('r rtde,) of our --by. Since there is a nice golf wurse rtght'utSde City Iimih,
,by can't that be used for golfers? Ves, fees are higher, Maybe av a wmpr'mite, keep a dRving
a.g, a nd a puttl.g"", onthetown course.The restof the space would be wonderful to
share-th ,, agula..'m—tyf'. walkin lZt, ditab led acce.¢ paths, picnicareas, exercise
and nature trail[ where people can wa Ika nd enjoy the gr,,.tp—, A covered picnicarea
(like m HJ Carroll Park) would be great alto Snce there are no placer like that in town for -11
gather[. gs. Keep the restuant....'nv..t it to a wm munity kitchen Mat—Food —k and
other like,nttt_ could vse P1,av, don't allow the prtvfl,g,d few t, -dc d, the us, of,u.ha
treasure forth, r,, fes.
572 2/9/2023 MicheleJ K"men PF Goff
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ndthm th—,,y ha, d—l h'p,—pl,g thcois —t -11 b, a l lowed If„I
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ounfortheir
that the...r,.t Golf Course vseit sparseand,x.lusiv, of'th,racttvft—, l w'u ld like to seea
eat c'nsideati'n.Thank youm—bfi,rtakingth,b—h, sendyourth'ughts.
public park -h play ground, name areae, including accessible walking trails, and a disc golf take
the place of the underused Golf wurse Pleave pla n around the mature bees.
573 2/9/20231ynn Hamlin-te Marter PF Goff
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This needs to b,a—Itt vsdarea-[Hilt,picnicarea, maybe a 3 ho 1, golf wurse',frtb„golf
team fortheir c'nsideati'n.Thankyou.m much f'rtakingthe brae to send yourth'ughts.
wurse. Andif P, le builda fewaff'rdable h,u' gunits.
574 2/19/2023 Peter Guerre.' PF Goff
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Thewst of brt.gf.g this golf wurse up to mndards is not j-Ifi,d g—, th, declining interest
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
and partfcipa1—in this,p'.c K„ping M, space open for pamive recreatton—walking, j'ggf.g,
team fortheir c'nsideati'n.Thank youm—bfi,rtakingth,b—h, s,hdyourth'ught,
biking, and a,vJm ming pool, occupying the f"tprtnt of Me eKitttng clubh'ure, it more closely
aligned v✓th M, wm lby', recreatt'nal needs. Keeping it av open -,-h —,d
deve lop— -Hent the planned higher density develop—m'f,urr'undi.g p.... It a nd M,
inu easing i"' L'nw open gr,,. space in a m'., densely developed Port Townsend Finally, av
open space the site -"I but,,,nvi.'.r.e...l benefits for managing runoff Mat would
'thb—,, require expensive--waterinfathu.tur, t ""'plith.
575 2/22/20238rian tench' PF G'ff
P'rcT'wnt,ndG'ItC'urseita valued part'fP'rc---d% hin' ry. It provide, green Apace
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and recreattona.dita valuableinvestment,hand by MI resident, and—It"'.It's Bary to lose
Mountain View C—t— I have logged your m ens and will share Mem with Me Cty Council and planning
a nd very difttwkt ["claim I—........ and development III—,keep,upp t, the P-
t--- fhc'nsideati'n.Thankyou.m much f'rtakingthe brae to send you,thoughts.
T -1—d Golf Course.
576 2/22/2023 J oh -Buri:, PF G'if
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I—Idlove to see the golf course remain a golf course. l d' like the idm of sh—re p—with”
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disk golf course. Seems like big changes m can pumping big money int'. Please make every
team for their c'nsideati'n.Thankyou.m much for taking the brae to send yourth'ughts.
effort t'rave what we have. left'f'pen sp- in I -Townsend. W hat a jewel itis.
577 3/5/2023 David Johnson Council
As a relative newcomer in town (32 years) and as sora... wh"niy used the golf course twice I
find the idea that the golf course is"underutilized"t' be very U—b, WhMt bjective data
would define" under utilitzati' I One could argue that the Cherry Street Pari: is under utilized.
Same could be mid for the Bobby M.Garzaugh Pari:, I—Monne Pari:, Kah Tai tag.. Nature
Pari:, M,—W Field, Chetzem'ka Pari:, and even Qty Hail's C'uncii Chambers. But let us be
clear, there are enough tails that are"under utilized". There was an attempt t' i, eta,, um g,
which led t, a—a fexisting trails being created and disseminated. We "'t,,
ven have the
advantge'f Fart Warden State Pari:. Thom tails are definitely "under ufliized". Even s', there
are sthat I have not reen discussed. If we were t' convert the golf course int' nature tails
we would be giving mare space tar coyotes leading t' mare pet deaths and we would be creating
m' ,space for homeless--p—t, ala Kah Tai. Then we have the social aspects. The golf
.'pen air place tar people who have limited mobility. They, may be using golf mrts m
getfr'm h'lem hale but are"out in nature" and hanging'ut with friends. Getting nd'f the
c'u may create more racial is'iati'nf'rthis group. Then we have addrti'nai limitti'nsf'r
'.forth, young people in our community. We ran ail laud Me city for the "skate park"
(" thisp'under utilized and potentially threatened tar reusep), however not ail kids skate. Are we
going t' continue tike away .,.national spaces'."., we going t' recognize that Me
—j'nty" should not take away aRivity'pb— from --hy gr'ups?
PT Golf
Online Asa relative newcomerin town(32 years and assomeon. who only used the .If course twiceI
find the idea that the golf'ourse i,"underutilized" to be very problematic. What obj ,'rive data
would define" under utilitarian"? One could argue that the Cherry Street Pari: i, under utilized.
Same could be mid for the Bobby M'Garzahgh Pari:, Pape Monne Pari:, Kah Tai lagoon Nature
Pari:, Memorial Field, Chetzemoka Pari:, and even Qty Hail's Council Chambers. But let us be
clear, there are enough tails that are"under utilized". There was an attempt to incrmre _g'which led W a map of existing tails being created and disseminated. We even have the
advantage rt of FaWarden State Pari:. Thom tails are definitely "under ufliized". Even so, there
are ,that I have not reen discussed. If we were to convert the golf course into nature tails
we would be giving mare space tar coyotes leading to mare pet deaths and we would be creating
mo ,space for homeless enmmpment, ala Kah Tai. Then we have the social aspects. The golf
n open air place tar people who have limited mobility. They may be using golf nits m
getfrom holem hole but are"out in nature" and hanging out with friends. Getting rid of the
'ou may'reatemore—aii,olationforthis group. Then we haveadditional limitationsfor
on forth, young people in our community. We mm ail laud M, city for the "skate path'
(" tth'p'under utilized and potentially threatened tar reuse?J, however not ail kids skate. Are we
going to continue to take away recreational spaces arose we goingW recognize that M,
majority" should mat take away activity options from --ty groups?
----- The following may be helpful in your'on,ideation of the future of the golf 'aurin. There area
s ring of connected negative outcomes Ifthe Course i, reduced m fewer than 9 hales. A golf
wiM fewer than 9 hales would mat qualify as a regulation course mar be able t, support
th, USGA handicap t—
would, there fore, mot be able to hold turnament,. Im addition,
any shortening of the exirting9 hales would make the already short course less al— t the
a,age golfer. to 'king t ability t hold tournaments would eliminate play by m art golfers and
would make it im pombie W retsinahag (ified golf course makma mager who would dependonth—
mdse viable Musinesrun
, bs of ning the Course. Aim,
withouta lomi amregulation course, teady play by goMlfers to , High Schaal goiftmm would likely disband dheto the
rt of daily dri,, ,gtoDiscovery bay W p—t—Also, the -- of money mined
through goiftournament,ft,
'ha-- and scholarships would end. ($00,000 over the past 20
years) Finally, income from the golf course business presenHy serum, $75,000 or mare W the
�city. It omy knowledge, the only City owned land that earns m on,y for the Qty. If the Boit , lost as a business the City will have to pay for the upkeep of the 45+so acres of gas,
and trees. (ass ming M, Oty does mot want a 45+ acre brush Heid) Prerentiy, the Cohrs,
mage, and gth",oihnteersa,—htforatiart2 FTE,perymrtomamagethelamd. losing
the Course would mean=,,,
the Oty would have to pay for people to do that work, and the Qty
would have to invert in mowersthat cart many tens of thoumnds of dollars each. The Qty would
also be re,ponsvbi, for the total upkeep of the -,gat— syrt,m.PresenHy mart of M, Oty', pari:,
do _t.....
regular maintenance. Does the City really want to add to M, burden by
maintaining another 45+acres?
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mm for their c-,id,at,-. Thank you m much for -,hg the t— m send your thoughts.
I have logged yourinput into the process, and tree the Mayor did get back to you. We a re stili wort: ona clear
p,—, of the finances, but just t be clear, the golf course adds $10,000contactually W the city, but M, Qty
spends about $20,000 m water a and repairs. So, I am not —,where you are getting your $75,000 number. C-
y- let me know? Am I miming -h-? Thamk,l
PF Goif You are correct Ireally don't know where l heard, or thought l heard the la rger number. ) Thanks.
Online apologize forthat error. Iche,k,d and found the City has collected as —h a,$19000 when
them ,tbership was at its height All M, more reason t enhance and promote the Course so
addittnai fund, would flow to M, Qty a, golf income incrmses...
3/6/2023 Al-a—a Toombs PF Goif Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goif Course and
.triune Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Memwith M, Oty Council and planning
We need to p rotect green spaces in the co mmunity t preserve the Co m munity and vulture of team for their con -at— Thank you m m uch for taking the t— t send yourthought,.
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3/7/2023 Jane Which,, PT G,if Istr,.gy support dosing the g,lf.... s,a.d turning the sit'i.t, a fadlity that .,II Thank you so —h for y,urinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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the 1,11"'`gp,in4.1. Very few people actually play golf O n this course Itis usually CO mpletey t--- fhc—deab—Thank yo—I,f,rtakingthe b— m send yourthoughts.
empty. The course's own dab Shows that In 2021, a t—I of 143 people b-ghta pars t0 play
golf a nd a .other 19 bought a.._ I p—, 2, The proponents ,f the course pointba d,wment
purp,rtl.g t0 show that$700,000 hav been raised for. ha' ty Over the lout 20 years But there are
n0 details gNen a nd every single e -y is a round number, which -g— that n0 -e—&-,t b
d,wm'ntthis i.f„matt,.. 3. The..urs'is really m, re akin t0 p,,me property, nota public
'.ty. The n,, g,Itt.g public It excluded from the ..urse, even though It , public property.
Except for the Odd slkable day, non golfers are not MI—ed,. the property except via the
1, ,e,,y t0 use the mediocre ,emura.t, 4, Golfers have plenty ,f g,Itt.g,pp,T-b's nearby.
The Ofs..very Bay golf wurse it only 5 miles ,utSde ,f town, a nd there a re 3 ..urses Sequim. 5.
The golf course vres enormous natuaI resources, The data ,. the website shows water vsa ge,f
between 7.3 and 9 9 million gallons ,f water a yea r. Add t0 Mat the .ewssa ry chemicals t0
fertl�z' the specie I gravres needed for golf, and herbicides, etc. The nobo, that the wurse can
meh,w be la ndscaped t0acco —ochre both golf -1 Other uses such av walking mils seems
trained know that just wa Ilk.g down the meet next t0 the wurse can result in d,dgfng golf
balls.Ifu—were alternated, there.,. Id st111 need t0 be inf—tru "eincluding trails i'mlled
f„walkers, unless walkers are allowed t0 amble a nywhere O n the ma.iwred wurse Pleave
adopta plan tlratwlll allow more Port Townsend d0zen5— and vlstor5 too —t0 use thl5 high
profile, pub11C p,0p-,, There are many cholce5, I,dud,,g t -I,, eserdre Sia -,, f--'
markets, an outd....... ert venue, Mat would benefit more than the handful ,f plfe.s who vre
3/8/2023 Ann Sears PT Goff Please keep the Qty golf..urs'asa golf..urs'I Itis a such sweet, unique course rtght in Dur Thankyou so much f,ryourinput forth,, community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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yearsla lk'rand ld,Wt believe we need m0„[nils in mwn. W' al ready have this team for their —d—t— Thank yoummuch for to king the nme m send your thoughts.
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lf tour..., let's waform Mate a plan b make it succ'ssfull Let's get more people and youths out
there playing through good ma .agement that hav inwnttve b make the ..urse work I'm v✓Iling
t0 puts, ,ttmein t0 bainrt,rming ---g the tour.. and know many others are too. let's
keep our b'auttfuf gem ,f a golf course .,,kt.g.
3/11/2023 Terry E Smythe PT G,ff Another badid111—the City CO ... i Ther — Ily needs b be a C,— Watchdog Committee Thankyou s, much f,ry,urinput f,rthiscommunity discussion abut the Port Town send G,ff Curse and
Online t0 keepa closeeye,nthe halfvseyv✓tted ideav thatc,me Out,f this by government let's M,unbin View C,mm,ns. Ihave logged yourc,mmentsand will share Mem with Me Gty C,uncii and planning
se av the brtlliant idea Of w -g down all the poplar tt—along S -0n the — f,rtheir c,nsideati,n. Thank y- much f,rtakingthe b— W send y,urth,ught,
premise th t It...Id e...ung' more t"It— Currently it's spending money ,.another trMfi,
dre1,,. STms-instead,f„ —,,g the —bli,g rnee4 intown-ter filling MI the potholes. The
golf tour.. should be protected &preserved- not"developed".The vested interesK ,f city
..un embers needt, be publi'Iyp,rtedin dty hall- ter who mods b benefit f— y
proposal. W h0 are the —It—, ..ntncbrs downtown property owners who are pushing these
deal.
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The Port Townsend Golf C.urseis a n ignored tte„ure ,ghti, the h—t four be,utlftl City .For Thank you so —d for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send (.if Course and
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any of us, -Y golf course is a des--, golf course Ourwurse plays well even i, its grant Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share them with the Qty Council and planning
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s,e.f declive. Very few Courses i, this r,g,,, play„ wel lmthewettlmes.fthe year„our amf—hest—d—t—Thank youm much f.rtak,ngthe nine m send y—thoughts,
sedoes,a,PTGCn,tually dams I-IfOthes Coarses bewmealm.rt m. wetmphY. PTGC
Bothe exwptton ,even to the eMent that, golf art may be d-- - the fairways, a I golf
wurses have what is ailed, 90 degree rule duRng the vJnter........y.0 may dRve -the path
.ng the fairway —,I even v✓th the ball , and then you cross the fairway to your ball on foot.
This isa big deal if youareimpaired . r eightyyears o ld -f— not befog a des_d”
e , thins e—by whm... ..une could e—ly bel have often wondered why it is so
ignored bythecity,f,,wuntl—pe,ple the world over, playing g.lfts a way of life Wh,tif
PTGC became an open pallet f.rthe mane. -d-- of Port Townsend. A b.tanial garden golf
wurse,"organic golf wurse,, s,fe haven for birds, c, tte,, and nature lovers av it
ready isand could easily a nd cheaply be even m o re. When l travel to a place v✓th myf—ly,I
awaystake my clubs, -matter where I g., there is a golf wurse to play Itis always,
wnside__ Thee a re m o re dlks playing golf than ever before if not --ken,
_ a �eage of over 20% per yea rmcreare, lots and lots of young folks have picked up the g me in
aningful way. For the City government,(.,,employees) to ignore this,sset, undermine
a nd abuse it by l,ck.f are -funding, - pr.mntt is indeed, c—e by o missio n D. not
mess v✓th what you do not-det-,d. learn to play golf, you.,II learn mo re about yourself in
round th, n you ever thought possible Itis byfarthe mon ch,-gmg game ever invented
by man.
3/29/2023 Vincent Skidmore PT Goif
whete may l read the public --e- made by the folks who have.,tt-in7 You canfind ail the com mentsand other documents at www.cityofpt/envision.
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3/29/2023 Jack, Pallister PT (.if
It'ssucha lovely area,it would be nice if more l.al people we.e a b le to e,,,y it is it p.ssib le to Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend G.if Course and
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red— he size of the golf wurse a nd have so meareav avail, ble for bird watching,walking Mountain View Commons. I have logged your com mems and will share them with the Cty Cunni and planning
picnicbmg o r7 Definitely noon fay. r of development that w.. Id eliminate the green space but l team f—heirc—deab—Thank you.m muchf.rtak,ngthe nine m send yourth.ughts.
d, believe it should be available t, the public.
3/31/2023 MJ PT (.if
Wep—ed by the golf wurse,I,b-every d, I — totally againrt paying!.rand.-mg land Th-kyou s. m uch f.ryou d,t!.,this community dscus —, bout the Port Town send G.if Course and
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.rth.ee people can vse it fora game.. We neve. see more than four people. n the c.urre Mountain View C.mm.ns. Ihave logged yourc.mmentsand will share them with the Gty Council and planning
at the—eI eandth,t even happens arey.V.0 mun rewgni,ethatpe.plevh. areh,rd,t team fortheir c.nsideati.n.Thank yoummuch f.rta k,ngthe nmem send yourth.ughts.
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work, are bury alsing children, or being arebker , etc don't have tlme m sltand write
6about the, 'p Please Ietl.gl C, not the"vocal m -tv"sway y.ur.pinlons. Use
th t land for the purpose .f ALL the people .f Port T.wnsendl
4/1/2023 Carolyn Denton PT (.if
Please rep,,p-ethe g.lf..urse area ava public recrem— center and -k, wth —e land for Thank you s. —d f,, you d,tforthis community d,scussi.nab— the Port Townsend G.if Course and
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affordable h—mg. Mountain View C.mm.ns. I have loggedyourc. —tsand willsh—th—w,thth. CtyCounni and planning
team fortheir c.nsideati.n.Thank youm mu chf.rtak,ngthenineto Bendy,, r, h.uhts.
4/1/2023 -1 e.uiter PT (.if
Please KEE P the golf.... ee It is, vital-d,ff.rd,ble .ph - form ny senio rcb,,—.l don't Thank you s. m uch for yourin t for th,s community d,scussi-n bout the Port Townsend G.if Course and
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thmks.licitmg votes f.r..e Sde. r the .theris fair. Mountain View C.-- I have logged your comments and will share them with the Cty Counni and planning
team fortheirc.ns,dean.n. Thank you m mu ch f.rtak,ngthe nine m send y,, r, h.ughts.
4/2/2023 Bobbie Ha b—g PT Golf As we as wm nanny struggle to dead, what to do With Porc Townsend Golf Course, I su -
Oniine looking no hriher than Sequlm', Carrie Blak, Park toenvision what's possble. This ,leg-fly-
d—gn,d, ,nvfronm,nta Ily-frt,ndly, ADACw.sibl, pa rk packs so much into its 52 acres that it
nlys,rv,sth1,-tit', Co m munity. The two land t.... re simil"in",.the Porc Townrend
Golf Course (PTGC) sits on 58 acres; Carrte Blake Park is 52 acres. PTGC rerves golfers with a 9
holegolf nurse, driving range, putting green, and chipping area. By the Golf Course's own
In 202111 ly 212 rounds of golf were played—or slightly more than 1/2 round per, day.
Carrte Blake Park serves Children, athletes, seniors, bird watchers, gardeners, walkers, dog lovers,
nt—, fans, skateboarders, picnickers, and even v✓Idlife. Carrte Blake pa rk is abletoserve such a
WId,a g, of Sequin Cittz—a nd visitors because it hav so —y a mazing features, includinga
la —,garden, a botanic al garden, walking paths,N,kl,ball Cour t, --d picnic a nd BBQ
fa ht—, anamphitheater, shuffleboard a nd bocce ba II courts,a fishing pond, several duck
ponds, a stream, two playgrounds, playing Rends, a BMX track, a skateboard -k, a dog agility
e, three off-l—h dog parks, roccera nd roftba II fields, plenty of benches under shady t—,
and even an event Center With a con merely Idtchenl Visit this park anytime, even on a cold,
blustery day, and you'll see dozens of people and dogs e,,y,,g the dog parks, playgrounds,
wa Iktng paths, and ponds. I n warmer months, the park fairly buzzes ..th people enjoying the
es including picnics, barbecues, and thea tph th,at,r c forconwrtGolf wrms a re
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I -I unfrt"I'd ytothe environment, consuming lots of water y Id P,st111d1,. The Port
TIV-1nd Golf Club-- up to 9 million gallons of Port Townsend Qty water free of charge
ach year. In 111-1t, Carrte Blake Park wav d—gn,d av a water re -um demonstrattons project.
Much of the park Im'tlrrlga ted. Instead They are nat—I mulches. The pare of the park that
require irrt9atton re-vms water from the Qty. The well-designed ponds regularly at- cta large
vart,ty of birds and ducks, inCiuding molly,ds, pintails, buffl,h,ads, A-1-1.19,01, bald
eagles, and more. Port T— ...d's golf ... ... tainly deserve a place to play. They have It
D ---y Bay Golf Course is a n 18 -hole, 225acrewurse that GOP— 9111, 4.1 Wars out of 5
and reviewers call "one of the bestkeptse,reW In the whole state" and It's only 14 minutes from
4/9/2023 Cathy Beatty PT Goff I just vie wed the vi deo of the stakeholders meeting from Ma 11h 23, 2023. My q—t—is that
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Tai lagoon Nature Park of J..a...s just a, Toss the meet fro m the Port Townsend
GolfCourse, why is mak, g the g, If wurse a re pa rk" even a n optton orchoiw?Kah Talisa
bigger better Warm e park optton. And why a rent the townspeople —mg Ka h Tail Is it because
people don't fee l safe there? The' shou Id be m o re pahols thn Kah Tai -d a nd m o re
f"
city parks workers in Kah Tai. It would make more sense to have an open
a rea
on Kah Taiwrom grounds wtha Children's playground there, especially near where Chore Bankis now.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goff Course and
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team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the t— m send your thoughts.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Gaff Course and
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share themwith the Qty Council and planning
team fortheir consideation. Thank you m much fortakingthe nme m send yourthought,
4/15/2023 greg W@Yahoo . P—If 1—dlohnson says ltwell We haveenough"glorious"parks—rea Ch--oka Park and Fort Thankyou so much foryourinput forthis community discussion about the Port Townsend Goff Course and
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opp--ti,sfortheyoungand oidto 119,911, outdoorac[Turtles. Pieaseshowup... and tell the team for their con,ideation. Thank you.m much for to king the t— m send yourthoughts.
city that none of those options are what we want. W, want w keep the goif course. w, want to
have a livable city tar mare than jurt those with lots of money w control the politics in our fair
city. D—d Johnson
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5/3/2023 Peter—y- —y ofth, puMccomments.While, --d,hgto the . . . 017- of respondents W the
1—ly ry pp-ld aI— o, hybrid uses of the golf course, the lack of —b,,ty and
maginat
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of aid ideas, nothing new, -th,hg directed -- mI — —t p,,,,,hg — -—
A, pp-,-missed.Iby a, a friend --fly sold, "designed f,, the h—, not the h—
It , dorm — that —,—M , space and p-, are of —Il -- when weighed -—t
the lack of h—mgin aur city. One of the — cited —,on that people —, h", " the
ab--, of -td., --t—M —,,t— and --i beauty. Df Ml of the —.— t, y—
,, the ,, tiling —..
.. the p�.. f,— -----t—of h,gh school d1. Th, h,.
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affordable -d. ThM their number ane
f,, bath the golf — -d Mt. Vl— — an ., ignore them? It time w -I, w the
children. Th, arer,ghtfOy and urgently --- about whether urgently d �b' , t hy will
b, able w live h,,,.
W, have a —p—blay W at least pl-ld, 1. 1
Our legacy,o favi, not Ily
The entire golf _"�Ild, t, :I PI -11 residential community, 1 --
mg
,,ty housing 'tyi,, _d typ"and"',of affordability, —II ,-
setting.like dy --d property— housing an remove the—t of — ft.
'="t,g publicly
the .— 1, 11 't h,opportunity f,, h— ownership df,-bi,
Th— could b, of tiny hy homes adjacent
w -p—t— y --d and managed —II
-- looted near --tya�d .. and--- --- pi, hhduplexes and
cottage housing— "d by —Ik,bgt a'I, boarding h—,, with community ka—,l could
the needs of —y —gl, talks. One —= --pii,%this
could b, the —t— ata
M, Development Authority h— b, w develop
housing consvrtent with a
—t- If criteria. The
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_d"h__'_'t'thntg_'health care and
li—P-. The development community
that would
need to b, metare aesthetics, affordability,
diversity of h—,hgtyp,, and styes and being build a, d— W net ...o as passible -th,,
-t,- .-Id r,I— w the selection of potential --- weighted In f—, of such thing,
Y--- --,t —0--,d t, —, and I —ht t, thank you f,—k,hgth,-- .,,t and ,end It. I h—
... t IT along W our planners and they will consider it. Thank, -,n f,, being --d in the
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-th,, —,- .-Id r,I— to the selection of potential residents weighted in f—, of such
things a,, —d, and local -- diversity — equity, loaf —pi- -t — abihty W
partici p— in —t—t— — d—i—. It —, w — that within — great --ty we
have — y the talent — --- w and —,b— t ' the
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developmdevelopmentata p'j f th,t-t— W, need W mobilize this —,gy, Th,"th,' i,-t7t
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t 11pt 1 - options in the development ---
mill al leaders. W, 1— - - �f this
Th " 'g and- g ",,t,,d, th' " s` , ,q,,,,d - — ,,
tt, ,g th—h, lack f h,,,,,g
is an existential crisis f,, the city of Port T,.-- Itis time w b, bald and truly creative.
4/11/2023 PT GoIff
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because people keep building onthe - The golf se should j- -y h— it
Without people t, -y, t, build it, s, j- leave it 8, it is I FM —e.h— elbe t, ,Wyl
4/12/2023 .—y PT Goff
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have e hiking, biking t--- fh—d—t— Th- - —I, k y� f— — mend �Ibbgth, time y— ht,
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The golf course �— — much .8te, -,We, other —b— of the phbl,,, 8 d , -de-dh,ed, Thank you so —I, f,, y— -t f,, this community d--- ab— the P- T— send Goff C—,, and
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4/15/2023 Jeff Anderson PT Goff
'd prefer fit, the p= p ub, fun ding f,, golf deafly, it an e— a green space Thank y- —, f,, y— -t f,, this community d--- about the P- T— send Goff C—,, and
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,khe, more b e ef, `81 8y,lh8l p8,e —Id be ,ed 81k,,g 8 ,81by dog p8,1,
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4/21/2023 Ed.- Th.p,. Jr. PT Goff
Thank you so —I, f,, y— -t f,, this community d--- ab— the P- T— send Goff C—,, and
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4/26/20235ue M iiliken&Kelly D,, PT GoIf
W,CA,,—of the City of Port Townrend a,d wou Id like t, --t o n the„visio n golf course Thank you so —h for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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opt,—On,�m—d-of the different opttons put forward Concept 2a A Space for Nature Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with Me Qty Council and planning
makes the mart sense to us we a re unable to attend efth,r M,m d,g M -t Word,, team for theirc—deab—Thank y -u much for td king the nm, m send your thoughts.
Commons or the virtual m„tt,g on May In so would like to make sure our votes for that
imcept are noted W, are espec(a f ly interested in parervi,g M, p-- and the pond, both
4/26/2023 Marl: eaciawski PT Goff
portant natual areas.
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Whentalding to neighbors a bout what we should doth the golf wurs,,,veryone wants to Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, ,d will share Mem with Me Qty Council and planning
onsensusof,- halt mfortheirconsideorlon.Thankyoummuchfo,tdkingth,b—t,, endyourthoughts.
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that entails iso' wursethe p roblem. Mort g,stto,sare plans a bout how to improve
the land for M, beneftt of the human -I bythey have the greatest aftt,ity to, However the la nd
needs to be considered also. Afte.all, itis part of Port Townsend too. This afternoon I walked
and the golf course a bit for the first ttme way not sure where I could walk so it way a little
Kcky as did not wantrointerfere mh the golfers fu n. Myft,, ,gg-l_, wouldbe to have
d,f dwaIlb grails sopeople could walk a round a nd get to know the land, M, views a nd the
plants. W hen mare of us know the land better think we would wme up Wth more thoughtful
ideas of whal.1re we would like to see forth, golf wurse Whil,walld,g, Ithoughtaboutth,
Nattv,s who us,dto portage their w noes from th--t to the Bay overland Howdidth,y do
that? There is no I0,gera water connectton to the golf co—, land Ka h Tai Lagoon looks good
from a distance, but itis stagnant The golf courre is Kind of stagna nt too. This connectton needs
to be re-established so the land can be what it n„dto be and then perhaps we ca, f 911, out
future development that Wil beneftt all Port Townsend
4/26/20231andin eonng PT Goff
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I attended the open houre on AprtI 26, Thanks very m uch for he 1pi,g Me wm—by parttc(pate Mountain View Commons. I have logged your com m,ntsand will share Mem with Me Qty Council and planning
m the process.Iway leaning toward optton 2a, but afte, ee,,g the elfservfng attitude a nd team fortheirc—d—t—Thank you1 m—I, fortd kingthe nme W send yourthougIt”
hea, gthe vocal minortty suppo,ttng optto n 1, my Wfe a nd ,..support going straight to
optton 1, 1 am not sure why optton 1 is stt11 on Me table, av it —ked - 7 on the survey and did
no make it atoll in the high school survey resulh.
4/27/2023 James K. Ratchford PT Goff
that this m ea nt that other uses were wanted Iknow fo,o,e Mat this me, lb, -do, is not howl Thank you so much for yourinput for this co —ty discussion about the Port Town send Goff Course and
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me, p,etedthe qued- l wa,ted opttons to be entertai,ed. heck,who knows mhcertainty Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Mem with Me Qty Counciland planning
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whatis the best vse for Me property in terms of wmmunity needs let alone avpiattons. ,am fortheirc—deab—Thank yo—I,fo,tdkingthe nm, w send yourthoughts.
Nonetheless,av of now bayedon f,„seeble,-a,dthe possibility of other ures being located
,where, now vote to keep it av it is aside from %,ding a new manager and opportunities fora
prtvate invertor to improve Me property for golf and other 11-11ty efforts. An architect by
inclinatton is biased towa rd cha,gesa nd i,novattondthey are a,chite-I I find that taking vs on
the carIotand s,o gusfvs[4 spruced up cars and notaddressing the wrtincluding
anda formal"business plan"is unfair. It is espe— Ily unfai,if ,he, pl,—fol
nspoat8',, a ofp,ovidedthat do not require buying a"n car. While pas"bly
"polittllly" wrrect t, ask High School -de- what they wa,t..g— me a break. This is a
omplet —e and why aysume that they are "prepared" in any way to determine best v,e for
the coflecttve com munity. A w, of mine, quite b,ght, capable, and responsible way eager to
ve Port Townsend while he way in High School, but two— ago, in his late 30s moved back
Wth hisfamily and way mart thankful forwhat the 11 munity offers. Forweight to be g,—to
what High School Mde,ts want or vote fo,.. makes no rens, While polittcal issues beneftt from
democattci, 1, there are complexissu,s bayed o-pertise,-pert„w, —dlb,—al
precedents li__ realittes, shared values, that --t p rofessional-pett—anddisuet—
W hire thin k itis —e that the City Council oversee City employees and com munity planning to
be co,nnent Wth com —by 81— and well-being, I'm okay Wth profe--Is, not high school
rtWe- o, those mart vocal to wme to the best decisionlavtly, if one fowses pll—dy on the
eof us,age".„might miss the value of a public service. Fo r example, it would be sillyto
bay, the police budget o, allotment of ,esourres bayed on the number of Cit1z„s who directly
�,tenaw wrtth o, beneftt from police acttvittes. W hat numbers of „side- use dog pa I"? what
numbers vse the pickle ball wurts or the sv✓m ming -110 bviously, having access to a service
yen if it involvesa minortty of the populatton can bra beneftt for everyone. At lean those who
enfoy golttng etc. a re W Ming to pay something font How about the other rervic,s the plans
4/28/2023 Jessica Randall Pi Goff
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I think it would be gr eat rai—We 8 con -8—y, a Flower garden and a,attve pia It 98 Iden. A Mountain View Commons. I have logged your com mems and will share Mem with Me Qty Council and planning
niceeampl, of8w,servatory is here. https //www.-I—ee rpa,kconservatory.o ,g/ The team fortheirc—deab—Thank you m—I,fortakingthe nme w send yourthougIt”
,—ervatory can be a real oa¢is durt,g our long, "Id, da rk.me-
5/1/2023 Dee Sweeney PT Galt
Online First, than k you for putting so much in f--, out there regarding the pot—W fate of the PT
Golf Course. golf there weekly on Tuesday mornings --% the PT W omen's Golf Club. Our club
ha, been follovJng the'Envision''e� s a nd we very much a pp retia ate all your ha rd wo rk. We
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ally are in favor of P__'Ig Me propertya, a golf course in a, m uth a, P'_b le.l(vst
606 ✓ to inform you Mat l have to l ked to many others, who have not been fo I — gtheevents av
closely. They are both golfers and non -golfers and they overwhelmingly support keeping the golf
e, be it hyb rtd or not However, —Y of Mem are totally Confused by howexactly t, "vote"
for their preference on line Therefore, doubt you'll acquire an actuate survey of everyone's
✓.I Wshlhada rolutton to offe..Jvst wa ntedto lety-knowwhat l have beenobse,f ,
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5/1/2023 Connie Ross PT Golf Okay, you have my attentton now. I fust learned that Me gat6y p-- at Me golf wurseis NOT
60J Online part ofthe"opt, o ns'v—b,h,y This is a h,,,,,,, Wt—Ily S,,f,— plot of land a nd mart be
emp hasized and protected Will appreciate your eff-rc to put this a, a cental part of what
needs to be preserved
5/3/2023 EWaife PT Galt
608 Online No housing development whatsoever o n the p ,ty, 0o not let housing get a foot,, Me door.
0o not request 81sKeep green space-reduce--tof golf tourse(OK t, Ihnt oat,
d ang, and make -- 9 holes, and put in trails and picnic area,.
5/3/2023 Jon, M Blanchard PT Golf
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For the proposed 6 units of housing for theZoned Golf Course property, s, had theidea of, other
than al"
'g a prtvate developer to wine in, build, and sell there homehowaboutif Me Qty
donatedthe property, or worked wtM Habitat for Humanity to build there 6 units. That would
help to ensure that Mese units 11,'AFFO ROAB LE' housing - which is what the in inanity a¢ked
for to be built on this property. It would also help W keep the homes going to'local' people who
w ,ll pick up a hammer a nd p-,,,tpate in Me building other than those folks lined up f— out of
wn w th tach who could buy up -y new housing at top dollar. The homes our tom inanity has
609 coked to be built on the Golf Course Property we.e'affordable homes for our local workforce'.
That would be approximately $350,000 or less (to buy), o, —, Idnd of rental units at $1,000 a
Doth or —(Mat's affordable rent in Me Qty —,d -,g the high cost of City utllittes).
Remember, oar Health 0epaaments 2019 Survey indicated that oar mwn ha, a lowe. Ma n
avenge media m income for WA state Prtmary wncerns of teens and seniors alike in this survey
re poverty andtheintrearzing unaffordabilityofhousingin Jeff—,County. Allowing 6 new
homes onthat property to be bought up for top dollar—h to m o re ne --to town would
absolutely be a defeat of purpose -d a slap upside the head to all who've fought for Mese
homes to be built at this lot t -
Thank you so much toryourinput forth,, community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Mem with Me Qty Council and planning
team for their c—d—t—Thank you m much for to king the t— m send your thoughts.
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Mem with Me Qty Council and planning
team for their can„ deat,on. Thank you m much for to king the nine m send yourthought,.
Thank you so much toryourinput forth,, community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Memwith Me Qty Council and planning
team for their can„ deat,on. Thank you m much for to king the t— m send yourthought,
Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Golf Course and
Mountain View Commons. I have logged your comments and will share Memwith Me Qty Council and planning
team for their can„ deat,on. Thank you m much for to king the t— m send yourthought,
5/3/2023 Peter—yun PT Goif tWhile, according m the wnsultant,74%of respondents to the survey supported Thank you so m uch for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Town send Golf Course and
Online or hybrtd us es ofthe golf course, the lack of creattvity a rid imagfnatton in I-—rdm M ountdin View Commons. I have logged yourcommentsand will share Mem with Me Qty Council and planning
thore alternattve ores is disappointing. These oph— are just reha¢hes of old ideav, nothing new, team fortheir consideation. Thank you m much fortakingthe rime m send yourthoughts.
nothing directed toward solving our mart pressing and urgent issue An opportunity missed Itis,
serfrl end recently said,"desgn ed for the haves, not the have -l'' tis dear to—that
additional open space -d pa Lks a re of small wncern when weighed against the lack of housing
Trisur
o City. One of the mart Cited I ---Mat people move here is the abundance of outdoor
r vd --1al beauty. Of a l l of the answers to your vey the mosttelling
a e the resria ac a riponses team high school -dents. The next genentton of adulh in our mom munity
wan o e afford able housing on this land Thatis their number o ne choice for both the golf
and Mt View. How can we ignore them? Itis h— W Ii — to the thud— They are
rtghtfully and urgently concerned a bout whether they wtll be able to live here. We h-
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ave a
responsibility to at 1-1provide —, opportunities Our legacy so farts not very admiable The
re golf wurse needs to beco me a pia nned resid— mommunity, emberGrog a vartety of
housing styles -d sizes, types and levels of affordability, —1,ple co ncepts in a park like --g.
Convertlng publicly owned property into houSng can remove the cost of land from the eq--,
while Z preserving Me opportunity for home ownership and affordable rentals. There could be
clusters of tiny homes adfacent to wap—l—ly owned and managed multifamily apartments
oated neo rcom munity gardens and playgrounds; rownhoures, duplexes and cottage housing
mon cted by walking mils; boarding h__ With community Kitchens mould serve the needs of
many Sngie folks One avenue to accomplish this could be the creation of a Public Development
Authortty whose mission would be W develop housing wnsi- Wit ha maMxof c,It,Yia. The
Authortty could convene a design —petition With a signsKa nt prtze W create a model housing
munityWith integated heaIM ca re, racial services child ca re and eldersup11 The
development crtterta that would need to be met are aesthetics, affordability, diversity of h—mg
types and styes -d befog build av close W net zero av posSble. Further-te- would relate to
the selection of potential residents weighted in favor of such things ` need, a rid local re'dency,
5/7/2023 Peggy St Clair PT Goif Thank you so much for yourinput for this community discussion about the Port Townsend Goif Course and
Online It—Ily support keeping PT golf marse as is -d putting money Into updatlng and upkeep. It's not Mountain View Commons. I have logged your co —tsand will share Memwith Me Qty Council and planning
only used by locals butdso by the high school team. believe It'sa daw for some people vistlng team fortheir consideation. Thank yoummuch Porta kingthe rime tb send yourthoughts.
the area l l PLEASE don't Nrn It into a dog Park or walking trallsl W e have enough of thosel l
5/9/2023 Sdnda Stowell engegeptcity l have been told that the current golf course no longer requires orvses a ny Cry WBterfor You in quired about the wateruageand cortatthe Goif Course. Theaddrtion of the well has helped Hnanciaily,
ofptus irrtgatton. Iwav mldthatinnead, all l91''.ler is now wmingfroma recently provided but the cit IIs dsabout $30,OOOa .links ded inciuore anon user
s[his hue? If so, i,thiswell on site'. Is this level ofwate,usege sustainab le forour local Yrti pen yarin water provi dethe g gedndthenthe
moa ertalbe? Thank you for your hel p With my queh_and concerns, aNs mst oveall(including msr forwater). I hope this informa0on is hel pful.
5/12/2023 Joni M—bard For the proposed 6 units of housing for the Zoned Goif Course property, l had theided of, other
than dilowingd private developer to comein, build, and sell there homes, how about If the Qty
donated the property, or --dwith Habitat tar Humanity to build there 6 units. That would
help to ensure that these units are' AFFORDABLE' housing -which is what the community asked
for to be built on this property. It would also help to keep the homes going to'l—a people who
MH pick up a hammer and participate in the building other than those talks lined up from out of
o
with ash who could buy up any new housing at tap dollar. The homes commun
aur ity has
dcked to be built on the Goif Course Property were'dffarddbie homes tar aur loci workforce'.
Thdtw-Id be approximately$350,000 or less(to buy), or mm e kind of rental units dt$1,000 a Thanks for the email. Great idea. l will pa ss it along to our designers, l really do think this was the intent,but
oath or less (Mat s affordable rent in the Qty considering the high cart of City utilities). per haps they can be little more InIt— a good day.
Remember, aur Health Departments 2019 Survey indicted that ourmwn has a lower than
dveage m ed— income for WA state. Primary concerns of teens and seniors alike in this survey
re poverty and the increasing undfforddbihty of housing in Jefferson County, Allowing 6 new
homeson that property to be bought up for top dollar ash to mare newcomers to town would
absolutely be a defeat of purpose and a slap upside the head to ail who've fought for these
homes to be built at this location.
5/7/232 Bobbie fl s (firing email,
There are veryfew times when dedsons ce ns ha acommunity's life for geneations to mme. Thankyou so —h foryourinput forth,, community discussion a bout the Port Town send Golf Course and
In New York City,,uch a mom tint camein 1853 when city leaders decided to dedimte 775 acres M ountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, and will share Mem with Me Qty Counnl and planning
right ,Me middle of the city for Centai Pa r*. In Portland, Oregon, in 1948, vi„unary lea ders,et team forthe,rc—deah— Thank yoummuch for to king the rime to,end your thought,.
aside 5,D00+acres overiock,ng the city and mer for Eorert Pari:. Bath bald moves shaped there
sand benefit count,,„geneanons. The decisions we make about Me future of Me Part
Towm-d Goif Course w,ii shape aur community for years tc came. W e currently have a rims`
, 9-hole golf course rarely in need of up grades that serves, by rt, awn rtat...c,, only a small
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portion of our zens Eormonth, Qty staff and elected o h c,, have engaged citizens from ail
walks to get their Input Inco whatwe think should happen to this beautiful greenspace. They've
conducted town halls, Zoom meetings, a stakeholder committee, In person and online surveys
meetings with interested group,, ema8 campaigns, etc. Kudos to them for asking citizens what
we want. So far, mare than threeyuarters of citizens want to. 1) prererve this �aluabi'
greenspaces 2) offeram—t— like tails bike paths, dog pari:, an amphitheater, sport, courts
and affordable hou,ingthat serve many mare citizens Mat those whd currently benefit. Same of
the _tteiling survey results came from Partiawnsend high mhaai student,. Ali of them
med affordable housing included in Me plan. None,uggerted golf iso goad um forth„ space.
If the Poiowns
rtend Goif Course pro�eR is m truly be a legacy pro�eR, we mart plan tar
notj— those of us here dday. Golfers shouldn't be left—, indudI,g the
high school student golfers. J art 15 minute, away, D„covery bay Goif Club offers gorgeous 18
holes with prices mmpaable to PortTownsend's Golf dub. There's no reason we can'tthlnk
boldlyand create PortTownse.dT, own Central Park. Thank you for your good work and for
mnnga bout our beautiful town.
5/8/2023 Tom
IT Carrie-I've been vayfor a bit and catching up on the planning for golf course and Thankyou so —b foryourinput forth,, Community d,scus„on a bout the Porc Townsend Goif Course and
Commons possible changes. Isther any dim—i- of inorpotating a children's Mountain View Commons. I have logged your --t, andwf,h— Mem with Me Qty Counnl and planning
playground?. The recently installed one at IT Carroll Park is so nice. I play Pickleball, but team forthe,r con„deah—Thankyou.m much fortak,ngthe rime to,end yourthought,
ourts
frankly, don't have any problem getting court time, so I don't think We need snore co—
((If We do, It Is a need for Indoor courts for W inter/rai ney weather).:)
5/8/2023 EPoui,cen email
I'm writingab— Goif Course Got,. 2—,peclfil lh, removing thedming ange. The m ost Th, nk you so much for yourinput for th„com—tyd,scus„on a bout the Port Townsend Goif Course and
im portant use of a drivingange ,,teaching. WiIo driving ange how do you teach new M ountain View Comm ons. I have logged your comm tint, andwf,h— Mem with Me Qty Council and planning
goifers� N of by playingnn the rime td yourthought,
the courre, bemuse begiers hit bail, ail over the place. New goifersare team for their—d—h— Thank yoummuch for to king ,en
learning to hit a bail1,68 in diameter hundreds of yard,. They need a nice, If, downy 191, And
they need to ha a lot of balls. We learn piy,_, m ovement, by r ,ht'on, arida driving ange i,
where new golfers get Mat repetition. Without a driving ange Me g.1i community i„e —hy
handicapped in teaching new golfers and growing Me spore Then Mere', the revenue loss.
Besides the revenue tram charging for each bucket of balls Mere i, the fact that lessons could no
longer be offered. No income far golf pro, no new customers for the cd--.Gph.2 may look
goad on paper, but it would be dimmer for the future of the g.1i community. There he, to be
a placetc learn Me,pc t we have ane. Why take it away when it is so..senna, to the health
of the sport.
5/12/2023 Parona Vaughan
have looked at the survey on po,nbieuses of the golf course property,eveai time, and have Thank you so much for yourinput for th„com—tyd,scus„on a bout the Port Town send Goif Course and
been unable to,Tpl,t, It Why? bemus.. t doesn't address the "elephant, n the room",the Mountain View Commons. I he-.your com merit, and will share Mem with Me Qty Council and planning
need for affordable hounngin ournty, The consultant--d to have m,,redthemart team fortheirc—deah—Thankyou.m much fortsk�ngthe t— to,end yourthought,.
important pass tic use of this space—for additional housing for the people who work here and
w to live here. I mw only a few housing unit, projected in there aitematrves. The area may
ot bezoned for housing now, but It's the dry tilt designates zoning, and any of there 53 acres
could be r.znned. teavingaddIt,onai housing out of Me picture and proponng only parka,ke
mmpl-lly misres the poi nc Yes, I'd like to see some walking trails and yes, I'd like to
keep the pond and the wildflower p--, but I don't see how creating our version of New York's
Central Park is the best use of this entire space. Please don't squander this once-Ina-geneation
appartun,ty tc da this right.
Small Group Meetings Feedback
November 2022 — January 2023
Black Lives Matter JC ( 4 participants)
• Center of town, connection with farming, resilience
• Interested in climate change
• Prairie, history needs to be considered.
• Affordabe housing needed
• Community space: open, outdoor, gathering areas
• Community garden
• BIPOC and Queer: need physical space
• Work with tribes on how best to use the land.
• Food Resiliency
• Space should be used in multi -generational way, accessibility for all
• Community gathering area, add a community kitchen
• Consultation with the land itself, possible give back to tribes
• Envision this space for the next 50 years
• Honor the camas field.
• Access to community/arts/third place
• Open natural space in the middle of town: free yoga, cligong, youth activities, accessible art
Parks, Recreation, Tree, Trails Advisory Board, Port Townsend ( seven participants)
• Whatever the plan is, we need to make sure that there is some enforcement or teeth behind
managing Hasting pond and wetland.
• For feedback and increased public engagement, consider Nextdoor, repetitive announcements,
PDN, PT Leader, Library.
• The advisory board would like to volunteer to do intercept events around town.
Recovery Cafe: ( four participants)
• Make it similar to HJ Carrol park
• Add a childrens and seniors walk/trails/accessibility
• Environmental education
• Picnic tables/benches
• We have two other golf courses in this area, make this property accessible to all, not just golfers.
• It feels like a private club on city land.
• Create something to benefit the whole community
• Create connections: to/from Kah Tai
• Outdoor gathering areas/theater/movies
• Affordable housing
• Add water features
• Keep the prairie
• Community gardens
• Employment for young people
• Social sustainability: jobs, housing, amenities.
• Best practices from other communities
• Grow food!
Jefferson County Parks and Trails Commission ( 6 people)
• Connection to Kah Tai important
• Personal significance: the golf course
• Generate income for nonprofits through golf course
• Expand it for the usage for other amenities
• Accommodate more uses than just golf
• Only affordable golf course around, Keep it affordable
• Usage feels exclusive
• There are a lot of other golf courses nearby
• Desperately need an artificial turf soccer field, massive turnouts in the summer for soccer
Local sports groups( 4 people)
• Avid birder: valuable habitat for winter waterfowl. Same as Kah Tai.
• Skiing in the winter
• Use the gym, and used to use basketball courts outside but they were taken out. Also, athletic
field was taken out.
• Play pickleball
• Need Sport fields
• A lot of opportunity has been taken away: Le. dog park took away field. When Salish Coast was
built: five fields taken away
• Major demand on Blue Heron.
• Memorial Field is used by youth.
• 200-300 kids for fall and spring soccer
• Salish Coast Elem school: field is not avail for public
• City does not own an athletic field. Most sports happen at HJ Carroll: 3 sizes.
• A lot of interest in turf fields, expanding use to year around. County closes fields in mid-October.
• Need lights on the turf fields.
• Golf course is like a private club. there is a great course at Discovery Bay
• Lights, even without turf, opens up options for adults when they get off work.
• Bicycles/walking trails
• Bicycle skills areas: jumping, golf course perfect because of grades; bike jumping ( ie.
Bellingham, Canada)
Maritime Center ( 2 people)
• Don't see a direct connection to their mission
• This golf discussion: old versus new. The new always win, the old loses.
• Aren't there Other opportunities to golf? Cost?
• Miniature, pitch and putt
• Par 3
• Housing
Rotary ( 20 people)
• 95 years of operations
• Question: highest and best use of property: community outreach, stakeholders process: pool
• Question: Are there deed restrictions that call out that it needs to be used as a gold course?
• Answer: The deed restrictions only list the land as used for municipal purposes.
• 59 acre consultant: stated it was a jewel in the middle of town.
• What about an MPD?
• Lots of research , combine the projects
• Golf course study: Usable space at the golf course, keep 9 holes, open to suggestion
• Question: Can you close the golf course a couple days a week and open it up for walking?
• Answer: The golf course is not sustainable now, and in order for it to be sustainable, it would
need to operate 7 days/wk.
• Rotarians: Number issue: keep in perspective, community needs multiple activities: pickleball,
boating, cross country skiing, dog parks, golf.
• No signage for golf course
• Use for open space should be determined by the future
• It needs to be open space, prairie,
• Mountain View property: community center, develop this plan to a humble approach, the Y
project was brought down because it was pretty ambitious.
• Dog park, needs a stewardship group
• Recyclery: in need on the margins
• Centrally located on bus line, accessible, price is right, not a membership.
• Pool: Doesn't have to have everything. Regulation size lap, deep water area, good building,
doesn't have to have water slide.
• Golf course left alone self sustaining asset
• Mountain View: improve on it
Chamber ( 1 person)
• Members have a split perspective
• Place making perspective: Recreation for families: we don't have this. No central area for
families
• People don't come here to play golf, its only 9 holes. If I am going to spend money and time to
play golf: I will go to the two other courses.
• Mini golf, driving rage: yes.
• 9 hole golf course: not a destination course. We have two 18 hole courses within 30 minutes.
• Population shifting, more people here under 50, people who have been here for a long time
don't see it, the change.
• Can't market it, 9 hole course is not attractive
• We could possible bundle it, but it is not a draw.
• Golf as a sport hasn't carried on through the generations: the city cannot fix that.
• The Chamber has not received a question in four years, " where is the golf course"?
• Golf course operator or Golfers have never asked us to save the course ... never use the tools for
marketing. They list their events, but don't use the tools.
• Need a family gathering area. Quality of life for families. Economic development component,
more than a tourist community, something the residents can use: walking trails, light up trails.
• Golf only improves quality of life for some people, not the majority of people.
• Keep the restaurant/bar/music/create a band stand, complement For Worden.
• Vision : place making.
UCCF (3 people)
• Trails — create connection trails so people can use this land.
• Affordable housing —we need more housing in town.
• Something like Greenlake in Seattle — par 3 course, or mini golf.
• Need area to conduct outside church
• Meditation place
• Green Space
• Similar to HJ Carrol
• Repurpose space
• If golf courses were to stay, put in disc golf, so there is more variety
• With climate change and water usage, seems use of a lot of resources for the golf course
• Scottish golf course: open space, free, all natural, community course
• Community Gardens
• Grow food for foodbank
TransJeff ( 1 person)
• Housing — need more
• Need safe gathering spaces
• Accessible green space
• Centrally located, could be nice for everyone in town.
• Safe area
• Love having the space
• Kah Tai/Golf Course, navigate around them right now ... need to create Kah Tai to be safe, and
Golf Course to be open.
Kiwanis (25-30 people)
• Keep the golf course, but figure out how to open it up for walkers.
• Multi -use with golf
• Lots of questions about MPD. Taxes, bonding.
• Shouldn't the community decide on the land use if it impacts taxes?
• How are we going to phase it?
• Are we going to create big grand plans that are not achievable?
• If we do create a phasing plan, can we keep the golf course open until the very end?
• When considering the finances, consider the funds that get donated to nonprofits from golf
tournament.
• Use existing open space to its maximum capacity. We don't need more open space in town.
Salish Coast elementary parent pick up: ( 60-70 people)
• Passed out 50 flyers for open house
• Community garden
• Open to every body in the community
• Affordable housing
• JUMP inclusive playground
• Trails and connections
• Pump track
• Keep golf course
• Activities for kids
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SMALL USER GROUP MEETINGS
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Meetings
Location: City Hall Project: PT Golf Course/Mt. View Time: 9:00am-2:45pm
9:00 — 9:30am: PTA
Annie Bartos- Co -Presidents -one position open
Candace Mangold — Vice President
• Golf course property is in close proximity to the schools (High School, Middle School) and well
positioned to become a hub for kid activities
• Kids use the pool and bike around the campus
o Sports at rec center/ Rec league bball happens at Mt. View
o Currently no swim lessons available
• Needs additional connector bike lanes to feel more safe
• Teaching children an ethic of public space
• Greenlake is a good example of a community park with bathhouse and theatre
• PT parks could use more nature play opportunities for kids
• Good opportunity to include community garden
o Nurture the idea of growing food
• YMCA is the only after school care program in town
• Library has a kids hour
• Important for the town to have public spaces that kids feel comfortable and welcomed
• Community center uptown is in rough shape
9:45 — 10:15: Agricultural Perspective
Celine Santiago — Port Townsend Preservation Alliance
John Gunning — Colinwood Farm
• Sustainable farming is supported by a small population; we should leave something for them
• Vision of providing an education center on the GC prop.
o Center could provide community space, environmental education programs, sustainable
farming, art opportunities, trade learning opportunities
o Provide space to prepare community/ young people for the kind of environment this will
be in 50 years
o Kingston Library is an example of this working well
• Leave a legacy for the next generation
o Bring people together
• Port Townsend community is splintered; need to help people thing holistically about the future
• GC prop should be better connected
o Bridge connection to future shy acre farm development
o Mimic agricultural landscape on fringes of property
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• Expanding permaculture - there is a lack of understanding
• Succession plan for farm properties
o Train next generation of farmers
o Farm survey indicated farmers make about $5-$7/hr.
• Transition plan for GC property
• Housing is a community need
• Do not see a lot of golfers on a day-to-day basis
• Plan should be intentionally intergenerational
o Include play area, youth space etc.
10:30 — 11:00am: Fort Worden Public Development Authority
David Timmons- PDA Executive Director
David King- PDA board member
• Golfers feel empowered as if they own the golf course
• Golf club is only about +/- 100 people. Many have aged out.
• Additional group of people who don't golf but will be supportive of the golf course remaining
because it has always been there
• Golf course well has now been connected. Water has high sodium content and may require re-
seeding the course
• Plan for Mt View to be city/county campus
o Moving police dept/ food bank/ nonprofits to Mt. View was significant effort that they feel;
was successful
• History of golf course being under poor management
• There have been other past attempts to discuss transitioning the gold course to a different use
o Golfers have shown up angry and entitled in past public forums
• Would like to see the property become a city park.
• Prior efforts attempted to create one parcel.
• EPA study was conducted on site previously. Identified funding opportunities.
11:15 — 11:45am: Olympic Pride
Ellen Michael Caldwell - Executive Director
Kate Mack- Assistant Director
Cyndi- Volunteer
• Would like a space for youth to hang out
o youth programming
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o safe and inclusive space
• Larger outdoor spaces
o Last years pride event brought around 600 people
• Important to create and support intersectional open space
• Community center space for youth
11:45 — 12:15am: Housing Support Network (HSN)
Liz Revord - Network Director of HSN
Jane Armstrong
Jaime Maciejewski— Executive Director of Habitat for Humanity of East Jefferson County
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• Looking at the greatest community good
• Port Townsend has a significant housing crisis
o Very limited affordable housing
o All age groups/ demographics affected
o It is difficult to fill positions at many jobs because people often cannot afford or find a
place to live in town
• Would like to see a portion of the gold course property considered for housing
1:30 — 2:OOom: Golf Club
Tim Caldwell
George
Bruce
Tim
Lynn
Jim
Michael
Barb Matter
• Concern about length of lease
• Thinks open house is a bad format
• Neither side is looking at this as a community problem
• Feels as if none of the other stakeholders in this process have anything to lose
• City has not given the opportunity for more than 3 -year lease
• Suggestions for making GC more economically viable
o The new well. No more city water
■ Will still need supplemental water due to losses through system
o Gold course management team with 7 -year lease
o Well-maintained grounds
o A professional marketing plan and support from City and Chamber of Commerce
o Programs/ special discounts to entice new golfers, women, teens, and tourists
o Collaboration with PT lodging for package deals with the golf course
o A good clubhouse restaurant and downstairs conference room to rent out
• Ideas for property to be more inclusive of the community
o Replace community garden on corner of 19th and San Juan Ave
o Compatible recreational activities of specific holes, one day a week
o Putt -putt built on chipping range
o Open to walkers, night sky groups in evening after course closes
o Walk, bicycle paths
o Driving range- a covered tee area
o Plant native prairie grass along perimeter of roadside fairways
2:15 — 2:45am: Food Bank
Randy
Pamela
Mark
Doug
• Needs of homeless community
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1. Secure lockers
2. Access to showers/laundry facilities
3. Free mailboxes
4. Facilitator services
• Concentration of services
o Increase convenience of using facilities
• Appreciate proximity to open space
• Important to activate public space
• Warming Center
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Recommendation and Analysis
Port Townsend Golf Course
Prepared by David Hein
May 24, 2023
Table Of Contents
SUMMARY OF CURRENT STATUS
Purpose of Evaluation
Evaluation Process and Information Basis
Property History, Tour and Inspection
Discussion with Stakeholders
Discussion with Lessees
Course Conditions and Maintenance Practices
Review of Golf Operations
FF&E (Facilities, Fixtures and Equipment)
Covid Impacts on Operations and Revenue
Lessee Status and Challenges
Existing Programs and Revenue Sources
Local golf Demand — High and Low Scenarios
Case Studies / Comparables
IMMEDIATE NEEDS FOR 2023
National Golf Foundation Study
Course Improvements
Capital Improvements
Rates and Revenue
Sales and Marketing
Financial Expectations
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OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION
Golf Repurpose Options
SWAT Analysis of Options
Expanded Food and Beverage Operations
Stand Alone Golf Facility
Lease Structure
Long Term Operational Plan
Capital Improvements
LONG TERM OUTLOOK AND EXPECTATIONS
Ongoing Operations and Maintenance Plan
Financial Performance
Final Summary and Recommendation
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SUMMARY OF CURRENT STATUS
PURPOSE OF EVALUATION
This report was completed by David Hein, a golf course professional with more
than 40 years of golf course experience managing all aspects of golf development,
maintenance and operations. This experience includes managing golf courses to
include City and County operations and from large scale 36 -hole facilities to
simpler 9 -hole executive courses. In most cases the management focus was on
efficient operations and maximizing revenues. Background on this project was
obtained through multiple course visits and sitting down with the Lessee to
discuss operations, history and management challenges and discussions with golf
course stake holders, customers, and general Port Townsend community
members. As part of the "Envisioning the Port Townsend Golf Course" project, an
updated evaluation is needed to accurately access and understand the current
status of the existing Port Townsend Golf Course. The status will include a
thorough review of the existing conditions and factors that have impacted the
financial performance of the golf course over the past 5 years under the current
Lessor/ Lessee agreement.
This evaluation will also address many of the points and recommendations made
as part of the "Business Analysis of the Port Townsend Golf Club", completed by
the National Golf Foundation in January 2019. While the NGF has tremendous
golf knowledge and experience, there are instances where their expertise does
not always transfer to a specific property's nuances including location,
surrounding community and factors as well as historical attributes of the subject
property or operation. I will discuss the NGF report more specifically later in this
report.
EVALUATION PROCESS AND INFORMATION BASIS
The evaluation and basis of this report was derived from observations of the
existing property and discussions with those involved in the maintenance,
operation and use of the golf course. It has proven difficult to evaluate financial
results from both the lessee and lesser because of the very limited data on the
daily, monthly and annual revenue and expenses as well missing numbers of
actual rounds played. Typical reporting in golf operations would include rounds
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played by round type per month, revenues collected by all revenue sources in
detail and expenses by category, all reconciled to income and expense statements
that would normally be audited by the lessor to confirm rent payments are
correct. In review of the lease requirements, the lessee is required to submit
monthly and annual reports on multiple aspects including revenue and expenses,
memberships sold and rounds played but it does not appear that in the past
several years, either party reviewed or substantiated financial results from the
golf course operations.
Property History, Tour and Inspection
The Port Townsend Golf Course has a rich and storied history. Nearly 100 years
old, the course became a 9 -hole public facility in 1927. Originally designed and
constructed as a tree -less, links style golf course, it has matured significantly since
its inception.
The facility has all the necessary components of the public course. A small
clubhouse, maintenance and storage buildings, driving range, practice areas and a
9 -hole golf course.
• Clubhouse —The clubhouses is a wood framed, one story building with a
small golf shop, dining room, bar and outdoor deck area, kitchen and
restrooms. While the building is in need of maintenance it seems sound
and appropriate for the facility. I would not describe the building as inviting
which may be a deterrent to the general public on their first visit. The food
and beverage operation seems adequate with seating capacity of 40 +/- as
well as a full bar with an active liquor license. In addition, the lower level of
the clubhouse is a large open event room with a capacity of 50+ which is
currently full of old furniture and a private "game room" currently used
only by the lessee.
• Maintenance and Storage Buildings — There are multiple structures besides
the clubhouse used for private golf cart storage, inventory and equipment
maintenance and storage. The maintenance building and storage buildings
were completely full of lessee owned broken golf equipment, turf
equipment in various stages of disrepair and unsecured fertilizer and
chemicals used in the golf operation.
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• Outdoor Storage areas — Several pieces of turf equipment (operable and
broken) are also stored outside in the elements.
• Driving Range — The driving range consists of a grass tee line and landing
area with capacity for 10+ golfers. The range landing area is a bit short in
today's golf standard but adequate for the facility.
• Practice areas — consists of practice putting greens, chipping areas and
practice bunker.
• Golf Course
o The tee areas are small in size and generally uneven with varying
amounts of turf coverage. While this is a 9 -hole golf course, there
are 2 separate sets of tees on each hole so that 18 continuous holes
can be played.
o The fairways are mowed generally at one height with a combination
of turfgrass, weeds and little to no irrigation. Drainage did not seem
to be an issue although my visits to the course were at the end of a
prolonged dry period. The fairways are tree lined with several very
mature trees in need of trimming and in some cases, removal. There
are several areas that are uneven with some exposed boulders but
not unlike many older links style golf courses.
o The greens are mostly composed of Poa Annua with a fair amount of
weeds. They are relatively flat in nature and of ample size in relation
to the nature of the golf course.
Discussion with Stakeholders
As part of the facility review, I sat down with several stakeholders of the golf
course. These included women and men that play frequently, volunteers that
help maintain the course, interested citizens, neighbors and city personnel. There
is a wide variety of opinions about the current state of the golf course. The
general feeling of the golfers is that the golf course needs to remain as a 9 -hole
facility. When asked about the lack of revenue and expense to the city, the
majority speak to the poor management, poor maintenance and lack of sales and
marketing support. There is a very strong, loyal contingent that is persistent and
vocal on their support of the course, siting the historical significance, need for
open space and recreation and willingness to get involved. The non -golfers see
the golf course property as a potential area for alternative uses.
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Discussion with Lessees
The golf course is currently entering the 3rd and final year of lease with Gabriel
Tonan Golf Shops. In speaking with Mr. Tonan, he is acutely aware of the state of
the facility and points to a variety of circumstances that impact his ability as a
lessee to be successful. He cites the challenges with a short 3 -year lease term as a
lack of commitment from the city in his ability to manage the facility. He points to
a myriad of irrigation issues, lack of equipment and manpower, as well as no sales
or marketing support from the city, even though this aspect of operations is the
responsibility of the lessee contractually. While I am not familiar with the specific
terms of his lease, in a true lease the overall responsibility of maintenance,
operations and marketing are typically the responsibility of the Lessee.
I also spent a considerable amount of time with Rick Unrue who is currently sub
leasing the food and beverage operation from Mr. Tonan. Mr. Unrue is a
restaurateur by trade and has extensive experience in food and beverage as well
as managing large scale golf facilities. Mr. Unrue spoke mostly on the potential of
the F&B operations citing a need and demand for evening dining venues and
event space. He felt very optimistic on the future of the facility, both on the golf
and F&B operations and has made a sizeable investment in kitchen and bar
equipment to support his operation.
COURSE CONDITIONS AND MAINTENANCE PRACTICES
Review of Golf Operations
The golf operation consists of one full-time employee (Lessee) supplemented by
some part-time maintenance labor. This was observed during the fall and off-
season so presumably there would be additional labor (either paid or volunteer)
involved on the maintenance side of the operation. The golf shop is overstocked
with aged merchandise and does not present a welcoming atmosphere to the
general public interested in golf. There seems to be little or no structure in the
operation and a general lack of interest in the success of daily operations.
Maintenance and general cleaning were non-existent and all non -f & b areas were
in disrepair and overly cluttered with old and broken golf equipment. Judging
from the lack of financial data and reporting, one can assume that there is a
general overall lack of management in place.
FF&E (Facilities, Fixtures and Equipment)
The storage and maintenance facilities are cluttered with a combination of old
and broken golf clubs and accessories, used turf equipment in various stages of
disrepair and other golf course tools and accessories. There appears to be an
adequate inventory of turf equipment to maintain the facility but it looks like
most of the equipment is not functional. I could not see any indication that the
equipment is routinely maintained or repaired.
COVID IMPACTS ON OPERATIONS AND REVENUE
In reviewing the financials for the past 3 years, it looks like the operation was
impacted in 2020 by Covid. The reported revenue in 2020 appeared to be down
more than 20% when compared to 2019. While it is understandable that
operations would have been impacted early in the pandemic, it is surprising that
revenues did not increase during the summer of 2020. Golf was shut down by the
Governor during March and April but limited play was allowed beginning in May
and most golf courses saw a surge in play and revenue as golf was seen as one of
the safest activities during Covid.
LESSEE STATUS AND CHALLENGES
The current lease runs from January of 2021 through December of 2023. Under
the current lease terms, the Lessee operates all aspects of the golf facility and
pays the city rent. The responsibilities of the operator are to:
• Furnish the personnel, material, supplies, equipment, services and
provide supervision and administration to operate and maintain the
golf course, driving range and all facilities
• Responsibility for the operation, management and supervision of the
golf shop and food and beverage services to include adequate
merchandise and food and beverage to support the customer base.
• Maintain the premises, buildings and improvements to the standards
set by the city.
In speaking with the lessee, he has commented on the short term of the lease as
one of the major challenges to the success of his operation. Other challenges
include:
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• Irrigation supply — the water supply from the city is reported to be
inadequate from an amount and pressure standpoint.
• Sales and Marketing support — While it is not specified in the lease
documents, the lessee had expected the City of Port Townsend to
provide Marketing support to attract visitors and tourists to the golf
course. Typically in a public — private partnership, both sides would
participate in promotion of the leased entity. From the City
perspective, this could mean providing website links on city websites
to the golf course home page, working with the Chamber of
Commerce and tourism departments to list and promote the golf
course whenever possible. Those actions coupled with the Lessee's
own sales and marketing efforts, including but not limited to
maintaining a website, having collateral on hand for first time golfers,
contacting businesses in the area for leagues, tournaments, special
events and partnerships and lastly by providing friendly and caring
customer service (something that many have commented is lacking).
EXISTING PROGRAMS AND REVENUE SOURCES
In review of the limited financial reports, talking with the lessee and review of the
golf course website, it seems that the main source of revenue is through annual
golf memberships, daily fee golf, golf cart rentals, driving range ball sales,
merchandise and limited food and beverage. The website shows several golf
events but they are mostly attended by "Players Club Members" and fees are
generally just to cover costs. The food and beverage revenue has traditionally
been through snack and beverage sales, although the new food and beverage
operator has plans to greatly expand the operation.
According to the NGF report, the city of Port Townsend, with its small population,
may never be fully sufficient to sustain operations at PTGC to meet the City's
financial expectations. Further, the NGF report suggests that income and rounds
growth beyond the reported numbers in 2018 are highly unlikely unless significant
steps are taken to improve conditions, management and sales and marketing.
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I have listed information below to support both a high demand scenario (based on
taking the necessary steps to improve the golf course) and a low demand scenario
(continuing forward as status quo).
LOCAL DEMAND — HIGH SCENARIO
The total population of the city of Port Townsend is estimated at just over 10,000.
According to the National Golf Foundation, over 8% of the general population
play golf an average of 18 times per year and those over 65 years of age, play an
average of 36 rounds per year. With the 20% of Port Townsend's population over
65, it is possible to conclude that the golfing population of the Port Townsend
community could produce over 17,000 rounds of golf. When you include the
surrounding area, it is feasible to increase the annuals rounds to 20,000 with
improved conditions and increased marketing efforts.
LOCAL DEMAND — LOW SCENARIO
Without additional efforts to change the operations of PTGC, there is no evidence
to support any positive change in the financial results for the golf course. In fact,
because of the impacts of Covid, golf in 2021 and 2022 has seen a surge in
popularity and rounds that is unlikely to be sustained in future years. In all
likelihood, PTGC could see the number of rounds decrease along with associated
revenues in subsequent years. When you take into consideration, that much of
the current demographic using the golf course is over 60, and will continue to
"age out" of playing golf over the next few years, without a strategy to backfill
that golfing population, the numbers for the golf course may continue to decline.
CASE STUDIES / COMPARABLES
It is difficult to find comparable facilities in the immediate area, but I did contact
Village Green golf course in Port Orchid and Meadowmere Golf and Country Club
on Bainbridge Island, both 9 -hole golf courses. In speaking with personnel at the
golf courses, their results are more in line with expectations for a 9 -hole golf
course both from a revenue and rounds perspective. Green fees rates for
Meadowmere range from $40 per 18 holes to $25 for 9 holes and Village Green
rates range from $27 per 18 holes and $20 per nine holes. The green fees for
Village Green are in line with the current fees for PTGC at $28 for 18 holes and
$18 for 9 holes. Annual rounds as reported for Village Green were between
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13,000 and 14,000 9 -hole rounds. I also contacted Discover Bay; an 18 -hole golf
course located less than 10 miles from Port Townsend Golf Club. Their green fee
rates are $42 for 18 holes and they currently receive 12.000 —13,000 rounds
annually. When asked about their ability to accommodate Port Townsend golfers
that might be displaced by alternative plans for the golf course, they commented
that they could accommodate and welcome the Port Townsend golfers. I also
attempted to contact Port Ludlow, 18 -hole golf club 20 miles from Port
Townsend. Unfortunately, I was unable to make contact to gain their golf course
data.
IMMEDIATE NEEDS FOR 2023
NATIONAL GOLF FOUNDATION REPORT
In January of 2019 the National Golf Foundation (NGF) completed a Business
Analysis of the Port Townsend Golf Club. The purpose of the report was to
complete a strategic review of the complete golf facility and make
recommendations to enhance economic performance. To complete this task NGF
representatives travelled from Florida to review and report on the golf course.
Unfortunately, it is difficult when you are unfamiliar with the local and regional
aspects of a business to objectively evaluate that business against criteria that
may seem standard in the industry.
The report did accurately depict the condition of the golf course and fairly
evaluate the operation and maintenance of the golf course in general but the
report does not present a realistic plan forward that addresses the needs of the
golfing community, the community in general or the city's ability to support the
facility. Suggesting that the city spend well over $1 million dollars in capital
improvements with the hope of increasing revenue in the long term (that still
does not present a reasonable return on the investment) isn't a realistic solution
to the issues with the golf course. In addition, adding the expense of hiring
certified professionals to operate the golf and turf departments for a local 9 -hole
golf course doesn't support the financial goals of the city.
There are valuable sales and marketing recommendations within the NGF report
that would be appropriate to incorporate into the operating plan. As discussed in
the report, the use of simple collateral for distribution through the local Chamber
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of Commerce and Visitors Bureau, face to face selling to the local businesses,
website enhancements and the use of email communications are effective and
inexpensive methods to drive business and revenue. Those points as well as
others listed below, should be addressed and adopted.
COURSE IMPROVEMENTS
The current course conditions, as observed in October, need to be improved to
meet the financial goals of the city. The turf quality is poor, tee to green mainly
impacted by the lack of consistent irrigation throughout the property and very
low levels of fertility. The tees are inconsistently mowed, dry and uneven.
Fairways are dry and thin with visible weed infestation throughout. Greens had
been recently aerified but showed signs of poor topdressing, wear patterns and
an alarming weed infestation.
Improvement of the golf course needs to begin in the spring with aggressive
maintenance activities to improve conditions. The irrigation system needs to be
repaired so that greens, tees and fairways can be fertilized and irrigated to
improve existing turf and to promote additional growth. It is my understanding
that the irrigation supply has been improved by the city so repair of the existing
system is paramount. While there is a need for capital improvements of the
irrigation system, getting the existing heads to work properly, fixing leaks in the
current piping system and repair of the existing controllers is something that can
be done economically and would greatly improve the turf quality and golf course
conditions. Once the irrigation system is operational, weed control and fertility
needs can be addressed.
Maintaining golf course playability will include consistent mowing throughout the
golf course. To accomplish this, equipment needs will have to be addressed. In
review of the existing equipment, it appears that there is adequate equipment to
maintain the golf course if the equipment is operating properly. I observed that
much of the equipment looked to be broken or in need of immediate repair.
While equipment repair can be expensive, it is often times much more cost
effective to repair than replace, especially when maintaining a 9 -hole golf course.
The NGF report made considerable mention of the trees and rock outcroppings
on the golf course. While there is a considerable amount of trees on the course,
they provide character and protection of adjacent holes. I would not recommend
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anything more than minimal pruning and cleanup as part of the spring
maintenance program. As far as the rocks are concerned, I believe they are an
integral part of the golf course and do not need to be addressed as an immediate
maintenance need.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS
The NGF report provided an extensive list of needed Capital Improvements along
with a high estimate price tag of nearly $1.3 million dollars! While this list of
improvements would certainly help improve the golf course it isn't financially
viable and the city would never see a return on that investment. The golf course
does need improvements but I would recommend a focus on improving the golf
course maintenance and operations as the first step in building the golf
operations back to profitability. Improvements to the irrigation system, getting
the existing equipment repaired and operational, consistent mowing and
increased fertility will vastly improve conditions at a fraction of the estimated cost
as recommended by the NGF report.
ROUNDS, RATES AND REVENUE
Evaluating the financial performance of the golf course over the past 5 years has
been challenging based on the reported revenue and reported rounds as provided
by the lessee to the City of Port Townsend. Per those reports (Revenue Plus
Rounds 2018 — 2019 and 2021— 2022) the golf course reported rounds as
outlined in the table below. In discussions with the Lessee, it was recommended
to calculate additional rounds by dividing the 9 -hole and 18 -hole revenue by the
Senior green fee rate in place at the time. All rounds and reported green fee
revenue is included in the table below.
Year
Reported
Rounds
Green fee
revenue
Estimated
Rounds*
Total Rounds
2018
133
$43,234
2946*
3079
2019
162
$41,836
2657*
2819
2020
0
$49,169
3122*
3122
2021
143
$51,647
3342*
3485
2022
99
$59,320
3612*
3711
*Reported rounds are inaccurate. Estimated rounds are based on senior green
fee rates divided by green fee revenue.
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The reported total annual golf revenue over the past 5 years averages $114,504.
This is less than 50% of the revenue and number of rounds a similar 9 -hole golf
course should do. This is either because not all rounds and revenue are reported
or the membership, free / volunteer rounds are grossly understated. The first
step in improving the financial performance of the golf course is to fully report all
rounds, memberships sales, and ensure that each and every golfer checks in and
is reported on the tee sheet.
The average 9 -hole rate of $17 per round would seem to be considerably
underpriced when compared to other comparable golf courses in the area. While
PTGC might be priced with consideration of the current conditions, the golf
course should be priced somewhere between $20 - $25 for a 9 -hole round. In
addition to the daily fee rate, the course offers memberships at $150 per month
or $1075 per year. These rates as well are the lowest in the area and could easily
be increased by 10 —15%. In speaking with golf members and others that play
frequently, they understand and support the need for increases in the rates
charged. It is my opinion that the golfers will support paying more as long as the
golf course is better managed and in better condition.
Paramount to any discussions on revenue is the immediate need to monitor and
capture the number of golfers on the course at any given time. The lack of data
on rounds, round types and memberships reported to the city would suggest that
there is little control over who is playing and how much they are paying. While
the golf course has a large and dedicated membership following, it is my
understanding that there is also "volunteer" staff that works on the golf course
presumably in trade for free or reduced golf. This would complicate any accurate
accounting of who is paying and at what rate. It is common practice that every
golf course maintains a tee sheet and Point of Sale system that records every
player using the golf course. This system would capture the name, round type
(even complimentary golf), tee time, number of players in the group allowing a
daily tabulation of revenue received. This is critical not only for accurate
accounting, but for also protection for the city and leaseholder from any legal
SALES AND MARKETING
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There appears to be a lack of any consistent sales and marketing plan for the golf
course from either the Lessor or Lessee of the golf course. Basic marketing would
include a website with course photos, rates and scorecard information,
membership opportunities, tee time booking process, outstanding attributes
about the facility, environmental stewardship, location and directions, contact
information, etc. The current website contains basic information on rates with
posts by active golf members. There are several cost-effective tools that exist to
enhance the marketing efforts of the golf course. By utilizing some of the "plug
and play" website tools and golf course management systems, the lessee could
promote and manage the golf course more effectively, track rounds and revenue
more efficiently and communicate with its customers better to provide course
updates, special offers and promotions.
A Google search of "golf in Port Townsend" lists the golf course, but provides no
information that might entice visitors to come to the facility. Sales and Marketing
of the golf course directly benefits the Lessee and should be a key part of any
business plan. The city should participate as well in promotion of the golf course.
In review of the "Official Tourism Site for Port Townsend", "enjoypt.com", there is
no mention of the golf course anywhere on the site, including activities, things to
do or places to visit. This is sadly an opportunity missed and critical to the success
of the golf operations. With annual visitors to the Port Townsend reported as
more than 1 million, the lack of any information or marketing outreach would
certainly have a tremendous impact on the financial performance of the facility. I
attempted on multiple occasions to contact the Port Townsend Chamber of
Commerce to discuss their ability to promote and market the Port Townsend Golf
Club, but unfortunately, we have not had the opportunity to meet.
FINANCIAL EXPECTATIONS
• Current and Past Revenue — Total Revenue for the past 5 years has
averaged $114,504 per year. Total average rounds for the past 5 years
(not counting 2020 Covid closure) equal 3,274 annually. Added F&B
spend is just under $3.00 per customer.
• Expenses — In review of the limited expense data from 2014 through
2022 the Lessee's expenses averaged close to $95,000 annually
including, wages, operating expenses and lease payment. With
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estimated Net Operating Income of less than $20,000, it is unclear how
this lease arrangement would be viable. In addition, the city's expenses
for water usage, City staff and labor and repairs / maintenance /
professional services adds more than $50,000 annually.
OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION
GOLF REPURPOSE OPTIONS
If the golf course is to remain in any form that would provide the city with a
revenue stream it would need to continue as a 9 -hole golf course. Reduction to
an executive or par 3 golf course would dramatically limit the revenue potential
needed to cover the basic costs of the city. With any new conversion to a park or
smaller golf facility, the irrigation water costs at more than $30,000 a year would
add a significant budget impact.
The property could be reconfigured by eliminating the driving range and using
that area as an event lawn for summertime evening concerts and events.
Conversely relocating holes 6 and 7 onto the driving range would allow a large
mixed-use area on the north end of the property away from golf play and
associated liability.
Closing the golf course 1 or 2 afternoons per month would allow the introduction
of family days, walking, biking and hiking on the property which could serve to
open the area to non -golfers and introducing the golf course to future golfers that
may have never stepped onto the property. One of the greatest golf courses in
the world, St Andrews Golf Course, is closed each Sunday so that the town's
people can use the area for family and leisure activities. Called "Slumber
Sundays" it has been in place for more than 100 years and allows the coexistence
of golf and non -golf visitors alike.
EXPANDED FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPERATIONS
The F&B operation over the past few years has been inconsistent at best. Based
on the financial reports of the Lessee, sales have been limited to Beer, Wine, Soda
and candy. Sales have been extremely limited and the maximum reported
revenue over the past five years has been about $15K. It is my understanding
that recently Rick Unrue has taken over the F&B operation of the golf course. In
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speaking with Rick, he has plans to expand the F&B operations into lunch and
dinner service as well as operating the full-service bar. He has extensive
experience in the F&B operations as well as golf operations and he has made a
substantial investment into the operation and may be a good resource to utilize in
the future.
In addition to the dining room and cocktail lounge, the basement of the
clubhouse is designed as a private meeting space. It appears capacity is nearly
100 people and could be a great addition to the F&B operation. Currently the
basement is completely full and being used to store excess golf and restaurant
equipment. It is recommended to remove the material stored and begin to utilize
the area as meeting/ event space. Meeting space with full service food and
beverage is a high margin revenue source and should be utilized in 2023.
STAND ALONE GOLF FACILITY
If the decision is made to keep the golf course operation in a similar structure as it
stands today, there would need to be a comprehensive plan to ensure the success
of the operation and provide a revenue source for the city. The following
components would need to be developed and implemented between the city and
future lessee.
• Lease Structure — The existing lease structure and terms seem very fair and
would be a reasonable starting point for contract negotiations. It would be
recommended for the city to work through an RFP process to identify
qualified operators interested in the leasing of the operation. It would be
further recommended to extend the lease period to not less than 5 years
with a first right of refusal for an additional 5 -year term given to the lessee
provided that the lessee remains compliant with the terms of the lease.
• Long Term Operational Plan — The lessee shall be required to submit to the
city an annual golf operations and maintenance plan. This plan would
outline hours of operation, staffing levels to maintain the operation,
services offered, operational revenue and expense budget, fertility plan,
pest control plan, sample reporting, etc. This plan would allow the city to
monitor progress and evaluate the capabilities of the lessee to ensure a
successful operation.
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• Capital Improvements — The golf course will need some immediate capital
improvements to achieve the operation and revenue goals. The goal of
implementing a capital improvement plan and process would be to phase in
the improvements by prioritizing the improvements on available funds
coupled with the items that have the biggest impact to golf course quality
and playability. The NGF report suggested the need for $1.2 Million in
money to be spent. Unfortunately, this amount isn't feasible. It is
recommended that the capital improvements be completed by the lessee,
utilizing their staff and expertise when possible. This would allow for a
more cost effective and expedient completion
• The following list would include the priority items and estimated costs.
o Irrigation upgrade — The city currently provides up to 9,000,000
gallons per year, at a cost of nearly $40,000 to irrigate the golf
course. This amount is more than enough to maintain a 9 -hole golf
course in the Pacific Northwest. Given the observed dry condition of
the golf course, it is believed that the irrigation water is not being
used efficiently and probably leaks and drains into the drainage
system for the golf course.
It is recommended that the first phase of the irrigation improvement
would be to complete a complete review of the existing system.
Checking main lines and lateral piping for leaks, individual sprinkler
heads for correct operation and checking the control system for wire
continuity and connections. Given the general lack of maintenance
on the golf course, it would reasonable to assume that the irrigation
itself has not been maintained for several years. With the new well
and delivery system completed by the city, the golf course system
could be made operational (focusing on greens, tees and fairways in
that order), with a starting budget of $150,000. While this budget
may not completely overhaul the irrigation system, it would allow for
substantially better turf and playability conditions.
o Tree trimming and debris removal — Next on the list would be to trim
and remove any hazardous tree branches, dead trees and overgrown
areas that impact site lines and affect playability of the golf course.
This would only be meant to make the golf course safe for golfers
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and the general public and to allow for faster and better playability.
Budget for the activity - $30,000.
o Leveling and grading of tee and fairway areas — There are several
areas on the golf course that need to be leveled and smoothed to
provide a better playing surface. Tees that are uneven, have a lack of
turf or are too small to accommodate play would be stripped and
graded, then reseeded or sodded. Priority would be given to the
worst areas and phased over 3 years. Budget for this activity -
$30,000.
o Maintenance Equipment — There seems to be an adequate amount
of equipment in the storage area to maintain the golf course. It is my
understanding that this equipment is owned by the current lessee.
The golf course needs the following equipment
■ Greens mower
■ Tee and trim mover
■ Fairway/ rough mower
■ Sprayer
■ Utility cart
■ Maintenance Vehicle
Having an available fleet of equipment for any new lessee would be a
difficult and costly investment. It would be recommended to
evaluate the existing equipment fleet owned by the lessee and then
based upon the condition, negotiate the purchase of the useable
equipment by the city and have the equipment repaired. While the
NGF report mentioned that new equipment should be purchased, It
would not be recommended to purchase a new fleet (and new
equipment is not readily available) to maintain the golf course. It
would be much more cost effect to first repair the existing
equipment first and then purchase any remaining used equipment as
necessary. Budget to purchase and repair existing equipment,
$75,000.
o Clubhouse Improvements —The current clubhouse will need some
cosmetic refreshing, evaluation of the food and beverage equipment
and enhancements to entrance areas. It is in reasonable condition
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and can support the current food and beverage demand. With
cleaning and removal of unnecessary equipment in the lower level, it
is feasible to increase food and beverage revenue through events
and special occasion dining. Budget to refresh Clubhouse, $30,000
SUMMARY
While the NGF Report recommended that the golf course would benefit from
substantial enhancements to its maintenance infrastructure and these
enhancements would improve the course's competitiveness, such a level of
spending is just not financially feasible. By phasing improvements and by utilizing
lower cost alternatives, the course can improve well beyond the conditions today
and not create a financial hardship to the city. While the NGF report had valid
recommendations, those recommendations do not align with the character of
PTGC or the desires of the current customer base and the city.
LONG TERM OUTLOOK AND EXPECTATIONS
ONGOING OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PLAN
It is assumed that a new lease period would begin on January 1, 2024. Prior
to the beginning of each operating year, an operations plan and budget needs to
be developed and provided to the city. This plan and budget should cover the
following items on a monthly basis:
Turf maintenance plan including fertility and non -routine maintenance items
Sales and Marketing Plan including golf and event promotions and sales
Budget including the following:
Projected rounds and revenue for each player type
Projected merchandise sales
Projected food and beverage sales by revenue type
Expenses including the following
Labor, both salary and hourly
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Operating expenses for each department, golf, turf and f & b
Administrative costs; rent, taxes,
Marketing Costs
FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE
With improved conditions, better management, consistent operations and
standard / accurate reporting, the golf course should be able to substantially
improve on its financial performance. During the past 5 years (excluding Covid in
2020) total revenue has averaged about $127,561 per year. This included golf
and food and beverage as noted below:
Year
Total
Rounds*
Golf Rev
F&B Rev
Total Rev
2018
3079*
$114,968
$15,163
$130,131
2019
2819*
$113,171
$17,006
$130,177
2020
3122*
N/A
N/A
$102,650
2021
3485*
$112,151
$13,362
$125,513
2022
3711*
$117,725
$6,696
$124,421
*Reported rounds are inaccurate. Estimated rounds are based on senior green
fee rates divided by green fee revenue.
Forecasted performance for the next five years with anticipated implementation
of the capital improvement plan, new lessee starting in 2024, and operational
improvement as listed above, will improve dramatically. The NGF study
suggested that rounds should more than double current reported rounds based
upon the improvements outlined in their study. With the anticipation that
improvements will be phased in over the next 5 years, one could conservatively
estimate the following projections of rounds and revenue.
Year
Rounds
Golf Rev *
F&B Rev **
Total Rev
2023
6000
$114,000
$24,000
$138,000
2024
7000
$136,500
$28,000
$164,500
2025
8000
$160,000
$40,000
$200,000
2026
9000
$184,500
$50,000
$234,500
2027
10000
$210,000
$50,000
$260,000
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* Assumes a starting average green fee of $19.00 and increasing $.50 each year
** Assumes a starting spend per golfer of $4.00 increasing to $5 in 2025
FINAL SUMMARY AND RECOMMENDATIONS
In summary, Port Townsend has a very manageable asset in the golf course that
could one day in the near future be a self-sufficient and valuable asset to the
community. With the correct lease and management structure in place along
with an operating plan and appropriate oversight, the Port Townsend Golf Course
can support the golf and recreation needs of the immediate community as well as
those visiting Port Townsend. How the overall golf course fits within the city's
revisioning plan remains to be seen. I don't foresee a scenario where the golf
course is materially reduced in size and scope that would accommodate all of the
needs of the community and still attract golfers that would pay the required
green fees to cover minimal capital improvements and the maintenance expense
of the property.
Over 74% of the community support alternate uses, or a hybrid of uses for the
golf course property. In order for the golf course to continue to operate within a
smaller footprint, while accommodating a variety of community uses, my
recommendations include, 1) Relocate holes 5 & 6 to the driving range to provide
additional area for mixed use edge along Blaine Street, 2) Infrastructure
Improvements throughout the golf course, 3) Transition cart paths to
accommodate public trail use, 4) Supplement plantings to safely buffer public use
from golfers, 5) Improve turf conditions so that green rate increases can provide
additional revenue to the city and 6) Improve communications and customer
service to all users of the facility to create a welcoming and inclusive atmosphere.
By implementing alternative uses that can compliment the golf course and create
a welcoming destination for the community, it is anticipated that these changes
will soften the stigma that the golf course is only for the enjoyment of the golfers.
By thoughtfully crafting the appropriate Request for Proposal (RFP), the city could
partner with a new lessee that has both golf and food and beverage experience
that could build the operations of the golf course into positive asset to the
community that can also provide a reasonable revenue stream to the city. It is my
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understanding that some of the current golfers as well as the lessee of the food
and beverage operation have expressed an interest in managing the facility.
Overtime it could be expected this would create a more diverse customer base
and increase support and appreciation of the golf course that has been a part of
Port Townsend for nearly 100 years.
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Port Townsend Golf Course I Mt. View Commons
July 5, 2023
GROUNII° SWIEw" IIII
CENTRAL
YEAR
PARK - PHASE 1 (YEARS 1 - 10)
ITEM
GRANT REQUEST
CITY MATCH (35%)
TOTAL
2024
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$350,000.00
$122,500.00
$472,500.00
2026
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$350,000.00
$122,500.00
$472,500.00
2028
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$350,000.00
$122,500.00
$472,500.00
2030
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$350,000.00
$122,500.00
$472,500.00
2032
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$350,000.00
$122,500.00
$472,500.00
PHASE 1 SUB TOTAL 1,750,000.00
$612,500.00
2,362,500.00
CENTRAL
YEAR
PARK - PHASE 2 (YEARS 11 - 19)
ITEM
GRANT REQUEST
CITY MATCH (35%)
TOTAL
2034
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$428,000.00
$149,800.00
$577,800.00
2036
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$428,000.00
$149,800.00
$577,800.00
2038
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$428,000.001
$149,800.00
$577,800.00
2040
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$428,000.001
$149,800.00
$577,800.00
2042
RCO GRANT REQUEST
$428,000.001
$149,800.00
$577,800.00
PHASE 2 SUB TOTAL 2,140,000.00
749,000.00
2,889,000.00
TOTAL 3,890,000.00 $1,361,500 5,251,500.00
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From: Steve Hamoton
To: publiccornmentLcitvofDt. us
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Subject: conflict between the best habitat and housing at Golf Course property
Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 6:36:11 PM
To the Port Townsend City Council,
Please consider these comments for the city council meeting on July 17, 2023.
I write with regard to a last-minute addition to the golf course envisioning effort --
to both of the "preferred alternatives" -- of a significant housing project located on
top of the largest remaining patch of natural habitat on the parcel (along the east
side of the property). This seems to pit nature and housing, two of the public's top
priorities, against each other, even though both the natural area and the housing
project each constitute a small proportion of the total project area.
In addition to noteworthy zoning, road access, and slope issues, locating the
housing here would destroy the largest remaining natural habitat on the
property, a 3 -acre swale densely wooded with thickets and a wide array of
deciduous and coniferous trees. This section is actually one of the best pieces of
mixed -deciduous woodlands in our entire city. The presence of Long-tailed Weasel,
and nesting Willow Flycatchers, Black -headed Grosbeaks, and Swainson's Thrushes
are all indicators that this is high -functioning deciduous riparian habitat. Perhaps no
better illustration comes than from that of the chickadee-- they require over 6,000
caterpillars to raise a nest of chicks. They primarily get these caterpillars from
native alders, birch, and bitter cherry trees. Because these tree species are present in
this woodland, both Black -capped and Chestnut -backed Chickadees successfully
raise chicks here annually.
As someone who was involved with habitat restoration for most of my career, I can
tell you that creating this habitat from scratch (e.g. from a golf course) would take
at least 30 years, plus cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Keeping it, and
expanding it to connect it with the willows around the pond, would be the most
logical -- and economical -- approach to habitat restoration on the golf course
parcel.
Destruction of this habitat could jeopardize the city's attempts to get partnering
funds for the park, from the Washington Wildlife and Recreation Program or Dept
of Ecology's Environmental Restoration Grants, not to mention other non-
governmental habitat restoration grant sources.
I ask the Council to protect this natural area, and to explore other locations for this
housing development, and subject them to proper public review and comment.
Thank you for your consideration.
Steve Hampton
Port Townsend, WA (qat6y)
From:
Seth Rolland
To:
nub1iccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject:
Future use of Golf Course Property
Date:
Thursday, July 13, 2023 12:59:55 PM
Dear Mayor and Council,
I'm sorry I have not been able to attend your meetings to date on the golf course issue. I see that
many golf course proponents are writing letters to the editor and showing up at meetings, and I do
want you to know that most people I know have other views. I am not against golfing, my son was
on the golf team and I do believe that we should have access to many activities here. I'm not a
swimmer, but support having a pool, especially as the nearest one is Sequin. I don't use dog parks,
but appreciate that many folks do. I no longer have kids that use play equipment, but I'm happy to
see those full. And I don't use basketball courts, tennis courts or pickle ball courts but see many
residents enjoying those.
The golf course feels different to me, as I drive or walk by the 58 acres often and see, on average,
one person per 50 acres. This is also reflected in the course use docs and fees paid to the city by the
contractor. Land use wise, this seems like a wasted opportunity. I am certain that any other use
would provide more use to more people. The problem with golf is that as long as it is allowed, no
one can safely walk on the course property or use it in another way. The golfers have signs that say
we should preserve the Open Space. I completely agree that it should be open space. However, the
clear lack of usage shows that it is not in fact Open space, it is Closed to most residents.
I know as humans we are more afraid of losing something than we are excited about what we can
gain, so I am not surprised by the fervor of the golfers to preserve their access to an activity even if
most of them rarely use it. There is another course just a few miles away. Golfing is not as popular
as it once was, and I believe that the percentage of folks in town golfing will continue to decline over
time. If for some reason you continue a lease with the golf course, I'd recommend it be short as the
use and profitability make it seem like it won't last long on it's own.
I really appreciate that you are considering options that will make that space used by more of the
town. Thank you,
Seth Rolland
Port Townsend, WA
sethrollandggmail.com
From:
Sandra Stowell
To:
nu bliccommentCcitvofot.us
Subject:
Public Comment about the Golf course for the July 17th City Council meeting
Date:
Wednesday, July 5, 2023 5:33:44 PM
My name is Sandra Stowell and I live in Port Townsend at 316 33rd St
I want to speak about the golf course property, but I cannot be present at the July 17th
meeting.
My comment to the City Council, City staff, and fellow residents of Port Townsend is a plea: a
plea that you open up this entire large public property to the everyone. We need the Central
Park option.
There is plenty of evidence that access to the natural environment and green space enhances
our lives physically and mentally.
With less mowed grass, and with more native shrubs and trees, this green space can become
true "green lungs" for this part of the town. We will need that as surrounding private property
gets developed.
Let us take advantage of this amazing opportunity now. We can make this town better by
opening up this property to all residents and visitors. A park here will provide hundreds of
residents with the easy non -motorized access to green space that is not available to them now.
A park here will reduce car trips for near by residents and improve their daily lives. At the
same time this large open space can, and should, include special amenities with some parking
for those living further away. There is space here for more nature: native plants, birds, and
small animal habitat to enrich the area, and also for trails, active play space, a space for music
and performances, picnic areas, and food vendors. These 50+ acres can become an amazing
spot for relaxation, exercise, and fun, while they give us cleaner air and healthier wildlife.
I hope we can all envision this: walking and running trails throughout, a bit more parking
along San Juan and on the south end, and perhaps a modest accessible playground. The
community gathering space on the plan could start as a simple space for 2-3 food trucks on
weekends, some picnic tables, and a set up for bean bag toss and other simple outdoor games.
I hope we do not waste this amazing opportunity to keep Port Townsend healthy, and make all
parts of town beautiful places to live.
I will take a moment to speak to the golf lovers. I do hear that you love to play golf here, or
even love just knowing that there is a golf course here in town. But please try to understand
that your game is very specialized, and cannot appeal to many of us. So we are shut out, told
by messaging and clear signs that this 55+ acres of public property is for golfers only. The
numbers are real, it is a fact that this course is often empty or under used even in fine weather.
Please try to understand that those of us that cannot relate to hitting that little white ball have a
right to enjoy this property.
Council members, please choose the Central Park option. This is a historic decision that can
improve Port Townsend form many years to come.
Sandra Stowell
Sandra Stowell Mrtist.conz & Sandra Stowell.conz
From: k lindsav
To: nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: "Preferred alternative " plans for the golf course
Date: Thursday, July 13, 2023 10:07:59 PM
CAUTION: External Email
Port Townsend City Counsel Members -
Please consider the following when deciding/voting on the future of the golf course property
I was surprised to learn there are two "preferred alternative " plans for the golf course site other than the 3 plans I
heard about at the public meetings.
Both "preferred alternative " plans call for a 36 housing unit in addition to the 6 mentioned at the public meetings.
We were told at the meetings that the golf course land is designated as municipal but had an area where 6 housing
units could be built.
Why, at the eleventh hour were 36 additional units included? Who came tip with the "preferred alternative " plans?
Certainly not the voting public.
Once you turn open space into housing you can never get it back. I am always thankful when our elected leaders
have the foresight to designate land as open space.
Please consider what the people of Port Townsend want and what they voted for at the meetings.
Thank you for reading my comments
Karen Lindsay
Sent from my iPhone
From:
natalie dettmer
To:
pub1iccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject:
Central Park for PT
Date:
Friday, July 14, 2023 9:46:04 AM
CAUTION: External Email
Hello,
I would just like to emphasize the shifts taking place in our town. When we consider future personal growth for
residence and long term use for our community the individuals most impacted by a potential Central Park are our
children which is a very rapidly growing population in Port Townsend. This fact mixed with the already limited
potential for family activities and access to things like a family friendly swimming pool, indoor recreational
activities and zoning rules/restrictions on land use, the golf course becoming a Central Park becomes so much more
impactful to the current population and future population. Where else could we ever have something like this in our
town! 9 We truly hope that we don't miss out on the potential for a place that families and people of all ages can
gather and experience community together and the positive long term impact it could have on Port Townsend.
Thanks!
Natalie, Bobby,
Arlo and Sully Dettmer
Sent from my iPhone
From: Bill Hopkins
To: nubliccommentC6citvofpt.us
Cc: David Faber; Aislinn Palmer; Ben Thomas; Monica MickHaoer; Owen Rowe;Libbv Wennstrom; John Mauro; Amv
Howard
Subject: Golf Course Affordable Housing Plan?
Date: Sunday, July 16, 2023 11:40:47 PM
The golf course planning process has had "affordable housing" as a goal throughout, but has
yet to make any perceptible effort at addressing its needs. The latest sketch proposal puts an
indeterminate amount in an area that is both a wetland buffer and an earthquake hazard zone
with severely limited access, making no mention of utility capacities or access to public
transportation. We can do better, and should have a viable plan before approving the proposal.
Can electric power be provided without too much difficulty (a substation at most)? Do water
mains have sufficient capacity? Does the sewage line on Redwood (uphill from the
community) have anywhere near the needed capacity? Can a shipyard worker get to Boat
Haven't at 5 AM, or a restaurant worker home at 2?
Access to the area is limited to the north by occupied properties, and to the west and south by
wetlands. Redwood Street, to the east, is a lane -and -a -half road not designed to support traffic
for the proposed community. Both Redwood and Beech Streets provide access to F Street, but
both have terrible sightlines limited by the terrain coming down the hill from Cherry Street.
The only other outlet, E Street to Cherry, is similarly blind to the north. D Street and Beech
Street south of E Street are owner -maintained, which puts an extra financial burden on a
handful of taxpayers.
We support affordable housing, but we fail to see any plan here.
Respectfully,
Bill and Susan Hopkins
From: Lynn
To: nu b1iccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Golf Course Envision Project
Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 6:42:39 AM
CAUTION: External Email
This Envision team has done a good job of reaching out to the community and gathering public public input. Now
the City Council has the difficult job of deciding what to do next. I am a golfer and I do agree that there needs to be
more public access to the golf course and the and the open spaces around the course. There are no quick fixes but I
believe that the golf course could be some type of an anchor business while additional uses for the property are
being considered. The last four years has been a difficult time for all of us but maybe a project like this would bring
the community closer. I am an optimist. Thank you.
From:
Mary Mccurdy
To:
nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject:
Golf Course Not Ready for Vote
Date:
Saturday, July 15, 2023 10:36:46 AM
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Dear Council Members,
The Envision Golf Course Preferred Options are not ready for consideration for a vote. The 2 options are being
presented without costs attached and with additional housing that was never presented to the public as an option but
added after the public input and voting had been completed. The additional 27 homes listed on both Preferred Plans
cannot be built on the site as the land is not currently zoned for housing. Furthermore, more research needs to be
done to see if the zoning can be changed due to a stipulation that was made when the land was donated to the city.
There are additional questions that I have not seen addressed such as:
1. How would these homes be managed as affordable housing?
2. Would they be sold to individuals?
3. How would the City guarantee that they would remain affordable housing?
Respectfully Submitted,
Mary McCurdy
From:
Carl Danielson
To:
nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject:
Golf Course Options
Date:
Sunday, July 16, 2023 6:40:38 PM
I strongly recommend that the City of Port Townsend chooses an option that will both retain the golf
course as a regulation nine hole course and add other options for community use including public
trails, a community garden, and hosting outdoor entertainment like concerts.
As an avid golfer who plays the course on a regular basis I question some of the public comments
made during open house events that the number of rounds played averages one golfer per hour
based on the total number of golfers I encounter during a three-hour round or a local tournament.
I believe it continuing to have a contractor operate and maintain the course with minimal financial
support from the city is a more financially sound choice over the long term than the cost of
converting these 58 acres into a central park and maintaining it. The city already has plenty of parks
and open spaces available for public use and maintaining them is enough of a challenge without the
added cost of additional staff and other resources that a central park would require. The course can
continue to offer more affordable golf than other courses in the area and is a great place to learn to
play for local residents of all age groups.
Lets preserve this piece of local history that dates back over a hundred years and represents one of
many recreational options for the community along with public trails, pickle ball courts, and the
swimming pool.
Carl Danielson
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From: Jeff Lindsay
To: nu b1iccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Golf Course Plans
Date: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:09:28 PM
CAUTION: External Email
I would like to voice my opposition to the late addition of 36 housing units to the proposed plan. I went to the
meeting and was told the land was deeded for municipal use. I love the Central Park ideal There is plenty of land for
housing but public open space can never be replaced! Please do not remove precious public open space at the last
minute. Thanks!
Jeff Lindsay
Port Townsend
From: Debra Ellers
To: pub1iccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Golf course
Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 7:17:30 AM
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Dear Mayor and Council,
As a full time resident of Port Townsend, I'm very committed to a sustainable future. The large tract
of land currently used for a municipal golf course should be dedicated to the greatest public benefit
for those who live and visit here. While I can appreciate the passion of those who enjoy golfing, it is
a leisure pursuit for the relatively privileged few, who can dedicate the time and resources necessary
to participate. Golf excludes the non -golfing public, and requires managing this "open space' in an
artificial and resource -intensive way, requiring water, fertilizer and mowing. These are financial and
ecological costs. Moreover, the trend is towards declining participation in this pursuit, and many
public agencies have moved to other public uses of these large tracts of land.
I support the Central Park concept, with community gathering spaces, native plantings and trails.
And the perimeter areas already zoned for residential housing should be developed for affordable
housing desperately needed in our community. As someone who frequently walks and bikes around
town for transportation in lieu of using a vehicle, I can say unequivocally that this part of town needs
good pedestrian and biking access. It is not a luxury, but a necessity. Continuing the bike trail across
F Street through the current golf course to connect to the Mountain View campus is crucial, as the
current alternative that uses Redwood to Cherry St is not usable by many bikers due to its slope and
difficulty.
The golf course supporters attempt to point to other uses such as pickleball courts and the
swimming pool as showing that the City should continue to support the golf course. However,
pickleball uses a small amount of space, and swimming is a lifesaving skill that everyone needs to
have. No one has died from not knowing how to golf, but they sure have died from not knowing
how to swim. Golf simply requires too much space and too many resources for a small city to
continue to maintain publicly.
In conclusion, your decision on this important issue will have long lasting consequences for
generations to come and the future of our city. Whatever you decide will disappoint some people,
so I encourage you to do make the most reasoned decision to support the biggest public benefit,
that of implementing the Central Park option.
Thank you for considering my comments.
Debra Ellers
Port Townsend, WA
From: Katie
To: nu bliccommentCcitvofot.us
Subject: In favor of Central ParkCentral Park Option
Date: Friday, July 14, 2023 9:26:00 AM
Hello there,
I would like to comment in favor of the Central Park option for the future of the golf course.
This option would best support the wishes of the community as well as the environment and
would take Port Townsend one step closer to being a truly family friendly and
environmentally responsible community. While the hybrid option seems like a compromise, in
fact it leaves far too many community resources invested in golf, which is used by relatively
few community members. Please keep in mind that Port Townsend should be enjoyed by all
residents, not just the retirees or summer vacationers. Let's make a decision that we will be
proud of and will serve future generations well!
Thank you,
Katie
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From:
cartercarn6 mail.com
To:
nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject:
Save the PT Golf Course
Date:
Sunday, July 16, 2023 10:46:42 PM
CAUTION: External Email
To the City of Port Townsend,
Please save our town's only golf course.
Golf is a great way to get some exercise and fresh air. For many, golf is one's primary connection to the outdoors
and fitness.
Golf is many people's social outlet.
Golf can be played by any age group.
Golf requires a lot of focus and can be quite meditative.
Golf teaches discipline, humility and respect among other valuable lessons.
Golf courses are class rooms for future players and local youth teams.
Golf courses attract locals and tourists alike who pay to play.
Golf courses provide jobs.
Golf is a wonderful game that makes many people happy. It takes a lifetime to learn which makes golfers a devoted
bunch. Small towns need more options for activities, not less. Our kids need more options for activities, not less.
I ask you to please save our golf course. It is the only one we have.
Thank you.
Carter Camp
PT resident
Father of two young golfers
From:
MARGARET LEE
To:
nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject:
The Port Townsend Golf Course
Date:
Sunday, July 16, 2023 10:39:23 PM
Port Townsend City Council Members.
Re: The Golf Course
As and active member of the Jefferson County Historical Society for 40 years, I strongly
encourage you to honor historic design and construction by selecting Robert Horner's
alternative plan for the golf course; it preserves that original design while also accommodating
the expressed wishes of our community, golfers and non -golfers.
We must also consider the modest cost of implementing Mr. Horner's plan. comparatively.
A mandatory time -line for completion of the planning process should not prevent the serious
consideration that this alternative concept deserves.
Respectfully,
Margaret Lee
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From: Hans Barr
To: Pub1iccommentC6citvofpt.us
Subject: Central park
Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 3:20:04 PM
Hello,
I'm writing in regards to the proposed redevelopment of what is currently a golf course in the
middle of port townsend. Converting this site to a central park would dramatically improve the
well-being of local residents, allowing for actual open space (as opposed to it's current use,
which effectively prohibits the general public from accessing the site unless golf is being
played). My kids and I live nearby, and it would be nice for us to have a local park to access.
Creating a central park will allow for much more genral use by my family and others, and will
be a great asset for the community.
Thanks,
Hans Barr
530 19th st.
Port townsend, wa
From: Musa Jaman
To: nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Envision & Mountain View Commons public comment:
Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 3:56:54 PM
My name is Musa, I've been a citizen of Jefferson county since 1978,
1 attended Mountain View Junior High - the site of Mountain View Commons, and am a 1984
PTHS graduate.
I'm here because I'm alarmed at the lack of complete, transparent and accurate information
that has been presented by PT Staff to the council regarding Envision and Mountain View
Commons pool discussions.
And these are the reasons why I believe the council is in no position to make a decision
regarding either of these projects.
At the repeated request of several community participants throughout the engage PT
process, the project staff failed to make available an official "none of the above" option
at in person meetings and in online surveys.
Result: there is no official documentation or tally of citizens that wanted "none of the above".
"neutral" is not "none of the above" -
• At the repeated request of several community participants to include a citizen designed
alternative to the golf course proposals (central park or hybrid), inclusion of this design,
which addressed and solved many of the divisive issues, was not allowed and denied
consideration.
Result: the city and committee lead "community process" is selective in what it accepts,
includes and presents to the rest of the community for consideration
there by not enabling citizen lead problem solving and empowerment.
At the repeated request of several community participants there remains no public
availability of the comparative cost analysis officially listing the current issues at the
existing pool or the actual cost to fix what we already have.
Result: The public does not have complete information with which to make an informed
decision regarding the pool options - instead we've been told there are only two options - one
is 38million and the other is 53 million - both involve even more tax burden on Jeff. Co.
residents.
During the process of "community participation" presentation documents have lacked
clear, consistent and pertinent information regarding actual costs, actual design
components, and accurate details of the financial impacts -
o i.e. how a new taxing district would be governed and the extent of authority to
raise that tax.
o inclusion and location of "affordable housing" around the golf course
*These details were discussed but not documented on a slide like other selected information.
In addition, the inherent ambiguity of displaying information through charts, figures and
surveys has been confusing, inconsistent and skewed to create the impression of
"overwhelming support".
* The golf course survey had 625 respondents while the pool survey had 125
respondents.
• In a town of 13,000 residents, in a county of 33,000 residents those survey
results to not equate to "overwhelming support".
Collectively it appears that a well intentioned "community process" is not working well or
providing an accurate picture.
The staff and committees involved in the design and execution of the "community
involvement" strategy achieved results through narrow, tightly controlled messaging which
included some instances of clear conflict of interest.
As a result, elevated levels of confusion and divisiveness among residents have stalled what
should have been a process based in facts, integrity, and a clear path forward.
From: Toni Blanchard
To: nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Fw: Fw: You Don"t Know What You"ve Got "Til It"s Gone
Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 3:38:36 PM
I'm forwarding this for my friend, Dorothy Cotton*
From: Dorothy Cotton <pt.cotton@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 10:37 PM
To: Joni <jonijobone@hotmail.com>
Subject: Fw: Fw: You Don't Know What You've Got'Til It's Gone
From: Dorothy Cotton <pt.cotton@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 9:50 AM
To: Dorothy Cotton <pt.cotton@hotmail.com>
Subject: Fw: Fw: You Don't Know What You've Got'Til It's Gone
I have been invested in the Golf Course issue from the beginning by attending stakeholder
meetings, town forums, open houses and council meetings. I have listened and tried to
understand why a 100 -year-old piece of our history and sweet gem in our midst is up for "re -
envisioning". I participated in the 2020 "survey" but chose not to submit as I realized all
answers had no option for keeping the golf course. That was slanted. Here we are today with
the buzz term "re -envisioning" and to what end may I ask?
This town has been built by generations that raised their families here, worked in the
community, contributed countless volunteer hours including planting the iconic poplar trees
that, like the golf course, are being re -envisioned. It is dismissive of our history to attempt to
be rid of them. We have growing pains like any other community and must work together
collectively, as Port Townsend always has, to solve these issues. I don't believe getting rid of
the golf course is the answer. We are slowly losing our soul in the name of progress.
At best, I believe a hybrid golf course would be a compromise. Please consider Robert
Horner's input to the hybrid golf course plan which includes income-producing opportunities
while maintaining the integrity of the game of golf . It would also extend possibilities to future
public venues.
I applaud the Stakeholders who have had the difficult and time-consuming task of attempting
to interpret, protect and recommend a suitable solution to this controversial and divisive
issue. I trust the City Council can come to some resolution that reflects the history and
uniqueness of the community of Port Townsend and its future generations.
Respectfully,
Dorothy Cotton
From: Dale G
To: nub1iccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Golf Course
Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 1:04:00 PM
Dear Mayor and Council,
As a full time resident of Port Townsend, I'm very committed to a sustainable future. The large tract
of land currently used for a municipal golf course should be dedicated to the greatest public benefit
for those who live and visit here. Golfing is a leisure pursuit for the relatively privileged few. This
Golf course excludes the non -golfing public yet our tax dollars support it, and requires manageing an
artificial and resource -intensive way, requiring water, fertilizer and mowing. These are financial and
ecological costs. Moreover, the trend is towards declining participation in this pursuit, and many
public agencies have moved to other public uses of these large tracts of land.
I support the Central Park concept, with community gathering spaces, native plantings and trails.
And the perimeter areas already zoned for residential housing should be developed for affordable
housing desperately needed in our community. As someone who frequently walks and bikes around
town for transportation in lieu of using a vehicle, I can say unequivocally that this part of town needs
good pedestrian and biking access. It is not a luxury, but a necessity. Continuing the bike trail across
F Street through the current golf course to connect to the Mountain View campus is crucial, as the
current alternative that uses Redwood to Cherry St is not usable by many bikers due to its slope and
difficulty.
In conclusion, your decision on this important issue will have long lasting consequences for
generations to come and the future of our city. Whatever you decide will disappoint some people,
so I encourage you to do make the most reasoned decision to support the biggest public benefit,
that of implementing the Central Park option.
Thank you for considering my comments.
Dale Grooms
Port Townsend, WA
To: Mayor and City Council
I am very disappointed that the public input was bypassed when adding the new
34 housing units and then including them to the only two options for a vote that
guarantees approval. If housing is approved in the new location, it would destroy
the largest natural habitat on the golf course. There are significant major
challenges with the slope in building housing as well as road access and not zoned
residential Housing here would destroy the largest remaining natural habitat on
the property. The location consists of over 2-3 acres of densely wooded
undergrowth with a wide variety of trees. This section is one of the few pieces of
mixed woodland in our entire city. Many varieties of birds are nesting and use it
as a habitat. There is a major walking trail that would be lost but if the space is
retained new trails could be added which was a request of the initial public input
to preserve and expand the natural habitat.
What happens to the golf course if either plan is approved and no responses to
the RFP. Is the city now responsible for the upkeep hoping to get magic 10 -year
money grants. The city is in dire financial straits. How will we pay for the 13-20
million dollar plus sewer and water fix. Then how will the city finance a new
pool? Grants, taxing district, bonds and more private donations.
Please consider the options and the long term consequences.
Mitchel Osborne
From: Toni Blanchard
To: nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Golf Course Revenue—
Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 2:53:09 PM
Considering the revenue aspect of keeping the Golf Course, I've come up with these facts.
A'modified' Golf Course (as in Robert Horner's Concept) would generate income by:
1. Driving Range w/ Seasonal Concert Venue
2. Putt Putt Course
3. Larger Restaurant/Taproom/Event Space for Community
4. The Golf Course Lease from the City itself (percentage of profit?)
Even without using Robert Horner's plan, 3 out of 4 of those amenities will still produce
revenue.
(I like Horner's plan, but, without the boardwalk, and with a dog park incorporated
somewhere?)
The well use has only just begun to being incorporated on the property. The subsidy expense
that the City has been paying for 100 years now will be greatly reduced by using this well.
As Tim Caldwell pointed out at the Stakeholder's meeting, initial prioritized renovation
expenses wouldn't cost the City nearly as much as the big number being thrown around by out
of town consultants. And, as Carrie pointed out, grant $$ would be available for the
cart/pedestrian trail renovations and some of the other amenities.
Some assertive promotion of the course and it's lovely lil' restaurant/bar on the part of new
management and the City could greatly help the course's utilization and revenues.
Without that ill-conceived idea of the newly proposed row of houses along Walker St., the dog
park could be moved over to that area to keep the driving range. Even if the dog park stays
where proposed, the balls of the driving range are hit in the opposite direction from where
any amenities would be to the south!
As for another huge park being created (Central Park), the City has made it clear that $$ for
our Parks isn't enough to maintain what we already have and will need to start depending on a
concerted effort to rally volunteers and donors to to maintain our Parks and various City
properties and roadsides as is. The MPD and other tax $$ that will be asked of our voters will
mainly be going towards developing our Mt. View pool and community amenities asked for.
Also, it barely includes any income generating amenities.
The Hybrid Option (with some modifications) meets most of the 'Criteria' agendas composed
by the Stakeholders from the get-go.
It'd be a shame to have THIS particular administration and Council be the ones to lose our
Historic Golf Course that the City has been able to maintain and hold onto for over 100 years
without breaking it's bank. That would be quite the 'legacy' to tell your grandkids about 20
years from now when Golf becomes the happening thing to do again!
Please, choose the Hybrid Plan, consider incorporating Horner's design to keep driving range
and 2 holes where they're at, lose the boardwalk, lose the community garden, lose the
'additional' housing beyond the northern 'zoned for housing' parcel with proposed 6 units. add
a dog park.
Hybrid is the only compromising middle ground option available.
Thank you,
Joni Blanchard
From: Toni Blanchard
To: nubliccommentC6citvofot.us
Subject: Golf Course
Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 2:56:27 PM
Hello Everyone—
In the very last minutes of the very last Golf Course Stakeholder's Meeting on July 6th, a new
'modified' plan for the Central Park Option was brought up (Andy's Plan - includes mini-
golf/putt putt). An unofficial poll of the 8 members present in the room out of 21 members
voted to present this 'modified' option going forward to the Parks Board and Councilmembers
- not all 8 approved.
In all fairness, there should have been a poll, also, by Carrie and the Consultants to bring
forward the 'modified' Hybrid Plan - Robert Horner's Design, to the Parks Board and
Councilmembers. All who have learned of Horner's Hybrid option since it was presented (2
Stakeholder meetings ago and at the Open House) thought it was the best Option they've
seen so far, as it has so much to offer in new amenities for the community, BUT, also keeps
the historically famous design of the Golf Course - which maintains the course's integrity
instead of reducing it's appeal. Even some stakeholder members pushing for Central Park said
they'd feel much more appeased by Horner's Hybrid Plan than the Consultant's Hybrid Plan
made up. It's an obvious WIN-WIN Plan.
As was clearly stated by Carrie, the two options made up (Hybrid/Central Park) are NOT set in
stone. They are ONLY 'concepts'.
Councilmembers have the power to ask the Consultants to adjust/modify their Hybrid Plan to
accommodate so much more of Horner's Plan - in spite of Consultant Chris's statement that
it's too late in the Master Planning Process to consider Horner's modifications.
Just as, it's in the Councilmembers' power to ask Consultants to adjust/modify their own
Central Park Plan to accommodate Andy's Plan.
Let's keep this fair— And please ... do NOT let the Aquatic Facility somehow slip onto the Golf
Course property at the very last minute for any kind of reason, what -so -ever!!
Thankyou*
Joni Blanchard
From:
fweinmannC6cablespeed.com
To:
publiccommentC6citvofpt.us
Subject:
Golf course/Mountainview planning
Date:
Monday, July 3, 2023 6:12:21 PM
Dear Port Townsend City Council,
If the goal of the golf course/Mountainview planning exercise is not to "get rid of the golf
course" then a commitment should be made to leave the golf course intact (including the
driving range) for at least a period of 5-10 years. This would allow time to make the golf
course into a financial benefit for the city. This should be undertaken cooperatively between
the city and the golfing community. I believe the golfing community is actively considering
how to obtain private funds to join with the city to make the golf course a beautiful, and
financially viable, asset. It would preserve the golf course and save several million
dollars. Even if the city did acquire grants to cover the cost of "park" development there
would be the ongoing expense of maintenance -probably 1-2 extra park staff every year.
Grants for maintenance are very unusual and very difficult to obtain.
A decision to convert public open space to privately owned housing is permanent and
irrevocable. I repeat, it is permanent. When we ask about locations for housing other than the
golf course, the answer is that "we are not planning for areas other than the golf course and
Mountainview". However, it is incumbent on the city council to be less narrow-minded, that is
to think broadly about locations for affordable housing in PT. Anybody who has looked knows
perfectly well that our town is not "built out". There are a lot of undeveloped propertiwa
within the city limits. Private/public partnerships with landowners should be the first priority
for locating opportunities for affordable housing.
Sincerely,
Fred Weinmann
From:
Julie Jaman
To:
publiccommentCcitvofot.us
Subject:
July 17, 2023 city council
Date:
Monday, July 17, 2023 3:50:00 PM
Attachments:
3 7 17 23 council.pdf
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City Council
RE: Item IX New Business
Action: City Council will receive the final recommendation on the future decision of the
Envision the Port Townsend Golf Course and Mountain View Commons and be asked
to make a decision.
What are you voting on? Are you making a decision on a future decision?
Many links in the staff narrative do not work properly - no access to information.
The golf course recommendation for a hybrid plan includes housing to be built on
difficult topography within golf course land that is a significant habitat area (see Steve
Hampton's careful description). Robert Horner submitted a viable alternative plan
that received no mention in the staff narrative but is very favorable to many in the
community.
There are no apparent staff recommendations for the Mt View Commons.
But there are some immediate needs and considerations before making a future
decision.
The gym serves multipurposes:
Indoor court games
Meeting space
Performance space
Indoor group exercise and health classes
But plans are needed for this space to be used as needed for a cooling and warming
center.
What we know is usually less that 200 people use the pool, some multiple times in
any given month. By 2030 there may be 100 more pool patrons. The parking area is
used by the staff and public and by pool staff and swimmers.. There is no data on
who uses how many parking spaces during open hours. The police office closes at
3pm and the pool is open only part time. A parking lot for 150 cars is part of the
aquatic center proposal. How many parking spaces will be for the pool and how
many for Mt View Commons staff and the public doing business at various agencies?
And if the voters don't agree to more taxes what is the plan for parking?
A plan to reconfigure and expand the existing parking area is doable and an
immediate need. The existing Transportation Plan does not appear to include this
essential infrastructure.
The public has heard from contractors who seem rushed by an arbitrary timeline that
a multi million dollar aquatic center is the only choice. But that takes a vote to
increase taxes and what if the community votes that down? There are more than the
current staff options that need discussion and consideration.
The city administration has plot lines to numerous fees and taxing revenues for very
ambitious planning. A unitary narrative acts as a lubricant reaching through the local
media, weekly on KPTZ, the messaging conformity threading staff reports, both
vertically and horizontally, contractors and staff.
Their rushed surveys and slide shows imply that we stand to lose something yet they
are not adequate enough to compel the taxpayers to pony up. In fact, going into
debt using the community assets as collateral is where the risk really lies. More
thoughtful process is needed to create trust and subdue skepticism. Repeated catch
words and phrases are not enough when it gets down to taxing the community. We
need more to go on.
Julie Jaman
Quimper Peninsula
7-23-23
City Council
RE: Item IX New Business
Action. City Council will receive the final recommendation on the future decision of the
Envision the Port Townsend Golf Course and Mountain View Commons and be asked to
make a decision.
What are you voting on? Are you making a decision on a future decision?
Many links in the staff narrative do not work properly - no access to information.
The golf course recommendation for a hybrid plan includes housing to be built on
difficult topography within golf course land that is a significant habitat area (see Steve
Hampton's careful description). Robert Horner submitted a viable alternative plan that
received no mention in the staff narrative but is very favorable to many in the
community.
There are no apparent staff recommendations for the Mt View Commons.
But there are some immediate needs and considerations before making a future
decision.
The gym serves multipurposes:
• Indoor court games
• Meeting space
• Performance space
• Indoor group exercise and health classes
But plans are needed for this space to be used as needed for a cooling and warming
center.
What we know is usually less that 200 people use the pool, some multiple times in any
given month. By 2030 there may be 100 more pool patrons. The parking area is used
by the staff and public and by pool staff and swimmers.. There is no data on who uses
how many parking spaces during open hours. The police office closes at 3pm and the
pool is open only part time. A parking lot for 150 cars is part of the aquatic center
proposal. How many parking spaces will be for the pool and how many for Mt View
Commons staff and the public doing business at various agencies? And if the voters
don't agree to more taxes what is the plan for parking?
A plan to reconfigure and expand the existing parking area is doable and an immediate
need. The existing Transportation Plan does not appear to include this essential
infrastructure.
The public has heard from contractors who seem rushed by an arbitrary timeline that a
multi million dollar aquatic center is the only choice. But that takes a vote to increase
taxes and what if the community votes that down? There are more than the current staff
options that need discussion and consideration.
The city administration has plot lines to numerous fees and taxing revenues for very
ambitious planning. A unitary narrative acts as a lubricant reaching through the local
media, weekly on KPTZ, the messaging conformity threading staff reports, both
vertically and horizontally, contractors and staff.
Their rushed surveys and slide shows imply that we stand to lose something yet they
are not adequate enough to compel the taxpayers to pony up. In fact, going into debt
using the community assets as collateral is where the risk really lies. More thoughtful
process is needed to create trust and subdue skepticism. Repeated catch words and
phrases are not enough when it gets down to taxing the community. We need more to
go on.
Julie Jaman
Quimper Peninsula
From: David Faber
To: Bill Hopkins; publiccommentC6cityofpt.us; Carrie Hite
Cc: Aislinn Palmer; Ben Thomas; Monica MickHaoer; Owen Rowe; Libbv Wennstrom; John Mauro; Amv Howard
Subject: Re: Golf Course Affordable Housing Plan?
Date: Monday, July 17, 2023 2:26:29 PM
Thank you for your email, Bill & Susan.
Best,
David J. Faber
Mayor, City of Port Townsend
(360) 821-9374
From: Bill Hopkins <bill.hopkins.208@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2023 11:40 PM
To: publiccomment@cityofpt.us <publiccomment@cityofpt.us>
Cc: David Faber <DFaber@cityofpt.us>; Aislinn Palmer <apalmer@cityofpt.us>; Ben Thomas
<bthomas@cityofpt.us>; Monica MickHager <MMickhager@cityofpt.us>; Owen Rowe
<orowe@cityofpt.us>; Libby Wennstrom <Iwennstrom@cityofpt.us>; John Mauro
<JMauro@cityofpt.us>; Amy Howard <AHoward@cityofpt.us>
Subject: Golf Course Affordable Housing Plan?
The golf course planning process has had "affordable housing" as a goal throughout, but has
yet to make any perceptible effort at addressing its needs. The latest sketch proposal puts an
indeterminate amount in an area that is both a wetland buffer and an earthquake hazard zone
with severely limited access, making no mention of utility capacities or access to public
transportation. We can do better, and should have a viable plan before approving the proposal.
Can electric power be provided without too much difficulty (a substation at most)? Do water
mains have sufficient capacity? Does the sewage line on Redwood (uphill from the
community) have anywhere near the needed capacity? Can a shipyard worker get to Boat
Haven't at 5 AM, or a restaurant worker home at 2?
Access to the area is limited to the north by occupied properties, and to the west and south by
wetlands. Redwood Street, to the east, is a lane -and -a -half road not designed to support traffic
for the proposed community. Both Redwood and Beech Streets provide access to F Street, but
both have terrible sightlines limited by the terrain coming down the hill from Cherry Street.
The only other outlet, E Street to Cherry, is similarly blind to the north. D Street and Beech
Street south of E Street are owner -maintained, which puts an extra financial burden on a
handful of taxpayers.
We support affordable housing, but we fail to see any plan here.
Respectfully,
Bill and Susan Hopkins
111y
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Townsen
Submitted By: Steve King
Department: Public Works
Agenda Bill AB23-199
Meeting Date: July 17, 2023
Agenda Item: IX.B
® Regular Business Meeting
❑ Workshop/Study Session
❑ Special Business Meeting
Date Submitted: July 11, 2023
Contact Phone: 379-4432
SUBJECT: Resolution 23-042 Authorizing the City Manager to Execute all Agreements
Necessary to Complete the Discovery Road Improvement Project
CATEGORY:
❑ Consent ❑x Resolution
❑x
Staff Report ❑ Ordinance
Contract Approval ❑ Other:
BUDGET IMPACT:
Expenditure Amount: $4,294,446.21
Included in Budget? Yes ❑x No ❑x
Public Hearing (Legislative, unless otherwise noted)
3 -Year Strategic Plan: 4 - Ensure sustainable future for public services and facilities
Cost Allocation Fund: 305 CIP Street
SUMMARY STATEMENT:
Improvements to the Discovery Road corridor have been in City plans for many years and
progressive improvements have been made overtime, including the addition of sidewalks
between San Juan and 19th, and ultimately the improvements of F -Street. Discovery Road
is the city's largest arterial street providing a main connection from SR20 at the west end
of the city to Fort Worden, Jefferson County Fairgrounds, Salish Coast Elementary
School, Blue Heron Middle School, Mountain View Campus, and Uptown. This Council
action concerns the section of Discovery Road between Salish Coast and the Rainier
Roundabout. The project connects bicycle and sidewalk facilities filling a crucial gap and
in particular connecting to the Salish Coast sidewalks and bike path on Discovery Road.
The project website includes more details about the project:
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The City secured federal funds in 2018 to begin the design process. Subsequently a bike
and pedestrian grant was secured in 2019. Finally, additional federal funds were secured
along with a Transportation Improvement Board (TIB) grant in 2020. The initial project
funding included a total of $4,693,215 in grant funds and a total of $880,000 in City of
Port Townsend funds as outlined in the following table. This information was presented
to the City Council on January 4, 2021, associated with approval of the TIB grant.
Funding
Amount
STP
621,515
Ped/Bile
1,442,082
TIB
2,629,618
City Street Funds
270,000
City Stormwater Funds
250,000
City "mater Funds
180,000
City Sewer Funds
180,000
Total
$
5,573,215
Innial Funding .5urrmmy: Nate, addnional Federal Funds w ere secured in 1011.
After an extensive public outreach process, the City Council approved the design concept
on May 17, 2021, per Resolution 21-036. The meeting agenda and materials can be found
at: Ihrot.t liew lid:::::::4&61H i ::::::2256.
Over the last couple of years, City staff and SCJ Alliance have been working on the final
design implementing the design concept approved by Council. The project was advertised
for bid on May 15th of this year as two separate contracts to construct the street
improvements and to perform wetland mitigations as required by the NEPA environmental
review process. Four contractors submitted bids with the lowest responsive bidder being
Seton Construction. The low bid for the project came in approximately $506,000 above
the engineer's estimate. The bid tabulations are attached for reference.
Based on the bids received, the new total project cost is approximately the same as
originally proposed; however, costs are in different categories and a considerable portion
of the project is not grant eligible. The following description provides an overview of the
project cost changes and the funding sources including the increase in City costs of
$186,360. Furthermore, the estimate provided here does not include any contingency as
required by the grant agencies. Thus, the City needs to be prepared to increase funding
for this project to account for change conditions that are typically 5-10% for a project of
this nature and size.
The project costs are summarized as follows by category:
Grant Eliaible I Grant Ineligible
The current project funding sources (excluding contingency) and the difference from
previous Council approvals are updated as follows:
Funding Source
Sch A -
Change
TIB (State Funds) Grant
$2,493,288
($136,330)
Total Costs
Rd/MCity
Sch B - Bike/ped
Sch C- Water
Sch D- Sewer
Total
Grand Total - Grant Eligible PE+ CN
2,619,722
2,276,043
192,702
64,311
5,152,777
Grand Total - All costs
2,744,835
2,518,424
234,263
75,831
5,573,353
The current project funding sources (excluding contingency) and the difference from
previous Council approvals are updated as follows:
Funding Source
Current Est.
Change
TIB (State Funds) Grant
$2,493,288
($136,330)
WSDOT Bike/Ped
$1,442,082
$0
STP (Federal Funds)
$621,515
$0
Street fund match
$363,693
$93,396
Stormwater Utility funds
$342,680
$92,680
Water Utility funds
$234,263
$54,263
Sewer Utility funds
$75,831
($104,169)
TOTAL $5,573,353 ($160
The changes in funding sources are related to the bid costs and eligibility under the
various grant and funding sources. For example, TIB eligible costs decreased. Thus, the
difference in funding is required to be made up by the City Street and City Stormwater
Funds. City stormwater funds are allocated based on the bid costs of the stormwater
improvements within the project. All of these costs include design engineering,
construction engineering, and construction.
Engineering for this project totaled $1,176,886. Of this, approximately $600,000 was for
City staff time managing the project over a 2.5 year period. The remaining engineering
went toward consultant costs for design. Just over $700,000 is not eligible for grant
reimbursement from state TIB funding. Additionally, $130,000 was the cost for the public
engagement process. The point to be shared is that the cost of managing a federal project
with a high degree of public involvement is significant and must be planned for in future
to obtain the same level of service.
Finally, award of this project should take into account that contingency is needed for a
project of this scale and complexity. Typically a contingency of 5% of construction is
recommended, totaling $191,349. For the purpose of this approval, this amount needs to
be included in the project total. It is possible that the City would need to come up with an
additional $191,349. However, grant resources from TIB are still available for eligible
costs and thus approximately 50% of this contingency amount could be covered by the
grant depending on the category of costs.
In summary, staff is recommending awarding this project with the presumption that a
contingency of $191,349 be assumed. This results in a project increase for the streets
and stormwater funds of $377,424. A budget supplemental may be required for 2023 and
given the project will extend into 2024, this revised budget will be included in the 2024
budget process. Staff recommends the use of banked capacity funds in 2024 to ensure
this estimated budget overage has a funding source. Staff will work with Seton
Construction to monitor budgets throughout the construction process.
Specifically, this resolution authorizes the City Manager to enter into contracts with Seton
Construction, Inc. for the Discovery Road Improvements Project in an amount of
$3,624,118.21; Seton Construction, Inc. for the Discovery Road; Seton Construction for
Wetlands Mitigation project in an amount of $77,340.00; with the Jefferson County PUD
for street lights in an amount of $125,500; with SCJ Alliance in an amount of $467,488
for construction engineering services; and execution of changes orders up to $191,349.
If approved, construction is anticipated to begin in mid-September.
ATTACHMENTS:
1. Resolution 23-042
2. Bid Tabulation (Roadway Construction Contract)
3. Bid Tabulation (Wetlands Contract)
CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION: N/A
RECOMMENDED ACTION: Move to approve Resolution 23-042 Authorizing the City
Manager to Execute all Agreements Necessary to Complete the Discovery Road
Improvement Project
ALTERNATIVES:
❑x Take No Action ❑x Refer to Committee ❑x Refer to Staff ❑x Postpone Action
❑ Remove from Consent Agenda ❑ Waive Council Rules and approve Ordinance
❑ Other:
Resolution 23-042
RESOLUTION NO. 23-042
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PORT TOWNSEND,
WASHINGTON, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL
AGREEMENTS NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE DISCOVERY ROAD
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT
WHEREAS, the City of Port Townsend has planned for improvements to Discovery Road
for many years as it is one of the largest arterial streets connecting the City's west side with the east
side; and
WHEREAS, the City received a federal grant to begin the design process and later the State
of Washington and the federal government awarded the City several other grants to construct the
project; and,
WHEREAS, the City Council approved the Discovery Road design concept on May 17,
2021; and,
WHEREAS, the City advertised for bids in spring 2023; and
WHEREAS, the lowest bid was from Seton Construction with construction anticipated to
begin in September 2023;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Port
Townsend to authorize the City Manager to execute all agreements necessary to complete the
Discovery Road Improvement project.
ADOPTED by the City Council of the City of Port Townsend at a regular meeting
thereof, held this 17'h day of July 2023.
Attest:
Alyssa Rodrigues
City Clerk
David J. Faber
Mayor
Approved as to form:
Heidi Greenwood
City Attorney
BID TOTALS
DISCOVERY ROAD BIKEWAY, ROADWAY, AND SIDEWALK PROJECT
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Eng1n0er',s Estimate
Active Construction, Inc.
Interwest Construction, Inc.
Seton Construction, Inc.
Sound Pacific
Construction Inc.
. P.O. Box 430
609 N. Hill Blvd.
4640 S. Discovery Rd.
6708 144th St. NW
,. Puyallup, WA 98371
Burlington, WA 98233
Port Townsend, WA 98368
Gig Harbor, WA 98332
Schedule A (Roadway) $
1,6115,060.30
$ 2,828,376.53
$ 2,055,253.00
$ 1,813,467.35
$ 2,523,694.00
Schedule B (Bikeway) $
1,212,08030
$ 1,585,836.50
$ 1,666,644.60
$ 1,583,520.75
$ 1,737,224.75
Schedule C (Water) $
168,693.64 $ 196,636.39
$ 189,728.45
$ 170,296.81
$ 166,682.98
Schedule D (Sewer) $
79,625,54
i $ 64,825.58
$ 84,237.75
$ 56,833.30
$ 65,773.12
TOTALI $
3;130,459,78
1 $ 4,675,675.00
1 $ 3,995,863.80
1 $ 3,624,118.21
1 $ 4,493,374.85
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BID TABULATIOI\ DISCOVERY ROAD - WETLAND MITIGATION
BID PROPOSAL: (Schedule A)
Seton Construction, Inc.
ITEM
WSDOT
ITEM DESCRIPTION
QTY.
UNIT1
t
Unit Price
TOTAL
NO.
SPEC
PREPARATION
1
1-09
MOBILIZATION
1
LS
$15,500.00
$15,500.00
EROSION CONTROL AND ROADSIDE PLANTING
2
8-02
PSIPE FRAXINUS LATIFOLIA (OREGON ASH), 1-2
40
EA
` gIII�
$3000 $30.00
$1,200.00
GAL.
IR
3
8-02
PSIPE POPULUS TRICHOCARPA BLACK
(
30
EA
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$30.00
�/�
$900.00
COTTONWOOD), 1-2 GAL
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4
8-02
PSIPE MALUS FUSCA (WILD CRABAPPLE), 1-2
60
EA$30.00
$1, 800.00
GAL.
5
8-02
PSIPE SALIX HOOKERIANA (HOOKER'S WILLOW)
5
EA
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
������� $18.00
Y�`(�j/////// �����
$90.00
2-3" DIAMETER STAKES OR CUTTINGS
s' ///
6
8-02
PSIPE ROSA NUTKANA (NUTKA ROSE), 1 GAL.
122
EA
// "�-%�����,�r,,, $30.00
$3,660.00
7
8-02
PSIPE CAREX OBNUPTA (SLOUGH SEDGE),
150
EA/
II �iiii, $13.00
$1,950.00
PLUGS
8
8-02
PSIPE JUNCUS EFFUSUS (SOFT OR COMMON
150
EA
" Will, $13.00
$1,950.00
9
8-02
RUSH), PLUGS
(WESTERN
12
10
EA
i/ii/iii ���Wi
�, // $30.00
$300.00
HEMPE LOCK), OCK) GALROPHYLLA
10
8-02
PSIPE SALIX SCOULERIANA (SCOULER'S
73
EA
$30.00
$2,190.00
WILLOW), 1-2 GAL. OR CUTTINGS
�/j„//���� � ,,, //j//jj�����������
11
8-02
PSIPE POPULUS TREMULOIDES (QUAKING��i��%
25
EA`iii
�i�i
//i�� $30.00
$750.00
ASPEN), 1-2 GAL.
12
8-02
PSIPE MAHONIA NERVOSA (LOW OREGON
5
EA
`........hili ii/ii $30.00
$150.00
GRAPE), 1 GAL.
13
8-02
PSIPE SYMPHORICARPOS ALBUS (COMMON
75
EA
� � $30.00
$2,250.00
WHITESNOWBERRY, 1 GAL.
ihhhhi,,,iiii
14
8-02
PSIPE POLYSTICHUM MUNITUM (SWORD FERN),
35
EA
����
° ,� $30.00
iiiii,,,
$1,050.00
15
8-02
1 GAL./i/ii/iiii
PLANTING AREA WEED CONTROL AND
11,000
SF
iii
t ���� $2.10
$23,100.00
PREPARATION
16
8-02
GIRDLING/FELLING ALDERS
80
EA
',,,,,, --%�'��” ' $175.00
$14,000.00
TRAFFIC
17
8-21
PERMANENT SIGNING
1
call
oIII $5,500.00
$5,500.00
OTHER ITEMS
18
1-05
RECORD DRAWINGS
1
L S
,, ,,,- - -,,;, a �,,,, .,- $1,000
$1,000.00
SUBTOTAL ,,,, , , ,, ,i' , �,_, SUBTOTAL
$77,340.00
CITY MEETINGS SCHEDULE
(This schedule is draft only, subject to change. See City website w cityofpteus)
Day
Date
Time
Type of Meeting
Tentative Agenda Item
Location
Absent
Thurs
July 13
4:15
Civil Service Commission
CANCELED
Chambers
Thurs
July 13
6:00
Healthier Together Open House
A quorum of Council may be present
Fort Worden
Commons
Thurs
July 13
6:30
Planning Commission
CANCELED
Chambers
Fri
July 14
3:00
Poet Laureate Panelist Meeting
Chambers
Mon
July 17
6:00
City Council Business Meeting
. Healthier Together Briefing
• STIP Update Public Hearing
• Envision Golf Course and Mountain View Commons Final
Recommendation
• 2nd Reading of Nuisance Code
• Discovery Rd
• Chambers Upgrade Contract
Chambers
Wed
July 19
3:00
Council Finance and Budget Committee
Chambers
Wed
July 19
6:30
Special Session Planning Commission
Chambers
Thurs
July 20
3:00
Public Art Committee
Chambers
Tues
July 25
4:30
Parks, Recreation, Trees and Trails Advisory Bd.
Chambers
Wed
July 26
2:30
Jefferson County Housing Fund Board
BOCC
Wed
July 26
6:30
Special Session Planning Commission
Chambers
Thurs
July27
6:30
Planning Commission
CANCELED
Chambers
Tues
Aug 1
3:00
Historic Preservation Committee
Chambers
Tues
Aug 1
TBD
Special Session City Council Business Meeting
Wed
Aug 2
3:00
Council Infrastructure and Development Comm.
Chambers
Thurs
Aug 3
3:00
Arts Commission
Chambers
Mon
Aug 7
2:00
Special Session LTAC Meeting
Chambers
Mon
Aug 7
6:00
City Council Business Meeting
. Comprehensive Plan Amendment- Sims Gateway Plan
• Raccoon Lodge Public Art Loan Approval
Chambers
Tues
Aug 8
1:00
Library Advisory Board
3rd Floor Conf
Tues
Aug 8
3:00
Climate Action Committee
Virtual
Wed
Aug 9
3:00
Council Culture and Society Committee
Chambers
Wed
Aug 9
6:30
Special Session Planning Commission
Chambers
Thurs
Aug 10
4:15
16:30
Civil Service Commission Meeting
Chambers
Thurs
Aug 10
Planning Commission
ICANCELED
Chambers
Mon
Aug 14
6:00
City Council Workshop Meeting . General Sewer Plan Briefing
Chambers
Wed
Aug 16
3:00
Council Finance and Budget Committee
Chambers
Thurs
Aug 17
3:00
Public Art Committee
Chambers
Mon
Aug 21 6:00
City Council Business Meeting . Stock Accessory Dwelling Unit Structural Plans Funding
Chambers
Tues
Aug 22
4:30
Parks, Recreation, Trees and Trails Advisory Bd.
Chambers
Wed
Aug 23
2:30
Jefferson County Housing Fund Board
BOCC
Wed
Aug 23
6:30
Special Session Planning Commission
Chambers
Thurs
Aug 24
6:30
Planning Commission CANCELED
Chambers
Intergovernmental Collaborative Group Update of Engineering Design Standards
Jeffco.Housing Fund Bd Records Management Policies
Adoption of Shoreline Master Program Update Mountain View Leases (December)
Suggestion Board and Workplan Review (Jan, Apr., July, Oct.) Budget Hearings and Adoption (Nov -Dec)
Council Committee Reports (April, July, October) Contract Renewals
Financial Sustainability Task Force
Annual Update to the City's Comprehensive Land Use Plan